It's 2004, where's the new music?

[CubaTBird]

It's 2004 and im still hearing the same stuff that coulda' come out 10-12 years ago. You don't want to get me started on how many places I have heard that stupid usher song "yeah". I have heard it at walmart, at the airport, in an elevator (looks as if kenny g got pwned for elevator rights, lol) and a bunch of other places. I mean, we still got rap and this so called alt. rock thats been said and done enough already. By the mid 80's disco was said and done for. How come now where still exposed to this rap and alt. rock that im simply tired of already? Of course their are niche generes.... Like "smooth jazz" but those barely get any attention or airplay. What do you all think? :confused: :o

[LeeTom]

Have you heard the Talkie Walkie album by Air? Pretty awesome, and I think very avante garde. Also, check out the Misery is a Butterfly album by Blonde Redhead. And Sonic Youth's newest, Sonic Nurse. And Franz Ferdinand's self titled. And the Cat Power - Free album (2003, I think).

plus...
-David Bowie's new one is pretty good
-Have you heard of Anna Oxygen? electro-clashey pop
-How about Deerhoof? the first cut off their Milkman album is intense! they are weird but cool
-Electralane put out a great album
-I've heard a lot of talk about a band called High on Fire
-The Locust are definitely different than most stuff you've probably heard. They ROCK!
-The Make Up, although from the 90s, are ahead of their time, IMO.
-If you want to go back in time and listen to something CRAZY, check out Neil Young's electronic album, called Trans. One of my favorites.


Anyways, I know what you mean. I hated all new music, until I started digging like crazy in the last year or so, and I've found a lot of new stuff to be excited about. There really are a lot of people doing something new out there... You just won't find it on MTV, the radio, or in your chain music store.

Lee Tom

[CubaTBird]

It's kind of interesting to see how music has evolved over years past. In the late 90's their was a huge influx of latin mania. That being ricky martin, enrique, christina aguilera, cristian castro, marc anthony, shakira just to name a few. Today, it seems the majority of music is somewhere between what is "mainstream" and "niche-what-you-like-music."

[Chip NoVaMac]

I understand where you are coming from. I look to Queen, Billy Joel, Beck's War of the Wolds; and wonder why we don't have albums that take advantage of the the tech.

[Whigga Spitta]

I just picked up a CD the other day "One A.M." by Diverse. It's a real good hip-hop album, although I bought because I had heard the instrumental versions. Diverse, a Chicago rapper, rhymes on top of beats from RJD2 and other creative producers. I wish it was on iTMS music store so you could hear, but it is definitely worth checking out anyways.

(although it might be from 2003, not 2004...but if you haven't heard it, it's new to you, right??)

[LethalWolfe]

It's 2004 and im still hearing the same stuff that coulda' come out 10-12 years ago. You don't want to get me started on how many places I have heard that stupid usher song "yeah". I have heard it at walmart, at the airport, in an elevator (looks as if kenny g got pwned for elevator rights, lol) and a bunch of other places. I mean, we still got rap and this so called alt. rock thats been said and done enough already. By the mid 80's disco was said and done for. How come now where still exposed to this rap and alt. rock that im simply tired of already? Of course their are niche generes.... Like "smooth jazz" but those barely get any attention or airplay. What do you all think? :confused: :o


I don't think rap is going to disappear. That's like saying rock 'n roll is going to disappear. Now there maybe trends in rap that rise and fall, just like in rock, but rap, as a genre as a whole, isn't going anywhere. I think the trends in mainstream rock have changed in the past 10-12 years. mid-90's "grunge" was over saturated and on it's way out. "nu-metal" or "rap-metal" bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, and Kid Rock (to name the big names) were on the rise. Nu-metal got over saturated and started fading (thank god) a couple of years ago. What I'm kinda dubbing as Neo-60's rock seems to the current mainstream rock flavor. Bands like The Hives, The Vines, The White Stripes etc.,.

Disco is gone, but dance music (which is what disco was) is still around. Disco died because it was tied to a very specific club life that died.


Lethal

[CubaTBird]

With the advent of smooth jazz, a lot of jazz aficionados claim that smooth jazz isin't "real jazz". Why is this? I mean, of course if you look at Dave Koz/Kenny G you can tell they are purely adult contemporary artists. But other artists like David Benoit, Dan Siegal, and even Boney James don't get enough credit for what they do. Interestingly enough, a lot of them incorporate a lot of modern R & B rythms into their music style which I feel is more of a evolution of jazz than simply "lured" jazz. :o

[MacFan26]

With the advent of smooth jazz, a lot of jazz aficionados claim that smooth jazz isin't "real jazz". Why is this?

I think it's mostly because smooth jazz really is just a different genre than "real jazz." Kenny G and Miles Davis don't fall under the same genre. Real jazz is stuff like Mike Vax, Gordon Goodwin, Count Basie, etc. It's a lot more musically technical than something you'd hear on a smooth jazz radio station which is more like "elevator music." Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just different than big band type jazz.

[diddy]

If you want REALLY new music, check out places like purevolume.com and the music listings on myspace.com. (there are so many more).

It is a mix of establised artists and kids in their bedrooms and garages. Some of these kids make better music than anything on the radio.

Purevolume is really good. But for example, heres my music page on myspace.

http://www.myspace.com/dylankenney

From the other POV, these are good places to put up your Garageband songs where people will actually listen to them.

Thats where IVE found the new music in 2004.
The record stores have let me down.

I agree with Cuba, it seems like Ive heard it all before, and I wasnt too impressed the first time.

[monsquaz]

There's been lots of great releases so far this year. Maybe you're not looking closely enough?

I've got these so far:

Fantômas - Delirium Cordia
Creepy ambience. The case says 2003, but it had been delayed constantly until January. So it's still a 2004 album.

Einstürzende Neubauten - Perpetuum Mobile
German deconstruction.
Fun Facts:
-Their singer, Blixa Bargeld, was the voice of The Mummy in the same-titled movie.
-I suppose many people know this, but Blixa is also Nick Cave's guitarist.

Motörhead - Inferno (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=15621581)
Another powerful release from the British rock/metal legendaries. Admittedly, I didn't like it as much as Hammered, but I've always found it difficult to be disappointed with releases from any band I've honestly liked.

Secret Chiefs 3 - Book of Horizons (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=7373128)
An incredible musical journey from the maestro Trey Spruance (the guitarist from Mr. Bungle), performed by himself and many other talented musicians.
I highly recommend you purchase a physical copy of this. It's got nifty artwork, and it'll help you understand the whole concept of the album. For it is not an ordinary one.

Brian Wilson - Gettin' In Over My Head (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=17067654)
Need I say more?

Reverend Horton Heat - Revival (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=15149541)
I'm relatively new to RHH (having only otherwise listened to Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em). Some people haven't liked this as much as their previous efforts, but I find it most satisfying.

Brian Wilson's reworking of Smile was great.

I can't believe I hadn't known Squarepusher's Ultravisitor came out this year. I must acquire it.

Johnny Cash's American V was supposed to come out two months ago, and then last month, but there's been no word since I first read about it. Google isn't telling me anything. What's going on here?

There may even be another Turbonegro album, if they can finish before the year is through.

Oh, and this might also be a good time to look for the music that you might have missed last year.
i.e.
Ween - quebec (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=5543325)
Turbonegro - Scandinavian Leather (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=3115019)
Wesley Willis - Greatest Hits Volume 3 (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=18870447)

[kerb]

-Electralane put out a great album



are you referring to the instrumental girl group?

if so that's pretty weird! i saw them support fugazi a few years ago in Manchester and ive still got the "I want to be the president" sticker on my wall.

[mike3k]

Check out Antibalas - they do a great blend of Jazz, Afrobeat, and Latin. I just bought their new album "Who is this America" from iTunes yesterday and have been listening to it continuously.

[Abstract]

Brian Wilson - Gettin' In Over My Head
Need I say more?



Yes, because that album is horrible. :p Well, not horrible, but not good. It was very very average....down the middle. I'm still dying to hear Smile, and Pet Sounds is great, but I really don't know why this album was so bad. I'm hoping that Smile will be better.

I, too, have been disappointed by some of the releases this year. I got the brand new Kings of Convenience album, and it wasn't nearly as good as Quiet Is The New Loud. That album is in my top 10 of all time....maybe top 5. The new one doesn't stack up well at all, although its not a bad album.

The Bad Plus released another album ("Give") this year as well. I like it about the same as These Are The Vistas, but I'm not as excited when hearing it. Its still a great album, and I would recommend it for anyone who hasn't heard their music before. Decent jazz trio.

You can probably hear their songs by going to their respective official websites.

Anyone get the new Muse album? Is it good? Does it soundlike Origin Of Symmetry at all?

[Blue Velvet]

Although not entirely new...

To me, one of the most original new musical forms of the last ten years is Drum & Bass, a purely London-originated sound -- a hybrid of techno & reggae/dancehall.

Check Goldie, Grooverider, Photek, LJT Bukem, Roni Size...

Some Latin flavours here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005YKB8/qid=1093632787/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-7037050-9979905?v=glance&s=music