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leekohler
Oct 21, 2009, 09:36 PM
The new Washington Post/ABC news poll has all sorts of intriguing numbers in it but when you are looking for clues as to where the two parties stand politically there is only one number to remember: 21.

That's the percent of people in the Post/ABC survey who identified themselves as Republicans, down from 25 percent in a late March poll and at the lowest ebb in this poll since the fall of 1983(!).

In that same poll, 35 percent self-identified as Democrats and 38 percent called them Independents.

These numbers come on the heels of Steve Schmidt, former campaign manager for Arizona Sen. John McCain's presidential bid, declaring the Republican party a "shrinking entity" last week -- citing the decline of GOP numbers in the west, northeast and mountain west as evidence.

And they show a somewhat significant decline from even last November's election when exit polls showed 32 percent of voters identifying as Republican as compared to 39 percent for Democrats and 29 percent for independents and others. (A caveat: voters tend to see things through a more partisan lens after having just voted in a presidential election than they do in an April poll.)

The Post poll numbers show the challenge for Republicans in stark terms.

The number of people who see themselves as GOPers is on the decline even as those who remain within the party grow more and more conservative.

That means that the loyal base of the party has an even larger voice in terms of the direction it heads even as more and more empirical evidence piles up that the elevation of voices like former vice president Dick Cheney does little to win over wavering Republicans or recruit Independents back to the GOP cause.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/parsing-the-polls/21-percent.html

Keep up the good work, Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter and Hannity. With your party becoming more and more extreme, you're going to keep losing more and more people.



Lord Blackadder
Oct 21, 2009, 09:40 PM
I agree, the Republican platform is the least attractive to moderates right now.

They are going to have to soften their tone in order to win back voters. The far-right crazies will keep the base happy but repel moderates and centrists.

leekohler
Oct 21, 2009, 09:44 PM
I agree, the Republican platform is the least attractive to moderates right now.

They are going to have to soften their tone in order to win back voters. The far-right crazies will keep the base happy but repel moderates and centrists.

They are reaping what they've been sowing. But hey- they'll be very happy, because they are the "real" conservatives. :rolleyes:

And they won't soften their tone. Everyone else is wrong, remember?

bobber205
Oct 21, 2009, 09:47 PM
They are reaping what they've been sowing. But hey- they'll be very happy, because they are the "real" conservatives. :rolleyes:

And they won't soften their tone. Everyone else is wrong, remember?

In the real America. Don't forget that.

Rodimus Prime
Oct 21, 2009, 09:49 PM
well as time goes on you will expect the democrat party to split into 2 parties as well. The liberal and the conservative side.

leekohler
Oct 21, 2009, 09:51 PM
well as time goes on you will expect the democrat party to split into 2 parties as well. The liberal and the conservative side.

The Republican party isn't splitting in two. It's imploding.

obeygiant
Oct 21, 2009, 10:01 PM
The Republican party isn't splitting in two. It's imploding.

Why do you care, lee?

Zombie Acorn
Oct 21, 2009, 10:01 PM
It doesn't surprise me that the Republicans are losing to Independents, but that doesn't really say much when it comes to voting between the two parties because for the most part they both suck balls.

The Republican party has put itself into a really weird conflicted position due to the last administration. All of the supposed core values of the platform are about as solid as styrofoam in gasoline. Then add a few nutball commentators trying to tow the supposed "line" and you end up in the twilight zone somewhere before the rooster eats your breakfast and the dog reading the newspaper.

sushi
Oct 21, 2009, 10:01 PM
REP from 32 to 21 --> Minus 9 points

DEM from 39 to 35 --> Minus 4 points

IND from 29 to 38 --> Plus 9 points

So from 100% to 94%? Something doesn't add up.

Lord Blackadder
Oct 21, 2009, 10:02 PM
Why do you care, lee?

If that question was any more leading I'd say you two are doing the two-step. :)

leekohler
Oct 21, 2009, 10:06 PM
Why do you care, lee?

Because it's good news to see that people are walking away from a party that has become far too extreme. It's good to see that people are rejecting something that has become as twisted as the Republican Party. It restores my faith in the human race. That's why I care.