View Full Version : iMac i7 Faster than entry Mac Pro
apparatchik
Nov 12, 2009, 11:01 AM
Actually don't want to fuel any ongoing debate but to call attention on that both machines offer some points more or less about the same raw processor perfmormance on its 'stock' offering by apple (this means, in practice, the i7 comes with 1 GB more RAM):
MacPro Base Early 2009 (Xeon 2.66 4 cores, $2499):
http://www.chefmart.com.mx/backend/macpro.jpg
source: http://www.primatelabs.ca/blog/2009/03/mac-pro-benchmarks-early-2009/
iMac i7 ($2199):
http://www.chefmart.com.mx/backend/iMaci7.jpg
source: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=818833
That said there a of course real life diffrences and diffrent targets, expandability replacements being the pro's main advantage, a bigger HD, more RAM, 27" monitor going for the iMac... all said I think the new iMac has given the permormance everyone expects from a current generation desktop computer, I'm waiting for the quads to be ready available here in Mexico to make the move :), congrats to the new owners!
jetjaguar
Nov 12, 2009, 12:04 PM
there are some other posts on this forum showing the base model mac pro pulling higher numbers on geekbench than the i7 imac
a350
Nov 12, 2009, 12:07 PM
My base mac pro scores in the 8300's also, but has a slower processor and less ram, so... what is slowing down the new imac with a faster processor speed and more ram?
apparatchik
Nov 12, 2009, 12:33 PM
I just saw another thread with an i7 scoring above 8.4k... but yeah the point here being not which may be faster (in real life Im sure the diffrences would be neglible) but that the new iMac finally offers desktop-like performance and is overall a very good deal
a350
Nov 12, 2009, 12:39 PM
I just saw another thread with an i7 scoring above 8.4k... but yeah the point here being not which may be faster (in real life Im sure the diffrences would be neglible) but that the new iMac finally offers desktop-like performance and is overall a very good deal
completely agree
eelpout
Nov 12, 2009, 12:45 PM
Actually the i7 860 and the W3520 in the base MacPro are pretty close in performance. The reason the W3520, at a lower clock speed, can match the i7 is because of the triple channel memory advantage it has. Look at Geekbench memory performance stats and you'll see it.
The amount of RAM in the box shouldn't make much of a difference in testing, as long as there is enough to prevent swap-out.
I think MacPro owner's can breath a slight sigh of relief that they haven't been completely outclassed with their investment. Though I'm still surprised Apple chooses not to drop the price on the base MacPro to at least match that of the i7 iMac. :confused:
a350
Nov 12, 2009, 12:50 PM
Actually the i7 860 and the W3520 in the base MacPro are pretty close in performance. The reason the W3520, at a lower clock speed, can match the i7 is because of the triple channel memory advantage it has. Look at Geekbench memory performance stats and you'll see it.
The amount of RAM in the box shouldn't make much of a difference in testing, as long as there is enough to prevent swap-out.
I think MacPro owner's can breath a slight sigh of relief that they haven't been completely outclassed with their investment. Though I'm still surprised Apple chooses not to drop the price on the base MacPro to at least match that of the i7 iMac. :confused:
well that's an easy one, the mac pro has many features that the imac can not compete with. it's not all about the performance when it comes to pricing. the 4 internal hdd bays, the pci slots, dual ethernet, the cooling system etc... is what makes the mac pro a mac pro.
apparatchik
Nov 12, 2009, 01:01 PM
well that's an easy one, the mac pro has many features that the imac can not compete with. it's not all about the performance when it comes to pricing. the 4 internal hdd bays, the pci slots, dual ethernet, the cooling system etc... is what makes the mac pro a mac pro.
That's true, also in graphic power (and the ability to swap a newer desktop card later on), will give the pro a sure advantage in graphic aware benchmarks... the mobile 4850 is in my opinion the only weak point on the iMac
Techhie
Nov 12, 2009, 01:11 PM
Actually the i7 860 and the W3520 in the base MacPro are pretty close in performance. The reason the W3520, at a lower clock speed, can match the i7 is because of the triple channel memory advantage it has. Look at Geekbench memory performance stats and you'll see it.
The amount of RAM in the box shouldn't make much of a difference in testing, as long as there is enough to prevent swap-out.
I think MacPro owner's can breath a slight sigh of relief that they haven't been completely outclassed with their investment. Though I'm still surprised Apple chooses not to drop the price on the base MacPro to at least match that of the i7 iMac. :confused:
Geekbench scores can have ~1000 pt discrepancies depending on a host of variables. My base '09 MP scored 9481 the first time I ran it, and that was with throttled dual channel RAM (four modules)
JWFerne
Nov 12, 2009, 02:14 PM
Up until now, the iMac was a nice laptop in disguise. I think it's beautiful Apple has two styles of gorgeous machines that are as powerful as they are. The iMac and Mac Pro are worthy machines for whatever taste and needs the end user has.
53x12
Nov 12, 2009, 02:18 PM
Geekbench scores can have ~1000 pt discrepancies depending on a host of variables. My base '09 MP scored 9481 the first time I ran it, and that was with throttled dual channel RAM (four modules)
Yeah I agree with the discrepancies. While mine haven't been that large, more like 10-20 points, that is still a variable. Also depends on how the person conducts the test; how many programs are running in the background, test run right after bootup, how warm the CPU is...etc.
Bryan Bowler
Nov 12, 2009, 02:55 PM
I'm extremely impressed with the i7's numbers!
Bryan
mrsir2009
Nov 12, 2009, 11:22 PM
Wow, this means that for some the iMac could replace their Mac Pro.
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