UK/London: 2010 Public Transport Fares Announced

[robbieduncan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8307698.stm

And what a surprise: up by more than inflation (much more in some cases).

:mad:

[edesignuk]

Nice one Boris, really on top of things, you pompous arse.

[I'm aware it's not all his fault, but it makes me feel better to bitch about it, k?]

[Jaffa Cake]

Maybe all you commuters should go on strike?

[robbieduncan]

Maybe all you commuters should go on strike?

I am considering something similar (not using the system and walking to work more or even cycling). I am amazingly lucky in the fact that this is possible due to the shortness, in London terms, of my commute. I really don't see the value in paying £2.50 (or more, I haven't seen the exact figure) a day to travel less than 2 miles each way to and from work.

[Cabbit]

I am considering something similar (not using the system and walking to work more or even cycling). I am amazingly lucky in the fact that this is possible due to the shortness, in London terms, of my commute. I really don't see the value in paying £2.50 (or more, I haven't seen the exact figure) a day to travel less than 2 miles each way to and from work.

A mile is about a 15-25 minute walk for most maybe more if your rather slow, try walking or cycling(this had the downside that you can melt into your work cloths and stink all day). Its better for your health and you mite end up getting there quicker depending on how much time you spend waiting on that bus coming.

[arkitect]

I really don't see the value in paying £2.50 (or more, I haven't seen the exact figure) a day to travel less than 2 miles each way to and from work.

2 miles only?
You'd hardly break a sweat if you cycled that… even if dressed in a suit 'n tie. :)
I do 3 miles (each way) just to get to the gym and shops.

Get one of these… nice and small once folded.
http://img.cube.eu/bikes/UCS_600px.jpg

[Cabbit]

2 miles only?
You'd hardly break a sweat if you cycled that… even if dressed in a suit 'n tie. :)
I do 3 miles (each way) just to get to the gym and shops.

Get one of these… nice and small once folded.
http://img.cube.eu/bikes/UCS_600px.jpg

I am finding people these days i talk to are scared of walking more than 5 minutes, i do not understand it. Getting on a bus for 2 miles is insane to me.
There must be something wrong with a nations mindset that thinks walking 1-3 miles is to much, though i can understand 3+ miles as that starts to exceed 45 minutes.

[arkitect]

I am finding people these days i talk to are scared of walking more than 5 minutes, i do not understand it. Getting on a bus for 2 miles is insane to me.
There must be something wrong with a nations mindset that thinks walking 1-3 miles is to much, though i can understand 3+ miles as that starts to exceed 45 minutes.

I agree. :) Especially with city traffic a bus journey can be a nightmare… then getting down into the bowels of the tube in London is no fun either.

I just prefer to stay above ground and in the open air as much as possible. Less coughing and sneezing. :D

[robbieduncan]

To make it clear I don't take a bus. I take a small computer driven train. I have walked it quite a few times. Takes about 45 minutes due to road crossings etc. It only takes 25 minutes door-to-door taking the train. So the basic decision comes down to how much am I willing to pay to save 20 minutes?

[arkitect]

To make it clear I don't take a bus.

Perish the thought, eh? ;)

[robbieduncan]

Perish the thought, eh? ;)

Given the traffic in London I'd be quicker walking some mornings :p London buses are very good as long as you use them at the correct time. Normally that's not rush hour

[remmy]

:mad: Expensive enough as it is. Wish I lived closer to central London, wouldn't cycle to the local tube station, bike would get nicked/smashed up. Actually I'm not sure if there is anywhere to actually legally secure it.

[OllyW]

Have a look at the Cycle to Work scheme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_to_Work_scheme) if you are thinking about getting a bike.

[bigandy]

Fecking Boris. :mad:


I couldn't cycle to work. Mostly because the chances of being killed or having my bike stolen while locked outside my Soho office are just way too high*.











* I say this despite living in North London... :rolleyes:

[Dagless]

So long as the price of a Day Saver on a GM bus doesn't rise outside of London I'll be happy.
I agree with walking though. My town centre is about 3 miles away and we've made it there in 35 minutes in the past. The only time I started to gain weight was when I stopped walking to town (had no need to go) :o.

[star-fish]

I love living in a part of England with free buses. And the buses you do have to pay for have comfy leather seats :)

[remmy]

I love living in a part of England with free buses. And the buses you do have to pay for have comfy leather seats :)

Where is that or are you over 60?

[robbieduncan]

Well screw em. I walked home. Took 40 minutes door-to-door so quite manageable :)

[bartelby]

Have a look at the Cycle to Work scheme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_to_Work_scheme) if you are thinking about getting a bike.

I got a nice Giant FCR 3 through that scheme, unfortunately cycling and ME/CFS don't like each other. So I've only used it 3 times...:o:(

[peskaa]

2 miles only?
You'd hardly break a sweat if you cycled that… even if dressed in a suit 'n tie. :)
I do 3 miles (each way) just to get to the gym and shops.

Get one of these… nice and small once folded.
http://img.cube.eu/bikes/UCS_600px.jpg

That bike looks awesome. Truly.

[star-fish]

Where is that or are you over 60?

Ha ha...I'm 22 and I live in the Midlands. Cities here are cheaper than in the north and the south but still have good access to all parts of the country ;)

[arkitect]

Ha ha...I'm 22 and I live in the Midlands. Cities here are cheaper than in the north and the south but still have good access to all parts of the country ;)

And the buses are free? Wow.
*Considers moving north of London*
Hmmmm.
Thinks again… ;)

[iBlue]

Ha ha...I'm 22 and I live in the Midlands. Cities here are cheaper than in the north and the south but still have good access to all parts of the country ;)

Yeah but you still have to live in the midlands. :p

[Jaffa Cake]

Ha ha...I'm 22 and I live in the Midlands. Cities here are cheaper than in the north and the south but still have good access to all parts of the country ;)Shh! If they know how truly ace life outside of London is we'll be inundated with cockneys - think before you post, man!

[OllyW]

Shh! If they know how truly ace life outside of London is we'll be inundated with cockneys - think before you post, man!

It's never going to happen, they wouldn't survive without their jellied eels and diamond geezers.

[iBlue]

And this (http://www.jonathanmacdonald.com/?p=4024) is the sort of crap we have to pay such high prices for... and endure their holding us all hostage with the incessant striking (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=801751) for. :rolleyes:

[Eraserhead]

Ha ha...I'm 22 and I live in the Midlands. Cities here are cheaper than in the north and the south but still have good access to all parts of the country ;)

Which town?

I have to admit while I think the tube drivers are probably paid enough, and the fares shouldn't go up (after thinking about it a bit more) like this it should be said (to counteract the British obsession with whining :p) that the London transport network is still one of the worlds best - only Tokyo, Paris and Hong Kong and maybe Beijing and Osaka really have as good a system.

Now sure in the next 10 years they'll be joined by Singapore and Beijing for sure and probably quite a few others, but we aren't there yet.

[arkitect]

the London transport network is still one of the worlds best - only Tokyo, Paris and Hong Kong and maybe Beijing and Osaka really have as good a system.

Now sure in the next 10 years they'll be joined by Singapore and Beijing for sure and probably quite a few others, but we aren't there yet.

I can't wait for 2012… I just do not have any faith in the infrastructure being strong enough for the Olympics as well as the usual '000s of summer tourists. :o and wouldn't it be a luvverly opportunity to have a nice strike?

I'd have put Singapore in the top list already.

[star-fish]

Yeah but you still have to live in the midlands. :p

Of course, you're right. My quality of life is so poor because I don't pay £200,000 for a bathroom-sized flat. I'm sure in the future my children's lives will suffer from the lower pollution levels and bigger garden ;)

I've stayed in houses and apartments all over London and I wouldn't live there if they were free. London's a nice place to visit for a couple of days, but it's not a happy place to be.

[remmy]

Which town?

Don't tell him, he might move in.

I did notice when visiting friends that the north was quite nice to live and cheap. But think I would rather move south,,, like France or Spain.

[Dagless]

Don't tell him, he might move in.

I did notice when visiting friends that the north was quite nice to live and cheap. But think I would rather move south,,, like France or Spain.

It's not about being cheaper in the north, it's about everywhere being cheaper outside London. We could trade our house up here in the Peak District for a similar sized place in Kent, Cornwall, Dorset or wherever.

[Blinkwing]

I sense another fire in London ...

[iGav]

I couldn't cycle to work.

I frequently used to ride into Soho when I worked there from Shad Thames, Turnpike Lane, and later, way over in the East End... Walthamstow. I'm still alive. Have great thighs too. :D

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Perish the thought, eh? ;)

Given the traffic in London I'd be quicker walking some mornings :p London buses are very good as long as you use them at the correct time. Normally that's not rush hour

You'd think robbie was joking, wouldn't you?

It used to take 35-45 minutes to take the bus to work, and 35-40 minutes if I was walking. Walking had fewer variables to consider. ;)

[Eraserhead]

I'd have put Singapore in the top list already.

The problem with Singapore is that if you want to travel somewhere there isn't a metro line - like the zoo, the bus takes ages - even in the middle of the day.

I suppose the circle line isn't great in London :o.

It used to take 35-45 minutes to take the bus to work, and 35-40 minutes if I was walking. Walking had fewer variables to consider. ;)

That's pretty bad.