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Ja Di ksw
Nov 11, 2009, 11:10 AM
Apparently MS is finally doing something about people pirating games. They've kicked people off of Live if they use pirated games (supposedly). I'm sure people will complain, but if this is done correctly and doesn't hit people who have been using their Xbox correctly I don't really see a problem with it. People need to pay for what they get. Just b/c pirating has become commonplace doesn't mean it's not stealing. And if you're complaining about things being region locked, I will fully admit that it sucks, but it's MS's sandbox, they can do what they want with it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8354166.stm



peskaa
Nov 11, 2009, 01:40 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10002900/10002915.stm


This guy has no shame, seriously.

I've probably saved about £600 and I've copied roughly 30 or 40 games. A lot of them I've downloaded or I've taken off friends that have downloaded themselves.



EDIT:
He also says he comes home from work and plays games...yet can't afford to buy them. Err, right.

Dagless
Nov 11, 2009, 01:57 PM
Good!

On a side note have they managed to crack the PS3 yet?

Ja Di ksw
Nov 11, 2009, 02:07 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10002900/10002915.stm


This guy has no shame, seriously.

Wow, no kidding. I bet that would be a great defense in court for someone who broke into an art gallery and stole a bunch of paintings. "You're honor, I know it's not too costly to once in awhile pay for a painting, but there are so many good ones that I want, I can't afford to pay for those. But I want them! I've probably saved thousands by just stealing them. It's wrong for me to be punished for this, because I was just saving money."

Cromulent
Nov 11, 2009, 03:06 PM
I wish people would get the terms right. It is copyright infringement not theft.

Still I'm glad Microsoft are doing something about it. It might reduce the number of hideously annoying people on Xbox Live.

whooleytoo
Nov 11, 2009, 03:53 PM
Are 360s sold as a loss leader? If so, I'm sure Microsoft would be thrilled if these gamers abandoned the platform and went to Sony - would save them money! :)

This story does seem to echo Apple's battle vs jailbreaking (trying to crack down on technologies which can enable software piracy). Is there any legitimate use for chipped 360s?

MacRumorUser
Nov 11, 2009, 04:22 PM
Are 360s sold as a loss leader?

No they are made and sold in profit these days.... :)


(excluding the RROD costs)


Also since when is this NEW news ? Microsoft systematically role out these blockers every 6 months or so that blacklist LIVE user accounts that are found to be using pirate software. Unlike the Wii firmware updates, at least M$ doesn't intentionally try and brick their consoles (they have a habit of doing that themselves anyway ;) )


"My name's Raz, I'm 25 years old, I'm a massive Xbox gamer. I play every day after work and all day on the weekends.

The Xbox for me is just about playing online, that's why I love it - well did!

It was a big day yesterday, the latest game we've been waiting months and months for. We've played the whole series and this one's come out, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.

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To be honest, I've contemplated whether to move to Playstation 3 or buy another Xbox. I wouldn't do it again but I really don't know if I'm going to get the Xbox again now

Raz says he won't try to modify another games console
All loading up, everything's going well, I was happy. It came on to the start screen of Call of Duty and I thought, 'Do you know what, let me quickly sign in online'. I sign in online and next thing I see, 'Your console has been banned from Xbox'.

I was pretty distraught at the time, I can't remember exactly what it said but I saw the words 'banned' and I was gutted, completely gutted.

At first I was in shock, I mean it's always at the back of your head using pirate games you know there's that possibility but you haven't heard about it, there's been no warnings and you haven't heard it happen to anyone in the last two years.

I wasn't expecting it. I was just like, 'OK, what do I do now? Is this just a joke?' So I thought, 'Let me restart the Xbox'. I restarted, signed in again, same message. I did that three times, same message. I was pulling my hair out thinking, 'No, why me?'

It's like telling someone their dog's just died. It was pretty much like that for me. I love it, I love playing Xbox live. I play with my mates all the time. It's just a good laugh, we all sit there chatting, playing games. Now I don't know what to do.

Microsoft's banned a "small number" of 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide
I still think they should lower the prices. There are 16-year-old kids out there, they don't earn money so they go screaming to their parents saying, 'Can you buy me this game?'

Fair enough, one game once in a while but the amount of games coming out, good games, everyone wants to play them all. And for them to pay £50 a game?

I took it into a shop [the Xbox], there was a guy back there and I asked him and he did it for me [chipped it]. He charged £75 to get it chipped but at the end of the day I said to myself I'll pay £75 to get it chipped, after two games I've paid the money back.

I've probably saved about £600 and I've copied roughly 30 or 40 games. A lot of them I've downloaded or I've taken off friends that have downloaded themselves.

To be honest, I've contemplated whether to move to Playstation 3 or buy another Xbox. I wouldn't do it again but I really don't know if I'm going to get the Xbox again now."

I really pity you Raz........ toss**r ! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

whooleytoo
Nov 12, 2009, 12:47 PM
No they are made and sold in profit these days.... :)


(excluding the RROD costs)


That's a mighty big exclusion! And exclude the many 360s whose DVD drives failed too (mine's been replaced twice, once for each issue).


I really pity you Raz........ toss**r ! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I actually find it quite funny. It's so difficult to have any sympathy for him, you almost wonder if it's part of an astroturfing campaign by MS to discredit piraters (errr. pirates? piratees?)

jaw04005
Nov 12, 2009, 02:00 PM
I don’t tend to get worked up over other people’s copyright infringements. So, this doesn’t really concern me.

I was hoping they were banning people from Live that use modded controllers! Now, that’s something that screws Live up.

StruckANerve
Nov 12, 2009, 02:44 PM
Thieves deserve every ounce of punishment they get.

whooleytoo
Nov 12, 2009, 02:49 PM
Ignore... original was edited :)

lamina
Nov 12, 2009, 09:09 PM
This is why I opt to buy games instead of pirate them like I did with my original xbox. If a game is good enough to be played for a while, it's worth the buy.

r1ch4rd
Nov 13, 2009, 02:50 PM
This is why I opt to buy games instead of pirate them like I did with my original xbox. If a game is good enough to be played for a while, it's worth the buy.

Exactly, and you can always rent anything you aren't sure about. I used to use one of the online rental services (like LoveFilm) to get games I wasn't sure about. It only cost £20 per month, so if you got one decent game it was worth it. All completely legitimate. If people can't afford things they just need to be a bit more careful and put some thought into where their money goes, no need to pirate games.

dukebound85
Nov 13, 2009, 02:57 PM
this is why you buy games used

cheaper yet not illegal