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MacBytes
Jul 23, 2004, 08:58 AM
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Link: Senator wants to ban P2P networks (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040723095854)
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omnivector
Jul 23, 2004, 09:27 AM
senator bans knives to stop stabbings
senator bans guns to stop shootings
senator bans cars to stop hit-and-runs


crimes are committed by people not by p2p infrastructures

jholzner
Jul 23, 2004, 10:14 AM
senator bans knives to stop stabbings
senator bans guns to stop shootings
senator bans cars to stop hit-and-runs


crimes are committed by people not by p2p infrastructures

He's a republican...I'm sure he won't ban guns...but p2p...ban away I guess.

whatever...

mcarvin
Jul 23, 2004, 10:32 AM
crimes are committed by people not by p2p infrastructures

Orrin Hatch was never quite on the ball when it came to anything digital/internet-oriented. That being said, it's very unfortunate that his decades in government (hella good reason for term limits) has given him not insignificant influence.

steveh
Jul 23, 2004, 12:11 PM
He's a republican...I'm sure he won't ban guns...

You need to get out more. Republican senators are only slightly less likely to vote for gun bans than Democrat. On that topic, they've got no more sense than an above-average gerbil.

Chaffee of Rhode Island is a sterling exemplar...

jimjiminyjim
Jul 23, 2004, 12:28 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. Why don't they just ban telephones. People organize crimes over phones. Stupid.

question fear
Jul 23, 2004, 12:41 PM
well they can't ban software based outside the US, right?
so unless they're planning to prosecute people who d/l the software, its still going to be tough to enforce this.

Bunzi2k4
Jul 23, 2004, 12:49 PM
well we can't let p2p continue this way, something must be done. sure, banning may not be the right answer, but at least he's trying... i honestly thing regulating or making p2p totally legal is impossible.

g30ffr3y
Jul 23, 2004, 01:04 PM
well we can't let p2p continue this way, something must be done. sure, banning may not be the right answer, but at least he's trying... i honestly thing regulating or making p2p totally legal is impossible.


why not... they should just leave it alone... no one is going to
stop sharing/theft/whatever...

blockbuster now has a deal where you can rent all you want
for 14.95 the first month... so for fifteen bucks you can potentially
back up a hundred or more dvds... are they going to outlaw
blockbuster now for making it so cost efficient to "backup" dvds
illegally...

f-that... government should have better things to worry about...

space2go
Jul 23, 2004, 02:37 PM
Gotta hope nobody ever tells that dude that the internet essentially is a single huge P2P network. ;)

themadchemist
Jul 23, 2004, 02:45 PM
Thanks for everything, Orrin! You're so awesome!

Let's convict OS companies, hardware manufacturers, and companies that make desks for letting computers operate in a comfortable environment that allows P2P's to operate! Let's convict journalists for talking about things that exist!

It's kind of like convicting a President for high crimes and misdemeanors for having an affair, while praising the guy who bumbled up a war costing billions in dollars and thousands in lives. :rolleyes:

broken_keyboard
Jul 24, 2004, 01:10 AM
Let's ban senators for abusing their authority.
;)

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 24, 2004, 04:52 PM
Let's ban senators for abusing their authority.
;)

So many other things that they be working on.

More the reason to ban lobbyist money from funding the political campaigns. We are nation for the people, by the people. Corporations are not people.

themadchemist
Jul 24, 2004, 05:06 PM
So many other things that they be working on.


No! There's no greater peril facing this nation than downloaded mp3s and gays tying the knot.

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 24, 2004, 05:34 PM
No! There's no greater peril facing this nation than downloaded mp3s and gays tying the knot.

Oops, I forgot! :(

jimjiminyjim
Jul 25, 2004, 12:39 PM
Problem is, we just don't find it interesting to talk about the issues we should really face. World hunger? That's for 30 second commercial clips and paid programming. Eradication of diseases? Let WHO work on that, we're not interested. Give us controversy, give us blood, give us something to fight over...

If only we could find a reason to fight over stopping hunger, we'd work a little harder at it. Forget an arms race, let's have a "feed the hungry" race.

iMeowbot
Jul 25, 2004, 01:22 PM
well they can't ban software based outside the US, right?
so unless they're planning to prosecute people who d/l the software, its still going to be tough to enforce this.
(g)(1) In this subsection, the term `intentionally induces' means intentionally aids, abets, induces, or procures, and intent may be shown by acts from which a reasonable person would find intent to induce infringement based upon all relevant information about such acts then reasonably available to the actor, including whether the activity relies on infringement for its commercial viability.
In other words, the acts of obtaining and using p2p software would also be covered. The idea is specifically to work around murky international arrangements like KaZaA.