Apple Announces Over 100,000 Apps Available on the App Store

[MacRumors]

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Apple today officially announced (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/11/04appstore.html) that more than 100,000 apps are now available from the App Store.

"The App Store, now with over 100,000 applications available, is clearly a major differentiator for millions of iPhone and iPod touch customers around the world,” said Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "The iPhone SDK created the first great platform for mobile applications and our customers are loving all of the amazing apps our developers are creating.”

"The App Store has forever changed the mobile gaming industry and continues to improve," said Travis Boatman, vice president of Worldwide Studios, EA Mobile. "With a global reach of over 50 million iPhone and iPod touch users, the App Store has allowed us to develop high quality EA games that have been a huge success with customers."

“With 10,000 downloads a day, worldwide customer response to our I Am T-Pain App has exceeded our wildest expectations,” said Jeff Smith, CEO of Smule. “The App Store has given us a unique opportunity to create and grow a very successful business, and we’re looking forward to an exciting future.”

An announcement was expected ever since App Shopper.com noted that over 100,000 applications had been approved (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/10/22/app-store-passes-100000-approved-applications/). Apple's previous official announcement of App Store application count occurred in late September, when the store surpassed two billion downloads with 85,000 available apps (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/28/apple-surpasses-2-billion-app-store-downloads/).

Article Link: Apple Announces Over 100,000 Apps Available on the App Store (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/11/04/apple-announces-over-100000-apps-available-on-the-app-store/)

[igazza]

how long til 1 million ?

[Prom1]

Oh yeah!

Glad Apple is moving so strong.

Big Thanks to the developers for making quality apps and adjusting pricing for economies of scale!

:apple: Rock on!

[Full of Win]

God, I would love to see some kind of rarefaction curve for the apps out there. Not sure about the metric to use, but it would be interesting.

[Rot'nApple]

Congratulations to Apple AND to the many, many developers. Looking forward to the next 100,000 apps!

[Goona]

Cue the app store is full of crap and fart app folks.

[talkingfuture]

I wonder how many it will peak at. Will they keep apps in the store for ever or will there be a point where older/less popular apps get deleted?

[sesnir]

I just wish there was an easier way to search through those 100,000 apps... if you're not a new release or featured then you get buried.

[D A]

“With 10,000 downloads a day, worldwide customer response to our I Am T-Pain App has exceeded our wildest expectations,”

That's like 30 grand a day :eek:

[hhaeschen]

Cue the app store is full of crap and fart app folks.

+1

I have trouble to find useful apps in the store.

Plus, lite versions should be counted as one app together with their full versions....

[*LTD*]

That's about 100,000 reasons you can't stop the iPhone's momentum.

[*LTD*]

+1

I have trouble to find useful apps in the store.

Plus, lite versions should be counted as one app together with their full versions....

"Top Grossing", "Top 25" in each category, "Top paid", "Top Free", etc.

Use the filters for each caegory.

[dwd3885]

It's funny that Apple bashes Microsoft for touting that Windows had thousands and thousands more apps than Apple's Mac OSX does when it's the quality that counts. Yet, when the App Store has over 100,000 apps and most of those are crap as well, they spin it in their favor :D

[Kilamite]

"With a global reach of over 50 million iPhone and iPod touch users, the App Store has allowed us to develop high quality EA games that have been a huge success with customers."

High quality..?!

[Goona]

It's funny that Apple bashes Microsoft for touting that Windows had thousands and thousands more apps than Apple's Mac OSX does when it's the quality that counts. Yet, when the App Store has over 100,000 apps and most of those are crap as well, they spin it in their favor :D

Apple bashed Microsoft for having more apps? When?

[Prom1]

I wonder how many it will peak at. Will they keep apps in the store for ever or will there be a point where older/less popular apps get deleted?

I have a feeling that a MAJOR change in the OS/Firmware and hardware will keep some compatibility ... but older 2.0/2.2 apps will be pulled. With notification to those developers to get 3.0/3.1 compatible apps ready else loosing their current apps - and customers.

This could occur for the 4th generation iPhone and could begin this summer.

Time for Apple to bring up THEIR game:
- AddressBook improvements: sync with "the social" with user fine control.
- PIM improvements.
- more RAM 1GB; on less OR using of free storage space to improve RAM on the fly ;)
- bring the core OS to support SMP and use the Cortex A9 based cpu's this summer.
- allow for limited mult-processing in a way that only Apple could make it elegant.
- but MOST IMPORTANTLY increase - significantly - battery life by increasing battery size: use that MBP battery technology here.

PS My battery life on my 3GS with my provider is no better, but hardly worse than my previous cellphone battery kings: Ericsson T-39m, Nokia E71, SE W810 (only 1 is a smartphone: and BB's never came close! yes I used POP3 emails on ALL/E71 push email).

[whooleytoo]

That's a lot of new developers out there with Obj-C/Cocoa experience.

I wonder at what point Apple is going to try and nudge them towards Mac development as well. I still think a Mac App Store would revitalise the Mac market.

[BongoBanger]

God, I would love to see some kind of rarefaction curve for the apps out there. Not sure about the metric to use, but it would be interesting.

I'd like to see a graph of each application versus downloads over the last three months split by paid vs free. 100,000 is great but how many are being used?

High quality..?!

Oh yes. Some of them are very good indeed.

[noverflow]

Wonder how long it will take to start slowing down.

At some point the market will be so saturated, it will be hard to get in, or at least be noticed.

Or... I wonder when every name will be taken.

[lamadude]

Thousands of those are out-of-copyright books sold as a standalone app. I don't want to sound too negative 100,000 apps is pretty meaningless. Right now I have about 10 apps that "survive" on my iphone, all the others are deleted after a few days.

[rwilliams]

Cue the app store is full of crap and fart app folks.

If it's true, it's true. I've found some great apps and paid for the quality ones that weren't free, but there are a lot of useless and terrible apps in that store.

[dwd3885]

Apple bashed Microsoft for having more apps? When?

Many times in the 1990s. It was about OSX quality of apps vs Windows quantity. I just find it ironic that they are doing just the opposite now and you don't hear anything about the number of apps on Windows vs OSX anymore.

Isn't it ironic?

[Bubba Satori]

Wonder how long it will take to start slowing down.

At some point the market will be so saturated, it will be hard to get in, or at least be noticed.

Or... I wonder when every name will be taken.

When the novelty wears off and realization sets in that most of it is, well, novelty and little else. Probably this time next year.

[branjosef]

And yet I only own 4 of them. Most I think are not worth it as they just gimmicky or useless, but that's my opinion, I 'm sure everyone needs a good fart app or fake call to get out of a date or meeting. Oh cant forget about the level app for when you are building a house and your iphone was all you brought. Ha!

Keep up the good work apple. Look forward to the itablet so I can read books and nothing else.

[QCassidy352]

If it's true, it's true. I've found some great apps and paid for the quality ones that weren't free, but there are a lot of useless and terrible apps in that store.

First, what's crap to you is someone else's favorite app. Second, the number of good apps matters far more than the percentage of good apps. I have maybe a dozen 3rd party apps that are so good as to be truly indispensable (to me). But in order for all of us to find our dozen indispensable apps, there have to be a lot of devs putting a lot of things out there.

[StuBeck]

"Top Grossing", "Top 25" in each category, "Top paid", "Top Free", etc.

Use the filters for each caegory.

Doesn't really work when you have 30k programs in a category to filter by the top 25 in them. They should find a better way to categorize it, but if you look at Amazon, they have basically no categorization and it works fine.

[pimentoLoaf]

Make one simple thing and charge $0.99. Within a few a hours, 100,000 people download it. You just made $99,000.

There should be more than just 100,000 apps making everyone rich, don't you thinK?

[*LTD*]

When the novelty wears off and realization sets in that most of it is, well, novelty and little else. Probably this time next year.

When the novelty wears off and realization sets in that most of it is, well, novelty and little else. Probably this time next year.
- 2007

When the novelty wears off and realization sets in that most of it is, well, novelty and little else. Probably this time next year.
- 2008

When the novelty wears off and realization sets in that most of it is, well, novelty and little else. Probably this time next year.
- 2009

Maybe *this* time you'll be right?

[BongoBanger]

When the novelty wears off and realization sets in that most of it is, well, novelty and little else. Probably this time next year.
- 2007

The App store was open in 2007?

I think there's a lot of really, really good aps available but 100K means nothing without a breakdown of what's currently - in the last three months - been downloaded. That is, how many active apps are being shifted and how many of them are paid for or free.

I still think the app store is by far the best distribution method out there though.

[rwilliams]

First, what's crap to you is someone else's favorite app. Second, the number of good apps matters far more than the percentage of good apps. I have maybe a dozen 3rd party apps that are so good as to be truly indispensable (to me). But in order for all of us to find our dozen indispensable apps, there have to be a lot of devs putting a lot of things out there.

True, but looking at some of the really good apps available via Cydia that were rejected by Apple makes you wonder how the hell they allowed so many utterly useless apps into the store. I get your point, but we all know that there is an enormous gap in quality between the really good apps and 95% of the App Store.

[*LTD*]

Doesn't really work when you have 30k programs in a category to filter by the top 25 in them. They should find a better way to categorize it, but if you look at Amazon, they have basically no categorization and it works fine.

How doesn't it work??? You see the top apps, the most popular. And you can increase the filter number to the top 50. And you can keep cycling down the list of TOp apps: 25 more, 25 more, 25 more, 25 more, etc. I think it's 25 x 4. Whenever an app appears in that list (and the higher it is), that's your first clue that it's worth looking into. What, you want to look at all 30,000 of them?? :confused:

You can also do keyword searches, browse apps on iTunes, etc. Lots of ways to get informed.

[*LTD*]

The App store was open in 2007?

The iPhone. I take Bubba's comments to mean the iPhone. The iPhone is an integral part of the App Store. ;)

[ghostface147]

100,000 apps, 85% garbage. Still impressive.

[Shodan]

As usual we have the wanna-be Mac users who think Apple is the worst thing since sliced bread - but they still use a Mac and they lurk around these forums bashing away.

I'm counting 95 Apps so far on my iPhone and I love it.

100,000 Apps means success, suck it down.

[Goona]

100,000 apps, 85% garbage. Still impressive.

15 000 good apps is more than the other app stores out there.

[knightlie]

Many times in the 1990s. It was about OSX quality of apps vs Windows quantity. I just find it ironic that they are doing just the opposite now and you don't hear anything about the number of apps on Windows vs OSX anymore.

Isn't it ironic?

Yeah, Apple should really rehash their ads from the 1990's, because that's totally relevant to the 2010's. :rolleyes:

[dwd3885]

15 000 good apps is more than the other app stores out there.

It's more like 99.5% garbage. Really, is there 15,000 quality apps? Show me them please. Because I've only seen a couple hundred.

Yeah, Apple should really rehash their ads from the 1990's, because that's totally relevant to the 2010's. :rolleyes:

clearly you don't understand my point.

[Goona]

It's more like 99.5% garbage. Really, is there 15,000 quality apps? Show me them please. Because I've only seen a couple hundred.

So if 99 percent are garbage, its better than the other app stores out there.

[rwilliams]

100,000 Apps means success, suck it down.

The sheer number of apps is not a good indicator of "success" if Apple is able to let in as many as they want, and most people agree that the vast majority of them are terrible. A better measure would be the sales figures for the most successful app developers who release paid apps, or total downloads for the most popular free apps.

[*LTD*]

clearly you don't understand my point.

Your point isn't applicable.

Right now, the indicator of mobile platform success is the robustness of app stores. It's all about quantity now. Only over the past two years did such a thing as an "app store" emerge with any kind of public notice. Apple seems to have perfected it (relatively), and not only does the competition have far fewer apps, for many of them their app store paradigm isn't implemented nearly as well as Apple's.

Apple is bragging about app quantity because at present app quantity is a key selling point. It's an indicator of the robustness of your monile platform, whereas only a couple of years ago there was no such thing. There was barely such a thing as a "mobile platform" to begin with.

As the competiton gets their stores on track the focus will eventually shift to other aspects and features. Right now, Apple is milking the App Store feature because consumers have decided the number of apps you have on offer is a big deal. The number of "useful" apps (wow, what a subjective description) vs. "garbage" apps is beside the point. All app stores (for those that have them) will have useful and not so useful apps. The point is that at present, quantity matters.

[dwd3885]

So if 99 percent are garbage, its better than the other app stores out there.

yep, I definitely agree. Didn't say it wasn't better. The app store is the only reason why I have an iPhone.

Your point isn't applicable.

Right now, the indicator of mobile platform success is the robustness of app stores. It's all about quantity now. Only over the past two years did such a thing as an "app store" emerge with any kind of public notice. Apple seems to have perfected it (relatively), and not only does the competition have far fewer apps, for many of them their app store paradigm isn't implemented nearly as well as Apple's.

Apple is bragging about app quantity because at present app quantity is a key selling point. It's an indicator of the robustness of your monile platform, whereas only a couple of years ago there was no such thing. There was barely such a thing as a "mobile platform" to begin with.

As the competiton gets their stores on track the focus will eventually shift to other aspects and features.

It is very much applicable. Much like Windows vs OSX arguments back in the day, the amount of apps favored Windows, while many Mac people claimed who cares about the amount, but it's the quality. The only point in my post was that it's funny and ironic how Apple likes to have it both ways here.

[rwilliams]

Your point isn't applicable.

Right now, the indicator of mobile platform success is the robustness of app stores. It's all about quantity now. Only over the past two years did such a thing as an "app store" emerge with any kind of public notice. Apple seems to have perfected it (relatively), and not only does the competition have far fewer apps, for many of them their app store paradigm isn't implemented nearly as well as Apple's.

Apple is bragging about app quantity because at present app quantity is a key selling point. It's an indicator of the robustness of your monile platform, whereas only a couple of years ago there was no such thing. There was barely such a thing as a "mobile platform" to begin with.

As the competiton gets their stores on track the focus will eventually shift to other aspects and features. Right now, Apple is milking the App Store feature because consumers have decided the number of apps you have on offer is a big deal.

You make good points here. While I don't agree about quantity being all that important, I can certainly see how it is to a lot of people.

[stagi]

Wow that is crazy, I hope as time goes on the pace slows a bit and quality goes up (or just quality goes up with still a good pace that would be fine). =

[whooleytoo]

It is very much applicable. Much like Windows vs OSX arguments back in the day, the amount of apps favored Windows, while many Mac people claimed who cares about the amount, but it's the quality. The only point in my post was that it's funny and ironic how Apple likes to have it both ways here.

Funny and ironic, yes. Surprising, no.

Apple will always brag about their offerings and knock the opposition, regardless of reality. If you want realistic analysis, ask someone who isn't trying to sell you anything.

[skate71290]

Cue the app store is full of crap and fart app folks.

since everyone is praising the App Store i didn't want to say anything.. looks like you beat me too it.. "we have 100,000 apps... 99,000 of these apps are **** and a waste of time" :D

[ChazUK]

Congratulations Apple and thankyou for shaking up the smartphone industry the way you have.

Without the iPhone + App store we would have still been stuck in the dark ages and I doubt that we'd have the awesome competition that has and will develop to compete. :cool:

I love Android + the Android marketplace but it they wouldn't exist as they are without the iPhone IMO.

[BongoBanger]

Right now, the indicator of mobile platform success is the robustness of app stores.

Actually it's unit sales. Always has been, always will be.

[HLdan]

It's funny that Apple bashes Microsoft for touting that Windows had thousands and thousands more apps than Apple's Mac OSX does when it's the quality that counts. Yet, when the App Store has over 100,000 apps and most of those are crap as well, they spin it in their favor :D

I just find posts like this ridiculous on a Mac forum. Makes you seriously wonder where the loyalty is. It also makes you wonder who's a troll? :rolleyes:

That being said, I certainly would like to see some publication where Apple would bash MS for having more apps for Windows. Is it MS's fault that developers make a lot of apps for Windows? How in hell can Apple bash MS for that. Show proof of such statements please. Also, I just love when some of you say that MOST of the apps in the App Store are crap. You have no idea how many are crap and how many are useful. Did you actually view every one of the 100k apps? NO.

[Compile 'em all]

10,000 a day?

Damn, I wish my app got 0.0001% of that :(

[ChazUK]

I just find posts like this ridiculous on a Mac forum. Makes you seriously wonder where the loyalty is. It also makes you wonder who's a troll? :rolleyes:

I find posts like this ridiculous. As some of us that post here own some kind of Apple hardware without 100% brand loyalty you should expect some scrutiny.

Are you saying that anyone that posts here shouldn't ever be negative about Apple?

EDIT - And before you simply label me a troll, see my positive post about this news link (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8759216&postcount=49)

[lamadude]

I just find posts like this ridiculous on a Mac forum. Makes you seriously wonder where the loyalty is.

Why do you need "loyalty" on a mac forum? I like macrumors but I absolutely hate the fact that you need to defend yourself or are seen as a traitor whenever you say anything negative about apple.

[silentnite]

That's really good news. Now, If they could just sort the good apps from the bad that would be even better news. :D

[vettori]

Now if only there was a way to let my apps be noticed in the app store...

[*LTD*]

Actually it's unit sales. Always has been, always will be.

Obviously.

[HLdan]

I find posts like this ridiculous. As some of us that post here own some kind of Apple hardware without 100% brand loyalty you should expect some scrutiny.

Are you saying that anyone that posts here shouldn't ever be negative about Apple?

EDIT - And before you simply label me a troll, see my positive post about this news link (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8759216&postcount=49)

Why do you need "loyalty" on a mac forum? I like macrumors but I absolutely hate the fact that you need to defend yourself or are seen as a traitor whenever you say anything negative about apple.

Neither one of you even understood my post. I have no issues with people complaining about Apple or saying something negative, if I did I certainly wouldn't have registered on this forum since this place is the king of Apple bashing.

My issue is when posters come on a Mac forum and say things like "ONE UP FOR MS, SCREW APPLE". At that point why even come to a Mac/Apple forum at all? Seems like more hatred for Apple and hopes for Apple to fail.

[WhySoSerious]

Christ ALMIGHTY! Almost all those apps are CRAP. Geez, get over yourself Apple.....

[Mattie Num Nums]

That's about 100,000 reasons you can't stop the iPhone's momentum.

Its a shame that a bulk of those apps are trash. Again its been brought up before most of the major apps in the app store are available for the other guys too. I don't like using App store numbers as a selling point. The App store has turned into a swap meet.

[Goona]

Its a shame that a bulk of those apps are trash. Again its been brought up before most of the major apps in the app store are available for the other guys too. I don't like using App store numbers as a selling point. The App store has turned into a swap meet.

And I guess the other app stores aren't full of junk, I mean having access to apps that the other markets don't have is a bad thing and the prices also being cheaper is also a bad thing. :rolleyes:

[lamadude]

My issue is when posters come on a Mac forum and say things like "ONE UP FOR MS, SCREW APPLE". At that point why even come to a Mac/Apple forum at all? Seems like more hatred for Apple and hopes for Apple to fail.

I would agree with that but the post you reacted to was not doing that at all, simply pointing out the irony and selective memory in apple's advertising

[HLdan]

I would agree with that but the post you reacted to was not doing that at all, simply pointing out the irony and selective memory in apple's advertising

Alright, fair enough. However I would still like that poster or anyone else to point me to where Apple was bashing MS for having too many apps written for Windows? That would make no sense to bash MS for Windows having too many apps unless there was more to that story.

[wonderbread57]

Hasn't Appl been boasting about 100,000 apps for the past 6 months or more?

[charliehustle]

Hasn't Appl been boasting about 100,000 apps for the past 6 months or more?

so now that Jobs said they're going to allow in app purchases inside apps that were originally free mean all the "lite"or free versions are gonna be gone?

and wouldn't that bring the total apps down?

I'm just mad jobs originally said 75% of apps are going to be free, but in reality, it's only 25% free..

and 90% of the 2 billion app downloads have been free apps..

[Mattie Num Nums]

And I guess the other app stores aren't full of junk, I mean having access to apps that the other markets don't have is a bad thing and the prices also being cheaper is also a bad thing. :rolleyes:

Its also not there number one selling point and plastered like propaganda everywhere.

[*LTD*]

Its also not there number one selling point and plastered like propaganda everywhere.

Because it's a key selling point. For everyone.

[Mattie Num Nums]

Because it's a key selling point. For everyone.

It's not. Some people could care less about Apps.

[md65066]

I just wish there was an easier way to search through those 100,000 apps... if you're not a new release or featured then you get buried.

You sir, are so right. I can't stand trying to look at hundreds of apps and they all have one star. I wish Apple could create some sort of new way to look at apps. Besides that, congrats to Apple. Finally, when the smart phone industry is making their phones, they will have to look at Apples success and techniques forcing them to think of how they can make something better. Now, if the carriers can keep up with the bandwidth that these phones require....... that is another story. I doubt we will see them do that until "OMGZ BUY 1 GET 1 FREE... PLX SIGN 2 YR CONTRACT"

[*LTD*]

It's not. Some people could care less about Apps.

If your platform is to succeed, it has to have a robust app store. Then it's a real platform.

[Goona]

It's not. Some people could care less about Apps.

The competition cared enough to bring out their own app stores after Apple debuted their own. The consumers cared to download 2 billion apps. The developers cared to develop 100 000 apps. The tiny minority of you who don't care as so minute that you are irrelevant.

[Goona]

Its also not there number one selling point and plastered like propaganda everywhere.

Maybe because Apple's app store is bigger, who's gonna listen to them trump anything that is smaller than Apple's offering.

[xIGmanIx]

and i would say about 85% of them fall in the novelty/useful for a day/fun to try out deals. I mean, its great a tennis tournament has an App, but what about the other 50 weeks of the year? my usage continues to remain in the core four (email/text/phone/calendar) with a few well designed games that keep my attention.

[djdole]

Unless they are all QUALITY, this is not impressive and only goes towards showing the lack of good quality control and asinine Resistance on pointless restrictions. Since we know how many crappy pointless apps Apple has let through, it's far easier to get a pointless trash-app into the store than it is to get a genuinely useful app (like google voice or flash)

[*LTD*]

The competition cared enough to bring out their own app stores after Apple debuted their own. The consumers cared to download 2 billion apps. The developers cared to develop 100 000 apps. The tiny minority of you who don't care as so minute that you are irrelevant.

This is essentially the reality of it.

[xIGmanIx]

I had to laugh at that. What happened to apple could stop developing their OS for ten years and still be ahead of mircosoft? i guess Snow leopard happened.

Mac OS users have made a conscious technology choice and are therefore typically better informed than their peers. -- Paul Thurrott, winsupersite.com, December 06, 2004

[MorphingDragon]

Unless they are all QUALITY, this is not impressive and only goes towards showing the lack of good quality control and asinine Resistance on pointless restrictions. Since we know how many crappy pointless apps Apple has let through, it's far easier to get a pointless trash-app into the store than it is to get a genuinely useful app (like google voice or flash)

Apple should make flash through the Apple store just so they can advertise that They've got 10 billion downloaded apps!

[MorphingDragon]

I had to laugh at that. What happened to apple could stop developing their OS for ten years and still be ahead of mircosoft? i guess Snow leopard happened.

It was long gone before Snow Leopard.

[Goona]

I had to laugh at that. What happened to apple could stop developing their OS for ten years and still be ahead of mircosoft? i guess Snow leopard happened.

What happened to Snow Leopard? :confused:

[toprat]

Oh yeah!

Glad Apple is moving so strong.

Big Thanks to the developers for making quality apps and adjusting pricing for economies of scale!

:apple: Rock on!

You really must think that Apple is religion, dear Apple fan!

You have only couple errors here.

1. Quality apps.

Where do you find quality if 95-98% is total garbage e.g. "FART" apps?

2. Adjusting pricing for economics of scale.

Are you serious? Really? Current pricing downturn will make 98% app development unprofitable even with "economics of scale". Or maybe it is still profitable somewhere in India and some other even lower income areas.


Btw. Huge success for iPhone in China. First weekend and 5000 sold! What an achievement in country with much more than 1,3 BILLION people.

[inkswamp]

Cue the app store is full of crap and fart app folks.

Heh... and every single one of them will miss the irony that the same abundance of software argument was used in favor of Windows over the Mac.

It never ends, does it? :rolleyes:

[cumanzor]

I just find posts like this ridiculous on a Mac forum. Makes you seriously wonder where the loyalty is. It also makes you wonder who's a troll? :rolleyes:


Neither one of you even understood my post. I have no issues with people complaining about Apple or saying something negative, if I did I certainly wouldn't have registered on this forum since this place is the king of Apple bashing.

My issue is when posters come on a Mac forum and say things like "ONE UP FOR MS, SCREW APPLE". At that point why even come to a Mac/Apple forum at all? Seems like more hatred for Apple and hopes for Apple to fail.

The problem in your logic is that you are somehow "making a "Almost all apps in there suck" comment into a "ONE UP FOR MS, SCREW APPLE" comment.

Loyalty, trolls? What kind of world do you live in where you cannot question or criticize something you own or something you are part of?

[xIGmanIx]

regardless if you think that its a full OS or not, i don't think any one would disagree there were some issues at launch. That doesn't mean they are not expected with a new release, however the notion that apple "could cease software development and be ten years ahead of microsoft" is a laughable. whats wrong with public "beta/release candidate" for the masses to troubleshoot issues like flash,software compatability, etc? i think that would have allowed SL to be as successful as possible both critically and also revenue wise. I personally am not going to upgrade my wifes late 2008 MB to SL as i have seen nothing conclusive to mandate the switch.

What happened to Snow Leopard? :confused:

[Goona]

You really must think that Apple is religion, dear Apple fan!

You have only couple errors here.

1. Quality apps.

Where do you find quality if 95-98% is total garbage e.g. "FART" apps?

2. Adjusting pricing for economics of scale.

Are you serious? Really? Current pricing downturn will make 98% app development unprofitable even with "economics of scale". Or maybe it is still profitable somewhere in India and some other even lower income areas.


Btw. Huge success for iPhone in China. First weekend and 5000 sold! What an achievement in country with much more than 1,3 BILLION people.
LOL at some of these jealous dudes, as I said cue the app store is full of crap folks.

[*LTD*]

I had to laugh at that. What happened to apple could stop developing their OS for ten years and still be ahead of mircosoft? i guess Snow leopard happened.

Which is what you post when you've got nothing else.

Paul Thurrott, "Mr. Windows", actually said that. Priceless.

How could I *not* make that my sig??

[macshill]

Christ ALMIGHTY! Almost all those apps are CRAP. Geez, get over yourself Apple.....

+1

Microsoft is the most-used OS in the world (highest number), but Apple has always touted "it's about quality". Now Apple is touting a high number in apps available.

When Microsoft's Zune HD gets to 100,000 apps, fanboys here will say "pfft, most of them are crap". Meanwhile, I'm sure Apple will be up to 250,000.

I WILL say I'm proud of the posters here pointing out the fact that of the 100 grand here, a large bulk are crap apps. ;) lol :p You guys give me hope in clarity.

[ThunderSkunk]

Hm. A hundred thousand apps, and I've settled on three useful ones.

Airsharing
FourTrack
Fieldrunners

Hmmm.

[ThunderSkunk]

Btw. Huge success for iPhone in China. First weekend and 5000 sold! What an achievement in country with much more than 1,3 BILLION people.

Agreed. Stupid Apple, they should have told the Chinese government to go get stuffed, cause as a mighty American corporation, they answer to no one!

[wackymacky]

And the vast majority are without significant function or bordering on porn, which I thought wasn't allowed anyway.

Each time I visit the App I get a little more disappointed

[xIGmanIx]

Bu then who would manufacture their superior American corporation device :rolleyes:

Agreed. Stupid Apple, they should have told the Chinese government to go get stuffed, cause as a mighty American corporation, they answer to no one!

[*LTD*]

And the vast majority are without significant function or bordering on porn, which I thought wasn't allowed anyway.

Each time I visit the App I get a little more disappointed

I'm sure that's quite a relief for the competition. And here we thought they had something to worry about . . .

[ThunderSkunk]

Bu then who would manufacture their superior American corporation device :rolleyes:

Ooh! I know, I know! The great American workforce! All those skilled laborers and manufacturing whizzes that made the industrial revolution so profitable!

We'll just pull our grandparents generation back out of their graves and tell them to get back to work.

[Village]

That's a lot of new developers out there with Obj-C/Cocoa experience.

I wonder at what point Apple is going to try and nudge them towards Mac development as well. I still think a Mac App Store would revitalise the Mac market.
This is insightful. I'm a .NET developer who has been playing with Objective-C & Cocoa Touch to try iPhone app development. It's been a pleasant experience and has made me more open to work on full-fledged Mac apps.

[inkswamp]

+1

What's with this lately? Last time I checked, this wasn't Digg (thank @#$%&* God!)

Microsoft is the most-used OS in the world (highest number), but Apple has always touted "it's about quality". Now Apple is touting a high number in apps available.

When Microsoft's Zune HD gets to 100,000 apps, fanboys here will say "pfft, most of them are crap". Meanwhile, I'm sure Apple will be up to 250,000.

I WILL say I'm proud of the posters here pointing out the fact that of the 100 grand here, a large bulk are crap apps. ;) lol :p You guys give me hope in clarity.

And as I have pointed out, those arguing that most of the apps are crap (usually without any convincing evidence for that statement) appear to ignore the fact that for years and years, Windows advocates used the plethora of software on Microsoft's platform as a primary argument against using a Mac. They still do, as a matter of fact.

The fanboy thing goes both ways. I don't get people who attack one way or the other. It's all annoying. Both sides contradict themselves.

BTW, if even 10% of the App Store consists of quality apps (and from what I've seen, that a very conservative guess) that still gives users a solid 10,000 quality apps to pick from--still well ahead of the nearest competitor.

So, instead of balking at sour grapes or playing the fanboy card, why don't you sit back and enjoy this interesting new direction that personal computing is taking and recognize it for the milestone that it is. You (and others) might gain a better perspective and wouldn't feel the need to go around trying to make everyone miserable.

[LagunaSol]

Hm. A hundred thousand apps, and I've settled on three useful ones.

Airsharing
FourTrack
Fieldrunners

Hmmm.

Methinks you haven't looked very hard.

(Though Fieldrunners does remain one of my all-time favorites).

What's with this lately? Last time I checked, this wasn't Digg (thank @#$%&* God!)

+1 :D

And as I have pointed out, those arguing that most of the apps are crap (usually without any convincing evidence for that statement) appear to ignore the fact that for years and years, Windows advocates used the plethora of software on Microsoft's platform as a primary argument against using a Mac. They still do, as a matter of fact.

Yeah, but, um, this is about Apple, so it's, you know, different.

Just like with the Nintendo Wii. A large software collection is derided by the Redmond Horde as "shovelware" while the Xbox (bask in the red glow!) is praised for its large number of software titles vs. the PS3.

Microsoft fanboys don't own mirrors.

You really must think that Apple is religion, dear Apple fan!

And let's give a warm welcome to our latest "I just joined MacRumors so I could spit and sputter about Apple and its customers and/or praise its competition" member! It's nice to see the club continue to grow. :rolleyes:

[twoodcc]

great news for apple and the iphone! the main reason why the iphone will continue to be a success

[ThunderSkunk]

Methinks you haven't looked very hard.

(Though Fieldrunners does remain one of my all-time favorites).

Yeh. I've probably bought a dozen apps or so total, but most just sat & took up space after the first week. Maybe if I had more time than just a minute here or there, i'd be able to do more, but with two businesses to run, I still haven't found time to even use 4track yet. It takes me a month to finish a fieldrunners game, though, I do have that one down pat after all this time. Need more maps, weapons, & levels!

[bruinsrme]

I wish someone would come up with a tip calculator already

[2992]

I wish someone would come up with a tip calculator already

+1 :D

[wooo]

“With 10,000 downloads a day, worldwide customer response to our I Am T-Pain App has exceeded our wildest expectations,” said Jeff Smith, CEO of Smule. “The App Store has given us a unique opportunity to create and grow a very successful business, and we’re looking forward to an exciting future.”

I wonder if Smule's pleased with the recent bug that took their app from #22 in the US overall to nowhere in the top 100? Great timing for this apple...

Hopefully apple fixes it quick since my app's magically disappeared from the "paid" top 100's in 10 minutes 6 months of hard work goes away thanks to an apple bug. Will there be a press release? Nope. Ah, that games we play in Apple's sandbox.

(P.S. Don't think I'm whining... well, I am but mistakes happen, and would happen in any app store... but usually you have a phone number to call someone and say "hey, something bad is going on, can you tell me what?" Not so with Apple... Fortunately, I'm sure Smule DOES have that phone number and I'd bet they're using it...

[toprat]

And let's give a warm welcome to our latest "I just joined MacRumors so I could spit and sputter about Apple and its customers and/or praise its competition" member! It's nice to see the club continue to grow. :rolleyes:

Thanks, I always like warm welcomes! :D

Did I praise competition?

I just hate religious type behavior with any business.

Which one of my remarks were false?

1. Most of apps are total crap?
2. Prices of apps are going down faster that customer base is growing?
3. First weekend in China sold only 5000 iPhones
4. If you announce 100000 apps, why can't you tell how many of those are not free? Free downloads does not mean anything.
5. If you announce 2 billion downloads and won't tell how many of those apps are from NOT FREE apps, why should I believe that there is any business at all?

In long run only tiny amount of NOT FREE apps means that there will not be many good apps

I just don't understand why so many support Apple, which is trying to build NOT free economy and prevent consumers making their own decisions what apps they want to use in their own devices. But that is normal for most US companies, double moral "christian" standards that are not really supported by christians US citizens, except in public forum.

Yes, I understand that US has not been free market for long long time. Simple answer to following question answers that: What is first employee that you need to hire when you want to bring your company and products to US market? Answer: LAWYER. In other markets first employee should be Sales Person. OK, maybe it is laweyr and sales person in US, but I think that you see my point.

At least in Europe we do not accept companies to make these decisions, we accept only real free speech and choice.

[LagunaSol]

At least in Europe we do not accept companies to make these decisions, we accept only real free speech and choice.

LOL!

:rolleyes:

[ozzyman500]

I found about 40 that I enjoy and 10 I cannot live without.

[MorphingDragon]

I wish someone would come up with a tip calculator already

All it would say is,

"Put hand in pocket, pick out lowest value coin."

[toprat]

LOL!

:rolleyes:

Yeah, I know that there are differences with some EU countries, but still this is reality for more than 300 million (out of 500+ million) EU citizens than 300 million US citizens.

[MorphingDragon]

At least in Europe we do not accept companies to make these decisions, we accept only real free speech and choice.

Oh Oh Oh, most countries in Europe/Oceania I can go out onto the street and swear my friggin head off! I can't do that in America. :rolleyes: