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Bimbalbamble
Nov 19, 2009, 05:43 AM
With piracy at a all time high, the authorities seen stumped as to what to do to curb the problem. There are ideas of cutting people of from the ISP and very rare cases taking somebody to court, but that wont stop the millions of other people downloading.

I think the music industry is going to go through a major change and bring in a "Music Licence" very similar to a TV licence.

The would be something along the lines of a monthly or yearly payment to a disignated body, be enforced by law with court fines for "dodgers".

BUT, all music would then be free. To download from national websites. It would be the end of the Compact Disk in a shop, you would need to burn your own... the world will got digital in our lifetime anyway.

I live in the UK, and this would make more sense to peeps over this side of the pond. Thats not to say it could not work in the States.

Discuss... :)



Mercer
Nov 20, 2009, 05:37 AM
:apple:
Its a good idea although i dont know how the "artists" would react to such a proposal because then everybody would be earning the same regardless of talent?

Bimbalbamble
Nov 20, 2009, 05:44 AM
It would'nt be that cut and dry...

In simple terms, the money should go into a pot and then be distributed out to the varies people involved based on different aspects. Popularity etc.

It would be measured by downloads for artists, and there would need to be other measures for backroom staff.

to be fair, it will be a knightmare to arrange, but im sure a high priced team of people would be able to come to an arrangement.

It works for the BBC!

radionickhead
Nov 20, 2009, 06:18 AM
Radiohead got it right...
pay what you feel like paying..
They know if you want to get it for free you will..
I hadn't paid for a cd in years but I paid for that virtual download..and it went to the artists not the record labels.

roadbloc
Nov 20, 2009, 06:53 AM
I disagree.

It probably isnt going to change for a while... due to the recording studio's being such retards and wanting all the money.

But I imagine the amount of acts and artists giving out their home recorded music for free and gigs will will be their main source of income. Simply because it just isn't worth being signed anymore.

theLimit
Nov 20, 2009, 08:11 AM
Radiohead got it right...
pay what you feel like paying..
They know if you want to get it for free you will..
I hadn't paid for a cd in years but I paid for that virtual download..and it went to the artists not the record labels.

My sentiments exactly.

Also, the best music is rarely on the major labels. If a band does happen to get signed, the greedy corporate minds tend to have any soul or artistic merit sucked out of the music in order to make it "radio-friendly".

Bimbalbamble
Nov 20, 2009, 09:58 AM
gigs will will be their main source of income. Simply because it just isn't worth being signed anymore.

Gig prices will go up!

Bennieboyİ
Nov 20, 2009, 11:11 AM
indeed, this is primarily aimed from fat cat label bosses and those that churn out manufactured turds on a daily basis, just for the sake of having that latest car or the biggest house on the street,

mainstream music absolutely sucks, it's not about singing anymore, it's about marketing and profit margins.

as far as a music licence go's, nah-uh, dont agree with that either,
i'm appalled at the fact that we have to pay a TV licence for 1 pathetic cruddy channel in this country as it is,

and in a round about way the music licence would do the same as the TV licence,

how much does a UK tele licence cost? and how many people actually pay it,
for all that money what programs do they provide that you would actually sit and watch without falling asleep?

same for music, i think,
it all comes down to the accumulation of wealth, that IS the driving force in 99% of what people do, especially famous people,
until that changes, things will always be this way

roadbloc
Nov 20, 2009, 12:13 PM
Gig prices will go up!

Unlikely, because the artists are unsigned, Record Labels, Studio's and other companies that the band have got involved in will not be taking a slice. At the most it will be a touring company.

It will be the industry that looses out in this very gradual change. So much so, that these labels, studio's and other unions and companies will evolve to stop them from loosing out.

Either that or so called talent shows will be the main source of their income. Like *s******* xFactor and Britain's Got Talent.

philipt42
Nov 20, 2009, 09:43 PM
All interesting ideas...I do agree that radiohead's model was a good one. If I liked that CD, I probably would have paid like $5 for it, but I actually rarely play more than $5 anyway, because used CDs on amazon are very cheap.

Also, if everyone did what radiohead did, once the novelty had worn off, there wouldn't be that beneficiary wave of publicity that attracted customers to "In Rainbows".

XNine
Nov 20, 2009, 10:56 PM
Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, Vast... These bands are showing what you can do by yourself, without ****** record labels taking all the money for themselves. Bandwidth is cheap as dirt these days and without having to put money into promotions, cd's, and advertising, it means the bands that do the records themselves will profit more.

I pirate because I refuse to give money to the labels. If they want to start dropping prices, then I'll buy, but there is no way that any CD is worth 15 bucks. For bands that release on their own, and sell their CD's at shows, that's where I buy.

Take the Beatles for example. Their newest box set is 250 bucks. EFF that. Most of them aren't even alive anymore. And Mcartny doesn't need any more money.

c-Row
Nov 22, 2009, 04:11 AM
I pirate because I refuse to give money to the labels. If they want to start dropping prices, then I'll buy, but there is no way that any CD is worth 15 bucks. For bands that release on their own, and sell their CD's at shows, that's where I buy.

If you want to get your CDs cheaper, there are plenty of legal options and retailers like CDWow or CrazyTiger.

Yojiirill
Nov 22, 2009, 09:39 AM
Yep, I, like everyone other top 40-hating individual here, thinks that "Reznor Marketing" is the way of the future. Top 40 radio will only be for the "biggest idiots", and every artist who makes decent music will focus on at least one free download. This will allow for the indie scene to become even bigger than it is today.

partyBoy
Nov 23, 2009, 11:06 PM
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Bimbalbamble
Nov 25, 2009, 11:52 AM
i love LimeWire :D

Why???


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andalusia
Nov 26, 2009, 04:32 PM
Why???


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If not torrent, Frostwire!

Bengt77
Nov 26, 2009, 05:37 PM
Gig prices will go up!
Even further? :eek:

Am I old-fashioned in still buying cds?

cjuakjra
Dec 1, 2009, 04:20 PM
I accept with information:same for music, i think,
it all comes down to the accumulation of wealth, that IS the driving force in 99% of what people do, especially famous people,
until that changes, things will always be this way

XNine
Dec 1, 2009, 09:44 PM
i love LimeWire :D

Until the feds come knocking at your door and the MPAA sues your ass for millions of dollars.

Torrents are great, though I do miss the days of IRC. Wasn't so long ago that IRC was still pumping out everything you wanted to find...