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janitorC7
Oct 30, 2009, 07:28 PM
It still needs work with sentence construction but aside from that I would love input.
Thanks
JC7
I'm not going to say my life has been wrought with hardships - it hasn’t. Truth be told, life has been pretty good to me. I'm your average white boy from a middle- class family attending a challenging college preparatory school in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de los Angeles de Porciuncula - The city of Angels - or Los Angeles, for short. But everybody has their battles and adversities. For me, it was speaking - not public speaking, necessarily, but, like, putting words together to, like, you know....... talk.
Starting in 2nd grade some of my greatest thoughts remained unexpressed though an inability to communicate. It was not that I didn't know the words that i wanted to say, but that when I tried to speak, I would get hung up on the first sound of the first word I wanted to say, rendering me speechless for 20 seconds or more as I stuttered.
I spent the greater part of three years seeing speech therapists who tried to help me, to no avail.
By 6th grade I had all but given up. I became a rather silenced kid. A lot was going on inside my head, but no one else seemed to know this. I wanted to voice my opinions on books, friends and politics but, sadly, my tongue did not share a similar aspiration.
Once I started middle school an opportunity presented itself: Speech and Debate. Campbell Hall did not have a debate team. However, my best friends and I always enjoyed bickering back and forth about the latest news and political Issues. One day after a stimulating history class my teacher told me how expressive my ideas were. When I told her I enjoyed arguing my opinions, she jokingly said I should be a debater. As nonchalant as this statement may have been, I don’t think she could have realized the can of worms she had just opened, and how much of her free time she’d just volunteered away.
"Ms. Hong, can we start a debate team?”
Needless to say, we started a team, and were a founding member of one of the first middle school debate leagues in the United States: the MSPDP.
Public speaking presented a new understanding of communication for me. Somehow, I felt more comfortable talking in front of a crowd of people who were there for the sole purpose of listening to me than I did in one-on-one conversation. My first speech –on violent video games- was the beginning of a long journey during which I became an accomplished speaker, a feat that three different speech therapists thought impossible.
I continued to debate in the parliamentary format throughout junior high school and was ranked as high as second in the league. But faced another problem at the commencement of high school: no debate team. So I founded a high school team as well. During these years I’ve competed in two formats: National Extemporaneous and Parliamentary. I’m proud to report that this stuttering elementary school kid is now State-ranked in Extemporaneous, Second- Place Speaker at the prestigious Pepperdine Invitational, Semi-Finalist at the Stanford tournament, Member with Special Distinction of the National Forensic League, Audition Finalist for Team USA, Campbell Hall Speaker of the Year, and the executive officer of our debate team, which continues to grow
My love of debate has inspired me to train others to follow in my footsteps. Since leaving middle school, I have coached the Junior High Team. I now also train novices from Campbell Hall competing for the first time in High School, in the hopes that they can find the same joy in speaking that I have. Thanks to debating, the old adage, "your greatest adversity can become your greatest asset" has made itself crystal clear.
kellen
Oct 30, 2009, 07:32 PM
college, not collage. Unless you did attend a challenging collage preparatory school.
kellen
Oct 30, 2009, 07:39 PM
Heres some more.
First paragraph: Ditch the el pueblo de..... has nothing to do with it. I see you are trying to go for a light mood, but I don't like how you start it out. Life being pretty good and you being a "white boy". I would get rid of the average white boy and put in something less specific. White boy sounds too personal and could easily be taken the wrong way. The second sentence is a run on, way too long. I get you are trying to imitate you speaking troubles when you say this "but like, putting words together to like, you know, talk" or at least I hope you are. However it sounds odd and again could be mistaken for poor writing skills My opinion.
2nd paragraph: Cut it up. Needs more periods, less commas.
What is campbell hall? Your high school? Needs more to it or I don't know what it is.
History class doesn't need to be capitalized.
Thats all I got so far. How close are you to the limit of characters? If you need to cut some stuff out, it seems you can bring the first 3 or so paragraphs together, they seem to have some thought overlap.
Its good you are using a problem you got over in your essay and relating examples to that to show your strengths. Just flesh it out more and make it more clear.
thegoldenmackid
Oct 30, 2009, 07:54 PM
Glad to see a fellow debater, although a slightly different format.
janitorC7
Oct 30, 2009, 08:12 PM
college, not collage. Unless you did attend a challenging collage preparatory school.
I can't possibly begin to explain how many time I have done that, its a habit to shake.
Heres some more.
First paragraph: Ditch the el pueblo de..... has nothing to do with it. I see you are trying to go for a light mood, but I don't like how you start it out. Life being pretty good and you being a "white boy". I would get rid of the average white boy and put in something less specific. White boy sounds too personal and could easily be taken the wrong way. The second sentence is a run on, way too long. I get you are trying to imitate you speaking troubles when you say this "but like, putting words together to like, you know, talk" or at least I hope you are. However it sounds odd and again could be mistaken for poor writing skills My opinion.
2nd paragraph: Cut it up. Needs more periods, less commas.
What is campbell hall? Your high school? Needs more to it or I don't know what it is.
History class doesn't need to be capitalized.
Thats all I got so far. How close are you to the limit of characters? If you need to cut some stuff out, it seems you can bring the first 3 or so paragraphs together, they seem to have some thought overlap.
Its good you are using a problem you got over in your essay and relating examples to that to show your strengths. Just flesh it out more and make it more clear.
I see your point on the beginning, I was playing with that to begin with, but for some reason I really like it. I may cut it. Yes, I'm working on the second paragraph. I'm good with the limit, but I have a few more things to add. Thanks! :)
Glad to see a fellow debater, although a slightly different format.
Debate has got to be one of the greatest decisions of my life. What format did you do?
JC7
acearchie
Oct 30, 2009, 08:12 PM
It may be different from the UK personal statement but in mine I have explained the subjects I take and how they relate to the course I want to do.
I have also stated extra-curricular activities that I do (separating you from ever other joe bloggs) and how they relate to the course (if they do)
However I am unfamiliar with the college application so I don't know if it's the same.
I enjoyed reading it though and congratulate you on overcoming your speech impediment!
janitorC7
Oct 30, 2009, 08:15 PM
It may be different from the UK personal statement but in mine I have explained the subjects I take and how they relate to the course I want to do.
I have also stated extra-curricular activities that I do (separating you from ever other joe bloggs) and how they relate to the course (if they do)
However I am unfamiliar with the college application so I don't know if it's the same.
I enjoyed reading it though and congratulate you on overcoming your speech impediment!
The system is a little different. We have a few different essays. This one has to answer a question about an adversity that we have overcome.
thanks :)
acearchie
Oct 30, 2009, 08:18 PM
The system is a little different. We have a few different essays. This one has to answer a question about an adversity that we have overcome.
thanks :)
Ah Ok, In that case it looks really good to me!
janitorC7
Oct 30, 2009, 08:44 PM
Ah Ok, In that case it looks really good to me!
Thanks!
AngryApple
Oct 30, 2009, 10:39 PM
That's really good, in my opinion. I think the opening was nice. You may want to experiement with writing an "image" as the opening. I've always been taught that colleges really look at how well one can write them.
What's Cambell Hall? You could add that it was a poor school to add some emotional appeal.
maria12
Oct 31, 2009, 07:40 AM
I think you need to improve your English, sorry...
Have a look at some free samples of good personal statements here: http://www.personal-statement.com/free-personal-statement-samples.php
Also they have good useful articles which you may find helpful:
http://www.personal-statement.com/useful-articles.php
Good Luck!
Maria
thatdarnfish
Oct 31, 2009, 08:59 AM
Looks good.
janitorC7
Oct 31, 2009, 09:14 AM
I think you need to improve your English, sorry...
Have a look at some free samples of good personal statements here: http://www.personal-statement.com/free-personal-statement-samples.php
Also they have good useful articles which you may find helpful:
http://www.personal-statement.com/useful-articles.php
Good Luck!
Maria
I agree, hence the first written line, prior to the essay. I wanted input on concept, remember? Grammar never comes out great when you first write something creatively. However, I wanted input on concept before I finished it up. Anyway, heres the latest. Still some sketchy grammar in the second and last paragraphs (for the sake of a more obvious disclaimer this time!).
JC7
Thanks
I'm not going to say my life has been wrought with hardships - it hasn’t. Truth be told, life has been pretty good to me. I'm your average white boy from a middle- class family attending a challenging college preparatory school in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de los Angeles de Porciuncula - The city of Angels - or Los Angeles, for short. But everybody has their battles and adversities. For me, it was speaking - not public speaking, necessarily, but, like, putting words together to, like, you know....... talk.
Starting in 2nd grade on some of my greatest thoughts were silenced though an inability to communicate. It was not that I didn't know the words that I wanted to say but that, when I tried to speak, I would get hung-up on the first sound of the first word I wanted to say. I was rendered to a 20 second stutter of 'ca..ca..aaaaa".
I spent the greater part of three years seeing speech therapists who tried to help me, to no avail.
By 6th grade I had all but given up and became a rather silenced kid, with a lot going on inside his head, but nobody seemed to know. I wanted to voice my opinions on books, friends and politics but, sadly, my tongue did not share a similar aspiration.
Once I started middle school an opportunity presented itself: Speech and Debate. Campbell Hall did not have a debate team. However, my best friends and I always enjoyed bickering back and forth about the latest news and political Issues. One day after a rather exciting history class my teacher told me how expressive my ideas were. I told her I enjoyed it, and she that I should be a debater. As nonchalant as this statement may have been, I don’t think she could have realized the can of worms she had just opened, and how much of her free time she’d just volunteered away.
"Ms. Hong, can we start a debate team?”
Needless to say, we did start a team, and were a founding member of one of the first middle school debate leagues in the United State: the MSPDP. Public speaking presented a new beginning in communication for me. Somehow, I felt more comfortable talking in front of a crowd of people who were there for the express purpose of listening to me than I did in one-on-one conversation. My first speech was the beginning of a long journey during which I have become an accomplished speaker –a feat three different speech therapists thought impossible.
I continued to debate in the parliamentary format throughout junior high school and was ranked as high as second in the league, but faced another problem at the commencement of high school: no debate team. So, we founded a team yet again. During high school I’ve competed in two formats: National Extemporaneous and Parliamentary. I’m proud to report that the stuttering elementary school kid is now State-ranked in Extemporaneous, Second- Place Speaker at the prestigious Pepperdine Invitational, Semi-Finalist at the Stanford tournament, Member with Special Distinction of the National Forensic League, Audition Finalist for Team USA, Campbell Hall Speaker of the Year, and the executive officer of our debate team, which continues to grow
My love of debate has inspired me to introduce and train other students to follow in our footsteps. Since leaving middle school, I have helped coach the junior high school team. This year I also train novices from Campbell Hall competing for the first time in High School, in the hope they can find the same feeling of accomplishment that I have. I guess it all goes to show that your greatest adversity can become your greatest asset.
janitorC7
Oct 31, 2009, 09:23 AM
That's really good, in my opinion. I think the opening was nice. You may want to experiement with writing an "image" as the opening. I've always been taught that colleges really look at how well one can write them.
What's Cambell Hall? You could add that it was a poor school to add some emotional appeal.
haha. I could, but most of the schools I'm applying to will be familiar with my school.... and its $28,000 a year price tag. Granted, I'm almost on a full academic scholarship but that could be just a little to much to explain :p
I think you need to improve your English, sorry...
Have a look at some free samples of good personal statements here: http://www.personal-statement.com/free-personal-statement-samples.php
Also they have good useful articles which you may find helpful:
http://www.personal-statement.com/useful-articles.php
Good Luck!
Maria
I'm going to assume that you work for that website. Aside from offering a service for something I am perfectly capable of doing it offered no helpful information.
Grammar generally corrected. You should work on understanding the particular use of different punctuation marks in your writing.
Thank you. Again, I posted it as a work in progress, but I actually like and may use some of your cuts. Thanks!
janitorC7
Oct 31, 2009, 09:45 AM
And one last draft before I leave for a few hours. Actually, I'm off to judge a debate.
I'm not going to say my life has been wrought with hardships - it hasn’t. Truth be told, life has been pretty good to me. I'm your average white boy from a middle- class family attending a challenging college preparatory school in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de los Angeles de Porciuncula - The city of Angels - or Los Angeles, for short. But everybody has their battles and adversities. For me, it was speaking - not public speaking, necessarily, but, like, putting words together to, like, you know....... talk.
Starting in 2nd grade some of my greatest thoughts remained unexpressed though an inability to communicate. It was not that I didn't know the words that i wanted to say, but that when I tried to speak, I would get hung up on the first sound of the first word I wanted to say, rendering me speechless for 20 seconds or more as I stuttered.
I spent the greater part of three years seeing speech therapists who tried to help me, to no avail.
By 6th grade I had all but given up. I became a rather silenced kid. A lot was going on inside my head, but no one else seemed to know this. I wanted to voice my opinions on books, friends and politics but, sadly, my tongue did not share a similar aspiration.
Once I started middle school an opportunity presented itself: Speech and Debate. Campbell Hall did not have a debate team. However, my best friends and I always enjoyed bickering back and forth about the latest news and political Issues. One day after a stimulating history class my teacher told me how expressive my ideas were. When I told her I enjoyed arguing my opinions, she jokingly said I should be a debater. As nonchalant as this statement may have been, I don’t think she could have realized the can of worms she had just opened, and how much of her free time she’d just volunteered away.
"Ms. Hong, can we start a debate team?”
Needless to say, we started a team, and were a founding member of one of the first middle school debate leagues in the United States: the MSPDP.
Public speaking presented a new understanding of communication for me. Somehow, I felt more comfortable talking in front of a crowd of people who were there for the sole purpose of listening to me than I did in one-on-one conversation. My first speech –on violent video games- was the beginning of a long journey during which I became an accomplished speaker, a feat that three different speech therapists thought impossible.
I continued to debate in the parliamentary format throughout junior high school and was ranked as high as second in the league. But faced another problem at the commencement of high school: no debate team. So I founded a high school team as well. During these years I’ve competed in two formats: National Extemporaneous and Parliamentary. I’m proud to report that this stuttering elementary school kid is now State-ranked in Extemporaneous, Second- Place Speaker at the prestigious Pepperdine Invitational, Semi-Finalist at the Stanford tournament, Member with Special Distinction of the National Forensic League, Audition Finalist for Team USA, Campbell Hall Speaker of the Year, and the executive officer of our debate team, which continues to grow
My love of debate has inspired me to train others to follow in my footsteps. Since leaving middle school, I have coached the Junior High Team. I now also train novices from Campbell Hall competing for the first time in High School, in the hopes that they can find the same joy in speaking that I have. Thanks to debating, the old adage, "your greatest adversity can become your greatest asset" has made itself crystal clear.
thatdarnfish
Oct 31, 2009, 10:08 AM
No prob. Happy to help. This draft looks much better. You are missing an "I" in the second to last paragraph. Congrats on getting over the stuttering.
janitorC7
Oct 31, 2009, 10:14 AM
No prob. Happy to help. This draft looks much better. You are missing an "I" in the second to last paragraph. Congrats on getting over the stuttering.
Thanks!
You have really been quite helpful. I feel weird asking this but, do you think you can remove your earlier post (with your edits). I have them saved on my computer, but rumor has it that colleges like goggling these things (I'll be removing mine as well). Thanks in advance
JC7
goodtimes5
Oct 31, 2009, 11:09 AM
rumor has it that colleges like goggling these things (I'll be removing mine as well). Thanks in advance
Don't you have teachers at school that can help you proofread?
davidjearly
Oct 31, 2009, 11:14 AM
I can't say what things are like when applying to American colleges, but here in the UK that just would not cut it for a University application.
The language needs to be more formal in my opinion. You aren't communicating with your peers, but to academics. As such, I would try to be more professional in my wording.
That said, I like the whole topic of the essay.
maria12
Oct 31, 2009, 11:23 AM
I would still suggest you to get it professionally proofread - it would make a difference
thatdarnfish
Oct 31, 2009, 11:27 AM
Thanks!
You have really been quite helpful. I feel weird asking this but, do you think you can remove your earlier post (with your edits). I have them saved on my computer, but rumor has it that colleges like goggling these things (I'll be removing mine as well). Thanks in advance
JC7
Done.
AngryApple
Oct 31, 2009, 03:17 PM
Thanks!
You have really been quite helpful. I feel weird asking this but, do you think you can remove your earlier post (with your edits). I have them saved on my computer, but rumor has it that colleges like goggling these things (I'll be removing mine as well). Thanks in advance
JC7
:eek: oh...no.... I hope they don't.
leomac08
Oct 31, 2009, 06:58 PM
You live in north hollywood?????? most likely you will apply to UCLA or USC?
well i got denied from UCLA but i got wait listed for USC....
good college resume thing you got going.......
if I was you......I would beef up your academic and secondary school activities.......and outside school activites
did you participate in church groups, local groups, youth groups, little league, music groups? leader of a group......such as tresuarer, vice-president?
the smallest things are also good.....
colleges look a lot about what you are doing right now!!!!!???:eek:
they really don't care about what you did in the 6th grade... as much as i love the story of how u created a debate team in middle school.....
did you do it in high school?
as much as I like the story.....i did a similar thing in my college applications.....and i guess some colleges didn't find it interesting......
I even got my college application read by an official USC admissions staff and they loved it somehow out of surprised...
so try to shoot for things you are doing now!
I WISH U ALL THE BEST:)
janitorC7
Oct 31, 2009, 08:48 PM
You live in north hollywood?????? most likely you will apply to UCLA or USC?
well i got denied from UCLA but i got wait listed for USC....
good college resume thing you got going.......
if I was you......I would beef up your academic and secondary school activities.......and outside school activites
did you participate in church groups, local groups, youth groups, little league, music groups? leader of a group......such as tresuarer, vice-president?
the smallest things are also good.....
colleges look a lot about what you are doing right now!!!!!???:eek:
they really don't care about what you did in the 6th grade... as much as i love the story of how u created a debate team in middle school.....
did you do it in high school?
as much as I like the story.....i did a similar thing in my college applications.....and i guess some colleges didn't find it interesting......
I even got my college application read by an official USC admissions staff and they loved it somehow out of surprised...
so try to shoot for things you are doing now!
I WISH U ALL THE BEST:)
UCLA is on there, but this one is not in my UC app. Pepperdine and Chapmen is are the schools that this is really geared at (Fordham as well).
This is just part. It includes a resume that lists plenty: Team Manager for the National Kidney Foundation. 5000 hours worth of Community Service. Team USA Alternate. A few committees. College Classes. A few jobs.
It's not something that I'm all that worried about.
I can't say what things are like when applying to American colleges, but here in the UK that just would not cut it for a University application.
The language needs to be more formal in my opinion. You aren't communicating with your peers, but to academics. As such, I would try to be more professional in my wording.
Yes, the essay included my work in High School (at the end). State Ranking, Team Captain, Started another team in high school. all the good stuff.
That said, I like the whole topic of the essay.
It's an art far more than a science. My application to euro schools is very different. American Schools seem to like a more informal essay. Well, that's not completely correct, it depends on the school. This is going to 4 of my schools which like a more personal and less formal approach. I have a different one which was finished months ago for others (I was originally going to use that essay for all, but at the advice of my Councilor wrote a less formal one).
Don't you have teachers at school that can help you proofread?
Yes, again, thats not the point...
iPenguin
Oct 31, 2009, 10:01 PM
I would defiantly rewrite the first paragraph. Possibly tweak the second. The first paragraph is written as if you're trying to speak and impress them with the name of the City of Los Angeles. I would try starting out with a made up scene of you trying to communicate in second grade and then transition into the rest of your essay.
For example:
My mind raced with thought on {topic here} who would win the World Series. All around the shouts of "Yankees!" filled the air, but I knew that the Dodgers would win. I raised my hand and tried to speak. All that came was a stutter of "ca..ca..aaaaa." This was a normal day in second grade. Whenever I tried to speak all I could get out for the world to hear was a dull sound of stuttering - leaving my thoughts trapped inside of me.
Throughout elementary school I went through three years of speech therapy, to no avail. I became the quiet one, left out of the simplest conversations. It wasn't until Mrs. Hong's seventh grade history class that my true talents shined. We were debating {whatever} what we should have done in response to the terrorist attacks of September 11th. My voice rang with my thoughts - I was deep in my element. After class........
--
That's just my thoughts. It's not great, but may give you an idea of another approach that you could take with the essay. Personally, I wouldn't overshadow my disability that I overcame with the fact that it isn't the biggest one in the world. The person reading your essay knows that kids with cancer or who had had a parent die have had it harder. They knew that going into your essay. What they want to know is what challenged you and how you overcame it. They want to see that you recognized that you had a problem and took steps to overcome the problem along the way. That is what makes you the person that you are today and has built your character into the way it is. You have been challenged and overcame the obstacles even when there wasn't an easy solution. After all, I am sure that you know that beginning a club in high school wasn't necessarily easy. But you did it and that's what they want to know.
eatbacon
Oct 31, 2009, 10:10 PM
Thanks for the essay. I didn't know what to write so I used yours. Applications submitted. I hope they don't think you plagiarized when you turn yours in.
janitorC7
Apr 6, 2010, 12:27 AM
Thanks for the essay. I didn't know what to write so I used yours. Applications submitted. I hope they don't think you plagiarized when you turn yours in.
Go for it; it did well by me.
Here is the final one that I submitted (at the bottom). Needless to say this is only one of around 25 essays that were written for apps (the best was to Stanford)
Results:
Deferred and then rejected at Stanford University (Not surprised)
Accepted at UC Berkeley
Accepted at UCSD
Accepted at Chapman University
Rejected from NYU in Abu Dhabi
Accepted at CU Boulder
Accepted at UC Merced (is anybody not?)
Accepted to University of the Pacific
Accepted to Fordham Honors College at Lincoln Center
Rejected from Pitzer (very surprised)
Rejected from UCLA (yet into cal; surprised at that; much rather would have gone to UCLA)
Wait list at Pepperdine
I'm between Chapman University and UC Berkeley, opinions?
Essay:
Each of us has special challenges; our own personal crosses to bear in life. For years mine seemed to be a tangled tongue. My words somehow became stuck just as I tried to speak them. I was a st st stut stutterer.
From second grade on, my best thoughts remained unexpressed. It was not that I didn't know the words that I wanted to say, but when I tried to speak I would get hung up on the first sound of the first word, rendering me speechless for 20 seconds or more as I stuttered.
I spent the better part of three years seeing speech therapists who tried to help me.
I had all but given up. I had become “a child of silence”. A lot was going on inside my head, but no one else seemed to know this. I wanted to voice my opinions on books, friends and politics but regrettably my tongue did not share a similar aspiration.
Once I started middle school an opportunity presented itself: Speech and Debate. Campbell Hall did not have a debate team. However, my best friends and I always enjoyed arguing back and forth about the latest news and political Issues. One day after a stimulating history class my teacher told me how expressive my ideas were. When I told her I enjoyed arguing my opinions, she jokingly said I should be a debater. As nonchalant as this statement might have been, I don’t think she could have realized the Pandora’s box she had just opened nor how much of her free time she’d just volunteered away. “Ms. Hong” I eagerly responded “Can we start a debate team?”
We started a team and were a founding member of one of the first middle school debate leagues in the United States, the Middle School Public Debate Program sponsored by Claremont McKenna College.
Public speaking presented a new understanding of communication for me. Somehow, I felt more comfortable talking in front of a crowd of people who were there for the sole purpose of listening to me than I did in one-on-one conversation. My first speech on violent video games was the beginning of a long journey to becoming an accomplished speaker, a feat that three different respected speech therapists thought impossible.
I continued to debate in the parliamentary format throughout junior high school and was unbelievably ranked as high as second in the League, but then faced another problem at the commencement of high school: no debate team. So, with help, I founded a high school team as well. During these years I’ve delighted in two formats: National Extemporaneous and Parliamentary. So now this stuttering elementary school kid is State-ranked in Extemporaneous, Second- Place Speaker at the prestigious Pepperdine Invitational, Semi-Finalist at the Stanford University tournament, Member with Special Distinction of the National Forensic League, Audition Finalist for Team USA, Campbell Hall “Speaker of the Year” and the Executive Officer of our debate team, which continues to grow.
My love of debate has inspired me to train others to follow in our footsteps. Since leaving Middle School, I have coached the Junior High Team. I now also train novices from Campbell Hall competing for the first time in High School in the hopes that they can find the same joy in speaking that I have.
It is still hard for me to believe that the young kid that could barley spit the words out would clearly hear these magic words: “And this year’s Speaker of the Year Award goes to Cooper Krings.” That ancient philosopher was right when he said, “your greatest adversities can become your greatest asset.”
And, oh yes; about my stuttering problem: It’s quite well controlled now. Maybe I just outgrew it. Or perhaps the pressure of competition and stress of debating in front of judges and audiences had something to do with it. I still stammer once in a while, but now I seem to be the only one who notices. Sometimes even I don’t.
thegoldenmackid
Apr 7, 2010, 01:45 AM
Factor in the financial. I applied to Chapman because my counselor was not happy with me only applying to two schools I had no business applying to with my GPA. My only reason: they have a great genocide program. If I were in your shoes, I'd take Berkley. 50% for the school, 50% for the food.
Visit both. Talk to students. That's the best advice I have.
rhsgolfer33
Apr 7, 2010, 02:07 AM
I'd take Berkley. 50% for the school, 50% for the food.
Oh god really? I've heard nothing but bad things about eating at Berkeley, especially on campus, if you're not a vegetarian.
Personally, I'd probably go to Pepperdine or even UCSD, but I'm a sucker for the locations. :D
Chapman also have a nice campus, but the downer is that its in Orange. Orange can't compare to the Bay Area for things to do, as well as public transportation.
Sorry if I missed this, but what are you planning on majoring in?
63dot
Apr 7, 2010, 02:20 AM
Congrats to the OP on the compelling life story and all the schools that said yes.
Chapman is a good school and of course, Cal is good, too. If you plan to leave the state after graduation, Cal is the better bet since it's more well known. But if you want to do anything around the film industry, then Chapman is a good choice.
janitorC7
Oct 11, 2010, 11:56 PM
Sorry to resurrect this old thread...
but; I am very happy to call myself a California Golden Bear.
The food here sucks; I mean REALLY sucks; at least on campus...
The bay area is all right but I am an LA native and kinda miss it, I would not have minded Orange County all that much
To answer your other question: I am a triple major at the moment (wont stay that way) in Architecture, Geography, and Urban Studies (City Planning)...
CalBoy
Oct 12, 2010, 12:34 AM
The food here sucks; I mean REALLY sucks; at least on campus...
From what I've learned, most campus food is terrible.
Overall there are a few places I still go back to the Berkeley area for (namely Zachary's), but if you want good food hop onto BART and go to SF.
I ended up not having lunch many days of the week because I just didn't have the time to go far enough for better food.
There is a Trader Joe's near the Rockridge BART station these days (take the 51 from campus), so I'd do some shopping there if I was in your shoes (again).
The bay area is all right but I am an LA native and kinda miss it, I would not have minded Orange County all that much
What makes you feel homesick? If it's just being a new place far from your "home," don't worry, you'll get over that. Otherwise, try to figure out what it is and maybe you can bring a little bit of "home" back with you the next time you visit your parents. :)
citizenzen
Oct 12, 2010, 12:41 AM
Starting in 2nd grade some of my greatest thoughts remained unexpressed though an inability to communicate.
You had "great thoughts" in the second grade?
Sounds like somebody thinks quite highly of himself. :rolleyes:
Me, I just liked the puppets.
Anyway... congrats on being a golden bear. :D
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