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Sayhey
Aug 6, 2004, 01:58 PM
I'm of the opinion that artists have every right to speak their conscience, but I don't usually give them anymore weight than anyone else. However, when Bruce Springsteen breaks his reticence to participate in partisan politics and speaks out, it is something about which to sit up and take notice. For those that missed it, here is his editorial in the NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/05/opinion/05bruce.html).

A nation's artists and musicians have a particular place in its social and political life. Over the years I've tried to think long and hard about what it means to be American: about the distinctive identity and position we have in the world, and how that position is best carried. I've tried to write songs that speak to our pride and criticize our failures.

These questions are at the heart of this election: who we are, what we stand for, why we fight. Personally, for the last 25 years I have always stayed one step away from partisan politics. Instead, I have been partisan about a set of ideals: economic justice, civil rights, a humane foreign policy, freedom and a decent life for all of our citizens. This year, however, for many of us the stakes have risen too high to sit this election out.

Through my work, I've always tried to ask hard questions. Why is it that the wealthiest nation in the world finds it so hard to keep its promise and faith with its weakest citizens? Why do we continue to find it so difficult to see beyond the veil of race? How do we conduct ourselves during difficult times without killing the things we hold dear? Why does the fulfillment of our promise as a people always seem to be just within grasp yet forever out of reach?

I don't think John Kerry and John Edwards have all the answers. I do believe they are sincerely interested in asking the right questions and working their way toward honest solutions. They understand that we need an administration that places a priority on fairness, curiosity, openness, humility, concern for all America's citizens, courage and faith....



IJ Reilly
Aug 6, 2004, 02:51 PM
Excellent. Very thoughtful and well-written. He's going to come under full-scale attack from the Right for speaking out, but I'm sure he knew that in advance.

friarbayliff
Aug 6, 2004, 02:55 PM
Good - I like to see some backbone in this world of mixed messages and political semantics.

IJ Reilly
Aug 7, 2004, 01:25 AM
Uhh, Bruce was promoting Bill Clinton during concerts years ago. Him participating in promoting the democratic party isn't anything new.

Link, please.

IJ Reilly
Aug 7, 2004, 12:21 PM
What I am saying, is for Bruce to lie about his political involvement right at the beginning doesn't speak highly of his character.

IOW, you can't prove your allegation, so the person you accuse is the liar. Nice try.

pseudobrit
Aug 7, 2004, 12:46 PM
Quote from B.S. the other day.



Quote from B.S. Sept 15th 2003



So B.S. says that he has always stayed away from partisan politics....

So what? He's still talking about the current president. What difference does it make if it was 10 months ago or 10 days ago?

IJ Reilly
Aug 7, 2004, 01:07 PM
So what? He's still talking about the current president. What difference does it make if it was 10 months ago or 10 days ago?

BTW, this is nothing more than an alleged quote. The source is NewsMax.

Although he's rarely been quoted speaking to them directly, how Springsteen felt about these issues has always been clear, to those who listen closely to his lyrics. Now he's decided to meet these issues head-on, instead of obliquely. Accordingly, it becomes essential for the Right to discredit him, to call him a liar about something, however trivial.

For those who don't have a subscription to the NYT web site, here's the closing paragraph from his editorial:

It is through the truthful exercising of the best of human qualities - respect for others, honesty about ourselves, faith in our ideals - that we come to life in God's eyes. It is how our soul, as a nation and as individuals, is revealed. Our American government has strayed too far from American values. It is time to move forward. The country we carry in our hearts is waiting.

Leo Hubbard
Aug 7, 2004, 02:41 PM
Bruce Sprinsteain says impeach Bush September 15, 2003 (http://www.celebrityhypocrites.com/bspringsteen.html)

1992 interview (http://home.theboots.net/theboots/articles/musn1192.html)


Different Bruce quotes goin back to 2003 (http://www.famousidiot.com/index.php?celebrity_id=69)
More bruce comments going back to 2002 (http://www.liberalartists.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=topics&viewcat=bruce_springsteen)

I can't find a web link to the concert comment, but I think it happened during the Clinton v. Dole Election.

What I am saying, is for Bruce to lie about his political involvement right at the beginning doesn't speak highly of his character.

In my opinion, however, this is not an ideological war between liberals and conservatives. But let's at least agree that over the years most fans have grown to realize that Bruce's politics tend to lean left. We all know the story of how Reagan tried to co-opt Bruce's Born in the U.S.A. image for his 1984 campaign. Springsteen had his say a few days later from the stage in Pittsburgh. Before delivering a powerful "Johnny 99," he wondered "what [Reagan’s] favorite album must've been. I don't think it was the Nebraska album. I don't think he's been listening to this one."

Seven years ago, Springsteen expressed his personal political views during the 1996 campaign in California. He lent his voice, name, and time in an effort to defeat Proposition 209, a ballot initiative which was seen as a backhanded attempt to end affirmative action in that state. Attending a Los Angeles rally in late October of that year, he took the podium after the Rev. Jesse Jackson. Prior to playing "The Promised Land" he said, "I am here today because I believe it is very important to stop Proposition 209 in California. It's not a race and colorblind country -- if you think so, then there’s a job for you over in Disneyland. Affirmative action has been an effective tool since the beginning." The people of California liked the music but not the words; the measure passed by an almost two-to-one margin. Bruce Springsteen resumed his tour in support of The Ghost of Tom Joad the following night.

Many took his participation -- his taking-a-stand-activism -- as some kind of "final clue" that Bruce Springsteen had come out of the liberal closet and was ready to throw his heavyweight starpower around in support of all kinds of liberal causes.
http://www.backstreets.com/mag78OTB.html

He doesn't seem real big into politics, he just slips up occasionally, guess he decided to jump into the deep end this time.

Neserk
Aug 7, 2004, 07:35 PM
I'm happy to see famous people give voice to my opinions on people like Dubya.

Point 1) they have the right to freedom of speech just like I do.

Point 2) they have a platform that I don't so that is why I'm happy to see it.

MattG
Aug 9, 2004, 12:41 PM
They're doing a whole series of concerts in support of ousting Bush. Good stuff.

I for one will be trying to get tickets to see James Taylor and the 'Chicks.

http://www.moveon.org