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Durandal7
Jul 27, 2004, 07:01 PM
One of the statements by extremists of both sides is that "al-Qaeda wants so-and-so to win the election." Left-wingers think that they want George Bush to win since he is a "poster boy for their cause." Right-wingers claim that they want John Kerry to win because "he will try to appease them."

I find both these claims absolutely repugnant.

The simple fact is that Jihadis hate both Democrats and Republicans and would gladly murder both Bush and Kerry if given the chance.

A site I often visit is dedicated to monitoring the web forums that the terrorists use. An article was posted today regarding al-Qaeda's online chatter about Bush & Kerry and I have decided to repost it here in the hopes of sinking this ridiculous arguement made by both sides.

27 July 2004 - Jihadis and the American Political Process
by Laura Mansfield

As the Democratic National Convention continues in Boston this week, the Arabic language jihadi boards are once again beginning to talk about John Kerry, who is expected to accept the party’s nomination later this week at the convention. The above graphic is one of many which appear on the Arabic language forums regarding the American political process.

Baizid Al Awil, postig on the Arena forum, states that Kerry is the more prominent of the two candidates, and is likely to lead the US during the “next period of time”. He states that Kerry “bears to us, the Saudis, a special hatred”, and claims that Saudi Arabia will be a target of attack if Kerry wins the election. He closes his post by stating “Oh Saudis, Oh your hell will come from John Kerry”.

Another poster on the Arena forums states the following: “Kerry and Bush are two faces of the same…”

Another posting on the same forum claims “And Allah knows that only the weak fear John Kerry. The weak in their religion continue to weaken and follow the dirty John Kerry and his brother George Bush…”

And yet another poster starts off “The Jewish John Kerry, candidate for the American Presidency, attacks Saudi Arabia”. The posting emphasizes Kerry’s Jewish roots, citing his grandfather’s name change from Cohen in 1902. It also cites a recent visit by Kerry’s brother to Israel, and speculates that Kerry will be a “pro-Zionist” President.

Meanwhile, both the Reform forum and the Qal3ah forum have been focusing on John Kerry’s Jewish ancestry as well, and of the affiliation both Bush and Kerry have with regards to their membership in the “Skull and Bones” at Yale.

George Bush is receiving almost universal condemnation on the Arabic language forums as well.

If the posts on the forums are any indication of the position of Al Qaeda, it appears that both candidates are equally distasteful to the terrorist organization.

Al Qaeda has made clear its intent to attempt to disrupt the US elections. Much speculation has been made regarding which candidate Al Qaeda would prefer to give the advantage to.

But it should be considered that Al Qaeda may not have a preference among the candidates; instead, the primary goal of the organization is to attack and damage the United States and its economy. Perhaps their goal is not to prevent one candidate from winning the election. Instead, their aim is very likely to simply disrupt the American electoral process, a process which has never before been disrupted on a national basis.

Link (http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/)



Neserk
Jul 27, 2004, 07:04 PM
Politics aside, good point. I'm thinking that they hate all Americans, regardless of political party.

Perci Mac
Jul 27, 2004, 08:02 PM
It's sad. Such reckless hate is something to worry about, for all Americans. Now the hate is spreading to anyone associated with America.

letterbox
Jul 28, 2004, 12:15 AM
Such reckless hate is something to worry about, for all Americans.

Reckless? While hate of Americans may be widespread, is it not warranted?

I think there was a post on this board recently about why America is frowned upon in the rest of the world.

To quickly sum it up:

1. Unilateral actions even after opposed by the UN.
2. Iraq.
3. Israel.

Also, I don't know your stance on any of these issues, so please don't take it as a personal attack.

...and one more thing - there is plenty of the hate in the world and much of it comes from Americans and is directed at non-Americans, maybe the root of the evil is the evil itself.

Durandal7
Jul 28, 2004, 12:41 AM
A follow-up to my original post. The article I posted mentioned an image that was posted in the Arabic forums. This is the image that the terrorists are posting on their websites:

pseudobrit
Jul 28, 2004, 01:21 AM
A follow-up to my original post. The article I posted mentioned an image that was posted in the Arabic forums. This is the image that the terrorists are posting on their websites:

Anyone know what the script reads?

Isn't this a good sign for Kerry? I mean, so far, the GOP has pushed the logic that because the terrorists hate Bush for invading Iraq, they'd support Kerry, which of course means that terrorists and Kerry are two peas in a pod. Now we learn that Kerry is worthy of just as much, if not more fundamentalist hatred!

themadchemist
Jul 28, 2004, 02:03 AM
I think we can all agree with you on that.

Durandal7
Jul 28, 2004, 02:51 AM
Isn't this a good sign for Kerry?

I don't think this is good for anybody.

Bobcat37
Jul 28, 2004, 03:07 AM
Haha, Durandal, I agree...

It's like on of those "if hundreds of US Soldiers were killed in Iraq tomorrow, that would be good for John Kerry" kind of goods... It's unfortunate, but you all know it's completely true.

Casualties in Iraq = Bush takes the blame and Kerry looks like an even better alternative.

Zaid
Jul 28, 2004, 08:06 AM
Anyone know what the script reads?


Very roughly translated (i've only got very basic arabic) it says

John Kerry stinks(?) (lit. he smells) . He is an enemy of the arabs.

Could someone who knows more arabic confirm the translation.