New iPods on Monday?

[2A Batterie]

Just keeping the mill churning... check out the link
http://www.thinksecret.com/news/newipods.html

[quagmire]

My 7 month waiting for the 4g ipod has finally paid off if this happens. I will not be tweaked if there is no colrs and is not thinner. With the possibilty of prices dropping we could see the 15 GB sticking around.

[Freg3000]

Prices drops seem the most surprising, when the previous rumor was referring to prices staying at the current MSRP. But that rumor may turn out to be about the minis, and Apple would be crazy to lower the price on those with so much demand.

[stoid]

I don't know about this. White iPods with colorful scroll-wheels? And cheaper?

I guess it'll further take demand of of the iPod minis. I don't think that they will lower the low-end price though, as they don't make much on them already. Maybe $299, $369, $449 or something at the same sizes out now and a 60GB version at $499. I think that they will stay with the white enclosure to keep them distinct but I would like to see them have the iPod mini type of scroll wheel.

There won't be new iPod mini's yet. Period. They can't even get enough of the current model until July 24th, so nothing new there.

[MacRy]

I'm not so sure about the whole different colour scroll wheel idea. I like the current look - pure and classy.

[Koodauw]

And now I have to buy a new iPod? Man This is getting expensive. Here is to hoping they come do in fact come out soon! Although if there is no knew features, I may have to pass :eek:

Can we get AirTunes into an iPod?

[MacRumors]

ThinkSecret reports (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/newipods.html) that Apple is planning on released a "thinner, sleeker" white iPod on Monday, July 19th.

The new iPods are said to be roughly the same dimensions as the current standard (non-Mini) iPods, but slightly thinner and with a new scroll wheel design.

ThinkSecret cryptically reports that the announcement "will be delivered through an out-of-the-ordinary publicity medium".

[Grimace]

I think Thinksecret is usually on the mark. I just sold my 40GB for $450!

:D

[musicpyrite]

Bring it on!!!

[stoid]

Out-of the-ordinary publicity medium means that it will be announced via the iTMS! :D

[Gabriel]

*checks bank account ballance*

[Laslo Panaflex]

This is cool, I bought a 3g 15gig the second they announced them. I have been thinking about ugrading. If I can now get a new 30gig for a decent price, I would upgrade.

[Sabbath]

Sounds like not too big a change which is good by me as I won't make myself buy one, although I probably will when I see one :rolleyes: Interesting that these rumors seem to be so different from the last one.

[QCassidy352]

Colorful scroll wheels on a white ipod sounds pretty bad... but I'll withhold judgment until I see it, given what apple has managed in the past.

I like the idea of going to a mini-like scroll wheel; I have a mini, and that button design is their best yet.

Prices won't drop. ipods are still in extremely high demand, almost more than apple can meet. Why drop prices? Higher capacity at the same prices would be nice, but at some point, who cares? I have 4 gigs of music... 20 gigs, 40 gigs, 60 gigs, 100 gigs... it's all the same to me.

[KingJobs]

Cool

Now what is that medium :confused:

[invaLPsion]

If they're cheaper this could be a terrific release. The only things have been holding me off from getting an ipod are the price and the fact that I don't need 15 gigs of space for $299. I'd get a mini but I don't want to wait for 6 months. :D

[aptenergy]

I just bought an iPod last week!!! grrr.....

[joejg]

Well...I'm an apple newbie but here is some (maybe) interesting information. Last week I ordered a new powerbook and got a 15gig ipod with the student discount. The order status page had the powerbook and the protection care plan with shipping dates of " On or before 07/22/2004" which is a week after I ordered them. The ipod has not shipped and has a shipping date of "On or before 07/26/2004" which would be a week after this monday?

As I said before i'm an apple newbie (this is my first mac) so this might all be junk (corse...so could be the rumor), just thought I'd give you all that interesting information.

[AmigoMac]

New ... on Tue... ? :rolleyes:, sure no... but on August 10th ... I'll place my order...

[gropo]

Yeah I agree... Nuts-to-Testicles they announce them explicitly through iTMS. Awesome marketing move.

[crees!]

Out-of the-ordinary publicity medium means that it will be announced via the iTMS! :D Good thinking. I had in mind maybe an interview on some news channel and Steve would bust out with them. Or maybe on Oprah! ;) But yea, iTMS sounds appropriate enough. Anyways, they are to be announced on Monday but TS said nothing about when they ship. JOEJG said his iPod order is to ship on or before 7/26 so maybe they'll ship later in the week or the week following the announcement. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[povvy]

How would they announce a new product via iTMS?

I am thinking the unusual means for introducing the new iPods will be through TV ads. That would sure get the word out.

Patrick.

[Mac Boy-Canada]

This is sounding good! I hope that the price reductions are significant, however, it doesn't seem likely. If the price reduction rumor is true, then we can say goodbye to colour screen and WiFi, like we were hoping for!

[abhishekit]

It would be really surprising if they are cheaper. May be they would upgrade the hard disk space in the same price. So now 300$ for 20 GB. No more 15 GB ones. :)

[thediesel]

I'm getting one, unless they announce some sort of videopod that will come out in the next few months. I am just hoping the battery will be significantly improved. That should have been their top priority, not just making it smaller or more colorful.

[Grimace]

they announce them explicitly through iTMS. Awesome marketing move.

Exclusively thru iTMS I can see, but how would Apple announce a product - explicitly?? :D

[SuperChuck]

I just hope they offer one in the classic white/silver motif. I'm all for giving colors to those who want them, but I'd probably be more inclined to buy a used classic than a new, colorized version.

I do love the new scroll wheel on the minis, though.

[~Shard~]

Interesting rumor, I was quite content with the previous rumors of August updates - that to me seemed a little more realistic. But I guess we'll see Monday! I'm not sure exactly how a different colored scroll whell would look though - I thought Apple might just color the entire iPods a la the iPod minis, but I'm curious to see how asthetically pleasing this new iPod will be if the rumors are indeed bang on.

[.a]

most interesting thing would be airtunes enabled ipods - would be really rockin' if you sit on the toilet with the ipod in your hands changing the sound in the living room ... well i would buy one ... i want to do this toilet thing :)
.a

[wdlove]

Updates are always cool. Looks like Steve is trying to get off his Tuesday announcement day.

I just wonder what this "out-of-the-ordinary publicity medium" will end up being?

[iMeowbot]

Exclusively thru iTMS I can see, but how would Apple announce a product - explicitly?? :D
I suppose they could always do something like this (http://gallery.ipodlounge.com/ipod/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=145)...

[Dahl]

Prices drops seem the most surprising, when the previous rumor was referring to prices staying at the current MSRP. But that rumor may turn out to be about the minis, and Apple would be crazy to lower the price on those with so much demand.
I wouldn't be surpriseed if the only changes would be the size and not the price. As stated in the thread, they can't make them fast enough and if Apple were to launch new iPods with a new lower prices, wouldn't they hype it?

[Pipian]

The Spike Jonze Commercial which premieres on iTMS Prehaps?

[The Sheck]

Cool

Now what is that medium :confused:

Skywriting. In every city on Earth. Believe it. ;)

[killmoms]

I'd really like the battery life on the iPod to be a little better than it is now, just so all my iPod-bashing friends will shut up about battery life. If it goes DOWN with the new, sleeker, iPod, I'll be very disappointed. Unless they've found some magic new battery, or the other stuff takes up less room so they can improve battery life AND reduce size.

Oh well, I've already got my own 20GB 3rd gen, so I'm not worried.

--Cless

[Soire]

I held out for 3 months waiting to buy a 4th gen!

Two weeks ago I break down and buy a personalized 40gig iPod!

%*&^(**^%%$#(*&^^%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anybody wanna buy a 40gig iPod with my name on it?? If not I may have to buy a 15gig just because I'm a nut job...

[jouster]

Where is everyone getting the new color from for the scroll wheel?

It says a new style, is all. It says nothing about color.

[macnews]

I can't believe only two people have commented about the battery. That would be one of my main concern is a drop (not too likely as would be a very bad move) or status quo battery capacity. Thinner is nice but the biggest grip about the iPod is batter life and now some more viable competitors are coming out with much longer battery capacities. Of course, I assume Apple recognizes this and is coming to market with a thinner, longer battery life iPod.

Of course, I also hope the iPod I just ordered last week turns out to be once of these new iPods.

[Matrix9180]

Where is everyone getting the new color from for the scroll wheel?

It says a new style, is all. It says nothing about color.

THANK YOU!
Was just about to say that same thing.

[Trowaman]

I don't buy it. Toshiba announced the 60 GB hard drvies and Apple had pre-rdered a bunch. Those things weren't shipping until early August I believe. Unless Apple got a large number of thsoe things 1 month early this won't be happening. I wouldn't expect new iPods until sometime in August. I especially wouldn't expect them to ship until cram and jam finishes.

Just my opinion.

[quagmire]

Where is everyone getting the new color from for the scroll wheel?

It says a new style, is all. It says nothing about color.

TS must of edited it. If you look at the front page of ts it will say color and design. Look like ts sources had a mix up.

[Doctor Q]

Delivered through an out-of-the-ordinary publicity medium?

My guess is that it's a celebrity tie in. John Mayer with an iPod on stage? :) Al Gore with an iPod in a boardroom? :cool: Oh, wait, I know: Gwyneth Paltrow's baby "Apple" with an iPod in the nursery! :D

[Redline13]

If the new ipod has an AM/FM radio I will be very intrested in upgrading. I like to listen to the radio for news, sports and weather info. It's a litle rediculous that it doesn't have one already.

[gropo]

but how would Apple announce a product - explicitly??
"iPod. 15,000 songs in your mother$^%^# pocket. Smaller than a $*&^*$ pack of baseball cards." no, no that's "illicitly" damn, you're right, I meant "exclusively" :mad:

[2A Batterie]

Wow... I was the first to post this topic and the front page has my first post! I feel kind of special, especially since I usually say stupid things on macrumors.com. Am I just happy about this for no good reason?

[TWinbrook46636]

If the new ipod has an AM/FM radio I will be very intrested in upgrading. I like to listen to the radio for news, sports and weather info. It's a litle rediculous that it doesn't have one already.

It could be the first portable to be compatible with HD Radio digital broadcasts. Got to get in early and trump the competition.

[macridah]

Wow, sooner than I expected, but I'm not complaining. Thinner would be way cool. It might be better when I go jogging.

If the 4G's look like the mini, but bigger, I would love that. That's what I'm talking about.

[mattl]

well ... my hopes are up. i ordered a 40GB on thursday, and it says shipping on or before 7/23. if it was just the in-stock 3G iPod i wouldn't think there would be much of a wait.

- matt

[jouster]

TS must of edited it. If you look at the front page of ts it will say color and design. Look like ts sources had a mix up.

I do apologize; it does say exactly that on TS's front page. How odd that the color part vanished by the time it made it to macrumors......

Well, now I have to agree: keep it white already! People like it that way. If it ain't broke......

[xtbfx]

I just want bigger capacity and longer battery life (and a lower price wouldn't hurt either!).

If this does come to pass, I will be selling my 30GB iPod for sure and upgrading to the 60GB.

My 30GB is full to the max and I still have songs on my computer that are wanting to get on my iPod!!

[Trekkie]

Keep it white please.

While the mini looks good (just got my wife a pink one for her birthday) the svelte-ness of the white iPod really appeals to me. Unfortunately for me I'm a big fan of the 1G and 2G layout (I have a 2G 20GB) but my headphone jack has cracked from years of use (battery is STILL GOOD thank you very much) so things are a lot quieter and i have to crank the iPod to almost max volume to hear things.

So new iPod model or not I think on the 2nd anniversary of me getting my 2G iPod I will be buying a new one and seeing what I can get for this model on eBay. I really liked the button placement around the wheel instead of above it. The iPod Mini's layout would be nice on a 4G but not the colors.

And daaaang that mini is small. Pretty amazing.

[azdude]

Hmmm... Out of the ordinary publicity medium...

I'd expect Steve Jobs to personally do an info-mercial on MTV before he releases the iPods on the iTMS... it's about *publicity,* bang, and fanfare before it is about "neatness". iTMS is not a launch platform... there's a relatively tiny amount of people on iTMS at any one time compared to the internet in general (or TV).

[corywoolf]

i think many of us have forgot about the Hpod and how it has been a big deal for hp, apple can not launch a new iPod and expect hp to sell the old one. my guess, is that hp will launch its version on the same day as apple does. I can already see the commercial now," Hp and Apple unite, to produce this sharp looking hPod", maybe they will have a whole new interface. I could see apple coming up with a create a pod. Where u send them a picture and they will either create a film like sticker that goes around the ipod or something of that sort. Apple is all for uniqueness and that means they want to set themselves apart from other companies. So they could have a whole new scheme. Create a pod. thats all for now....


-from Ann Arbor

[Steven1621]

Can we get AirTunes into an iPod?

eventually, but probably no in this update. just IMO

[AdamZ]

As an early buyer of the 1st gen 5gb iPod, I think I am ready to put the old girl to rest. I think the first and second generation iPods are the best, I never did like the buttons placed up top. I must say that my iPod has been through hell with my general frequent drops on the concrete and wear and tear. It still performs like a champ though, scratches and all. I was contemplating selling it, but I wonder if the 1st gen iPod might be a cool nostalgic item in the years ahead. I think it would be a nice time to retire it while it is still in a good working condition. I too like the mini very much. I have been used to using 5gb of storage of music and transfering of files for three years now, but I rreally want the classy white.

[vanillamike]

As an early buyer of the 1st gen 5gb iPod, I think I am ready to put the old girl to rest. I think the first and second generation iPods are the best, I never did like the buttons placed up top.

Have you ever tried the buttons? I felt exactly the same way when the buttons came out, I wondered why so far away from the scroll wheel? But now that I have used mine for close to a year I wouldn't have it any other way. I know the buttons will most likely disappear on the next revision but I still think they look really cool when they light up, and are quite ergonomic.
I need to try one of those minis though with the tilt and push scroll wheel. I like the idea but I worry a little about having to push on the wheel to make the button go. I like the touch sensiteve buttons. So enough about buttons bring on the 4Gs ;)

Mike

[narco]

As an early buyer of the 1st gen 5gb iPod, I think I am ready to put the old girl to rest. I think the first and second generation iPods are the best, I never did like the buttons placed up top. I must say that my iPod has been through hell with my general frequent drops on the concrete and wear and tear. It still performs like a champ though, scratches and all. I was contemplating selling it, but I wonder if the 1st gen iPod might be a cool nostalgic item in the years ahead. I think it would be a nice time to retire it while it is still in a good working condition. I too like the mini very much. I have been used to using 5gb of storage of music and transfering of files for three years now, but I rreally want the classy white.

That's what I thought about the original iMac. Turns out that wasn't the case. Could be different with the iPod though.

Personally, if the rumor is true or not, I am still selling my 40 gig on eBay. I know the new iPods will come out soon enough, so why not get the best price now.

.narco

[jamka]

OMG I'm so excited!!!!!!

[Blue Moon]

How would they announce a new product via iTMS?.

Duh. The same way they announced the 100,000,000 song promo -- through a graphics box and a webpage.

[Duff-Man]

Duff-Man says....I have had my 1st gen 5GB since day one and I have toyed with the idea of a newer one as well...I'll wait and see how this unfolds then decide. I'd like more space, but I don't really need 60GB either so maybe whatever the new mid-range is would be perfect for me. I would want to see a few reports on them first - if it is true they are thinner, what has shrunk? The battery? Now, if they've shrunk the battery and improved its life then for sure I will buy.....oh yeah!

[The Exile]

OMG I'm so excited!!!!!!

You should be. They are going to be awsome. And yes these iPods will be wireless.

[sw1tcher]

I really doubt there'd be price drops on the new iPods. Let's take a look at the current prices:

iPod mini = $249
15GB iPod = $299
20GB iPod = $399
40GB iPod = $499

What would they drop the prices to? Theres no room for price drops unless they also dropped the price on the iPod mini's, but that wouldn't be a smart move since the mini's are literally flying off the shelves. But if they did drop the price on everything, maybe it'll look something like this:

iPod mini = $229
low-end iPod = $279
mid-end iPod = $379
high-end iPod = $479

[nagromme]

Unusual publicity? Obviously they will be dropping with little parachutes. Be ready!

So the new colors/higher GB rumors for ~August will actually be new Minis. Makes sense. Maybe we'll even get two capacities of Mini--more drives available to sell that way!

And the 4G iPod won't have to wait? Cool. I was hoping for Al, because my PowerBook is so durable, but on pure looks I always prefer Apple's white stuff. As long as it has a clickwheel I'll be happy.

I hope TS is right on this.

And I hope they add enough features (even on the software side) to tempt me away from the Mini--which I assume will also have to drop in price if the new iPods really are cheaper. (I'm skeptical.) I've tried the Mini and only features--not raw capacity would tempt me to pay more for something larger. iTunes handles low-capacity players very elegantly with big libraries.

I won't hold out hope for major new hardware features--especially not if these will be cheaper. But... one reason Apple MIGHT opt for all-white instead of white-and-Al... to allow a WiFi signal :) Probably just a dream.

Battery life? I've never cared, personally. I never play more than 2-3 hours at a stretch, and there are lots of iPod power sources.

(And why the talk of colored wheels? Where did that come from? I don't see that at TS--and I'd expect a colored case before a colored wheel. I'd like to see a white plastic option AND colored Al options on all models of iPod, actually.)

[themacrobaye]

This makes sense... Think Secret is usually right in their predictions, especially when they are predicting something to happen in a few days.

Also, anyone remember one of Apple's most recent 'Deals'? But a Powerbook and and iPod and get $200 off...maybe Apple is trying to get rid of some iPods for the upcoming release :)

[snahabed]

I agree with the people who are against the 3G buttons! I HATE them. Yes, I have tried them -- I think I got carpal tunnel in my thumb from just 5 minutes with it! :) They are very un-Apple.

The clickwheel -- now THAT is Apple.

I would not even consider getting an iPod maxi until they removed the 3G button style.

[sw1tcher]

Also, anyone remember one of Apple's most recent 'Deals'? But a Powerbook and and iPod and get $200 off...maybe Apple is trying to get rid of some iPods for the upcoming release :)


Maybe. Maybe not. I remember they offered this same deal last year (or was it the year before last?) too. So it's really just Apple trying to get students to buy their computers before they head back to school. If this offer was made to the general public, then yeah I might agree with you that Apple's trying to get rid of some iPods before the new models are released.

[themacrobaye]

I know it's a photoshop, but check this out:

http://www.spymac.com/upload/gallery/f_0/user_9764/medium/upload_199899.jpg

I don't think I'd be too upset, however I really like the smooth feel of the 3G... the mini has smooth sides, but the top and bottom have a hard edge that doesn't feel too good in a pocket or on you arm.

[themacman]

I would hope for aluminum i have a 3G 10 gig Ipod and it scartches way too easily. I like the styling but i would like color. AN orange ipod. that would be nutz

[jph]

Don't know if somebody else mentioned it before, but over at AppleNova they had a story running that it would be on mondays NEWSWEEK cover. They pulled it on the sources request but will republish tomorrow (which sounds a bit odd...).

If it adds AirTunes capability I might get one....

jph

[azdude]

I would hope for aluminum i have a 3G 10 gig Ipod and it scartches way too easily. I like the styling but i would like color. AN orange ipod. that would be nutz

What's wrong with both??? We have blue, green, pink, gold, and silver anodized aluminum.... why not white anodized aluminum?!

**/me crosses fingers**

[applekid]

New iPods? Well, I'm keeping my 3G iPod, but I want to know what this new medium is.

I also think Apple is just building up hype for this one. How many times did we get moving targets for the last few releases of hardware? Great...

But, if Apple does release the iPod soon, it must mean the iMacs will just blow us away. I thought Steve was going to save up an iPod release for the iMacs, but maybe not anymore.

[The Exile]

Don't know if somebody else mentioned it before, but over at AppleNova they had a story running that it would be on mondays NEWSWEEK cover. They pulled it on the sources request but will republish tomorrow (which sounds a bit odd...).

If it adds AirTunes capability I might get one....

jph

Wow do people just skip over the post from newbie or what? This will be the third time i said it. Yes most defiantly the forth generation iPod will be wireless. Mark my word.

[rikers_mailbox]

From Thinksecret:
ThinkSecret cryptically reports that the announcement "will be delivered through an out-of-the-ordinary publicity medium".

Apple could offer something like a 10% discount if purchased through the iTMS store. iTMS sells music, why not iPods? If they also advertised other Apple products (new iMac?!), imagine how much more people would be exposed to Apple. (definitely more than aaple.com website traffic). Also, more people would download iTunes just for the discount.

[Pipian]

it's on Newsweek..

98% sure..

[Doctor Q]

Wow do people just skip over the post from newbie or what? This will be the third time i said it. Yes most defiantly the forth generation iPod will be wireless. Mark my word.I've seen your three posts in two threads. You don't need to repeat it. If you want more people to take your word for it, you could tell us more about how you got the information. However, even then people will choose what to believe and continue to speculate. That's one of the reasons we have forums.

I think wireless connections would be great. How long would it take to fill an iPod that way?

[applekid]

Don't know if somebody else mentioned it before, but over at AppleNova they had a story running that it would be on mondays NEWSWEEK cover. They pulled it on the sources request but will republish tomorrow (which sounds a bit odd...).

If it adds AirTunes capability I might get one....

jph

Just read the thread about it. Wish I could catch the story. But this would be an out of the ordinary way of showcasing the iPod. Can't wait till tomorrow... If they keep their promise that is.

Now if my family just subscribed to Newsweek. (We get Time around here.)

[jph]

I've seen your three posts in two threads. You don't need to repeat it. If you want more people to take your word for it, you could tell us more about how you got the information. However, even then people will choose what to believe and continue to speculate. That's one of the reasons we have forums.

I think wireless connections would be great. How long would it take to fill an iPod that way?


For me it would be sufficient if I could stream from the iPod to my stereo. I guess current wireless technology is far slower than firewire (just a guess though) meaning wired "filling" is still the way to go...

jph

[jph]

Just read the thread about it. Wish I could catch the story. But this would be an out of the ordinary way of showcasing the iPod. Can't wait till tomorrow... If they keep their promise that is.

Now if my family just subscribed to Newsweek. (We get Time around here.)

They had it on the main page as a headline story w/ a (mock - I guess) photo.
Maybe they're just combining all the info together w/ Thinksecret (now that they're sharing the forums w/ them, too)...

jph

[Calvinatir]

mmm..anyone remember fire'wireless'?

[zakee00]

yeah, why would they put wireless firewire on an ipod, if NO macs had it? its cool, but id have to get a pc card for my powerbook :D. plus, they JUST came out with fw800. they wont update it so soon.
EDIT, COOL IDEA: ok, how about a fw800 device, that adds fire'wireless :D (is that how its spelled?)

[gensor]

feature the iPOD on front cover Monday and this will be the introduction

[The Exile]

I've seen your three posts in two threads. You don't need to repeat it. If you want more people to take your word for it, you could tell us more about how you got the information. However, even then people will choose what to believe and continue to speculate. That's one of the reasons we have forums.

I think wireless connections would be great. How long would it take to fill an iPod that way?

Ok thanks for the tip. Well lets just say that apple needs to have a little manual for a product before it is released, and lets just say that I have a close connection to someone somewhere. This is all the information I have now but I am hard at work looking for more.

[romerom]

is that not happening now?

[applekid]

feature the iPOD on front cover Monday and this will be the introduction

If this holds true, and Newsweek has start the presses already, this will only force Apple to show their hand Monday. So no moving release dates! (If everything is true)

[snahabed]

I think WiFi has MANY great potential uses in an iPod.

1. syncing -- only sort of useful.. would be cool for minor updates but not a big, first-time big sync. Then again, it would need a separate power charger.

2. AirTunes remote.

Those are the obvious ones... but people, think BIG.

Take your iPod to any WiFi hotspot, and maybe get some plain-text email in a basic email reader application (which you set up on your Mac, and have the settings sync over).

In the future, how about iTMS2Go. You want to buy a track on the spot, when you're not near your computer (say, you're at a party)... Maybe some version of iTMS with the iPod navigation system. It would sync right back up to iTunes. Let's see some other player/music store do that!

Rendezvous iPod music sharing. Hey, some other 4G iPod user is on my train, now I can stream his non-protected music... and if I like it, click a button and go to iTMS2Go and purchase it myself!


I know some of this might seem silly, maybe it is. Just brainstorming -- imagine what talented professionals could come up with! :)

Of course, we won't see WiFi in an iPod until battery technology is better.

[applekid]

Ok thanks for the tip. Well lets just say that apple needs to have a little manual for a product before it is released, and lets just say that I have a close connection to someone somewhere. This is all the information I have now but I am hard at work looking for more.

Keep us updated.

And hit me up with a PM (if you don't mind) if you've got some more or make a post in this thread. I'll be sure to check MacRumors every hour today into midnight. :cool:

[gensor]

Article pulled. However I read it and it said that Newsweek was at Apple headquarters to do an exclusiv on the iPOD. This article on the iPOD in Newsweek will serve to introduce the new iPOD. And mag to hit airports Sunday evening and street Monday

[Pipian]

Does anyone have the text or picture from the page that was pulled?

[rtdunham]

Wow... I was the first to post this topic and the front page has my first post! I feel kind of special, especially since I usually say stupid things on macrumors.com. Am I just happy about this for no good reason?

be happy for your consistentcy. :)

[jph]

Article pulled. However I read it and it said that Newsweek was at Apple headquarters to do an exclusiv on the iPOD. This article on the iPOD in Newsweek will serve to introduce the new iPOD. And mag to hit airports Sunday evening and street Monday

They also said something about a photo-shooting for the iPod - IF I remember correctly (looking at that almost empty bottle of wine I not so sure anymore :p )

jph

[Mr.Bob]

The price reduction on 4g iPods will open the $499 price point for the new 60 Mg. Video iPod in late August.

New iPod pricing:

40 Mg. iPod $449
20 Mg. iPod $379
15 Mg. iPod $279

We will also see in August a new 10 Mg. Mini at $249 (new hard drive supplier) and the 4 Mg. Mini will drop to $199

[vpalvarez]

I would hope for aluminum i have a 3G 10 gig Ipod and it scartches way too easily. I like the styling but i would like color. AN orange ipod. that would be nutz

i just got it...maybe the color clickwheel will be against a alluminum body

[rareflares]

The price reduction on 4g iPods will open the $499 price point for the new 60 Mg. Video iPod in late August.

New iPod pricing:

40 Mg. iPod $449
20 Mg. iPod $379
15 Mg. iPod $279

We will also see in August a new 10 Mg. Mini at $249 (new hard drive supplier) and the 4 Mg. Mini will drop to $199




you mean GB not Megs. :D

[superstring]

Before I read the Newsweek thing, my inital thought was that maybe Steve Jobs would annouce it and ring the opening bell at the stock exchange...

[jph]

The price reduction on 4g iPods will open the $499 price point for the new 60 Mg. Video iPod in late August.

New iPod pricing:

40 Mg. iPod $449
20 Mg. iPod $379
15 Mg. iPod $279

We will also see in August a new 10 Mg. Mini at $249 (new hard drive supplier) and the 4 Mg. Mini will drop to $199

Do you have any info on this or is it just a guess? I really doubt any video capable iPod in the near future (they're selling faster than Apple can make them and the battery issue needs to be resolved first - well, IF they introduce much better batteries, then it could get interesting...)

jph

[jph]

Quote from AppleNova:

"Think Secret and Apple Nova will be publishing a collaborative story."

jph

[jamka]

OMG, now I'm even more excited now. I'll have to pick up that newsweek, because I too get Time. OH boy! :D

[BeanTownBrawler]

Wait so when are these new ipods gonna come out? I just got an iriver hp-120 but I think ill return it and get the new ipod. Do you think it will support wma's and ogg's?

[dongmin]

The price reduction on 4g iPods will open the $499 price point for the new 60 Mg. Video iPod in late August.

New iPod pricing:

40 Mg. iPod $449
20 Mg. iPod $379
15 Mg. iPod $279

We will also see in August a new 10 Mg. Mini at $249 (new hard drive supplier) and the 4 Mg. Mini will drop to $199Are you speculating or do you have a real source for this? My guess is that Apple will keep the same price point but bump up the HD size:

20 gig: $299
40 gig: $399
60 gig: $499

[applekid]

Wait so when are these new ipods gonna come out? I just got an iriver hp-120 but I think ill return it and get the new ipod. Do you think it will support wma's and ogg's?

WMA: Fat chance. They're converting WMAs to AAC on the Windows version of iTunes.

Oggs: It might be possible, compared to WMA anyway. I myself don't use it since I'm not an audiophile, but I think Apple will want to push AAC as long as it is the format for the Music Store.

[Localcelebrity]

look this just needs to happen, my first generation 5gb is just about dead and i'm desperately in need of a new one, and i've been waiting patiently for too long for them to put out a new model

[dongmin]

OMG, now I'm even more excited now. I'll have to pick up that newsweek, because I too get Time. OH boy! :DThey have about 100+ people that work in their art, photo, & production departments. Come on, there must be a leak somewhere. I think we'll know by tomorrow AM.

If it's on the cover of Newsweek, it must have some sweet new features. Wireless anyone?

[BeanTownBrawler]

Whatever as long as the battery life is improved it will be perfect for me.

[rtdunham]

... over at AppleNova they had a story running that it would be on mondays NEWSWEEK cover. jph

which newsweekly--Newsweek or TIME?--was it that broke the embargo on the announcement of the iMac? I remember being in san francisco for MacWorld Expo and before Steve's keynote that announced the product, the story was on the cover of one of those two mags. We were standing in line, waiting to go in for the keynote, discussing it. Reporting at the time said steve j was pretty upset. I can't imagine them using the same mag for an intentional release this time. Somebody check out which one spilled the beans on the iMac, and my money's on the OTHER if something's to be released this time.

terry

[mangophreek]

I just ordered the 17" Powerbook and a 20gb iPod with the Cram and Jam promotion. I had the order saved in my account for a few days waiting for more info on iPod updates but Apple called my Thursday and offered me $300 off to order it then. With Cram and Jam you need to order the iPod and PB at the same time...

Neither have shipped though (my iSight and extra battery have). Do you think, if these new iPods are released Monday that I could call them up and have them switch the iPod on the order or would I have to cancel whats left on the order and the re-order. Would it be worth the trouble?

Edit: Would Apple maybe just ship a new model over the old one as it seems they are out of stock of all the old models? Estimated ship date is the 27th right now on my order.

[quagmire]

The price reduction on 4g iPods will open the $499 price point for the new 60 Mg. Video iPod in late August.

New iPod pricing:

40 Mg. iPod $449
20 Mg. iPod $379
15 Mg. iPod $279

We will also see in August a new 10 Mg. Mini at $249 (new hard drive supplier) and the 4 Mg. Mini will drop to $199

You are a newbie so I won't hold it accountable for you. Your prices sound right on but, you weren't around when the 60 GB news was around.

60 GB ipod $449

40 GB ipod $379

20 GB ipod $279

[narco]

What if this whole story was made up to get free publicity. I've never even heard of AppleNova until now; so now I know that it exists and that ThinkSecret has message boards. Tricky, but possible.

.narco

[rareflares]

http://log.tenseforms.com/robotspacer/uploads/images/new_ipod.jpg





saw that on another site. i personally think it'll be a little taller and wider but that looks pretty slick.

and i personally prefer the mini's click wheel than the old ipod scroll wheel.

[quagmire]

What if this whole story was made up to get free publicity. I've never even heard of AppleNova until now; so now I know that it exists and that ThinkSecret has message boards. Tricky, but possible.

.narco
I am not trying to respark the battle with applenova and this site I am going to tell you. I am a member there. The site was made when an admin at appleinsider.com did something bad. So these people split and made appleinsider.org. Then we changed the name to applenova.

[Mylstar]

I had a 40 gig in my shopping cart yesterday and today it was gone. I checked on all the iPods at Bestbuy.com and all were out of stock. Hmmmmmm.

I"m just waiting on a Best Buy "18 months same as cash" promo to get my iPod and a new Nikon D70. :D

[Duff-Man]

which newsweekly--Newsweek or TIME?--was it that broke the embargo on the announcement of the iMac? terryDuff-Man says....it was Time Canada the blew that one - so no surprise that Newsweek gets the scoop this time around (pardon the pun)....oh yeah!

[narco]

I am not trying to respark the battle with applenova and this site I am going to tell you. I am a member there. The site was made when an admin at appleinsider.com did something bad. So these people split and made appleinsider.org. Then we changed the name to applenova.

I apologize, I do not know the history of any mac-site battles. I was just thinking out loud.

.narco

[fredwick]

I know it's a photoshop, but check this out:

http://www.spymac.com/upload/gallery/f_0/user_9764/medium/upload_199899.jpg

I don't think I'd be too upset, however I really like the smooth feel of the 3G... the mini has smooth sides, but the top and bottom have a hard edge that doesn't feel too good in a pocket or on you arm.
that looks pretty nice

[dongmin]

http://log.tenseforms.com/robotspacer/uploads/images/new_ipod.jpg





saw that on another site. i personally think it'll be a little taller and wider but that looks pretty slick.

and i personally prefer the mini's click wheel than the old ipod scroll wheel.What looks slick? It's just the mini slightly scaled up. Did you read the Thinksecret story? It says the new ones will keep the same dimensions mostly but be slightly thinner. And it'll keep the white body. Perhaps a silver click wheel.

[128KMac]

Delivered through an out-of-the-ordinary publicity medium?

My guess is that it's a celebrity tie in. John Mayer with an iPod on stage? :) Al Gore with an iPod in a boardroom? :cool: Oh, wait, I know: Gwyneth Paltrow's baby "Apple" with an iPod in the nursery! :D


How about this?

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/5156

A tour de force from le tour de france?

[Gherkin]

If it is really on the cover of Newsweek, there has to be more than "It's thinner and you can put more songs on it!!!"

And it's pretty interesting that TIME isn't getting this exclusive. I guess Apple is still sour over the iMac being revealed early.

[Photorun]

Video iPod in late August.

Considering the head of Apple's hardware division said there'd be no video iPod in the immediate future at WWDC I highly doubt it, if you believe there will be a video iPod I have a G5 Powerbook I'd like to sell you? :rolleyes:

[pkradd]

The debut of the new iPod on the cover of Newsweek doesn't necessarily mean anything out of the ordinary with the new iPod other then evolutionary changes. The iPod is a major success story for Apple and the industry. For that alone it deserves a feature story and/or cover. The story probably will go over all aspects of Apple's successes with iTMS as well. Perhaps they will indicate that the independent labels will be joining iTMS Europe. Don't think for a moment that SJ will not be a big part of the story in the mag.
An interesting sidelight of being in Newsweek is that the website is part of MSNBC, which is part of M$.

[jimsowden]

:) if you don't understand, don't ask.

[StudioGuy]

If it is really on the cover of Newsweek.

Not sure of Newsweek's release timing, but their website shows a Kerry/Edwards picture on the current issue, and the story says "July 19 issue" which is this upcoming Monday, to be released. :rolleyes: or please clarify for us.

[AmigoMac]

Where have you been? I'm sure you're the guy who talked about the last eMacs, weren't you? ... give us news, tell us your point ;) ...

[quagmire]

Not sure of Newsweek's release timing, but their website shows a Kerry/Edwards picture on the current issue, and the story says "July 19 issue" which is this upcoming Monday, to be released. :rolleyes: or please clarify for us.

Newsweek always puts the next week date on their magazines. So the ipod magazine will be dated the July 26, 2004 if it happens.

[poopyhead]

see new ipod in attachment in first post of this thread
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80125
towards the end of the movie

buttons now appear to be located around scroll wheel

[Blue Moon]

I am not trying to respark the battle with applenova and this site I am going to tell you. I am a member there. The site was made when an admin at appleinsider.com did something bad. So these people split and made appleinsider.org. Then we changed the name to applenova.

Something bad? Could you elaborate?

[quagmire]

Something bad? Could you elaborate?

Not commenting anymore then I said.

[Gherkin]

see new ipod in attachment in first post of this thread
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80125
towards the end of the movie

buttons now appear to be located around scroll wheel

That picture looks like the 1G iPod.

[jph]

Something bad? Could you elaborate?

just go to their website (applenova.com) and read the 2 or 3 articles that'll explain all you need to know.

jph

[ultrafiel]

I could plug it into my car and not have to use a FM transmitter. Problem is, I only have a CD player, and I have no line-in in the back of my stereo. Pain in the neck I say, as I don't want to buy a new stereo just for an iPod - the point of getting the iPod is to not use the stereo. I can't really think of a solution to this. I have a 2003 Altima S. Also, the iPods storage can't keep up with my library, although it's getting close. I now have 65 GB of mp3s, and so a 60 barely doesn't fit. I guess that doesn't really matter though as I'd never carry my whole library around... I just want to use one in my car without a FM transmitter. Anyone have a spare CD player with line-in that want to give me?

[rtdunham]

Not sure of Newsweek's release timing, but their website shows a Kerry/Edwards picture on the current issue, and the story says "July 19 issue" which is this upcoming Monday, to be released. :rolleyes: or please clarify for us.

magazines use absurdly distant dates to mark their publication. I've had the August issue of Car and Driver here for at least several days, since the middle of July.

The Newsweek issue you cite is "last week's" issue. I've had it here at the house all week. There will be a new issue Monday.

terry

[snofseth]

I think it will look light the ipod mini/ new displays I saw them at the apple store today and the sides are white plastic on the sides. and I really like the way the look they are much more impresive in real life, but i think that is apple's new style alluminum with plastic on top and bottom/ sides

[Jimmni]

That picture looks like the 1G iPod.

I'm guessing 2G. Are there really people out there who haven't seen the 1/2G design? I still think it's the best, but then I have one so I'm bound to be biased...

magazines use absurdly distant dates to mark their publication. I've had the August issue of Car and Driver here for at least several days, since the middle of July.


I remember buying an issue of FHM in November that had January on the cover... I guess it makes people feel there's always a new issue out.

[afields]

Nobody wants a line in for recording? If that happened I could do away with my minidisc for good.

[pkradd]

Weekly magazines such as Newsweek and Time have the following week's date on the cover. Tomorrow when they both come out the date will say:

July 24, 2004

They both arrive at most airports on Sunday evening with the issue available Monday at newsstands. Mail delivery is usually on Tuesday. This has been the case almost since they first started publishing. MSNBC is where the Newsweek website resides. There will probably be an embargo on the story until late Sunday. Apple could even post the new iPods Sunday evening but I doubt it. They waited until the Monday of SJ's keynote to publish the flat panel iMac even though many had already seen it via the Time magazine article published late Sunday on the net and available to some people if they were at an airport or train station Sunday evening. Also it's possible it won't be the prime cover story. Nowadays there is usually a major story with a secondary one shown along the top of the cover.

[mrdhammer]

Well, those who said it was on the cover of newsweek were right. I went to the site, looked at the image URL, messed around with it so it referred to next week's edition, and look what lovely image popped up:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/nw_300_magcover_040717.jpg

It's kinda small, but it looks like a new iPod to me.

[StudioGuy]

magazines use absurdly distant dates to mark their publication. I've had the August issue of Car and Driver here for at least several days, since the middle of July.

The Newsweek issue you cite is "last week's" issue. I've had it here at the house all week. There will be a new issue Monday.

terry
I see monthlies do that, but it seems silly that weeklies aren't synced to the actual week. Thought it was something like that - thanks!

Nobody wants a line in for recording? If that happened I could do away with my minidisc for good.
This would make me finally break down and buy one. If I could have a nice small audio backup device, either analog line-in or digital TOS, that would be cool.

I always thought a CD-quality handheld recorder with hard disk would be a nice idea. Maybe they'll make my idea a reality. Gee, where's my patent attorney... :rolleyes:

[mrdhammer]

Also, for those who were wondering, the date on a magazine in most cases refers to the date that newsstands are supposed to stop showing it. Thus, last week's issue of newsweek is taken off stands on july 19, and next week's will be taken off july 26

[StudioGuy]

Well, those who said it was on the cover of newsweek were right. I went to the site, looked at the image URL, messed around with it so it referred to next week's edition, and look what lovely image popped up:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/nw_300_magcover_040717.jpg

It's kinda small, but it looks like a new iPod to me.

Slick, MrDHammer! Definitely looks different from any other one, and looks more like the original, than the mini, just like the rumor... Now, let the "features" rumors continue :D

[mrdhammer]

Found a bigger copy of the same photograph...

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/040717_COVER.320w.jpg

[Floop]

Well, those who said it was on the cover of newsweek were right. I went to the site, looked at the image URL, messed around with it so it referred to next week's edition, and look what lovely image popped up:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/nw_300_magcover_040717.jpg

It's kinda small, but it looks like a new iPod to me.

Holy crap - you are right.

Look at the banner in that picture - it talks about a story called 'The Iran Connection - now look and find that story on the Newsweek website front page!

At first I thought this was an article from when the iPod was first released, but I think you are 100% correct now. Now all we need to know is WHAT IS NEW ABOUT IT (apart from the way it looks!)

Floop

[vpalvarez]

Well, those who said it was on the cover of newsweek were right. I went to the site, looked at the image URL, messed around with it so it referred to next week's edition, and look what lovely image popped up:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/nw_300_magcover_040717.jpg

It's kinda small, but it looks like a new iPod to me.



That is cool. Is that a colors clickwheel (purple). This is unbelivable.

[Dreamail]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/nw_300_magcover_040717.jpg
Man, you are a genius! Very well done! :D

Definitely looks like the real deal. 4 buttons removed, scrollweel moved up a bit, and perhaps iPod made a bit shorter even.

The scrollweel looks a tad darker. Backlit perhaps? Or frosted plastic?

[I guess someone will be very pleased with Newsweek - NOT.
And that someone is also running out of weekly magazines for news reports fast... ;)]

[vpalvarez]

Found a bigger copy of the same photograph...

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/040717_COVER.320w.jpg

if you look cloely you can see that the date is for the issue coming out on Monday. mrdhammer YOU ARE MY HERO.

[bertagert]

You da man!

[StudioGuy]

now, you have to go find the story :)

Such as:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/54xxxxx/site/newsweek/

where xxxxx is something past 54606 :D or at least that appears to be their URL structure for stories.

For example the Iran story is at:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5454606/site/newsweek/

This is one of the "more funner" (sic) rumors, early proof!

[kainjow]

OMG awesome!!!! mrdhammer you deserve an award :)

[Floop]

if you look cloely you can see that the date is for the issue coming out on Monday. mrdhammer YOU ARE MY HERO.

I concur! We bow at the altar of mrdhammer!

[Superdrive]

Awesome Job Hammer.....WOO HOO

-Superdrive

[vpalvarez]

now, you have to go find the story :)

Such as:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/54xxxxx/site/newsweek/

where xxxxx is something past 54606 :D or at least that appears to be their URL structure for stories.

For example the Iran story is at:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5454606/site/newsweek/

This is one of the "more funner" (sic) rumors, early proof!


There's just under 100,000 possiblities, I'll start at 1, you start at 99,999 and everyone else start near the middle. We can have it in two hours. Go

[JDOG_]

Nice work man, I think it's pretty undisputable that that's the new one ;) I think your new slogan should be "iHack therefore iAm."

[Dreamail]

I think your new slogan should be "iHack therefore iAm."
More like "iPod therefore iHack" ;)

[ArticulatedArm]

is it just my imagination or does the screen look more vivid? More high contrast? Is that an OLED screen?

[tomponce]

I'm still using the original iPod and although I know that many people had problems with battery life on the original, I was wondering if there are any people who are still using the original? I had a battery problem for a few days before Apple released the firmware update that fixed the battery life issue.

Anyone else out there still using the original iPod? Any problems with it? Mine is working flawlessly.

[vpalvarez]

Found a bigger copy of the same photograph...

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/040717_COVER.320w.jpg

Someone make mrdhammer a macrumors god!! He deserves it.

[bertagert]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/040717_COVER.320w.jpg

Jobs looks a little funky in this pic. Maybe he should have smiled a bit.

Neweeks - 0
Time - 0

Who's next?

[xsnightclub]

It looks like the menu choices are:

???? - highlighted
Extras
Settings
Shuffle Songs - ??? possibly
?????? - cannot tell

can anyone else read what the selections on the menu are?


Is Music the first selection?

[mrdhammer]

I'm trying to read the menu options on the iPod in the picture -- can anyone tell if they're any different that on the current iPods? I only have a 1G iPod so I don't know what the latest firmware is like...

[vpalvarez]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_Issue/040717_COVER.320w.jpg

If you look closely on the bottom, it says "Steve Jobs and the new iPod".
That info along with the date of the issue makes this pic induspituably accurate.

[zyuzin4]

It looks like the menu choices are:

???? - highlighted
Extras
Settings
Shuffle Songs - ??? possibly
?????? - cannot tell

can anyone else read what the selections on the menu are?


Is Music the first selection?

isn't the bottom choice "Backlight"?

[mlw1235]

It looks like the menu choices are:

???? - highlighted
Extras
Settings
Shuffle Songs - ??? possibly
?????? - cannot tell

can anyone else read what the selections on the menu are?


Is Music the first selection?


I think what you have there is right...

the bottom could be "backlight"
:D

[mrwilly123]

It looks like the menu choices are:

???? - highlighted
Extras
Settings
Shuffle Songs - ??? possibly
?????? - cannot tell

can anyone else read what the selections on the menu are?


Is Music the first selection?

looks like browse is the first selection, and backlight is the bottom selection

this is exciting! ive been waiting a while for this! mrdhammer, is it nice to likely be the first person not associated with apple, newsweek, or the release of this ipod to see it?

[xsnightclub]

I think what you have there is right...

the bottom could be "backlight"
:D

I don't think it is backlight, it doesn't seem to match my iPod looks like maybe two words maybe three seperated by "a" or something

Backlight is under settings

[vpalvarez]

It looks like the menu choices are:

???? - highlighted
Extras
Settings
Shuffle Songs - ??? possibly
?????? - cannot tell

can anyone else read what the selections on the menu are?


Is Music the first selection?

Using my SuperVision....I think the top says "browse"

and the bottom is backight.

So IT goes like this
Browse
Extras
Settings
Backlight

Not much different than what the current ipods say.

Look on Apples site: http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html

[JDOG_]

Yeah it's definitely backlight on the menu...(not like I've seen the thing I know)

And you'll also notice at the bottom of the cover it says: "Steve Jobs with the new iPod" Would like to have seen the screen get a bit bigger, but at least this rules out the oh-so-important color rumors eh?--The thing looks as white/blue as ever.

[xsnightclub]

Using my SuperVision....I think the top says "browse"

and the bottom is backight.

So IT goes like this
Browse
Extras
Settings
Backlight

Not much different than what the current ipods say.

Look on Apples site: http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html

Look closely at an iPod you have, the word Browse is longer than Extras, in the picture the top selection is shorter than Extras
If it is Music that would be shorter than Extras, and would lend a completely different menu for Music related selections

[Superdrive]

here's a little more confirmation
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5456893/site/newsweek/

[zyuzin4]

Look closely at an iPod you have, the word Browse is longer than Extras, in the picture the top selection is shorter than Extras

ah looks like it could say "Music" then

[npm]

I think the first line is "Music" and at first glance thought the last one said "Live ????"

[Mr.Bob]

This thread is hot, I was only away from my desk for a few hours.

I have no inside information regarding the new iPod pricing, just informed conclusion and common sense, although I do believe that the video iPod is coming sooner rather than later.

[xsnightclub]

ah looks like it could say "Music" then


also Backlight would not be long enough to match the picture, as it is only 1 letter longer than settings on the iPod and this selection is 2 or 3 characters longer

[vpalvarez]

I have a feeling that someone at Newsweek is going to get fired for posting this picture.

About the word Browse being longer than Extras. Maybe the top says Music instead of Browse. That way it would eliminate Playlists and Browse.

[mlw1235]

here's a little more confirmation
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5456893/site/newsweek/



I think this "rumor" is more of a fact now..
first the picture, now that article.... :D

[smegdude]

Using my SuperVision....I think the top says "browse"

and the bottom is backight.

So IT goes like this
Browse
Extras
Settings
Backlight

Not much different than what the current ipods say.

Look on Apples site: http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html

it also has shuffle songs between settings and backlight.
I wonder if it can do smart playlists on the fly?

i might go down to the local apple store and see if i can put down an order. If they deny all knowledge i can point them here, that might be fun.

[StudioGuy]

I have a feeling that someone at Newsweek is going to get fired for posting this picture.

About the word Browse being longer than Extras. Maybe the top says Music instead of Browse. That way it would eliminate Playlists and Browse.

Doubt it - they probably are always uploading stuff for review. The URLs aren't that obvious for the stories (a lot to try!), but I guess the covers are a little more predictable (or less to guess).

[zyuzin4]

also Backlight would not be long enough to match the picture, as it is only 1 letter longer than settings on the iPod and this selection is 2 or 3 characters longer

you can tell there is a "g" and barely a "ght" on the bottom row...what else could it be?

[xsnightclub]

It looks like the menu choices are:

???? - highlighted
Extras
Settings
Shuffle Songs - ??? possibly
?????? - cannot tell

can anyone else read what the selections on the menu are?


Is Music the first selection?

If Music is the first selection, it would lend a different menu set for Music and the rest of this menu set could be for NEW features

[xsnightclub]

you can tell there is a "g" and barely a "ght" on the bottom row...what else could it be?


siGHT, maybe???

[Superdrive]

full size:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_issue/040717_COVER.jpg

[zyuzin4]

full size:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_issue/040717_COVER.jpg

Beautiful!! Thanks! This ends the "what does it say" posts :p

[xsnightclub]

Yes, thanks for clearing that up and for the great .jpg.


Doesn't look like there will be many new features from this menu set than.

[Freg3000]

Music and backlight it is.

Kinda tells you the direction the iPod is going in if "Music" is an option. Instead of browse (your music, which is understood) it's now the more informative music.

Am I looking into this to deeply? :)

[stagmeister]

Maybe it's "music" ?

music = 5 characters
extras = 6 characters

edit: oops, didn't realize that people already figured it out. :) I had to register and all that good stuff

[zyuzin4]

Doesn't look like there will be many new features from this menu set than.


hoping the extras menu will be put to good use then

[xsnightclub]

Well, if this is the main menu, these selections are a good indication of nothing 'new' in this update other than click-wheel and size possibly.

A rather big yawn!

Now i am looking forward to seeing Sony's offerings when it comes out, if ATRAC isn't the only file type allowed on it. I will not upgrade from a 3g to this 4g if there aren't some major new features. Already have a 1g for nostalgias sake.

[vpalvarez]

The picture looks like the in ear headphones not the earbuds. Maybe the new ipod ships with the in ear phones instead of the mediorce bud style.

[Superdrive]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_issue/040717_IpodNew_vl.standard.jpg

[hobster]

Kinda odd that a new iPod would be introduced that doesn't seem to support Airtunes and the Airport Express, huh? Guess this mean that the iPod won't be a remote music source for a whole house wireless music system... (I'm just going off that main menu... Of course, it could be under that Extras menu!)

[xsnightclub]

The picture looks like the in ear headphones not the earbuds. Maybe the new ipod ships with the in ear phones instead of the mediorce bud style.

Looks like the same as shipped with the 3g Ipods

[zyuzin4]

Looks like the same as shipped with the 3g Ipods

i think you are right. the in ear phones have skinnier pointier tip leading to the wire...but i haven't seen the standard ear bud for a year

[jackc]

Holy S%#@, this is exciting. I've been holding out for an update, now it's time to cough up the cash! Hopefully the shipping date won't be too far out...

[xsnightclub]

Well, if this is the main menu, these selections are a good indication of nothing 'new' in this update other than click-wheel and size possibly.

A rather big yawn!

Now i am looking forward to seeing Sony's offerings when it comes out, if ATRAC isn't the only file type allowed on it. I will not upgrade from a 3g to this 4g if there aren't some major new features. Already have a 1g for nostalgias sake.

Well, if this is all there is to this 'update' to the iPod, it is now wonder they are debuting it through a magazine article. What would Steve do to wonder and amaze us at a press conference or regular product release with this seemingly mediocre 'update'

[FasterSoonerNow]

Holy S%#@, this is exciting. I've been holding out for an update, now it's time to cough up the cash! Hopefully the shipping date won't be too far out...

If it's going to be on Newsweek, I'm thinking it's actually going to be immediate... If not, a VERY short wait.

They've got national publicity. They aren't going to drop the ball this time.

[jackc]

They've got national publicity. They aren't going to drop the ball this time.

Hopefully Jobs will mention something about computers in that article too! Let's reel in the switchers...

[stagmeister]

They've got national publicity. They aren't going to drop the ball this time.

I feel like this is the case - well I certainly HOPE it's the case. They've got competition in the market, if they fix things like the battery life and perhaps add a few features or make it smaller, people will buy these things in DROVES. Not like they're not doing it already...

If they only have one color (white), then they shouldn't have supply problems either. I think that the reason that the mini's been having supply problems is that they make it in 6 or so different colors, so people order it in, say, silver or pink or blue or what, and have to wait for them to make that particular color.

[smegdude]

the headphones SJ is wearing are the regular ones, the in ear version don't have the kinda white stick with the buds coming off them.

[xsnightclub]

Innovation?

putting a click wheel on it. I am seriously hoping that this is just a product improvement (i.e. version 3.1 maybe), and the August rumors of an iPod update are true for a 4g iPod

And I don't think improving the battey life is worthy of a generation upgrade, that should have been done a long time ago. Apple really has to work hard if they want to maintain the iPods leader status, there is a lot of competition coming directly at them

[thediesel]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5456914/site/newsweek/

I have been putting in random numbers and found that. There is a story out there somewhere! Let's find it.

[stagmeister]

Innovation?

putting a click wheel on it. I am seriously hoping that this is just a product improvement (i.e. version 3.1 maybe), and the August rumors of an iPod update are true for a 4g iPod

I doubt they'll release these now and then another new one in a month... too many supply issues. If they didn't change the hardware (click wheel) that'd be one thing- a software update - but if they do that they'll piss a lot of people off as people upgrade to the newest one... don't want to release too many products too quickly. If they do it slowly they can get more people to buy them and maybe upgrade from one to the next.

[xsnightclub]

I doubt they'll release these now and then another new one in a month... too many supply issues. If they didn't change the hardware (click wheel) that'd be one thing- a software update - but if they do that they'll piss a lot of people off as people upgrade to the newest one... don't want to release too many products too quickly. If they do it slowly they can get more people to buy them and maybe upgrade from one to the next.

yes, I agree with you. But maybe this is the new outer case design which will follow in the following genration, but the 4g could incorprate a color screen and updated firmware.

Also, this could just be a prototype for the next generation and Steve is using it in the cover shoot. Which could mean no new iPod on Monday, and following up in the article that new iPods are coming in August.
This would be much more Apple-like, and using the prototype in the cover shoot alludes to a New iPod without giving away any new design features.

[mpopkin]

no

take a close look of the cover of newsweek magazine with steve jobs holding an ipod it has a clickwheel from the ipod mini, yep that is not the first gen ipod wheel that is a click wheel. talk about original, advertising for a new ipod on the cover of a national magazine, talk about crushing sony,






Out-of the-ordinary publicity medium means that it will be announced via the iTMS! :D
Newsweek Cover (http://www.macrumors.com/c.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmsnbcmedia.msn.com%2Fi%2Fmsnbc%2FSections%2FNewsweek%2FComponents%2FPhotos%2Fma g%2F040726_issue%2F040717_COVER.jpg)

[xsnightclub]

[QUOTE=mpopkin]no

take a close look of the cover of newsweek magazine with steve jobs holding an ipod it has a clickwheel from the ipod mini, yep that is not the first gen ipod wheel that is a click wheel. talk about original, advertising for a new ipod on the cover of a national magazine, talk about crushing sony,



WOW! Are you underestimating Sony.

[iChan]

Yes, thanks for clearing that up and for the great .jpg.


Doesn't look like there will be many new features from this menu set than.

still can't read what it says on the screen... </sarcasm>

[chabig]

Now i am looking forward to seeing Sony's offerings when it comes out, if ATRAC isn't the only file type allowed on it...

No need to wait. Sony has already made it clear that their player will only play ATRAC3 stuff.

Chris

[Freg3000]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_issue/040717_IpodNew_vl.standard.jpg

May I ask, as you find from where?

[xsnightclub]

No need to wait. Sony has already made it clear that their player will only play ATRAC3 stuff.

Chris

Did Sony say if they will include software to convert to ATRAC3, as iTunes is doing for WMA.
This may also be a moot issue, as Sony does not support Mac, but could change if they do in the future.

[rapps]

Maybe I should ebay my 15GB now...while I can still get something for it?

[vpalvarez]

Maybe I should ebay my 15GB now...while I can still get something for it?

good idea do it like right now so someone that isn't a mac-fanatic, and doesn't know about the impending update can give the "They update the ipod after I just bought mine" pity speech to everyone.

[xsnightclub]

From the picture the iPod does seem substanitally thinner and missing the chrome back half, which scratches ever so easily.

Could be very good if it is as thin as it seems, as long as battery life is not compromised. Actually battery life needs to be much better.

[xsnightclub]

Hopefully Jobs will mention something about computers in that article too! Let's reel in the switchers...

I Second that, it would be a great place to also mention the new iMacs.

[zyuzin4]

Maybe I should ebay my 15GB now...while I can still get something for it?

might as well if you are planning on selling it anyways. I sold my 1G on ebay right before the 2G came out. The lady who bought it asked for a refund after the 2G came out citing no reason for wanting a refund so I declined and made a bit more money than I should have

[eyefragment]

Something interesting. I've been brute forcing the site, and every set of numbers I have tried have linked to an article, book, or picture, except...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5456957/site/newsweek/

That link says it's "outdated." Both 5456956 and 5456958 work. Perhaps our article was taken down?

I'm not giving up hope. More brute forcing to do... hmm hmm...

[xsnightclub]

Maybe I should ebay my 15GB now...while I can still get something for it?

Why don't you wait to read the article on Monday. Just because Steve is on the cover with what appears to be a new iPod, doesn't mean it is THE new iPod. This could just be an article on the success of iPod/iTunes and the re-direction of Apple Consumer Electronics er. I mean Apple Computer. Maybe the rumors of the August iPod update are more accurate, this could just be a prototype in his hands.

[xsnightclub]

Maybe the photo of Steve with the new iPod is an introductory lowend model, the same features as the existing iPod in the newly designed case (MSRP $249). Than there are the NEW true next 4g iPods with available color screen, updated firmware etc. (MSRP $399 and up)

[iChan]

Maybe the photo of Steve with the new iPod is an introductory lowend model, the same features as the existing iPod in the newly designed case (MSRP $249). Than there are the NEW true next 4g iPods with available color screen, updated firmware etc. (MSRP $399 and up)

that is a nice theory... doubtful though IMO

[eyefragment]

Alright, while brute forcing, I've gone through all articles 5456893 and up. So, we need to start lower.

Also, ignore the error. There were SEVERAL error pages, and I assume that they aren't all ipod related. Also, I noticed that all articles 5457095 and up were error pages, so that's where the articles stop.

[aseh]

Here are two more pictures from the article:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Art/COVER/040717/TZ215_iPod_115p.standard.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Fronts/TSMs/nw_hp_ipod_040718_tsm.jpg

[Blue Moon]

just go to their website (applenova.com) and read the 2 or 3 articles that'll explain all you need to know.

jph

Indeed. That's a pretty crazy story. I hope they prosper.

[FuzzyBallz]

No surprise there. Bigger HD + mini wheel + mini color + even less battery life = 4G iPod. Jobs/Apple is slipping.

[rock6079]

i wonder when the flood of ipods is gonna hit ebay. mine may be up there soon....

[Duff-Man]

No surprise there. Bigger HD + mini wheel + mini color + even less battery life = 4G iPod. Jobs/Apple is slipping.Duff-Man says...how about we wait to see what the specs/features/battery life etc really are on these new pods before we complain about them.....oh yeah!

[xtekdiver]

Here is the link with a pic of the new iPod and the strange new advertising...

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_issue/040717_COVER.jpg

[Blue Moon]

Here is the link with a pic of the new iPod and the strange new advertising...

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_issue/040717_COVER.jpg

Thanks for the news flash, Tom Brokaw.

[agentbristow]

I have been waiting for the next gen iPod to buy one. I had an original 5gb iPod, but it got busted, and I need to get a new one. I just hope that the price goes down I may just buy one when they are released.

[mangophreek]

HAHHHAHAA :D :D

In his defense, not that I'm not laughing too, but if I had just logged on and found this before checking the forums I would post right away before reading the 9+ pages about it.

It's 11:00 P.M. Do you know where your iPods are?

[chabig]

Did Sony say if they will include software to convert to ATRAC3, as iTunes is doing for WMA.
This may also be a moot issue, as Sony does not support Mac, but could change if they do in the future.

Yes. Sony includes Windows only software to transcode to ATRAC3. Part of the inelegance of this solution is that transcoded music suffers a loss in quality, and it slows down the loading of the device. It will no doubt take hours and hours to copy all of your music over to the player thanks for the transcoding issue, rather than minutes for a straight copy.

Chris

[Stella]

WHY would you have to buy a new iPod? If you have one, whats wrong with that - it won't suddenly stop working!?


And now I have to buy a new iPod? Man This is getting expensive. Here is to hoping they come do in fact come out soon! Although if there is no knew features, I may have to pass :eek:

Can we get AirTunes into an iPod?

[rapps]

Well...I'm going to be buying a powerbook in the next few weeks and was upset about not taking advantage of the cram and jam deal (I've got a 15GB).

So....I put up my 2 month old 15GB on ebay for a 1 day auction. I figure its worth the risk...considering the drop in value they may have once the new ones come out. So, now I guess I'll pick up a new one when they get released :D

[mangophreek]

Well...I'm going to be buying a powerbook in the next few weeks and was upset about not taking advantage of the cram and jam deal (I've got a 15GB).

So....I put up my 2 month old 15GB on ebay for a 1 day auction. I figure its worth the risk...considering the drop in value they may have once the new ones come out. So, now I guess I'll pick up a new one when they get released :D

I ordered my 17" and 20GB Thursday. I am calling Monday to see if they can switch it to the new model. I think my straights are more dire than yours :) I don't see why it would be a problem for me, because it saves everyone the hassle of the return process etc... For all I know they are going to just ship me that one anyway. We'll find out.

Apple seems to like me, I was one of those lucky Powerbook "call-back" customers you heard about the other day. $300 extra off + Edu discount + Cram and Jam.

[Stella]

This iPod release could be just so apple can sell the iPods more cheaply... there is more competition now that a year ago. Apple need to compete without letting the iPods seems overly expensive.. It worked before because there weren't comparable devices.. but this has changed.

Additionally, maybe they've been able to increase the battery life.. which is one major weakness of the iPod when compared against other MP3 players... and has of course recieved alot of bad press.


If there aren't any software changes, then it'll be a pretty boring release.

[rapps]

I must have missed that one!! How the heck did you get an additional $300 off?!!

[Superdrive]

May I ask, as you find from where?

Just entering numbers. I do not remember as I have done 5456000 and up. :eek:

-Superdrive

[rapps]

Wanna take bets as to whether apples stock starts the day up on Monday

;)

[mangophreek]

I must have missed that one!! How the heck did you get an additional $300 off?!!

Well there was the rumour the other day that Apple was calling back customes who logged in with their Apple ID, put an order together for a Powerbook or iBook and never completed it. Later that week they would get calls back from Apple giving them "special deals."

So normally I just go on the Apple Store website and randomly add things together until I have the funds to buy them. So then my student loans became active and at the same time, my parents offered to let me us a credit card. So I got a price for them while logged in with my Apple ID after reading the rumour and the next day they called my house asking if I intended to purchase the order I had saved and that they would give me an additional $300 off to order it that night. So I did.

Edit: http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=542 is the story. I found it on MacBlog, which is a new "everything you need" Mac site. It's http://macblog.org .

[rapps]

Well there was the rumour the other day that Apple was calling back customes who logged in with their Apple ID, put an order together for a Powerbook or iBook and never completed it. Later that week they would get calls back from Apple giving them "special deals."

So normally I just go on the Apple Store website and randomly add things together until I have the funds to buy them. So then my student loans became active and at the same time, my parents offered to let me us a credit card. So I got a price for them while logged in with my Apple ID after reading the rumour and the next day they called my house asking if I intended to purchase the order I had saved and that they would give me an additional $300 off to order it that night. So I did.


Wow...thats odd! I didn't know they actually take a look at whats in your cart. Thats a great deal. I really could use an extra 300 off!

[OziMac]

I ordered my 17" and 20GB Thursday. I am calling Monday to see if they can switch it to the new model. I think my straights are more dire than yours :) I don't see why it would be a problem for me, because it saves everyone the hassle of the return process etc... For all I know they are going to just ship me that one anyway. We'll find out.

Apple seems to like me, I was one of those lucky Powerbook "call-back" customers you heard about the other day. $300 extra off + Edu discount + Cram and Jam.

Indeed you are lucky. But I wouldn't expect to get a 4g iPod with Cram and Jam. The terms of the deal seem specifically to refer to the current stock of 3g iPods (and not including the Minis). People have said it elsewhere, but you'd think the reason they offer deals like this is to clear inventory of old stock.

[mangophreek]

Indeed you are lucky. But I wouldn't expect to get a 4g iPod with Cram and Jam. The terms of the deal seem specifically to refer to the current stock of 3g iPods (and not including the Minis). People have said it elsewhere, but you'd think the reason they offer deals like this is to clear inventory of old stock.

Oh well, there will be a 5G and 6G sometime down the road I can get. A 3G will be enough for me in University.

[vpalvarez]

Heres the link for Steven LEvy's article on the ipod. It is marked at the top for the July 26th issue.!!!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457432/site/newsweek

Thank You

[discomonkey]

Indeed you are lucky. But I wouldn't expect to get a 4g iPod with Cram and Jam. The terms of the deal seem specifically to refer to the current stock of 3g iPods (and not including the Minis). People have said it elsewhere, but you'd think the reason they offer deals like this is to clear inventory of old stock.

The cram and jam deal actually says "with the purchase of any Apple Ipod (except mini:...)" and it lists the models for all the mini's - so because it didn't say anything about it having to be a 3G Ipod, do you think we can apply this cram and jam to the new Ipods? Either way, do we know that they will be available on Monday? Or even before the Cram and Jam deal ends? Maybe it's just a press release about the new Ipods but they won't be available for shipping (or purchasing) until (conveniently) after September 25, when the Cram and Jam ends. Boo urns...

[ericnovember]

Has anyone speculated on whether or not the older peripherals (e.g. dock, cables, chargers) will work on this new 4g/3.1g iPod?

[vpalvarez]

The article I posted:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457432/site/newsweek

makes no mention of the new ipod, but it seems to be the cover article from the 7/26 issue.

I'll keep looking

[rapps]

The article I posted:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457432/site/newsweek

makes no mention of the new ipod, but it seems to be the cover article from the 7/26 issue.

I'll keep looking


I believe the 3rd page makes a passing remark about the newly released model. Nothing about specs....just that a new model has been released.

Do you see it?

[Duff-Man]

The article I posted:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457432/site/newsweek

makes no mention of the new ipod, but it seems to be the cover article from the 7/26 issue.

I'll keep lookingDuff-Man says...from page 3 of the article:
The introduction of the new iPods this week extends the company's technology lead. - I think that pretty clearly stated new iPods this week, doesn't it...oh yeah!

[rapps]

Oh YEA!!!

When do we find out what sets these apart from 3G?!

[BeanTownBrawler]

All I really care about is...when will I be able to get my hands on one?

[Duff-Man]

All I really care about is...when will I be able to get my hands on one?Duff-Man says...I suspect we will know the answer to that on monday but as I said in the other thread, I suspect they will be available immediately except perhaps the top-end 60gb one....oh yeah!

[mangophreek]

I e-mailed my friendly nieghbourhood Apple CSR (who took my order from me, apparently he checks his e-mail at 1:30am on Saturdays). I said:

Hi XXXXXX,

I placed an order ( XXXXXXXXX ) for a Powerbook, iPod (20gb), iSight and battery with you last Thursday. I heard from various sources that Apple is introducing a new form factor iPod on Monday as advertised in the article in Newsweek (see attached file). If Apple does introduce this new iPod formfactor/generation, would it be possible for my order to be changed from the current model to the new one of equivalent features (size, with Dock, price isn't too much of an issue) and still be able to use the cram and jam promotion?

Here is the link to the file on the newsweek website:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040726_issue/040717_COVER.jpg

And in case it is taken down, I have attached it within this e-mail.

I hope it won't be a problem to get the new form factor with my order, as it says the current shipping date for my iPod is estimated at July 27th.

Thank you for any help, I don't expect a reply until this is officially announced by Apple anyway.

<040717_COVER.jpg>

And got the reply...

I will give yo a call on monday, until then we will see.

XXXXXXXXXXX

Edit: Took out a random P that somehow got in there, damn Microsoft Wireless keyboard! And as a note, I XXXXXXX'd his identity because I don't know if his job would be on the line for this or not, so we'll play it safe :)

[vpalvarez]

Here's a funny picture of Steve using a PC (why is he smiling...it must be Alicia)

[nologo]

Looking at that email of yours, I noticed that you have boxes for the Sheridan Institute as well as York. Are you taking the Bachelor of Design (Honors) course there?

Anyways, we'll see how great these iPods are monday.

Cheers.

[mangophreek]

Looking at that email of yours, I noticed that you have boxes for the Sheridan Institute as well as York. Are you taking the Bachelor of Design (Honors) course there?

Yup, going into first year. Fresh out of highschool but I already have a very strong portfolio. I did print and web design for a local company, won an international web design competition, gold at Skills Canada for graphic design and many, many more things. I have a minimal portfolio I made in about 2 hours for a project on my website which you can get to through my profile.

[Floop]

Heres the link for Steven LEvy's article on the ipod. It is marked at the top for the July 26th issue.!!!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457432/site/newsweek

Thank You

Well located :-)

[smegdude]

where are the specs!?!?! Why would apple announce a new ipod without telling people all the specs and new features to go with it??? Anyone else think that apple will make it available tomorrow for order on the website?

another thing, did macrumors find this article first? I'm pretty sure this was the case, but there are a few other websites out there trying to take the credit, and i think thats not fair! Can anyone varify this at all?