iPhoto 4.0.3 Now Available

[MacRumors]

iPhoto version 4.0.3 is now available via Software Update or download (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/iphoto.html):
iPhoto 4.0.3 addresses minor issues with Smart Albums and European books, and provides notification when new versions of iPhoto are available.
This description is the same as that for iPhoto version 4.0.2 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/08/20040802164637.shtml), which was pulled from Software Update on August 3rd without explanation.

[Porchland]

Glad to see Apple get this little snaggle behind them.

[Darwin]

I think I will give this one a bit of time before installing :D

On second thoughts it might fix the "flaw" that was in 4.0.2

[crzyltlman]

Glad they fixed it, whatever it was. Unless this one gets pulled tomorrow. But no new explanation? C'mon. Not a good step towards their goal of improved customer communication.

I can't figure out whether to vote this positive or negative. I'll leave it neutral, I guess.

[Veldek]

Would have been nice to get an explanation, but at least it was quite quick.

[macridah]

What is the reason why apple pulled 4.0.2?

[centauratlas]

iPhoto version 4.0.3 is now available via Software Update:<p class="quote"]iPhoto 4.0.3 addresses minor issues with Smart Albums and European books, and provides notification when new versions of iPhoto are available..</p>
This description is the same as that for iPhoto version 4.0.2 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/08/20040802164637.shtml), which was pulled from Software Update on August 3rd without explanation.

Here goes nothing since I already had 4.0.2. ;-) Downloading now. Installed.

It did upgrade my Photo Library. 4H2 is the version.

Edit:
I don't see anything in the new version...I upgraded two machines (dual 64/800, and 17 1.5 PB) now without problems.

[dizastor]

Apple also notes that if you ever speak of the iPhoto 4.0.2 release, your mac will be taken away from you, and you will be locked in the dungeon in Cupertino.

[Nermal]

Wow, 7.1 MB, they must've really screwed up 4.0.2 for the 4.0.3 updater to be that big! :eek:

[parenthesis]

I find it interesting that 4.0.2 continues to say "Version 4.0.2 is the latest version." Maybe Apple fixed the update portion?

[mainstreetmark]

Wow, 7.1 MB, they must've really screwed up 4.0.2 for the 4.0.3 updater to be that big! :eek:

I'll wager that this is a second update to 4.0.1, not an update to 4.0.2.

[ZildjianKX]

Apple is really horrible at admitting to security flaws and software problems... this is a primo example... them not saying what was fixed in the 4.02 release.

[jkhanson]

I ran the 4.0.3 updater (I had already done the 4.0.2 update before it was pulled) then launched iPhoto. It gave me a dialogue window saying that my iPhoto library needed to be upgraded (with options for Upgrade or Quit). I decided to quit first and make a backup copy of my library.

Ran iPhoto again and let it upgrade my library. Everything seems fine. The only difference that I noticed was that the program quits more rapidly than 4.0.2, which had seemed much slower than earlier versions.

[xtbfx]

One thing I noticed as a difference between 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 is that 4.0.3 asked me to upgrade my iPhoto library.

But that's about it. Works just the same as it always has.

[NeoMayhem]

Works great, just like 4.0.2 did :P

[jrober]

4.0.3 running fine just like 4.0.2 on my Panther Powerbook

Speaking of upgrade errors, does anyone have any experience of the last security update for Jaguar causing "app has unexpectedly quit" errors when trying to start an app after 2-3 days of constantly running machine?

My iMac G3 is behaving strangely after the last set of sw upgrades were installed.

John

[Mord]

it probably only affected one type of mac like that developers seed of 10.3.4 that screwed up 20" imacs

[kalashnicov]

a guy on versiontracker said it took 16 seconds to shut down iPhoto 4.0.2 with his PMG5 dual 2 Ghz

4.0.3 fixed this

[johnnowak]

Apple is really horrible at admitting to security flaws and software problems... this is a primo example... them not saying what was fixed in the 4.02 release.

They probably just fixed a minor bug.. and they did it so well that if you weren't on macrumors, you'd not of even noticed that they pulled anything. This is how stuff is SUPPOSED to work. Why the hell are you complaining?

[ZildjianKX]

They probably just fixed a minor bug.. and they did it so well that if you weren't on macrumors, you'd not of even noticed that they pulled anything. This is how stuff is SUPPOSED to work. Why the hell are you complaining?

I'm complaining because Apple has a ****ty history of not publishing what fixes do... isn't that what I said in my post? duh...

[manu chao]

Maybe 4.0.2 simply wasn't updating the library (in essence the library files i.e.: iPhoto.db, AlbumData.xml, Dir.data and Library.iPhoto plus the album files). Could somebody who hasn't yet installed 4.0.3 check whether these files were updated (modification date) by the 4.0.2 installer?

[~Shard~]

Let's hope they get it right this time.... ;)

[youngr40]

The only difference I have noticed is there is now a Check for Updates option from the iPhoto Menu, as well as option in the preferences.

As a note my update is on 5.9MB and it was with 4.0.2

[SilentPanda]

Oh no! My computer started making waffles after this update! Sounds like a good feature to me. :)

Actually no real change. It closes a lot faster now. I had 4.0.2 installed and when I went to run 4.0.3 it had to update my thumbnails which took about a minute (1.5 gigs of photos).

Everything looks good. Only difference I notice is it closes when I tell it to instead of 20 seconds later.

[djdarlek]

Maybe 4.0.2 simply wasn't updating the library (in essence the library files i.e.: iPhoto.db, AlbumData.xml, Dir.data and Library.iPhoto plus the album files). Could somebody who hasn't yet installed 4.0.3 check whether these files were updated (modification date) by the 4.0.2 installer?

ok manu here we go...

iPhoto.db - modified 3rd August 2004
AlbumData.xml - modified Today
Dir.data - modified 17th June 2004
Library.iPhoto - modified 17th June 2004

Don't know what this proves to u but hope it helps :D

I do find it highly amusing that the auto-update thingie in Version 4.0.2 doesn't work.. that MUST be one of the reasons Apple pulled it.. you would've thought they'd test that kinda thing first ;)

[Steamboatwillie]

Oh no! My computer started making waffles after this update!

Whew, thank goodness I wasn't the only one with breakfast foods spewing out of my Superdrive! :)

[joeboy_45101]

I'm complaining because Apple has a ****ty history of not publishing what fixes do... isn't that what I said in my post? duh...

Who cares what it fixes, as long as it's fixed then I'm cool. ;)

[veedubdrew]

4.0.2 hosed my entire library. I open up iPhoto and it now says "no photos" instead of the 5500 that were there before :mad:

I'm reimporting all my pictures back in right now and I'll try the 4.0.3 update when I get home.

In two years, this is my first Mac catastrophe. :(

-Drew

[millhouse]

4.03 launches, asks me to update my photos (which takes way to quick when its 1.25gb library and a 450mhz machine) then just says "loading photos" nothing else, i repaired permissions, trashed prefs and it still does this.
it just sits there saying "loading photos"

[aswitcher]

You know the truth dont you...

The iPhoto update has pics from Steve's recent operation which will now be subliminally appearing during all your slide shows with phrases relating to beating the big C designed to enhance Steve's "reality distortion field" (TM) :D

[autrefois]

Wow—at this rate we'll be at iPhoto 5 any day now! :) / :rolleyes:

They should say what the problem is, and it should automatically update from 4.0.2 (someone earlier says it doesn't notify you an update's available).

I doubt most users go to Apple Discussions or MacRumors to find out if the update they just installed yesterday already needs to be updated again. And how many "regular" people run Software Update everyday?

[joeboy_45101]

While the topic is about uprades, what version is XCode now. I'm running 1.1 but heard that Apple was supposed to release 1.5 today. I've never been able to download anything from the ADC site, the ftp download never seems to work. Why doesn't Apple provide all of the ADC downloads from the regular downloads site. :mad:

[The Tuck]

The thumbnails in my iPhoto library render much faster in this version. This update is certainly better than 4.0.2. http://forums.macrumors.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[narco]

Not sure if this happened to anyone else, but the iPhoto update stopped mid-way and gave me the spinning beach ball of death on my week-old G5. Wouldn't let me force quit or anything, had to hold down the power button to restart. Now it Software Update says there's nothing for me to upgrade. Super.

.narco

[virividox]

hmmmm that was odd

[autrefois]

Not sure if this happened to anyone else, but the iPhoto update stopped mid-way and gave me the spinning beach ball of death on my week-old G5. Wouldn't let me force quit or anything, had to hold down the power button to restart. Now it Software Update says there's nothing for me to upgrade. Super.

.narco

For me, it stopped midway, displayed a red exclamation point next to the update in the list and said to check my connection. I didn't get a spinning beachball, however.

Since I am and was currently surfing on the Web, I know my Web access is fine and has not been interrupted. Maybe Apple's servers had a momentary hiccup?

I just checked again now and the update is still available for me. I'll try downloading it again. I guess if it doesn't show up in the list for you, you'll have to download it manually.

EDIT: I resumed the update and it's done. Opened it, and it took approx. 5 seconds to update my photos (I have less than 1000). I quickly played around with a couple things, and then quit. It closed quickly. So all seems A-OK for me.

[aswitcher]

EDIT: I resumed the update and it's done. Opened it, and it took approx. 5 seconds to update my photos (I have less than 1000). I quickly played around with a couple things, and then quit. It closed quickly. So all seems A-OK for me.

Mmm. This time round I might wait a few days...

[jihad the movie]

EDIT: I resumed the update and it's done. Opened it, and it took approx. 5 seconds to update my photos (I have less than 1000). I quickly played around with a couple things, and then quit. It closed quickly. So all seems A-OK for me.


Same for me on my (Original)Dual 1.8 G5.

[bryantm3]

Apple is really horrible at admitting to security flaws and software problems... this is a primo example... them not saying what was fixed in the 4.02 release.
you never know, there could have been a huge hole or somthing that could be dangerous to reveal, like somthing that could hack someone [edit: steve jobs' pr0n collection] else's iDisk or somthing.

[Doga]

Ran the update; all is well so far... :)

[wPod]

i think ill give it a couple of days before i risk upgradeing to a magical dissapearing upgrade!

[Michael Vance]

Not sure if this happened to anyone else, but the iPhoto update stopped mid-way and gave me the spinning beach ball of death on my week-old G5. Wouldn't let me force quit or anything, had to hold down the power button to restart. Now it Software Update says there's nothing for me to upgrade. Super.

.narco

I don't think the exact nature of the operation really makes any difference with the spinning beachball of death. It's just a regular occurance with OSX that you have to get used to.

[SeanMcg]

Has anyone else had the problem where iPhoto appears to start up just fine, bringing up the library, but after a few more seconds it brings up the spinning beachball for about 5 minutes? During this time, the activity monitor does not show ANY CPU activity associated with iPhoto although 3 threads are open. Problem was happening before both iPhoto upgrades.

I am using iPhoto Buddy to manage several different libraries. (The library referenced above only has 252 photos)

I have repaired permissions and killed the requisite files as suggested by Apple.

System Specs: 1 GHz 15" TiBook, 768 MB RAM, 10.3.4, iPhoto 4.0.3

Any ideas?

[~Shard~]

Not sure if this happened to anyone else, but the iPhoto update stopped mid-way and gave me the spinning beach ball of death on my week-old G5. Wouldn't let me force quit or anything, had to hold down the power button to restart. Now it Software Update says there's nothing for me to upgrade. Super.

.narco

Bring on iPhoto 4.0.3.0.5! :cool:

[macmumma]

This update removes pancreatic tumers. :D

[mateybob]

While the topic is about uprades, what version is XCode now. I'm running 1.1 but heard that Apple was supposed to release 1.5 today. I've never been able to download anything from the ADC site, the ftp download never seems to work. Why doesn't Apple provide all of the ADC downloads from the regular downloads site. :mad:

i too cannot download from the ADC ftp site on my mac... HOWEVER i can download from it with no problems using my pc... :eek:
nice work apple.. :rolleyes:

[~Shard~]

This update removes pancreatic tumers. :D

Sigh... obviously you didn't read the other iPhoto thread where another inconsiderate person such as yourself made the same comment. Let me reiterate what I said to him:

Your comment is totally uncalled for and not humorous no matter what anyone's sense of humor might be. Show some respect for Steve and his condition, along with everyone else in his position, many of whom are far, far worse off. There are good people out there with this condition who are going to die gruesome deaths and you try and make light of that? Show some respect and more importantly show some maturity. :mad:

[nagromme]

Too many exciting rumors in Mac-land... heart pounding... sweat pouring... must... calm... down!

EDIT: Still more excitement! (http://www.edheads.org/activities/knee/index.htm) <timmy>I need my pills!</timmy>

[trbeat]

Anyone interested in a web forum dedicated to those using their MAC (New shiny 2.5's) for Audio / video work? It seems there are a bunch of us that do that kind of work ranging from hobby to pro and it may be a nice place where we can share our work and help each other ..

If you are interested then private e-mail me and if there are enough yes's i will get it setup ..

Thanks

OK, it helps if you post this in the right folder .. sorry it people are totally confused by this ...

[Flying Llama]

... I have repaired permissions and killed the requisite files as suggested by Apple. ...


What requisite files? :o

[RqThrottle]

I just upgraded from 4.0.1 to 4.0.3 without any issues. Everything looks great as far as I can tell. Another very happy customer here. :)

[iGuy]

Sigh... obviously you didn't read the other iPhoto thread where another inconsiderate person such as yourself made the same comment. Let me reiterate what I said to him:

Your comment is totally uncalled for and not humorous no matter what anyone's sense of humor might be. Show some respect for Steve and his condition, along with everyone else in his position, many of whom are far, far worse off. There are good people out there with this condition who are going to die gruesome deaths and you try and make light of that? Show some respect and more importantly show some maturity. :mad:

You may feel that this is in poor taste. That is your opinion. It is likely shared by others.

As a cancer survivor myself I see nothing wrong in making light of it. I find that prefferable to all the 'doom and gloom' floating around. I will not speak for Steve but I would be greatly surprised if he didn't agree.

But my point, to be clear, is this: under no circumstances can you say what others find humourous or not. You cannot speak for me. It is you and others like you who are immature. Grow up. Just because you don't like it doesn't give you the right to condem or control others.

Your hollier than thou attitude clearly indicates that you are the immature one. Grow up and stop being so judgemental.

~iGuy

[nagromme]

Humor can be a great way to face bad or fearful things. The fact that Steve's story has a happy ending makes it especially appropriate to speak of with humor. (But I'm not offended by those ARE offended either :) )

[manu chao]

Sigh... obviously you didn't read the other iPhoto thread where another inconsiderate person such as yourself made the same comment. Let me reiterate what I said to him:

Your comment is totally uncalled for and not humorous no matter what anyone's sense of humor might be. Show some respect for Steve and his condition, along with everyone else in his position, many of whom are far, far worse off. There are good people out there with this condition who are going to die gruesome deaths and you try and make light of that? Show some respect and more importantly show some maturity. :mad:

I admire Steve Jobs a lot and kind of like him but I am really surprised how harsh you (and several other people) reacted to these kind of jokes. When I read them, I felt immediately that they are a bit delicate but I did not consider them as completely untasteful.

How many people use phrases like: 'And now your claiming that it cures also cancer?' Anybody who enjoys 'As the Appleturns', should have no problem with jokes in general where annotations are made to sometimes very unpleasant illnesses.

I guess that most Apple fans right now can associate this type of cancer with somebody they know, they have seen at least in videos, somebody they value a lot. That probably makes them more sensitive to jokes about this subject.

And this Black Sense of Humour might anyway be much more of a British thing.

EDIT:
I completely agree with nagromme's post. He expressed my opinion in very nice way.

[narco]

Not sure if this happened to anyone else, but the iPhoto update stopped mid-way and gave me the spinning beach ball of death on my week-old G5. Wouldn't let me force quit or anything, had to hold down the power button to restart. Now it Software Update says there's nothing for me to upgrade. Super.

.narco

Great. Tried to install it manually since it didn't finish upgrading, now it says I do not have iPhoto 4.0 or 4.1 installed in the Applications folder. But I DO! Now my iPhoto quits whenever I open it and only gives some generic message like "this program has unexpectedly quit". No kidding.

It's a good thing I never got too chummy-chummy with iPhoto.

.narco

[iGuy]

Humor can be a great way to face bad or fearful things. The fact that Steve's story has a happy ending makes it especially appropriate to speak of with humor. (But I'm not offended by those ARE offended either :) )

Very nicely said... I'd just like to make it clear that those who are offended have every right to be. However that does not give them the right condem those of us who are NOT offended.

It is the vocal and cutting nature with which they voice their offense that is offensive, not the offense itself.

~iGuy

[Bradley W]

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[brianwells]

i too cannot download from the ADC ftp site on my mac... HOWEVER i can download from it with no problems using my pc... :eek:
nice work apple.. :rolleyes:

Since Xcode 1.2 was so huge (an entire CD!), I downloaded it at work where we have a broadband connection. There is no way I'd pull that down over this 56K modem!

Now that Xcode 1.5 is out, I suppose I'll download it all over again (and the July 2004 documentation set) :cool:

[griz]

I'm a little curious why they would add an update option to the app. Why not just leave it in the OS software update as it worked for these last 2 updates.
I'm curious if Apple users are playing test for a windows version that will be out soon to support the 60GIG photo/video iPod that I also predict we will see. A windows would need to have its own updater built in since it can't use the OS software update. So they put it into the Mac version first. I have no source for this, just speculation.

[~Shard~]

It is you and others like you who are immature. Grow up. Just because you don't like it doesn't give you the right to condem or control others.

Your hollier than thou attitude clearly indicates that you are the immature one. Grow up and stop being so judgemental.

So you're condemning me and calling me immature for condemning others and calling them immature. Well, perhaps I overreacted but at least I'm not a hypocrite. :p ;) Immature? Grow up? You don't know me at all - so now's who being judgemental? ;)

If your sense of humor includes making light of cancer, then so be it. If people find a devastating disease that destroys families humorous, and one that has taken tens of millions of lives, then fine - that's their right and I will not condemn them or be judgemental whatsoever.

I apologize for my original statement regarding senses of humor and will try and be more understanding of what people find funny. Manu Chao and nagromme have raised good points and I did indeed come across as too harsh in my post, and that was not my intention - chalk it up to being in a hurry and typing fast. :cool:

Now, back on topic....

[ryanw]

I'm a little curious why they would add an update option to the app. Why not just leave it in the OS software update as it worked for these last 2 updates.
I'm curious if Apple users are playing test for a windows version that will be out soon to support the 60GIG photo/video iPod that I also predict we will see. A windows would need to have its own updater built in since it can't use the OS software update. So they put it into the Mac version first. I have no source for this, just speculation.

That's a pretty safe bet. There are just a few flaws with this plan. Two different places to update the iPod? Put your photos on with one program and music on with a different one. I guess it makes sense, but iPhoto has nothing to with movies. It seems like movies should be handled through iMovie. But there is no way they're going to give out iMovie for PCs so they are possibily building the functionality that should be in iMovie into iPhoto to have it be the same on Windows and Mac.

But with this step, why doesn't apple just release OSX for Intel cause it looks like each piece of iLife is slowly going to goto Windows to try to sell more macs. I wonder how much longer this strategy is going to last. Maybe Apple is switching mentality. They're making more money than ever selling iPods. Maybe they'll sell OSX for intel to sell more iPods, screw focusing on macs.

[stoid]

I'm complaining because Apple has a ****ty history of not publishing what fixes do... isn't that what I said in my post? duh...

What do you want? "Changed code in line 846 of sub-routine that caused minor hang errors on quitting the app"? They didn't explain anything because there was nothing to explain. If it didn't work, you already knew the problem. Now that problem is gone. If it worked all along, you probably don't give a flaming crap that the problem you didn't have was fixed. By not explaining, Apple saved many users a good deal of time by not making them read **** that they didn't need to know or care about. No conspiracy, the world is not out to get you. Sorry to bust your bubble there.

[Counterfit]

After reading here, and other places, I have come to the conclusion that 4.0.2 didn't break anything, they just forgot to put something in there. ;)

[AmigoMac]

I'm a little curious why they would add an update option to the app. Why not just leave it in the OS software update as it worked for these last 2 updates.
I'm curious if Apple users are playing test for a windows version that will be out soon to support the 60GIG photo/video iPod that I also predict we will see. A windows would need to have its own updater built in since it can't use the OS software update. So they put it into the Mac version first. I have no source for this, just speculation.

Damn ! You said it first, yeah! MWSF 05 , PhotoPod :p

I see 4.0.3 a bit slower than 4.0.2 when changing from "organize" to "edit" modus :confused: but a lot faster to start up... quitting remains the same...

[voodoofish]

Wow—at this rate we'll be at iPhoto 5 any day now! :) / :rolleyes:

They should say what the problem is, and it should automatically update from 4.0.2 (someone earlier says it doesn't notify you an update's available).

I doubt most users go to Apple Discussions or MacRumors to find out if the update they just installed yesterday already needs to be updated again. And how many "regular" people run Software Update everyday?

Well lots if it's been set to automatically do it in the background (though by default doesn't it check once a week rather than once a day?) but mine still hasn't popped up to tell me there's an update :(

[gorkonapple]

Since Xcode 1.2 was so huge (an entire CD!), I downloaded it at work where we have a broadband connection. There is no way I'd pull that down over this 56K modem!

Now that Xcode 1.5 is out, I suppose I'll download it all over again (and the July 2004 documentation set) :cool:

Xcode 1.5 is out?? :eek: Wow. Two updates of iPhoto and a update of Xcode. Cool. Downloading Xcode now. I don't use it much yet (still teaching myself), but of what I have learned thus far programming in Cocoa and Objective C is pretty easy compared to other languages. :eek:

[Windowlicker]

Not sure if this happened to anyone else, but the iPhoto update stopped mid-way and gave me the spinning beach ball of death on my week-old G5. Wouldn't let me force quit or anything, had to hold down the power button to restart. Now it Software Update says there's nothing for me to upgrade. Super.

.narco

does the iphoto app say it's 4.0.3? if not, download the updater from web or reset your software updates history and try installing it again the way you prefer.

if it is 4.0.3, download the updater from web, and if it doesn't work, trash the iphoto app, reinstall it and then update. your photo library and preferences should stay as they were.

[davecuse]

Wow, 7.1 MB, they must've really screwed up 4.0.2 for the 4.0.3 updater to be that big! :eek:

It's a cumulative update, it has to include all updates made from 4.0 on. That's why the OS upgrades get larger and larger over time.

[ClimbingTheLog]

Wow, 7.1 MB, they must've really screwed up 4.0.2 for the 4.0.3 updater to be that big! :eek:

My main beef with Software Update is that it doesn't support binary patching. If they update a 7.1MB file by one byte you download 7.1MB.

Since everybody in the Cupertino area has broadband at home the rest of the world does too, right?

Back in the day PatchMaker and InstallerVice made some wonderfully small patches on OS9. Sure the resource database was handy buy there's probably some way to do it with Mach-O that noone's utilized yet. Objective-C will be easier than C++ since it's linked dynamically.

[ClimbingTheLog]

Your comment is totally uncalled for and not humorous no matter what anyone's sense of humor might be

I didn't think it was funny either, but one thing you'll learn is that there are enough people in the world that a few are bound to find any one thing funny. Have you ever seen Japanese TV? Holy cow, that's not funny but it has the nation in stitches. Some people didn't find Eddie Murphy's skits funny in the 80's about Mr. T's back door adventures with Jackie Gleason. Other people pissed themselves laughing.

Canadians seem to think putting men in dresses and acting out skits is funny. Whatever.

The only thing most of the world can agree on is it doesn't like when people say, "hey, don't say that, it's not funny. Be more Politically Correct."

[ClimbingTheLog]

And how many "regular" people run Software Update everyday?

Default OS X install runs it once a week.

[SiliconAddict]

Glad to see Apple get this little snaggle behind them.

Yah we can now move on to the next buggy update. :rolleyes: This is becoming a very disturbing trend from Apple. :(

[myapplseedshurt]

My main beef with Software Update is that it doesn't support binary patching. If they update a 7.1MB file by one byte you download 7.1MB.

Since everybody in the Cupertino area has broadband at home the rest of the world does too, right?

Back in the day PatchMaker and InstallerVice made some wonderfully small patches on OS9. Sure the resource database was handy buy there's probably some way to do it with Mach-O that noone's utilized yet. Objective-C will be easier than C++ since it's linked dynamically.

I have to agree with you... I don't own an apple yet, so I am forced to do weekly updates to win2k, and that pretty much forced me to get a cable modem. I hate paying $60 for a connection whose sole purpose is to keep my POS pc running.

[joeboy_45101]

Xcode 1.5 is out?? :eek: Wow. Two updates of iPhoto and a update of Xcode. Cool. Downloading Xcode now. I don't use it much yet (still teaching myself), but of what I have learned thus far programming in Cocoa and Objective C is pretty easy compared to other languages. :eek:

I've had a few problems using Xcode to write code. I have some C++ homework and thought Xcode would be perfect, I am used to working with Visual Studio and thought it was time for a change. I keep getting compiler errors when I try to use a void main(), I also cannot get the screen to pause by using system("PAUSE");. I'm using the C++ Tool since I thought that was most appropriate, now I'm questioning that. Like I said I have been using Visual Studio but would like to move to Xcode.

[Porchland]

Humor can be a great way to face bad or fearful things. The fact that Steve's story has a happy ending makes it especially appropriate to speak of with humor. (But I'm not offended by those ARE offended either :) )

For the record, I'm not offended by those who ARE offended by those who are NOT offended.

[SiliconAddict]

What do you want? "Changed code in line 846 of sub-routine that caused minor hang errors on quitting the app"? They didn't explain anything because there was nothing to explain.


BS. You are speculating as to WHY they pulled it. There isn't anything documenting a high level reason.

support.microsoft.com

Complain all you like about Microsoft they document the hell out of their patches and updates assuming you know how to navigate around their knowledgebase. List most of MS's stuff its not very intuitive. Any type of update that is released they document exactly what it is, what it does, and what it fixes and if there are subsequent fixes for the original patch the site documents why they need to revisit the issue and typically a link to the original web page for the patch not this delete the patch off the site and replace it with a NEW patch crap. Occasionally corp politics gets mixed into the updates. (No company wants to look like a bunch of idiots for a blunder F, then again you'd think MS would have gotten use to that image by now.) But for the most part from an IT perspective their documentation is only surpassed by Linux and other *nix varients.
So far I'm not at all impressed by Apple and their updates, their documentation, and their methodology for releasing their updates. Again how many updates in the last year have been pulled hours after release? I know of 1 that has been pulled by MS over the last 3 years. NOT cool. Not cool at all. Apple's kung fu needs to be better, stronger, and quicker then Microsoft's and right now, IMHO, this kind of screw up doesn't make me much of a believer.

[JayBee]

The first rule of iPhoto 4.0.2 is... you do not talk about iPhoto 4.0.2.

The SECOND rule of iPhoto 4.0.2 is...

[Snowy_River]

First, in point of fact, the joke made on the other thread was different. That joke was that iPhoto 4.0.2 caused cancer, and that's why they pulled it, whereas this joke was that 4.0.3 cured cancer. A bit of a difference there.

Now, as someone who's dealt with cancer many times (I've lost two grandparents, a step-father, an aunt, and two good friends to various kinds of cancer), I feel somewhat qualified to voice an opinion here. In general, I don't find 'cures cancer' jokes to be in terribly bad taste. In this case it seemed a little close to home with SJ, but it certainly had a reasonable share of an 'approach life with a smile' attitude. The 'causes cancer' jokes, I think, ought to be approached more cautiously. The one in the previous thread did seem to me to be in bad taste, again significantly because of being close to home.

However, not all such jokes are, necessarily, in bad taste. It is always good to keep an open mind, IMO, and try to laugh when you can. Here's a poem I wrote a few years ago that seems somewhat applicable:

Life is for Laughing!

Life is for laughing,
Life is for playing,
Life is for running and having some fun!

Life is for living,
Life is for loving.
Tell me, tell me, have you begun?

A life without laughing,
A life without loving,
A life without running and playing and such,

Is a life that is diing,
A life that is ending,
A life that doesn’t ammount to much.

On topic: I haven't had any problems with either 4.0.2 or 4.0.3. I guess I've been lucky.

"This just in... it's recently been confirmed that research causes cancer in rats. Film at 11." ;)

[Porchland]

The first rule of iPhoto 4.0.2 is... you do not talk about iPhoto 4.0.2.

The SECOND rule of iPhoto 4.0.2 is...


Friends episode: The One About iPhoto 4.0.2

[JW Pepper]

Each time Apple releases a ner version of iPhoto I wait with baited breath to see how fast it will run. On each and every occasion I find it just isnt a patch on Photopresenter. Why on earth doesn't Apple have a look at how they have made their application so fast and incorporate the same methodology into iPhoto. The fact that iPhoto is so slow is a constant pain to me.

Photo Presenter can be found here. (http://www.curvuspro.ch/photopresenter/en/index.html)

[jcshas]

Installed it on my iBook G4 800 - no difference for me. iPhoto still takes 10-15 sec. to close. :(

[MacFan26]

Why on earth doesn't Apple have a look at how they have made their application so fast and incorporate the same methodology into iPhoto. The fact that iPhoto is so slow is a constant pain to me.[/URL]
Because then there would be a couple of mile long threads of people complaining that Apple copied from Photo Presenter. :eek: ;)

Just installed the update, works fine as I'm aware. Hopefully I won't be having to install another one in a few days.

[titaniumducky]

iPhoto 4.0.3 caused serious problems for me. It couldn't find the library, so I quit and then reopened it. This time it upgraded the library and then just never left the "loading photos" screen.

I had to uninstall and reinstall iPhoto, but then it wouldn't recognize my pictures (which I could open in Preview). For this I had to move all the photos to one folder and import them from there (I know - strange).

Finally I had to recreate all my albums.

At least none of my pictures were lost (though they're all backed up).

[lasuther]

Its shows up in software updater, but when I try to download it I get a not connected error even though I'm connected.

Its probably a good thing, it would probably kill my photo collection. I guess I'll wait a few more days and see if its up and running.

lasuther

[millhouse]

ok this whole update thing jacked my system, i made a backup of my photo library before hand incase it went array, which it did, then when i try to restore from that, i find that there are photos missing, mainly everything so far form august and some of june (which has been quite a bit), in the 2004 folder the months only go up to 7, i have no idea where my august photos went and wonder is there anyway to hunt them down, where might they have gone?

[spikymohawks]

Got it awsome safe update.

[fatfish]

ok this whole update thing jacked my system, i made a backup of my photo library before hand incase it went array, which it did, then when i try to restore from that, i find that there are photos missing, mainly everything so far form august and some of june (which has been quite a bit), in the 2004 folder the months only go up to 7, i have no idea where my august photos went and wonder is there anyway to hunt them down, where might they have gone?

Go File/Find in the finder menu and modify your search accordingly.

[toughboy]

well.. just like 0.2, the 4.0.3 doesnt work with me because they both want 4.0.1 to be installed before they are installed in the system. and the main problem is, whenever I install 4.0.1 on my 4.0, all the transactions in the slideshow are gone, and there is nothing like "cube" or "mozaic" or anything else.. I guess I'll be waiting for a "major update" to update my iPhoto...

[joe877]

From what I've read online, usually when people have weird, unexpected problems with updates, it's because they downloaded the program from someone or otherwise installed it in a manner that didn't correctly set the permissions originally. Food for thought. ;)

For what it's worth, the upgrade went fine for me. Went from 4.0.2 (thankfully, it looks like they made it close faster.)

[wdlove]

The safe think is to download using software update. After installation to run repair permissions from the Utilities.

[rikers_mailbox]

From what I've read online, usually when people have weird, unexpected problems with updates, it's because they downloaded the program from someone or otherwise installed it in a manner that didn't correctly set the permissions originally. Food for thought. ;)

hmm, i find this really interesting. can you point me to where i can read more about this?? not that i don't believe you, but i see a alot of power in this if Apple decides to care about licensing and software copy protection.

thanks. -rik

[joe877]

hmm, i find this really interesting. can you point me to where i can read more about this?? not that i don't believe you, but i see a alot of power in this if Apple decides to care about licensing and software copy protection.

I read it on Macintouch back when people were experiencing the generic application icon after upgrading to iPhoto 4.0.1:

For those people experiencing the generic iPhoto and failure to launch after updating iPhoto to 4.0.1, the problem is permissions. More importantly, this is caused by people having used some means to install 4.0 other than the iLife CD/DVD. When iPhoto is simply copied from another computer or, ahem, downloaded off the net, then the permissions don't get set up correctly inside the app. When the 4.0.1 updater runs, it changes ownership of some of the files back to root/admin, but doesn't otherwise change the access permissions. For files that were readable only by the owner, they are now locked out. The Apple Repair Permissions utility cannot help in these cases because, since iPhoto was never installed, there is no receipt in /Library/Receipts. A receipt is how Repair Permissions knows what to do to fix things.

Bottom line: Don't copy iPhoto from another computer to install it, but instead use the iLife CD/DVD. In all cases, that will set things up correctly for the 4.0.1 updater.

[iProbot]

Installed it on my iBook G4 800 - no difference for me. iPhoto still takes 10-15 sec. to close. :(

With my old school iMac DV 500Mhz / 512MB Ram, after clicking on the iPhoto icon, it opens in 4 seconds (including the loading of over 2000 photos) and closing iPhoto only takes less than 2 seconds!
Who says you need a 3Gig G5 nowadays?

:)

[manu chao]

Installed it on my iBook G4 800 - no difference for me. iPhoto still takes 10-15 sec. to close.

With my old school iMac DV 500Mhz / 512MB Ram, after clicking on the iPhoto icon, it opens in 4 seconds (including the loading of over 2000 photos) and closing iPhoto only takes less than 2 seconds!
Who says you need a 3Gig G5 nowadays?

:)

Maybe the slower harddrive of the iBook explains some of that difference. On my 1Ghz TiBook the harddrive is really the slowest component.