View Full Version : Oh good grief! Mayor claims Obama purposely blocked "Peanuts"
Thomas Veil
Dec 5, 2009, 08:43 PM
You ready for your holiday jollies? Get a load of this one (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/05/politics/main5901552.shtml):
(CBS/AP) A small town mayor is under fire for what he wrote about the President online.
Mayor Russell Wiseman of Arlington called President Obama a Muslim on his Facebook page, attacked Obama's supporters, and said the president's primetime address on Tuesday about the U.S. military's strategy in Afghanistan was a deliberate effort to block the airing of the cartoon "A Charlie Brown Christmas."
The Commercial Appeal reported Wiseman's comments, posted on his Facebook page, which included the claim that the president is Muslim.
Mr. Obama is Christian.
According to the newspaper, the mayor's first posting read, "Ok, so, this is total crap, we sit the kids down to watch 'The Charlie Brown Christmas Special' and our muslim president is there, what a load.....try to convince me that wasn't done on purpose. Ask the man if he believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and he will give you a 10 minute disertation (sic) about it....w...hen the answer should simply be 'yes'...."
In another posting Wiseman attacked the President, his supporters and Muslims, by saying "...you obama people need to move to a muslim country...oh wait, that's America....pitiful."
Area voter Jeff Shackelford told CBS Affiliate WREG that the President of the United States had "more important things to be thinking about instead of trying to block Charlie Brown on TV."
Ryan Williams told WREG, "I just think it's ridiculous that people blow stuff like this way out of proportion. He's trying to lead a country, not change religious values here."
Wiseman downplayed the posting when contacted by the newspaper Thursday. He did not immediately return media phone calls. Hey Lucy...I think you have a customer.
http://www.schulzmuseum.org/images/lucy-psychbooth.jpg
ucfgrad93
Dec 5, 2009, 09:49 PM
Ok, this guy is just an idiot.
IntheNet
Dec 5, 2009, 09:50 PM
"Mr. Obama is Christian."
I'll give the president a pass on pre-empting Charlie Brown but the jury is still out on the bold claim above...
That-Is-Bull
Dec 5, 2009, 10:40 PM
I'll give the president a pass on pre-empting Charlie Brown but the jury is still out on the bold claim above...
Why does it even matter?
quagmire
Dec 5, 2009, 10:52 PM
Because muslim=terrorist, didn't you get the memo?
:rolleyes:
Rt&Dzine
Dec 5, 2009, 10:54 PM
I'll give the president a pass on pre-empting Charlie Brown but the jury is still out on the bold claim above...
Good Grief! First you're deciding who aren't "real" conservatives and who aren't "real" Americans, and now you're deciding who's not a Christian.
abijnk
Dec 5, 2009, 10:58 PM
Why does it even matter?
This is the question I would love to see answered...
nullx86
Dec 5, 2009, 11:03 PM
lol, im on the fence on this one, but still... nice timing on the broadcasting...
Good Grief! First you're deciding who aren't "real" conservatives and who aren't "real" Americans, and now you're deciding who's not a Christian.
The more extreme the xian right gets, the more they think they've co-opted god and are cop, jury, judge and executioner all rolled up in one. The Founding Fathers are surely rolling in their graves.
zap2
Dec 5, 2009, 11:39 PM
I'll give the president a pass on pre-empting Charlie Brown but the jury is still out on the bold claim above...
No its not. And more importantly..who cares??!?
As an Atheist, who cares? Policy should reflect a clean separation of church and state.
jmann
Dec 5, 2009, 11:45 PM
Buy the damn movie on DVD.
Counterfit
Dec 6, 2009, 12:57 AM
Article six states The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Rampant.A.I.
Dec 6, 2009, 03:09 AM
Ok, this guy is just an idiot.
That's way past being an idiot, and deep into paranoid delusions of persecution.
I'll give the president a pass on pre-empting Charlie Brown but the jury is still out on the bold claim above...
And? Would it matter if he were Hare Krishna, or do you not believe in freedom of religion and separation of church and state?
bradl
Dec 6, 2009, 03:28 AM
Article six states
Well said. Someone needs to slap this mayor upside the head with this and tell him to read it or go back to school. Even the ordinary 8th grader who is learning this understands the Constitution better than this fool of a mayor.
And InTheNet, I suggest you read the Constitution before making such bold (and very stupid) comments like yours above, or better yet, do yourself and us a favour and pull a Johnny Depp: If you don't like it, LEAVE THE COUNTRY, and don't come back until Obama's term(s) is/are over.
But I digress; you must know oh so much better than the Founding Fathers who wrote the very laws that you abide by.
BL.
Thomas Veil
Dec 6, 2009, 06:17 AM
I have to admit, when I posted this, I didn't think we'd focus on the Muslim part. I thought we'd get maybe six variations of "This guy's an idiot," with a few humorous Peanuts references thrown in. :D
But we're all so serious these days. I agree, Obama's religion makes no difference, though I'm more offended at the way this joker says Obama is Muslim. That's a double-dipper insult: get the President's religion wrong, and imply that there's something wrong with being Muslim.
The article says the mayor is entitled to say anything he wants on his Facebook page...and yeah, he is. But when voters read ridiculous stuff like that, they'll probably vote him out in the next election. In my small town, we also have a mayor given to making petulant, stupid remarks against people, and last month residents voted to give the job to someone else. :)
Queso
Dec 6, 2009, 06:23 AM
The more extreme the xian right gets, the more they think they've co-opted god and are cop, jury, judge and executioner all rolled up in one. The Founding Fathers are surely rolling in their graves.
Or like the rest of us rolling in the aisles. These GOP idiots are getting truly hilarious :D
rdowns
Dec 6, 2009, 08:05 AM
I truly fear for my country.
Eraserhead
Dec 6, 2009, 10:35 AM
lol, im on the fence on this one, but still... nice timing on the broadcasting...
Why the need to be "on the fence" this guy is obviously a joker.
rdowns
Dec 6, 2009, 11:38 AM
Good. We don't need Peppermint Patty and Marcy pushing their radical lesbianism on our children.
Not to mention Snoopy, constantly decorating and re-decorating his dog house and his fetish for the Red Baron.
Don't even get me started with Linus and Schroeder.
Rt&Dzine
Dec 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
Good. We don't need Peppermint Patty and Marcy pushing their radical lesbianism on our children.
Not to mention Snoopy, constantly decorating and re-decorating his dog house and his fetish for the Red Baron.
Don't even get me started with Linus and Schroeder.
And Pig-Pen . . . dirty heathen!
bradl
Dec 6, 2009, 04:29 PM
And Pig-Pen . . . dirty heathen!
I'm surprised ReRun from "What's Happening?" didn't sue Schulz for the rights to his name.
BL.
bradl
Dec 6, 2009, 06:26 PM
I have to admit, when I posted this, I didn't think we'd focus on the Muslim part. I thought we'd get maybe six variations of "This guy's an idiot," with a few humorous Peanuts references thrown in. :D
But we're all so serious these days. I agree, Obama's religion makes no difference, though I'm more offended at the way this joker says Obama is Muslim. That's a double-dipper insult: get the President's religion wrong, and imply that there's something wrong with being Muslim.
And a costly one at that, especially if litigations get involved.
The article says the mayor is entitled to say anything he wants on his Facebook page...and yeah, he is. But when voters read ridiculous stuff like that, they'll probably vote him out in the next election. In my small town, we also have a mayor given to making petulant, stupid remarks against people, and last month residents voted to give the job to someone else. :)
To an extent, he is entitled to say anything he wants. Keep in mind that the 1st Amendment states that Congress shall pass no law infringing on the right to free speech. That doesn't mean everyone gets carte blanche to say anything they want and expect to get away with it. In this case, this idiot mayor just opened himself up to a good amount of libel suits, should Obama and/or anyone on his behalf decides to sue.
It's one thing to go after someone for who or what he/she is and what they've done; it's something completely different when you spread falsehoods about who or what someone is. And being in a political position himself, this mayor should have known better. I'd suspect that the POTUS' spokesperson may say something about this, but Obama himself will take the high road, leaving the people to know what this idiot has done.
This may be the end of his political career (and deservedly so).
BL.
freeny
Dec 6, 2009, 09:30 PM
Why do republicans hate America so much?
bradl
Dec 6, 2009, 09:36 PM
Why do republicans hate America so much?
Because they are being sore losers from the fact that they got completely pwned in the 2008 elections. They can't handle accepting the reasons they lost, and have to find something/someone to blame.. even if it goes as far as fanaticism.
BL.
Zombie Acorn
Dec 6, 2009, 09:37 PM
Because they are being sore losers from the fact that they got completely pwned in the 2008 elections. They can't handle accepting the reasons they lost, and have to find something/someone to blame.. even if it goes as far as fanaticism.
BL.
The race was pretty close for having to run after one of our worst presidents in history.
quagmire
Dec 6, 2009, 10:04 PM
The race was pretty close for having to run after one of our worst presidents in history.
Basing it the percent of the popular vote, yes it was pretty close( 52%/48% I believe right?).
Electoral votes though was a blow out.
Tesselator
Dec 7, 2009, 02:04 AM
You ready for your holiday jollies? Get a load of this one (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/05/politics/main5901552.shtml):
(CBS/AP) A small town mayor is under fire for what he wrote about the President online.
Mayor Russell Wiseman of Arlington called President Obama a Muslim on his Facebook page, attacked Obama's supporters, and said the president's primetime address on Tuesday about the U.S. military's strategy in Afghanistan was a deliberate effort to block the airing of the cartoon "A Charlie Brown Christmas."
The Commercial Appeal reported Wiseman's comments, posted on his Facebook page, which included the claim that the president is Muslim.
Mr. Obama is Christian.
According to the newspaper, the mayor's first posting read, "Ok, so, this is total crap, we sit the kids down to watch 'The Charlie Brown Christmas Special' and our muslim president is there, what a load.....try to convince me that wasn't done on purpose. Ask the man if he believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and he will give you a 10 minute disertation (sic) about it....w...hen the answer should simply be 'yes'...."
In another posting Wiseman attacked the President, his supporters and Muslims, by saying "...you obama people need to move to a muslim country...oh wait, that's America....pitiful."
Area voter Jeff Shackelford told CBS Affiliate WREG that the President of the United States had "more important things to be thinking about instead of trying to block Charlie Brown on TV."
Ryan Williams told WREG, "I just think it's ridiculous that people blow stuff like this way out of proportion. He's trying to lead a country, not change religious values here."
Wiseman downplayed the posting when contacted by the newspaper Thursday. He did not immediately return media phone calls.
Hey Lucy...I think you have a customer.
http://www.schulzmuseum.org/images/lucy-psychbooth.jpg
I can see or agree with the red remarks. The alternative media (often the only ones trustworthy) have repeated this very rhetoric endlessly. If it's true (which I believe it is - or was at one time in that past) then the good Mayor is erring primarily just visa sentence tense. If it's not true (that Obama is Muslim or was in the past) then it just goes to show that some Mayors don't do their due-diligence before accepting something as being true. In the later case the "blame" if there is any (technically and I think legally), falls on the rumor-starter - with his comments to be proven or disproven in court.
To me it's no big deal and it's a total non-issue. It's just another "topic of confusion" as there is nothing at all about the personal life of the president that needs to be or that's useful to, question. It's all about what he does as president and not his non-political life. Things like this (or many of them hitting the presses all in a short period of time) are typically methodically intended. Usually to cause a diversion from something more important. Other times it's to "focus" [divert] public sentiment. It's a similar technique to running vote and opinion splitting opponents in an election - they can "steer" some percentages of one or more demographic in one direction or another or cause "topics of confusion" that don't belong in government at the federal level at all.
I especially think that this is a "topic of confusion" because the whole "let's demonize Muslims" thing has been proven to be a Federal and Shadow government (Alphabet organizations) propaganda campaign that has been in use for more than half a century. The green remarks may also mean that the Mayor himself has bought into this propaganda - either that or he's part of it. ;)
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