Google Releases Chrome for Mac Beta

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/03/google-releases-chrome-for-mac-beta/)


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/12/08/103804-google_chrome_mac.png

As anticipated (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/11/30/chrome-beta-for-mac-nearly-ready-for-launch-but-some-features-postponed/), Google has finally released (http://www.google.com/chrome/) an official beta version of its Chrome browser for Mac. The initial beta version, termed Build 4.0.249.30, requires Mac OS X Leopard or Snow Leopard, and is only compatible with Intel-based Macs.

While developer builds (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/05/developer-builds-of-google-chrome-for-os-x-and-linux-now-available/) of Chrome have been available for nearly six months, only now does Google consider it full-featured enough and stable enough to promote to its "Beta" release channel. Work will continue on Chrome with additional Developer Preview releases occurring on a regular basis. Refined versions will then periodically (approximately monthly) be released as new additions to Chrome's Beta channel. Releases will eventually make their way to Chrome's "Stable" channel, which will offer "rock solid" performance without the inclusion of features still under development and testing.

Chrome for Windows launched (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/01/google-to-launch-webkit-based-web-browser-called-chrome/) as a beta version in September 2008, with Google co-founder Sergey Brin admitting (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/04/google-cofounder-on-lack-of-mac-chrome-browser-its-embarrassing/) only days later that the lack of a Mac version at the time was "embarrassing". At the time, he hoped that a Mac version would be available in only a "matter of months", and the company announced (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/13/mac-version-of-googles-chrome-browser-due-1st-half-of-2009/) in January that it was targeting a Mac release for the first half of 2009. While developer versions of Chrome did appear within that timeframe, it has taken an additional six months for developers to sufficiently refine it to be considered a beta release for more general consumption.

Article Link: Google Releases Chrome for Mac Beta (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/03/google-releases-chrome-for-mac-beta/)

[Jolly Jimmy]

Shall check it out.

The private browsing/incognito page is quite funny.

I can't seem to access some options in Preferences > Under the Hood, like turning off auto opening certain file types.

Anyone else?

[nonocei]

Awesome. Can't wait to try it out right now!

[Airforcekid]

Will try it but going to be very very hard to ditch Safari. Didnt the guy on the Boxee livecast have chrome on his Macbook?


UPDATE: So far Safari wins however testing on Linux is much better than firefox. There are adblocking extensions that work better than ad block plus. Also enable google DNS made my connection more reactive.

[miketcool]

My Waves are squished! They look nicer on Firefox and Safari...

[adztaylor]

Sweet! Off to download! :)

[Warbrain]

I'll have to play with it when I get home.

[2992]

how about if you gonna stop posting "I will download" and "downloading now", and post some thoughts on how it actually work and what you think about it, huh?

[Ryan Trevisol]

Cool but I'm surprised/disappointed that my Developer Preview that I've been using didn't automatically detect this and update me.

Oh well, at least it's out, I've been loving the dev preview but it's a bit unstable.

[adztaylor]

Hmmmm, seems very sluggish to me at loading web pages, and it's really jolty on YouTube running a HD video. Think I'll stick with Safari.

[ipoppy]

Hmm..not much difference in speed by naked eye. But still Safari design is slicker for some reason. I wonder why Chrome disabled full screen option, which would be very nice feature to see in Safari too. And where is privacy browsing? ;)

[MattJessop]

I've been using the developer previews of this for some while, which have been more than stable enough for me to use. I wasn't aware it hadn't even reached beta yet, which is a testament to both my ignorance, and the good work that Google did with it.

Having said that, I'm still not yet ready to ditch Safari just yet, but Chrome is a very very good alternative (Firefox and Opera I consider too slow on OS X, though the windows versions are fantastic). I do like Camino, but the interface seems a little off and unintuitive to me.

[felt.]

useless until an adblock extension works with it :o

[Dwalls90]

Seems to be pretty fast for me, arguably as fast as Safari. Great first attempt and great port.

[Mr Fish]

how about if you gonna stop posting "I will download" and "downloading now", and post some thoughts on how it actually work and what you think about it, huh?

Someone's on the rags.

[heisetax]

how about if you gonna stop posting "I will download" and "downloading now", and post some thoughts on how it actually work and what you think about it, huh?

How about you posting something yourself?

I used the developer version. It was as stable as Safari & FireFox. It reminds me of Flock.

Why if you use Chrome must you stop using Safari or FireFox. Just use them all. Usually one does a better job on certain things than another one does. Just use the one that is best for that particular job.

Now to read more posts of those that say that they will download Chrome & those that complain about it. Just download it, try it & tell us both good & bad what you think about it. If you are truthful it won't all be good or all be bad.

[brsboarder]

how about if you gonna stop posting "I will download" and "downloading now", and post some thoughts on how it actually work and what you think about it, huh?

How bout you relax or download it for yourself. People will write reviews soon enough. Why post a review after 1 min of playing with it

guess I was a little late with this response. Stupid iPod touch

[Xavier]

It really doesn't seem any different than Safari to me, in terms of speed.

[Jolly Jimmy]

useless until an adblock extension works with it :o

It seems to be working fine with glimmerblocker.

[Tilpots]

Just downloaded. It made Safari snappier.:confused:


Being silly, BTW.

[RogueWarrior65]

It's a browser. Who cares? It's one step removed from another iPhone flashlight app, IMHO.

[NeuralControl]

It's doubtful that I would ditch Safari for Chrome, but I definitely will download the Beta tonight. I'm looking forward to comparing the two.

[*LTD*]

Feels as fast as Safari. I like the Tabs on top, they're easy to distinguish. It's nowhere near as elegant as Safari, however. The favicons on the Bookmarks bar ruin the look, although they do aid the eye in differentiating the the bookmarks.

Hmmm . . . I'm fairly neutral about Chrome. Not really wowed or anything.

[Analog Kid]

I'm very wary of Google applications since Google Earth 5 started shipping with that Auto-Update rootkit.

Does Chrome carry the same payload?

[miralize]

is there any way to enable extensions? Really want to use it as my primary browser but cant live without feedly!

[NeuralControl]

It's a browser. Who cares? It's one step removed from another iPhone flashlight app, IMHO.

Clearly you have never been forced to use IE or another terrible browser.

[soft]

I cant believe people choose to stick with Safari when Chrome is this stable.

* Safari doesnt open clicked links in new tab but in a new Window!
* Safari doesnt allow search-queries in the adressbar like FF and Chrome
* Safari doesnt have the common key-shortcuts like FF/Chrome. Example: Cmd+2 to switch to tab nr2
* Safari has no extensions (ok some plugins) like Firefox and Chrome(will do)

[!¡ V ¡!]

Hmmmm, seems very sluggish to me at loading web pages, and it's really jolty on YouTube running a HD video. Think I'll stick with Safari.

You read my mind. :)

[haravikk]

Doesn't seem to be as fast as Safari for some things, especially image-heavy pages, however it is pretty nippy. The top-bar is a bit bigger than I'd like, even with the top-mounted tabs; when Safari had similar tabs for a brief period, it used less vertical space overall.

Very promising though, I currently use Camino for quickly opening a second browser window on my other screen, Chrome may take that spot in the future.

[*LTD*]

Chrome seems to display certain fonts a bit differently than Safari. Just viewing the Pixelmator forums and I don't like what Chrome is doing.

[Maleficent]

Been using the Dev version for a while now. Very stable on the whole and super fast.

That said, not ready to ditch Safari yet. It still has trouble playing some videos and not having a bookmark manager is just plain annoying.

Hopefully they'll fix these irks soon as the Windows version is fantastic. I hope there's an AdBlock or similar extension too. Don't realise how much crap there is until you don't have one...

[UTclassof89]

I cant believe people choose to stick with Safari when Chrome is this stable.

* Safari doesnt open clicked links in new tab but in a new Window!
* Safari doesnt allow search-queries in the adressbar like FF and Chrome
* Safari doesnt have the common key-shortcuts like FF/Chrome. Example: Cmd+2 to switch to tab nr2
* Safari has no extensions (ok some plugins) like Firefox and Chrome(will do)


Safari will open links in a new tab vs. window (change your prefs, or Command-click the link)

Safari does allow search queries in the address bar (command-F)

Safari has its own key shortcuts (but customizing them would be nice!)

[*LTD*]

I understand it's a Beta, but currently, Safari owns Chrome when it comes to scrolling around on a YouTube page with HD content.

[philbeeney]

What.!!!! No PPC version. :(

[bigjohn]

No add-ons (gotta have XMarks, PDF Download, etc.)

Can't open a folder of bookmarks all at once in tabs

[amirite]

I've been using the dev versions for a while now because Safari has become way too slow since upgrading to Snow Leopard, and I was tired of the constant freezes and crashes.

Chrome is super lightweight and fast. I guess you could say it just works.

I never thought I'd give up Safari, but bye bye...

Chrome to Safari is like Safari to Firefox on OS X.

The only thing I don't like is that I have to manually accept downloads, and that it doesn't view PDFs in the browser.

[Maleficent]

I cant believe people choose to stick with Safari when Chrome is this stable.

* Safari doesnt open clicked links in new tab but in a new Window!
* Safari doesnt allow search-queries in the adressbar like FF and Chrome
* Safari doesnt have the common key-shortcuts like FF/Chrome. Example: Cmd+2 to switch to tab nr2
* Safari has no extensions (ok some plugins) like Firefox and Chrome(will do)

1: Can be changed through a Terminal command, google for it and you'll find out how.
2: Get Glims and it changes the search bar on the right to something more like FF/Chrome. Not ideal but better.
3: You can add keyboard shortcuts through the Keyboard settings pane in System Prefs. Although admittedly, I don't think it can do switching of tabs like you want.
4: There are many external programs that do the job so no need for extensions. An example is GlimmerBlocker, which acts like AdBlock Plus.

[soft]

Safari will open links in a new tab vs. window (change your prefs, or Command-click the link)


Its hard to Command-click links from MSN/IRC... I simply end up with 10 windows in a pile after a few hours.



1: Can be changed through a Terminal command, google for it and you'll find out how.

So they say.. but it doesnt work.

[adztaylor]

So they say.. but it doesnt work.

Did for me, cos that annoyed me massively but doesn't do it anymore :confused:

[*LTD*]

If you're going to delete Chrome, be warned that even with AppCleaner, not everything will be caught and placed in the Trash.

I found this:

http://dfbills.com/display/835

But I assume that's for Google Earth as well.

Check your user Library for other stuff. I'm looking for plists now.

I found more "keystone" items in Library---Google---GoogleSoftwareUpdate. I assume it's harmless, though, and might be needed by Google Earth.

[amirite]

I'm very wary of Google applications since Google Earth 5 started shipping with that Auto-Update rootkit.

Does Chrome carry the same payload?

Huh, what's wrong with autoupdate? And I think you'll be fine as long as you wear a tinfoil hat, which I assume you do :confused:
The favicons on the Bookmarks bar ruin the look, although they do aid the eye in differentiating the the bookmarks.
View -> Hide bookmarks bar

[*LTD*]

Huh, what's wrong with autoupdate? And I think you'll be fine as long as you wear a tinfoil hat, which I assume you do :confused:

View -> Hide bookmarks bar

The point is I want a Bookmarks bar. I use Safari's regularly. I wouldn't mind an option in Chrome to use text with favicons or text without favicons.

[DakotaGuy]

I cant believe people choose to stick with Safari when Chrome is this stable.

* Safari doesnt open clicked links in new tab but in a new Window!
* Safari doesnt allow search-queries in the adressbar like FF and Chrome
* Safari doesnt have the common key-shortcuts like FF/Chrome. Example: Cmd+2 to switch to tab nr2
* Safari has no extensions (ok some plugins) like Firefox and Chrome(will do)

I can't believe that the same people around here that hate Android and say it is slow, buggy, and unusable would install a browser from the same company on their Macs.:)

I guess it is just funny how some people like certain products and hate others. I still use Safari and it works fine for me.

[CptnJustc]

Too bad the OS X version doesn't include the Task Manager yet. I think that's a pretty keen feature of Chrome.

[mrgreen4242]

I love Chrome on Windows - definitely the fastest browser on that platform. Developer preview of Chrome on OSX was snappy, but unstable in my use. Can't wait to try the new beta version, though. I was extremely pleased with Google Docs in Chrome (on Windows) in terms of speed (though it's good in Safari 4 and FF 3.6 as well), to the point that I would consider it as my primary office suite at this point.

[VoR]

I can't believe that the same people around here that hate Android and say it is slow, buggy, and unusable would install a browser from the same company on their Macs.:)

I guess it is just funny how some people like certain products and hate others. I still use Safari and it works fine for me.

Fancy choosing software on its worth rather than the company behind it...Crazy

[Jason Beck]

The Chrome icon looks like a Pokemon ball thingy.

[*LTD*]

I will say that Chrome does sport a clean, minimalist look, which is to its credit.

[uraniumwilly]

Been using the Dev version for a while now. Very stable on the whole and super fast.

I'm finding it slower than Safari on 2.4 MBP w Snow Leopard.


... and not having a bookmark manager is just plain annoying.


It's unacceptable. I'll no longer use Chrome until it's upgraded.

[amirite]

I can't believe that the same people around here that hate Android and say it is slow, buggy, and unusable would install a browser from the same company on their Macs.:)

I guess it is just funny how some people like certain products and hate others. I still use Safari and it works fine for me.

Uhh... do you use Google.com?

[hhaeschen]

2: Get Glims and it changes the search bar on the right to something more like FF/Chrome. Not ideal but better.


That is nowhere near the address bar search function within FF. This feature might very well be a reason for me to switch from Safari to Chrome (given that there are no huge disadvantages with other things).

[RyanR.]

Downloaded it tried it out... Naa, it's not for me. Way slow compared to safari.:eek:
Thought I might keep it because of a few work sites, but they still looked scrambled. They only work on EI and EI no longer works on Mac's.. :confused:

[adztaylor]

The Chrome icon looks like a Pokemon ball thingy.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/2874749029_d8cda4531d.jpg

[*LTD*]

I will say that if I had to use any other browser than Safari, it would probably be Chrome. Is that saying a lot? I don't know.

[subaqua]

I installed this 30 minutes ago and initially I have noticed:

- very fast startup compared to safari (on my mbp 4,1)
- when i visit sites which require active directory authentication
(e.g. username: mydomain\my_userid )

I am unable to get it to log me in. Firefox and Safari both work perfectly.

So, at this time it is a show-stopper because many of my work related sites require me to authenticate.

Subaqua...

[*LTD*]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/2874749029_d8cda4531d.jpg

That's rather ominous. :eek:

[pcorajr]

I'm very wary of Google applications since Google Earth 5 started shipping with that Auto-Update rootkit.

Does Chrome carry the same payload?

Rootkit lol wtf?:confused:

[adztaylor]

I will say that if I had to use any other browser than Safari, it would probably be Chrome. Is that saying a lot? I don't know.

I whole heartedly agree with this.

[xef6]

Doesn't seem to be as fast as Safari for some things, especially image-heavy pages, however it is pretty nippy. The top-bar is a bit bigger than I'd like, even with the top-mounted tabs; when Safari had similar tabs for a brief period, it used less vertical space overall.

Very promising though, I currently use Camino for quickly opening a second browser window on my other screen, Chrome may take that spot in the future.

You might have a different setup than me, but it's a whole pixel taller than my Safari.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7653/screenshot20091208at838.png

[HONDAxACURA]

Doesn't make a difference to me. I think it's a little faster than Safari.

It's also not running on 64-bit. Hopefully they can work on this. If it uses less memory than Safari, I'm a happy person!

[miketcool]

I can't believe that the same people around here that hate Android and say it is slow, buggy, and unusable would install a browser from the same company on their Macs.:)

I guess it is just funny how some people like certain products and hate others. I still use Safari and it works fine for me.

How is being critical of every product funny? Wouldn't blindly approving every product be more humorous? I can like my MBP but hate the iPhone. I can like Android and hate Youtube. I can like my Toyota Celica but hate the Toyota Yaris.

I supposed because you like Safari, you love Apple's HiFI?

[djon41]

So they say.. but it doesnt work.

http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200812/make_safari_open_targeted_links_in_new_tabs_instead_of_new_windows/

worked perfectly for me. thanks to whoever mentioned it!

[*LTD*]

You might have a different setup than me, but it's a whole pixel taller than my Safari.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7653/screenshot20091208at838.png

It doesn't seems as tall because it uses a much lighter colour/shade than Safari. Safari's top end stands out a fair bit more and thus, at least to my eye, seems larger.

[acfusion29]

The favicons need to go... so ugly.

Other than that, I like it.

[amirite]

You might have a different setup than me, but it's a whole pixel taller than my Safari.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7653/screenshot20091208at838.png
It's actually quite a bit smaller if you don't show the bookmarks bar. People are just trying to find something wrong with it.

[star-fish]

... and not having a bookmark manager is just plain annoying.

It's unacceptable. I'll no longer use Chrome until it's upgraded.

Who uses bookmark managers tied to a browser any more? That's what delicious and the hundreds of other similar sites out there are for.

I'd be annoyed if I couldn't access my home bookmarks at work, or wanted to show my friend a video I found randomly (on their computer), or access my bookmarks between laptops, or access my faves at my parents' house - and couldn't. What would you do if your computer completely died?

[inkswamp]

I'll wait for others to check it out before I bother. Google has lousy desktop software and I sure in the hell don't feel like being their guinea pig.

[*LTD*]

It's actually quite a bit smaller if you don't show the bookmarks bar. People are just trying to find something wrong with it.

Then what happens if I want the Bookmarks bar? The Bookmarks bar is the height of convenience, in any browser.

[Jayomat]

@:apple::

PLEAAAASSEEEEEE PLEAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE add the
"dynamic-bookmarks-search" when I start to type something in the addressbar....

where is the problem? it's so annoying to go to -> bookmarks and type it in the upper right searchbar. You cannot search for a name you gave a certain bookmark, the address will only show up if you type in THE EXACT (WTF) addresse....:mad:

this is the only thing I don't like about safari... FF has it (although I don't wanna use it, too "heavy"), chrome has it...

when chrome leaves betastatus and safari is still lacking this feature,.. I have to leave safari behind... :mad:

[thisgoesto11]

I've built some websites on iWeb with audio clips and Chrome doesn't seem to be playing any of the audio files. Doesn't even show the "quicktime" play/pause/progress bar. Anyone know what's up with that?

[Kidman13]

Loving the speed but the missing bookmark manager really kills it. I mean it automatically imports bookmarks from firefox and safari, and now everything is one big mess. You can't even delete a bookmark! What type of crap is that...

[amirite]

Then what happens if I want the Bookmarks bar? The Bookmarks bar is the height of convenience, in any browser.

I don't really use it. Just click bookmarks in the menu, or create a new tab and the bookmarks bar is there.

[Analog Kid]

Huh, what's wrong with autoupdate? And I think you'll be fine as long as you wear a tinfoil hat, which I assume you do

It can update nearly any type of software, including Cocoa apps, screen savers, and preference panes. It can even update kernel extensions, regular files, and root-owned applications. Update Engine can even update multiple products just as easily as it can update one.
http://code.google.com/p/update-engine/

Basically a system process that any app can subscribe to and point to a server to download patches.

Nothing, and I mean nothing should have the right to update root owned applications on my system.

Google is lending their good name to any hack who wants to point at a malicious server. There's no reason for it and it's a disaster waiting to happen.

[*LTD*]

@:apple::

PLEAAAASSEEEEEE PLEAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE add the
"dynamic-bookmarks-search" when I start to type something in the addressbar....
:

Doesn't Safari already do this?


http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9302/pic1a.png

[flyperson]

Someone's on the rags.

Nice piece of misogyny there Mr Fish; I wonder where you are located - somewhere in the 1970s would be my guess!?

[HONDAxACURA]

It seems Safari 4 uses more memory and less CPU usage. While Chrome uses less memory but more CPU. I guess is a trade-off.

[daneoni]

Been using the dev builds for months now and it really has grown to be a very good browser. Although the missing Bookmarks Manager is a big fail on their part.

That said its zippy and lean

[speida]

I was waiting for the beta version as I've been trying few developer versions but I kept getting the 'Aw, snap' error when I try most of the websites like google.com, facebook. Websites like new.sky.com or macrumors.com worked fine.

Now after downloading it I found out that it happens exactly the same thing. It's really not usable and I can't seem to find a solution online now for months!!


Does anyone have any thoughts on how to fix this?

Thanks

[brendu]

ive been using the developer preview and it has been very stable and a little bit faster than safari.. but i still use safari more because of pinch to zoom mostly..

does anyone know how to get pinch to zoom working in chrome??

[ChazUK]

I've just updated Chrome and will carry on testing it.

Once the bookmark sync feature is enabled I'll be happier (or xmarks support on mac).

[shawnce]

http://code.google.com/p/update-engine/

Basically a system process that any app can subscribe to and point to a server to download patches.

Nothing, and I mean nothing should have the right to update root owned applications on my system. Yeah the last time I looked at the Google update engine it looked like any 3rd party application could add in support for it. Then this application could use an already installed and authorized version of the update engine (say one that came with Chrome) to silently "update" items, in privileged locations, on the users system without any prompting or notification to the user (would love to be wrong about this). They may have changed it since I look at it... but when I posted questions about this behavior (was trying to make sure I was actually wrong) several months back I never did get a response from folks and it looks like the thread in the group is now gone.

I am a little nervous as a result, not so much of google or known 3rd parties but of malware authors using social engineering to get folks to run an application that behind the scenes uses the update engine to silently "root" the users system. Mainly worried about the shared Mac situation...

In a nutshell the silent update ability is what has me nervous.

[djstarrock]

Two big problem I'm having, I can't edit the bookmarks in the folders I created and I can't get rid of "Other Bookmarks" folder.

[amirite]

ive been using the developer preview and it has been very stable and a little bit faster than safari.. but i still use safari more because of pinch to zoom mostly..

does anyone know how to get pinch to zoom working in chrome??

http://blog.boastr.net/?page_id=195

[ntay]

I downloaded the developer version only a week ago, and just updated to this version. Safari's been giving me lots of crap lately, so I've been using this for most my browsing...which is really just Google Reader these days. :rolleyes:

[Velin]

In my opinion, Safari was the fastest browser out their pre-Chrome -- both in OS X Snow Leopard, and on Windows 7.

Several people wrote Chrome is slower than Safari. If anyone else has an opinion whether Chrome or Safari performs faster, please let us know.

Unless Chrome offers significant speed advantages, I see no reason to switch, esp. if there's no bookmark shortcut.

Safari -- very fast, stable, clean design, works great
IE -- horribly slow, occasionally crashes, bloated
FireFox -- used to be good, but latest builds are garbage; slow, unresponsive, errors and crashes
Chrome -- ?

[arkmannj]

Been using chrome developer build for a while now, I really like it.

Oh and I love the email I got from Google about it


Here are a few fun facts from us on the Google Chrome for Mac team:

73,804 lines of Mac-specific code written
29 developer builds
1,177 Mac-specific bugs fixed
12 external committers and bug editors to the Google Chrome for Mac code base, 48 external code contributors
64 Mac Minis doing continuous builds and tests
8,760 cups of soft drinks and coffee consumed
4,380 frosted mini-wheats eaten

[TyroneT]

Seems to be ok - fast enough compared to Safari - macrumors.com now loads more quickly for example - however doesn't seem to behave well with Expose if you have multiple windows open.

Start closing them and doing expose and the remaining windows don't always resize or re-arrange properly or the blue highlighting appears for windows that are no longer open.

TT

[amirite]

Seems to be ok - fast enough compared to Safari - macrumors.com now loads more quickly for example - however doesn't seem to behave well with Expose if you have multiple windows open.

Start closing them and doing expose and the remaining windows don't always resize or re-arrange properly or the blue highlighting appears for windows that are no longer open.

TT

I'm not saying it's not Chrome's fault, but I've been having issues with expose since Snow Leopard. It's just not as good as it used to be.

[shawnce]

At this time Chrome is almost always going to use more CPU and likely more memory (ignoring any major differences in page caching) then Safari since it runs multiple processes (one chrome renderer per tab). So you need to look at the total cpu and memory load across all of these Chrome processes.

The main Chrome process pulls in the rendered content from the external renders into the single UI you see. On Snow Leopard I bet/hope they use the IOSurface facility to do this, that should make it work more efficiently on Snow Leopard.

For example with three tabs open...

PID COMMAND %CPU TIME RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VPRVT VSIZE
98676- Google Chrome He 0.0 00:00.38 6460K 55M 18M 80M 1302M
98673- Google Chrome He 0.0 00:02.26 16M 66M 39M 71M 1331M
98662- Google Chrome He 0.1 00:01.05 8932K 49M 22M 53M 1299M
98657- Google Chrome 0.0 00:11.32 54M 82M 87M 150M 1387M

[0:526] > ps -ve | grep Chrome
98657 S 0:12.82 0 0 0 895924 88920 - 0 0.0 1.1 /Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome -psn_0_14159232
98673 S 0:04.62 0 0 0 839292 40772 - 0 0.1 0.5 /Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/Versions/4.0.249.30/Google Chrome Helper.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome Helper --channel=98657.27512c80.1652552284 --type=renderer --lang=en-US --force-fieldtest=AsyncSlowStart/_AsyncSlowStart/CacheSize/CacheSizeGroup_0/DnsImpact/_default_enabled_prefetch/GlobalSdch/_global_disable_sdch/SocketLateBinding/_disable_late_binding/ --enable-crash-reporter=7ABA386224555E226D915B98E5B97818
98662 S 0:01.37 0 0 0 806292 22604 - 0 0.1 0.3 /Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/Versions/4.0.249.30/Google Chrome Helper.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome Helper --channel=98657.2560080.805457962 --type=renderer --lang=en-US --force-fieldtest=AsyncSlowStart/_AsyncSlowStart/DnsImpact/_default_enabled_prefetch/GlobalSdch/_global_disable_sdch/SocketLateBinding/_disable_late_binding/ --enable-crash-reporter=7ABA386224555E226D915B98E5B97818
98676 S 0:00.52 0 0 0 808572 18608 - 0 0.0 0.2 /Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/Versions/4.0.249.30/Google Chrome Helper.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome Helper --channel=98657.442f590.1602025856 --type=renderer --lang=en-US --force-fieldtest=AsyncSlowStart/_AsyncSlowStart/CacheSize/CacheSizeGroup_0/DnsImpact/_default_enabled_prefetch/GlobalSdch/_global_disable_sdch/SocketLateBinding/_disable_late_binding/ --enable-crash-reporter=7ABA386224555E226D915B98E5B97818
98733 R+ 0:00.00 0 0 0 2426840 360 - 0 0.0 0.0 grep Chrome

[baller1308]

I've just updated Chrome and will carry on testing it.

Once the bookmark sync feature is enabled I'll be happier (or xmarks support on mac).
If you use the latest build from here:
http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-mac/

you can use Xmarks beta for chrome, well chromium.

Plus you can use other extensions.

[Jayomat]

Doesn't Safari already do this?


http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9302/pic1a.png

Unfortunately, it doesn't ... As you can see, it only shows all of your bookmarks/history whose addresses start with "mac"... imagine you have a bookmark called www.supermac.com (whatever ;))... you won't find that by just typing "mac" ...

I have a bookmark called "umrechen_zahlensysteme".. with FF or chrome, i just type "zahlen" and it will show up... i don't even know the actual domain name... :(

[lex750]

It seems Safari 4 uses more memory and less CPU usage. While Chrome uses less memory but more CPU. I guess is a trade-off.

They both suck. Try Opera, you will be amazed.

[DanielSw]

Preferences>Personal Stuff>Get themes

[ChazUK]

If you use the latest build from here:
http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-mac/

you can use Xmarks beta for chrome, well chromium.

Plus you can use other extensions.

I'll have to give that a go, thanks! :cool:

[cjmillsnun]

They both suck. Try Opera, you will be amazed.

I would rather use IE than Opera. I find its UI poor.

[ChrisA]

Seems to be pretty fast for me, arguably as fast as Safari. Great first attempt and great port.

Yes but are you running on an 8 core system? This is where Chrome has the advantage. It runs each tab in it's own process which then can run on it's own CPU core. If you have a bunch of web apps all running at once and had a multi-core computer Chrome would win by a huge margin. THIS is why Google developed Chrome. They know that soon everyone will have 4-core CPUs and they hope everyone will want to rn their web apps

[daneoni]

One things that bugs me though is that it uses A LOT of CPU cycles when dealing with graphics/HD videos. Flash is as usual the worst culprit.

[shawnce]

They both suck. Try Opera, you will be amazed. Yeah I am usually amazed at how ugly Opera is but to each their own.

[TyroneT]

I'm not saying it's not Chrome's fault, but I've been having issues with expose since Snow Leopard. It's just not as good as it used to be.

I had issues with Expose behaviour as well - probably like everyone - with 10.6
All of my SL issues have been resolved with 10.6.2 and I haven't seen this type of behaviour with expose since applying 10.6.2

To verify - I closed all apps - started Chrome and opened a number of windows.

As I started closing them I expected the windows to resize and re-arrange in expose but this didn't quite happen - also when moving the mouse whilst in expose I got the blue highlights as though there was an open window but it wasn't being shown.

I close Chrome and all open windows - did expose to verify that all windows were close - and moved mouse around - not blue highlights.

Open safari and a number of subsequent windows - this behaved correctly - re-sizing and re-arranging windows as they were opened and close without highlight ghost windows that had been closed.

Not major to me right now - but enough to report and have me remain on Safari as primary browser until the next update.

[*LTD*]

Sadly, it doesn't ... As you can see, it only shows all your bookmarks/history which start with "mac"... imagine you have a bookmark called www.supermac.com (whatever ;))... you won't find that by just typing "mac" ...

I have a bookmark called "umrechen_zahlensysteme".. with FF or chrome, i just type "zahlen" and it will show up... i don't even know the actual domain name... :(

Ahh, I see what you mean now. I agree, it would be a nice feature!

[shawnce]

Yes but are you running on an 8 core system? This is where Chrome has the advantage. It runs each tab in it's own process which then can run on it's own CPU core. If you have a bunch of web apps all running at once and had a multi-core computer Chrome would win by a huge margin. THIS is why Google developed Chrome. They know that soon everyone will have 4-core CPUs and they hope everyone will want to rn their web apps Safari is multi-threaded as may even be using GCD on Snow Leopard. You don't need multiple processes to leverage multiple cores. Note inter-process communication overhead, etc. can easily make multi-process implementations slower then equivalent multi-threaded ones.

Google went the multi-process path to improve on security (isolate pages in tabs from each other) and resiliency (render crash in one tab doesn't bring down all tabs). Safari also uses additional processes for plugins like Flash (at least on Snow Leopard) to improve resiliency of the browser (plugin crash doesn't kill the browser).

[Povilas]

Scrolling is better in Safari. On my cuurent setup Safari also uses less RAM and CPU. Speed is about the same for both Safari and Chrome. Chrome still needs a lot of polishing.

[Macinposh]

Hmm.


-Looks like it is from 1997.
-No pinch zoom on webpages.
-Doesnt open certain webpages.
-Running youtube ends up consming 120-180(!)% when safari with the beta flash goes around 50-80%.
-Looks like it is from 1997.



Have to check it out though,competition is usually good.

[mark88]

Would be so much better if it properly imported all my saved username and passwords. Having to enter all the info for every site I'm a member on is a big pain

[vincentchan]

Nothing can replace Top Sites (Visualized RSS Reader)

[djellison]

I've been waiting and waiting for this - hoping it would be as good under OSX as it is on Windows. And it is. SO much faster than Safari for me - I'm very very very happy.

Hell - just the ability to highlight text and have it bring up a google search for that text in a new tab is brilliant. Having it default to google UK is even better.

Great news.

[atticus18244fsa]

I started using Stainless on top of Firefox and Safari thanks to someones suggestion on here. Very impressed with it. Chrome seems to be about the same speed as that.

[hermes369]

I'm getting some strange characters. I am probably doing something wrong. I get this: 𝟎 or similar. If I copy and paste the characters the expected characters are displayed correctly. Weird.

[lex750]

Yeah I am usually amazed at how ugly Opera is but to each their own.

Ugly? Really? Maybe you should try it before you make an uneducated comment. If you want a slow, memory and cpu hogging browser that, "looks pretty", well to each their own.

PS. Picture of super fast, low resource user, but quite "ugly" Opera enclosed.

http://www.betatestingzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/opera10mac-1024x853.png

[ChazUK]

I just got a 2nd email saying that the Linux beta is out too!

Hello everybody out there using Linux -

Google Chrome is go for beta on Linux! Thanks to the many Chromium and WebKit developers who helped make Google Chrome a speedy, stable browser. Here are a few fun facts from us on the Google Chrome team:

60,000 lines of Linux-specific code written
23 developer builds
2,713 Linux-specific bugs fixed
12 external committers and bug editors to the Google Chrome for Linux code base, 48 external code contributors

Thanks for waiting and we hope that you enjoy using Google Chrome!

Google Chrome Team
http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en-GB/w00t.html


I've been using the developer builds on Ubuntu for a while but this is welcome too.

[nclarkn]

**** YES! Chrome is probably one of the only reasons I still occasionally boot into XP. I love Chrome <3

[shawnce]

PS. Picture of super fast, low resource user, but quite "ugly" Opera enclosed. It looks like 10.10 has cleaned up many of the issue I saw in 10.00 in the main page window. It still uses some "incorrect" layout in preferences (etc.) and presents, on average, to many controls to users by default. I also find it slower on JavaScript heavier pages then Safari at this time.

[HLdan]

Meh, Chrome isn't ready for the Mac yet. It's bad enough Google made us wait a year or so before making a Mac version, that in itself makes me not want to support Google. This beta version is mediocre at best. Safari FTW.

[No1451]

Neat, I've been using the Chromium releases for a while now(Safari doesn't behave correctly on my machine for whatever reason), so not even sure if I'll use this.


Here's hoping they fixed up the ugly scrolling issues.

[Bennieboy©]

just downloaded it, looks good so far, activity monitor says it hardly uses anything so, will have to see what it likes and what it dont

[NewGenAdam]

It's a browser. Who cares? It's one step removed from another iPhone flashlight app, IMHO.

I laugh that you care enough to comment.
Those who are more discerning realise the distinctions between different browsers.
For those who don't, ignorance is bliss!
x

[LastZion]

same version as older beta? nothing new here?

[lex750]

It looks like 10.10 has cleaned up many of the issue I saw in 10.00 in the main page window. It still uses some "incorrect" layout in preferences (etc.) and presents, on average, to many controls to users by default. I also find it slower on JavaScript heavier pages then Safari at this time.

Sure, now the issue is not that it is "ugly", it's that it's "slower on JavaScript". Right. I'm seriously doubting you have even used Opera at all, because if you had you would have know the GUI was changed a while ago. I have no issues with JavaScript at all, but then again I'm not looking to create one.

[denisb1]

Didn't go through all the posts to see if I'm being redundant but here goes.
Google Chrome is fast, can't customize toolbars and can't use "1Password"

[deanburchell]

I'm getting some strange characters. I am probably doing something wrong. I get this: 𝟎 or similar. If I copy and paste the characters the expected characters are displayed correctly. Weird.

I too am getting a text rendering problem with several sites. Every character replaced with an "A" icon.

Anyone else? I am using FontAgent Pro on 10.6.2

[Xenu007]

Chrome preferences doesn't let you designate a mail client for Chrome. :mad:

And the Chrome dock icon looks like some primary color child's toy. :eek:

[mwjd299]

Another reason I had to buy another computer. Leopard or Snow Leopard and Intel only. Nothing runs on PPC anymore. The new iMac is coming tommorrow.:

[lex750]

Nothing runs on PPC anymore.

Haven't I told you a million times not to exaggerate?

[mhdena]

I have not used Safari on a regular basis in a year or so, using FireFox.

I'm surprised more aren't.

[Jollins]

Ugly? Really? Maybe you should try it before you make an uneducated comment. If you want a slow, memory and cpu hogging browser that, "looks pretty", well to each their own.

PS. Picture of super fast, low resource user, but quite "ugly" Opera enclosed.

http://www.betatestingzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/opera10mac-1024x853.png
Sorry, but that looks pretty ugly to me. Also, the screenshot doesn't quite do the UI justice (that's not a compliment). When I actually tried using it, it just felt like a windows app skinned to be a mac app.

[badapple18]

I have not used Safari on a regular basis in a year or so, using FireFox.

I'm surprised more aren't.

x2

[DakotaGuy]

Uhh... do you use Google.com? I use a lot of Google services since I have an Android phone. I also use Microsoft Office on my Mac. I was just referring to some around here who ridicule people who use anything other then Apple Inc. hardware or software.

[wesrk]

I'm trying it and I like it, I only wish that it had three finger short cuts like firefox, I like to be able to go to the bottom of the page with just a three finger swipe down like I do in firefox. Other than that, so far in 10 minutes of use, seems pretty good and fast like safari, though I prefer firefox as of right now.

[RazHyena]

Ok, I have a question....

What's up with this rootkit that's supposedly installed with Chrome? I've been reading reports around the net concerning an advertisement data rootkit that monitors browsing behavior on the application. Is this true? :confused:

[rdowns]

Sorry of this has already been posted but I just got an email from them.


It's finally here: Google Chrome for Mac. Available today in beta!

Hi there,

Thanks for signing up to hear from us regarding Google Chrome for Mac! We're excited to let you know that Google Chrome is now available in beta for Mac OS X.

Here are a few fun facts from us on the Google Chrome for Mac team:

73,804 lines of Mac-specific code written
29 developer builds
1,177 Mac-specific bugs fixed
12 external committers and bug editors to the Google Chrome for Mac code base, 48 external code contributors
64 Mac Minis doing continuous builds and tests
8,760 cups of soft drinks and coffee consumed
4,380 frosted mini-wheats eaten

[MacFly123]

Well, I've played around with it, and it is a good fast browser, but I like Safari better!

Anything that is based on WebKit and advances browsers while hurting IE is great by me though! :D

Ok, I have a question....

What's up with this rootkit that's supposedly installed with Chrome? I've been reading reports around the net concerning an advertisement data rootkit that monitors browsing behavior on the application. Is this true? :confused:

Knowing Google, I'm sure it is true! I don't like Google knowing so much about so many things either. But then again I would be naive if I thought in the future we will have more privacy and more rights as apposed to slowly having them stripped way!

[NoSmokingBandit]

Still no bookmark manager? Come on google, you can do better than this.

[solaris]

About time...
..it took them just 15 additional months to bring Chrome to Mac OS X.

* Downloading *

[mr.steevo]

No PPC support means I won't be using it.

s.

[BornAgainMac]

No OS 9 version. No chrome for me. :)

[surferfromuk]

Yeah the last time I looked at the Google update engine it looked like any 3rd party application could add in support for it. Then this application could use an already installed and authorized version of the update engine (say one that came with Chrome) to silently "update" items, in privileged locations, on the users system without any prompting or notification to the user (would love to be wrong about this). They may have changed it since I look at it... but when I posted questions about this behavior (was trying to make sure I was actually wrong) several months back I never did get a response from folks and it looks like the thread in the group is now gone.

I am a little nervous as a result, not so much of google or known 3rd parties but of malware authors using social engineering to get folks to run an application that behind the scenes uses the update engine to silently "root" the users system. Mainly worried about the shared Mac situation...

In a nutshell the silent update ability is what has me nervous.

Agreed. I have no objection to an app running an update process upon launch - in fact I actually like that - but a process running in the background is a total no-no for me. I've just uninstalled Google Earth on the basis of this information and won't be installing any more google apps until I read they've reversed this policy.

For people who don't see the problem - I have over a 100 apps imagine if everyone of them ran a silent background updater - it'd be a nightmare and inevitably it's a backdoor to my OS I have no control over + it's this crap that eventually grinds your computer to a halt. There are reports of beach-balling on googles forums regarding this unsanctioned little app.

First time I've really been concerned with Google - hope it's not a shape of things to come from them.

[SolRayz]

Scrolling with mbp trackpad still smoother with safari period. Testing finished for me.;)

[creator2456]

Just from opening it up, I can see that we are losing several pixels to the grey bar across the very top of the window...that can go...and the bookmarks bar needs to have an option for favicon only, text only, or both.

I am really liking the Reopen Closed Tab (shft + cmd + t) over Safari's Reopen Last Closed Window.

[d00by]

It's Slick. Simple. Very Google-ish.

No Extensions? Will have to wait until 1Password/Ad-block stuff works.

[ppc_michael]

One really disappointing thing:

Chrome's main view doesn't seem to inherit the system-wide services from Cocoa like dictionary lookup (with Cmd+Ctrl+D), spell check (it has its own, but I want my existing dictionary with my custom words available everywhere else on my system), drag and drop is different, etc.

That was a real bummer to me, I was wanting to switch.

[lex750]

Sorry, but that looks pretty ugly to me. Also, the screenshot doesn't quite do the UI justice (that's not a compliment). When I actually tried using it, it just felt like a windows app skinned to be a mac app.

Stick to your slow, resource hogging browser. "Cute" on the outside, but not much inside.

http://blog.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/image.axd?picture=peeps-798084.jpg

[mwjd299]

No PPC support means I won't be using it.

s.

Google Chrome is not the reason I got a new computer. I don't need another browser. Firefox, Safari, and Opera are good enough.
I've seen the handwriting on the wall, Intel apps are the way of the future. I realized that when Snow Leopard was released. Actually I realized it way before then. :mad:

[Westside guy]

Unless Chrome offers significant speed advantages, I see no reason to switch, esp. if there's no bookmark shortcut.


Given that they're both Webkit, it's hard to see Chrome outpacing Safari - or being slower than it, for that matter. I believe they have different Javascript engines, though; so "Web 2.0" pages might load differently.

They both suck. Try Opera, you will be amazed.

Steve Jobs' reality distortion field has nothing on Opera's. :D People make the most outlandish claims about Opera. I've tried it several times over the years (even used it steadily for a while) - somehow I didn't come away amazed... or even particularly impressed.

[tallguy]

No multi-touch zooming is the first problem since my eyes suck. I know it's still in beta so I'll just have to wait. Another thing that I wouldn't mind seeing added is full screen browsing. I kind of liked that feature on the windows version. Not that it ever really got used but it was still cool.

[DUSTmurph]

Apparently Chrome's Incognito feature doesn't keep people standing behind you from seeing what websites you go to. :mad::mad: I guess I'll stick with Safari.

[lamadude]

I love Chrome on windows and (chromium) on ubuntu, but for some reason chrome on mac doesn't feel the same, it seems slower and doesn't integrate well with the rest of the desktop.

Chrome on windows is superfast, I can't think of a faster browser, but I love my firefox extensions too much, (+ the whole open source philosophy behind it) so I'm sticking with FF.

[KALLT]

Apparently Chrome's Incognito feature doesn't keep people standing behind you from seeing what websites you go to. :mad::mad: I guess I'll stick with Safari.

Eh… what?

Currently, I don't see any reason why you would switch to Chrome if you use Safari 4, besides CPU/memory usage.

[pellets007]

Chrome won't display Java. Am I doing something wrong? Can I plug in the Java plug-in manually to Chrome like it can be done in Camino?

[macUser2007]

Given that they're both Webkit, it's hard to see Chrome outpacing Safari - or being slower than it, for that matter. I believe they have different Javascript engines, though; so "Web 2.0" pages might load differently....

Well, Safari is also significantly slower with Flash, than Firefox or Camino.

When I tested Chrome and Safari in Windows 7, Chrome was much more efficient with Flash, than Safari. Even though both are Webkit.

After my testing, I've dumped Safari as my default browser on both platforms, and now use FireFox 3.6 Beta (made up to look just like Safari :)

[SLR2009]

Hi I can't figure out how to save a website to my desktop and open it in application mode so there's no tool bar or window elements. Anyone?

[jon08]

Can someone run this test on their Chrome Mac and post the results here? I'm interested how it will compare...

http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action

[ravenvii]

Just tried it, it's not bad. This made me wish Apple hadn't moved the tabs from the titlebar to under the addressbar. I hope Safari 5 will move it back to the top! So much wasted space in Safari 4.

[jmre5150]

Ive been using it all day. Its super fast for me. I love it.

[Andronicus]

how about if you gonna stop posting "I will download" and "downloading now", and post some thoughts on how it actually work and what you think about it, huh?

I will download it....

....downloading now.

[borcanm]

Wow. Its so much better than Safari or FireFox. It seems faster, cleaner and less of a ram hog.

[Drag'nGT]

Overall it's not my cup of tea. I'm happy we have another browser but I'll stick to Safari.

[DoNoHarm]

wow, not having a separate search box blows so bad.... and it doesen't look better than Safari. however, the tabs behavior is better. Like if you open a new tab from a tab in the middle of all your tabs, the new tab comes up in the middle too, not at the end of the tabs.

[shawnce]

Sure, now the issue is not that it is "ugly", it's that it's "slower on JavaScript". ... I have no issues with JavaScript at all, but then again I'm not looking to create one.

No it is still ugly compared to other Mac browsers but they are making improvements to UI... in my experience however Opera is still slower, on average, then Safari for the sites I use. Opera is excellent in memory usage of course but that is not an issue on my system.

Anyway I decided to test the JavaScript performance of the browsers I currently have on my system. If I have the time I may run some rendering benchmarks (ran across a few, and in general Safari and Chrome are ahead of Opera but hard to gather data from these tests quickly...).

Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 8 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP31.006C.B05
SMC Version (system): 1.25f4
System Version: Mac OS X 10.6.1 (10B504) (yeah I still need to update)
Kernel Version: Darwin 10.0.0

The first number is the average of three V8 benchmark (http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/benchmarks/v5/run.html) runs after ignoring two warmup runs. Higher number for V8 is better. The second number is sunspider benchmark (http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html). Lower number for sunspider is better.


Opera 10.10 (6795)
195 | 3897.2ms +/- 0.4% (details (http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-results.html?%7B%223d-cube%22:%5B140,139,139,140,141%5D,%223d-morph%22:%5B180,173,172,173,179%5D,%223d-raytrace%22:%5B157,155,154,154,154%5D,%22access-binary-trees%22:%5B52,52,52,52,52%5D,%22access-fannkuch%22:%5B343,343,349,344,353%5D,%22access-nbody%22:%5B162,161,164,168,163%5D,%22access-nsieve%22:%5B98,96,98,98,97%5D,%22bitops-3bit-bits-in-byte%22:%5B69,69,68,69,68%5D,%22bitops-bits-in-byte%22:%5B95,94,94,97,95%5D,%22bitops-bitwise-and%22:%5B306,316,306,299,317%5D,%22bitops-nsieve-bits%22:%5B136,136,135,137,138%5D,%22controlflow-recursive%22:%5B70,69,69,68,70%5D,%22crypto-aes%22:%5B139,142,139,146,141%5D,%22crypto-md5%22:%5B72,72,70,71,71%5D,%22crypto-sha1%22:%5B71,72,70,71,73%5D,%22date-format-tofte%22:%5B150,150,150,149,150%5D,%22date-format-xparb%22:%5B96,96,95,95,95%5D,%22math-cordic%22:%5B169,167,167,166,169%5D,%22math-partial-sums%22:%5B132,131,131,132,133%5D,%22math-spectral-norm%22:%5B83,83,83,83,84%5D,%22regexp-dna%22:%5B107,106,116,107,106%5D,%22string-base64%22:%5B115,114,114,114,113%5D,%22string-fasta%22:%5B222,221,216,225,218%5D,%22string-tagcloud%22:%5B158,159,159,161,161%5D,%22string-unpack-code%22:%5B433,448,438,446,439%5D,%22string-validate-input%22:%5B136,134,134,135,135%5D%7D))

FireFox 3.0.13
228 | 2550.4ms +/- 0.3% (details (http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-results.html?%7B%223d-cube%22:%5B117,117,118,117,119%5D,%223d-morph%22:%5B96,96,95,95,94%5D,%223d-raytrace%22:%5B106,100,99,103,101%5D,%22access-binary-trees%22:%5B47,45,45,44,44%5D,%22access-fannkuch%22:%5B146,142,141,142,142%5D,%22access-nbody%22:%5B123,126,125,125,125%5D,%22access-nsieve%22:%5B44,44,45,45,44%5D,%22bitops-3bit-bits-in-byte%22:%5B39,41,39,42,41%5D,%22bitops-bits-in-byte%22:%5B64,63,63,64,64%5D,%22bitops-bitwise-and%22:%5B66,66,65,66,66%5D,%22bitops-nsieve-bits%22:%5B78,76,76,76,76%5D,%22controlflow-recursive%22:%5B32,33,31,32,32%5D,%22crypto-aes%22:%5B62,61,61,60,60%5D,%22crypto-md5%22:%5B47,47,46,47,47%5D,%22crypto-sha1%22:%5B47,47,47,47,48%5D,%22date-format-tofte%22:%5B185,189,188,186,188%5D,%22date-format-xparb%22:%5B122,121,122,122,122%5D,%22math-cordic%22:%5B112,111,112,113,112%5D,%22math-partial-sums%22:%5B117,125,128,107,107%5D,%22math-spectral-norm%22:%5B52,52,54,52,53%5D,%22regexp-dna%22:%5B221,216,218,216,217%5D,%22string-base64%22:%5B77,73,74,76,73%5D,%22string-fasta%22:%5B166,166,165,175,176%5D,%22string-tagcloud%22:%5B130,130,128,129,131%5D,%22string-unpack-code%22:%5B174,174,175,173,173%5D,%22string-validate-input%22:%5B89,92,88,90,93%5D%7D))

Safari 4.0.3 (6531.9)
2705 | 360.6ms +/- 0.3% (details (http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-results.html?%7B%223d-cube%22:%5B14,14,14,14,14%5D,%223d-morph%22:%5B18,18,19,18,17%5D,%223d-raytrace%22:%5B15,15,15,15,15%5D,%22access-binary-trees%22:%5B4,5,4,4,4%5D,%22access-fannkuch%22:%5B13,14,14,14,14%5D,%22access-nbody%22:%5B9,9,9,9,9%5D,%22access-nsieve%22:%5B8,8,7,7,7%5D,%22bitops-3bit-bits-in-byte%22:%5B3,3,3,3,3%5D,%22bitops-bits-in-byte%22:%5B7,7,6,7,7%5D,%22bitops-bitwise-and%22:%5B4,4,3,3,4%5D,%22bitops-nsieve-bits%22:%5B6,6,6,6,6%5D,%22controlflow-recursive%22:%5B3,3,3,4,3%5D,%22crypto-aes%22:%5B11,10,11,10,10%5D,%22crypto-md5%22:%5B5,6,6,5,6%5D,%22crypto-sha1%22:%5B4,4,4,4,5%5D,%22date-format-tofte%22:%5B24,24,24,24,24%5D,%22date-format-xparb%22:%5B29,28,28,28,28%5D,%22math-cordic%22:%5B8,9,8,9,8%5D,%22math-partial-sums%22:%5B15,16,15,16,15%5D,%22math-spectral-norm%22:%5B7,6,6,7,7%5D,%22regexp-dna%22:%5B19,18,19,18,18%5D,%22string-base64%22:%5B14,14,14,15,14%5D,%22string-fasta%22:%5B25,25,26,26,25%5D,%22string-tagcloud%22:%5B29,29,30,29,30%5D,%22string-unpack-code%22:%5B39,40,39,39,40%5D,%22string-validate-input%22:%5B27,27,27,27,27%5D%7D))

WebKit 4.0.3 (6531.9, r51825)
3092 | 314.4ms +/- 1.4% (details (http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-results.html?%7B%223d-cube%22:%5B13,15,15,15,15%5D,%223d-morph%22:%5B18,18,18,17,17%5D,%223d-raytrace%22:%5B13,12,13,13,13%5D,%22access-binary-trees%22:%5B4,4,4,4,4%5D,%22access-fannkuch%22:%5B14,14,14,13,14%5D,%22access-nbody%22:%5B9,8,9,9,9%5D,%22access-nsieve%22:%5B6,5,5,5,5%5D,%22bitops-3bit-bits-in-byte%22:%5B3,3,3,3,3%5D,%22bitops-bits-in-byte%22:%5B6,9,7,6,7%5D,%22bitops-bitwise-and%22:%5B4,4,4,4,4%5D,%22bitops-nsieve-bits%22:%5B6,6,7,7,7%5D,%22controlflow-recursive%22:%5B4,3,3,3,3%5D,%22crypto-aes%22:%5B10,10,10,10,9%5D,%22crypto-md5%22:%5B4,4,5,5,4%5D,%22crypto-sha1%22:%5B4,4,4,4,3%5D,%22date-format-tofte%22:%5B20,20,20,20,20%5D,%22date-format-xparb%22:%5B17,17,17,17,18%5D,%22math-cordic%22:%5B8,8,8,8,8%5D,%22math-partial-sums%22:%5B15,15,14,15,14%5D,%22math-spectral-norm%22:%5B6,5,6,5,6%5D,%22regexp-dna%22:%5B20,18,17,18,17%5D,%22string-base64%22:%5B14,13,14,14,14%5D,%22string-fasta%22:%5B18,13,12,13,12%5D,%22string-tagcloud%22:%5B26,27,26,27,26%5D,%22string-unpack-code%22:%5B39,40,39,40,39%5D,%22string-validate-input%22:%5B19,19,19,20,19%5D%7D))

Google Chrome 4.0.249.30
4241 | 422.8ms +/- 2.4% (details (http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-results.html?%7B%223d-cube%22:%5B20,23,26,26,23%5D,%223d-morph%22:%5B28,21,22,21,24%5D,%223d-raytrace%22:%5B21,20,19,19,19%5D,%22access-binary-trees%22:%5B1,2,2,2,2%5D,%22access-fannkuch%22:%5B12,12,11,12,11%5D,%22access-nbody%22:%5B16,14,15,15,15%5D,%22access-nsieve%22:%5B3,4,4,4,4%5D,%22bitops-3bit-bits-in-byte%22:%5B2,2,2,2,2%5D,%22bitops-bits-in-byte%22:%5B8,7,7,8,7%5D,%22bitops-bitwise-and%22:%5B8,8,7,8,8%5D,%22bitops-nsieve-bits%22:%5B14,14,13,13,14%5D,%22controlflow-recursive%22:%5B2,2,2,3,3%5D,%22crypto-aes%22:%5B10,8,9,8,8%5D,%22crypto-md5%22:%5B9,9,9,9,9%5D,%22crypto-sha1%22:%5B8,8,8,9,9%5D,%22date-format-tofte%22:%5B29,27,27,28,28%5D,%22date-format-xparb%22:%5B25,25,24,23,23%5D,%22math-cordic%22:%5B17,15,16,15,15%5D,%22math-partial-sums%22:%5B17,17,16,16,17%5D,%22math-spectral-norm%22:%5B6,7,6,6,7%5D,%22regexp-dna%22:%5B18,17,17,17,17%5D,%22string-base64%22:%5B18,18,18,18,18%5D,%22string-fasta%22:%5B25,25,25,25,26%5D,%22string-tagcloud%22:%5B38,35,36,37,37%5D,%22string-unpack-code%22:%5B52,49,51,50,50%5D,%22string-validate-input%22:%5B30,27,26,27,26%5D%7D))


Note on my system Safari and WebKit nightly run 64-bit while the other browsers are 32-bit.

[ChazUK]

wow, not having a separate search box blows so bad....

Did you know the address box is also the search box?

[haravikk]

I hope there's an AdBlock or similar extension too. Don't realise how much crap there is until you don't have one...
I've been using Glimmer Blocker (http://glimmerblocker.org/) for a while now, and it's good, no plug-in needed and works with all browsers on your machine, including HTML e-mails etc.

[wallaby]

Chrome is fast, which is all I ever really wanted from it. Unfortunately I can't really think of a reason to switch from Safari, as it's not THAT much faster. I still use Firefox as my "work" browser on account of all the plugins I use, but Safari works fine for quick "open, browse, and close" windows since it opens so fast.

Dunno, Chrome may edge in, but they're two browsers that do basically the same thing for me.

[bigandtasty]

Someone's on the rags.

That's what she said!:D

[cgmpowers]

I have something seriously wrong with the fonts. At first I thought it was some font I had in Suitecase Fusion but its not even ON. I tried turning Suitecase on and looking for fonts but even that wasn't helping.

http://img.skitch.com/20091208-gd541igaufdn85347w1p5sajpt.jpg"]http://img.skitch.com/20091208-gd541igaufdn85347w1p5sajpt.jpg

I googled help on this issue and found steps to fix it, yet the directions aren't helping because the change font section is grayed out...so I can't even fix it inside Google...

http://img.skitch.com/20091208-b3hyk3ycu79ewarb8h94htjrw7.jpg"]http://img.skitch.com/20091208-b3hyk3ycu79ewarb8h94htjrw7.jpg

Any advice??

Chris Powers
cpowersATmac.com

[ChazUK]

Not that it helps cgmpowers but my font settings are greyed out too so that appears to be normal. :(

EDIT: Do you think a quick permissions repair and reboot may help?

[jmull]

I cant believe people choose to stick with Safari when Chrome is this stable.

* Safari doesnt open clicked links in new tab but in a new Window!
* Safari doesnt allow search-queries in the adressbar like FF and Chrome
* Safari doesnt have the common key-shortcuts like FF/Chrome. Example: Cmd+2 to switch to tab nr2
* Safari has no extensions (ok some plugins) like Firefox and Chrome(will do)

But it's fast. :apple:

[300D]

No PPC code = FAIL

[JAT]

Awesome! Finally, there's a program that allows you to surf the internet. How did I ever get along without it?

[HyperZboy]

What.!!!! No PPC version. :(

My thoughts exactly. This will, at least in the short term future, doom this browser to significantly less usage & market share than Safari or Firefox, if not doom it to 3rd-4th place permanently, at least on Macs.

Sure, I'll check it out on my Intel Mac, but for those who have a variety or multiple Macs, most of those people won't want to get attached to something they can't use on all their Macs. How much extra cost would there have been for a Universal Binary version? Seems like a bad decision to me. If it was a huge complicated program like Adobe's Creative Suite, I could understand, but a browser too expensive/difficult to make a UB version?

Sounds like a halfhearted Mac Google effort all around to me from the long delay to release it, then it doesn't even work on 15-25% on Macs in current use.

[*LTD*]

My thoughts exactly. This will, at least in the short term future, doom this browser to significantly less usage & market share than Safari or Firefox, if not doom it to 3rd-4th place permanently, at least on Macs.

Sure, I'll check it out on my Intel Mac, but for those who have a variety or multiple Macs, most of those people won't want to get attached to something they can't use on all their Macs. How much extra cost would there have been for a Universal Binary version? Seems like a bad decision to me. If it was a huge complicated program like Adobe's Creative Suite, I could understand, but a browser too expensive/difficult to make a UB version?

Sounds like a halfhearted Mac Google effort all around to me from the long delay to release it, then it doesn't even work on 15-25% on Macs in current use.

PPC is dead. Google is perfectly fine with that. Sacrificing some short-term marketshare in order to avoid coding for a dead Apple platform? No problem. it certainly won't break Google. Chrome is for Windows as well. If Chrome is good, it'll pick up. Quarter after quarter Intel-based Macs (or just "Macs") are flying off the shelves in record numbers.

POWERPC IS DEAD. And it's not comng back. Apple no longer cares about PPC. Why should Google? Quit spamming every thread with your PowerPC-bellyaching. Please!

[I WAS the one]

i love it. maybe Safari will go to the not-using-anymore box..

[solaris]

Ouch! No extensions, bookmark manager or cookie manager.
Which all seem to be present in the GNU/Linux version also released today. So as "always" we Mac users seems to get the short end of the stick... :(

** Uninstalls **

[HyperZboy]

No OS 9 version. No chrome for me. :)

The problem with that bad joke is almost no one is using OS 9 anymore and no Mac in years supports it.

LOTS of people are still using PPC Macs & Apple's Safari & Mozilla's Firefox both support it.

Big difference. So at least in the short term, this browser will not be used by many people, even many who have both an Intel & a PPC Mac because who wants to get used to a user experience that they can't use on both their Macs?

[*LTD*]

The problem with that bad joke is almost no one is using OS 9 anymore and no Mac in years supports it.

LOTS of people are still using PPC Macs & Apple's Safari & Mozilla's Firefox both support it.

Big difference. So at least in the short term, this browser will not be used by many people, even many who have both an Intel & a PPC Mac because who wants to used to a user experience that they can't use on both their Macs?

What? Those who have PowerPC Macs already have a browser and software for it. They didn't magically stop working. Google simply doesn't care to support a dead platform, same as Apple.

Chrome IS being used by "many" people. Chrome is not exclusive to OS X. Google didn't need to even be in any rush to code for OS X, we're not that big of a market anyway. So why then should they code for a dead platform that represents far less than OS X's already limited market share??

If you're not happy with your PPC equipment anymore then ebay them, they'll likely fetch a decent price, and use the proceeds to invest in new Macs. Otherwise, enjoy them for all they can still do (which is nearly everything) and understand that with each passing month your PPC whining becomes less relevant.

LOL.

PPC IS DEAD.

[eastcoastsurfer]

My thoughts exactly. This will, at least in the short term future, doom this browser to significantly less usage & market share than Safari or Firefox, if not doom it to 3rd-4th place permanently, at least on Macs.

Sure, I'll check it out on my Intel Mac, but for those who have a variety or multiple Macs, most of those people won't want to get attached to something they can't use on all their Macs. How much extra cost would there have been for a Universal Binary version? Seems like a bad decision to me. If it was a huge complicated program like Adobe's Creative Suite, I could understand, but a browser too expensive/difficult to make a UB version?

Sounds like a halfhearted Mac Google effort all around to me from the long delay to release it, then it doesn't even work on 15-25% on Macs in current use.

Huh? So, OSX and snow leopard are also doomed? Like LTD said, PPC is dead. Apple, not Google, declared that YEARS ago at this point.

[blackhand1001]

I understand it's a Beta, but currently, Safari owns Chrome when it comes to scrolling around on a YouTube page with HD content.
Well thats because there no hardware acceleration on mac that is supported for thrid party apps. I am not sure if safari uses quartz GL, but all apps on windows 7 take advantage of GDI acceleration. Chrome on windows does a fine job with youtube hd and scrolling.

[JarredWagner]

Anybody know when we might expect color management? I love the overall feel but I need right colors!

[*LTD*]

No OS 9 version. No chrome for me. :)

No System 7 version. No Chrome for me. :D

[HyperZboy]

I see through the thread that several others have complained about the lack of PowerPC support. I guess there's a lot of dead people here. :D

If it annoys you that much, just skip those pages & posts.

[DoNoHarm]

Did you know the address box is also the search box?

yeah i did. the reason it sucks to have one box for search and addresses is that the computer must decide whether or not you're searching or typing in an address. For example, say you're typing in "mac rumors" in your search bar. the computer won't know if you mean you're searching for a site that has rumors about macs or if you're searching for www.macrumors.com.

that's why this system sucks.

[yoak]

It´s just a browser, how can anyone get excited about this?

[avidmacuser]

First impressions were great. Speedy loading of pages, Flash playback faster as well showing a ~50% FPS increase over Safari on this (http://www.craftymind.com/factory/guimark/GUIMark_Flex3.html) page. However no quicktime song playback on iCompositions showing only a black bar instead of the controller which could be an HTML issue as to how QuickTime items are embedded but idonno (works in Safari & FF).

Also, are searches done in the address bar? seems to work but seems cumbersome when wanting to review last search terms. I'd prefer a search bar like in Safari, FF, and others. Maybe I just missed the config options?!

[dead goon]

I'm too wary of Google products these days. I just don't trust them. Too much data whoring. I'm willing to give up my gmail account if I can find a decent alternative.

[objc]

What.!!!! No PPC version. :(

It's because of V8, the Javascript compiler. It compiles JS directly to assembly language, which is machine-specific. I looked, and V8 is thousands of lines of code, and would take significant effort to be able to generate PowerPC ASM. That's not to say that I might not try it at some point, especially if I got in touch with others who are enthusiastic about the idea.

V8's performance is so good, it would breathe new life into old PowerPC machines.

[redgaz26]

yeah i did. the reason it sucks to have one box for search and addresses is that the computer must decide whether or not you're searching or typing in an address. For example, say you're typing in "mac rumors" in your search bar. the computer won't know if you mean you're searching for a site that has rumors about macs or if you're searching for www.macrumors.com.

that's why this system sucks.

works fine for me, typed mac rumors and it searches for mac rumors!!!
if youve already visited this website which im sure you have;) you will see the link to it underneath as soon as you start typing, aint that hard really:cool:

[objc]

I see through the thread that several others have complained about the lack of PowerPC support. I guess there's a lot of dead people here. :D

If it annoys you that much, just skip those pages & posts.

Or if you have a computer science degree, contact me and we'll look into adding PowerPC code generation to V8. It would be one hell of a thing to put on a resume!

I still use PowerPC machines at work every day. They are plenty fast enough unless you run crap code like Flash. That's why I blocked flash in Safari. It was like getting a new computer.

[uncleSmurf]

checking it out right now, I really like the PC version so hopefully this one is just as good

[*LTD*]

Or if you have a computer science degree, contact me and we'll look into adding PowerPC code generation to V8. It would be one hell of a thing to put on a resume!

I still use PowerPC machines at work every day. They are plenty fast enough unless you run crap code like Flash. That's why I blocked flash in Safari. It was like getting a new computer.

There you go. A proactive solution. Nice to see.

[red42]

useless until an adblock extension works with it :o

Does anyone know of a way to block those nasty nasty adverts? on Chrome?:(

[Patrick J]

How can I totally remove all files from Chrome from my Mac?

[coelacanth]

Any tricks to enable full screen mode on OS X??

[TuckBodi]

Scrolling is better in Safari. On my cuurent setup Safari also uses less RAM and CPU. Speed is about the same for both Safari and Chrome. Chrome still needs a lot of polishing.

Ouch, I was gonna try Chrome on my Mini (w/Leopard) but if it has worse RAM usage than Safari, I'm steering clear. On my MBP (Tiger w/4gb memory) I see Safari (v4.0) constantly consuming gigabytes and gigabytes of my hard drive if I leave it running for a few days. It'll eventually chew up everything it can find and I'll have to reboot to get it back. Is Chrome this memory/swap hungry?

[HyperZboy]

It's because of V8, the Javascript compiler. It compiles JS directly to assembly language, which is machine-specific. I looked, and V8 is thousands of lines of code, and would take significant effort to be able to generate PowerPC ASM. That's not to say that I might not try it at some point, especially if I got in touch with others who are enthusiastic about the idea.

V8's performance is so good, it would breathe new life into old PowerPC machines.

Or if you have a computer science degree, contact me and we'll look into adding PowerPC code generation to V8. It would be one hell of a thing to put on a resume!

I still use PowerPC machines at work every day. They are plenty fast enough unless you run crap code like Flash. That's why I blocked flash in Safari. It was like getting a new computer.

Oh, you are so right about Flash on PPC, what a disaster and it just keeps getting worse and worse. That's one thing I'd almost like to see Adobe just KILL on PPC! And for it to die a horrible death in general.

I don't have a compsci degree sadly, just have taken lots of compsci classes, so I'm not up for that daunting task you just described.

But as to some other points about Chrome and PPC, why Linux & not PPC?

"Companies have, mostly based on web server statistics, estimated that the desktop market share of Linux range from less than 1% to 2.14%. "
(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux)

If PowerPC is dead, where does that put the health of Linux?
I don't know exactly where the PPC market share numbers are, but they can't be too far off of those numbers.

I think it's kind of insulting that Google is not fully supporting a significant portion of the Mac community, yet is supporting the low market share Linux desktop market.

The people here on tech sites like this are not indicative of the general Mac market since most Mac users are not on tech sites just like most PC users are not on Tomshardware.com. So obviously, more people here than the general Mac population are more likely to have the latest & greatest hardware and be tech elitists & power users.
The average Mac user keeps a Mac much longer than PC users and longer than probably most people on most Mac tech website forums like this. So it's more a valid criticism than tech power users here would have you think.

Even I have an Intel Mac now. I'll try the Chrome browser out, but I doubt I'll use it every day because I won't be able to use on all my PPC Macs.

[Jolly Jimmy]

Does anyone know of a way to block those nasty nasty adverts? on Chrome?:(

Glimmerblocker works fine.

[*LTD*]

Oh, you are so right about Flash on PPC, what a disaster and it just keeps getting worse and worse. That's one thing I'd almost like to see Adobe just KILL on PPC! And for it to die a horrible death in general.

I don't have a compsci degree sadly, just have taken lots of compsci classes, so I'm not up for that daunting task you just described.

But as to some other points about Chrome and PPC, why Linux & not PPC?

"Companies have, mostly based on web server statistics, estimated that the desktop market share of Linux range from less than 1% to 2.14%. "
(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux)

If PowerPC is dead, where does that put the health of Linux?
I don't know exactly where the PPC market share numbers are, but they can't be too far off of those numbers.

I think it's kind of insulting that Google is not fully supporting a significant portion of the Mac community, yet is supporting the low market share Linux desktop market.

The people here on tech sites like this are not indicative of the general Mac market since most Mac users are not on tech sites just like most PC users are not on Tomshardware.com. So obviously, more people here than the general Mac population are more likely to have the latest & greatest hardware and be tech elitists & power users.
The average Mac user keeps a Mac much longer than PC users and longer than probably most people on most Mac tech website forums like this. So it's more a valid criticism than tech power users here would have you think.

Even I have an Intel Mac now. I'll try the Chrome browser out, but I doubt I'll use it every day because I won't be able to use on all my PPC Macs.

Linux isn't a dead platform. There are fewer and fewer PPC users every year. The only direction for PPC use to head is DOWN. Linux, however, is alive, current, and under constant development.

[MorphingDragon]

Linux isn't a dead platform.

But Linux isn't exactly living either. Not with the atrocity that is GPL3 anyway. Even GPL based developers are scared to touch GPL3.

[5DollaFootlong]

Wow. I installed it and it runs insanely fast.

[resonator]

I noticed Chrome doesn't display the videos created by Quicktime X's save for web feature. Now both Firefox and Chrome on both Window's PC's and Macs do not display these videos when embedded using Apple's recommended code.

[Xibalba]

Who uses bookmark managers tied to a browser any more? That's what delicious and the hundreds of other similar sites out there are for.

I'd be annoyed if I couldn't access my home bookmarks at work, or wanted to show my friend a video I found randomly (on their computer), or access my bookmarks between laptops, or access my faves at my parents' house - and couldn't. What would you do if your computer completely died?

I completely agree - that's primarily why I have stuck with Firefox over the years by using Foxmarks (now called Xmarks since it can sync other browsers).

I love it when someone takes a browser so personally as to defend it as the "best" compared to the others. Just use whichever one you personally prefer the most. I welcome new innovations so as to inspire new developments in current "standards."

That being said, I love Chrome for Windows due to speed and light memory footprint. As far as the mac, I will use the new Chrome until I find enough problems to return to Firefox. As much as I wanted to like Safari, I personally found my web pages performing better in Firefox and until recently, Xmarks did not support Safari.

[*LTD*]

Slightly OT:

Which is the Safari extension/plugin that puts a list of bookmarks in thumbnail format down the side of the browser (OmniWeb style)?

I post on MR via NetNewsWire's built-in browser and I love the thumbnail tabs. :o

EDIT: nevermind, it's SafariStand. ;)

EDIT: Looks bad and doesn't play nice with the Evernote plugin. Bye bye, SafariStand.

[bobertoq]

yeah i did. the reason it sucks to have one box for search and addresses is that the computer must decide whether or not you're searching or typing in an address. For example, say you're typing in "mac rumors" in your search bar. the computer won't know if you mean you're searching for a site that has rumors about macs or if you're searching for www.macrumors.com.

that's why this system sucks.Not if you have MacRumors as a bookmark or if it's in your history. That's the way it was on Windows, anyway. I'm yet to try Chrome on the Mac.

[Maserati7200]

Safari does allow search queries in the address bar (command-F)
No, CMD-F is to find text on a web page itself, not to search the web, which he was talking about. On FF and Chrome, and Camino, you can search the wen simply by typing something in the address bar and hitting enter.
What.!!!! No PPC version. :(
Not to sound like BRLawyer, but PPC is dead, or close to death at least. Live with it.

[Xibalba]

yeah i did. the reason it sucks to have one box for search and addresses is that the computer must decide whether or not you're searching or typing in an address. For example, say you're typing in "mac rumors" in your search bar. the computer won't know if you mean you're searching for a site that has rumors about macs or if you're searching for www.macrumors.com.

that's why this system sucks.

actually if you type anything into the box, your first option is to search that phrase using google and the many other dropboxes below contain different derivations of your phrase in urls or with pages containing content based on your entered phrase. the first option below the search will be the url of a page your have either visited or is in your bookmarks.

quite a simple and effective system.

[Xibalba]

It´s just a browser, how can anyone get excited about this?

since a lot of people use their computers to interact with the internet and the web browser is the primary vehicle for navigating the web, it makes sense that people would care about the performance, functionality, and user interface of their browser. and having many to choose from helps each person find the best one for them.

[amirite]

wow, not having a separate search box blows so bad.... and it doesen't look better than Safari. however, the tabs behavior is better. Like if you open a new tab from a tab in the middle of all your tabs, the new tab comes up in the middle too, not at the end of the tabs.

After using one bar for search/addresses I can't stand Safari having two bars. It's really pointless.

And I don't understand your point about typing macrumors. Type Macrumors in the search bar and it will search for macrumors, or if you've been there before it will probably fill in the address for you.

If it fills in the address for you, but you still for some reason want to search for macrumors then just press the down arrow and enter and it will search for it instead.

This is really a non-issue and I have no idea what you're trying to prove.

[exabytes18]

I like waking up in the morning only to discover that Chrome had automatically updated itself and I could now install extensions.

Transparent, seemless updates are underrated.

[Xibalba]

For those that care, there is already a work-around for installing Google Chrome Extensions on a Mac and several extensions seem to have been tested without any problems.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/08/install-chrome-extensions-mac/

[Habakuk]

Doesn't make a difference to me. I think it's a little faster than Safari.

+1

There is a little graphic glitch in the wordpress.com editor with Safari but with Chrome it works.

In a rather long blog posting (http://rossau.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/turmverteidigung-tridefense/) one image is not displayed correctly by Chrome. It shows up like in the screenshot attached. Okay it's beta...

[*LTD*]

I like waking up in the morning only to discover that Chrome had automatically updated itself and I could now install extensions.

Transparent, seemless updates are underrated.

In a way, I find this quite refreshing.

[Lostanddamned]

I downloaded it, because I have an intense dislike for Safari (it just doesn't seem to do what I want it to do, the way I want it to. Ever) and Firefox is wonderful normally, except for the constant crashes and needs for restarts...

Normally, I'd be happy to write a short review of the browsers features and how it felt to use etc. But in this case, the product is quite simply unfinished. Bookmarks organiser (EG the ability to delete a bookmark) is missing, as are a variety of other features. For example, I unchecked "always show the bookmarks bar" thinking that would turn on an auto-hide effect, which would be handy, but no; Turning off "always show" hides it, and as the option to turn this on again is hidden in the View menu option, this at first seems permanent.

I will check out a later release I think. For now, this is worse than useless.

[NetScheduler]

How is being critical of every product funny? Wouldn't blindly approving every product be more humorous? I can like my MBP but hate the iPhone. I can like Android and hate Youtube. I can like my Toyota Celica but hate the Toyota Yaris.

I supposed because you like Safari, you love Apple's HiFI?

Absolutely!!! WIFI was a wonderful product - I have 5 of them and they are so "elegant" and "gorgeous" .. What do they sound like?? Who cares, they are an Apple product, aren't they? That means they are "elegant" and so "delicious" looking. And the back of it looks better than the front of the other guys!

Steve said Safari is the BEST browser!!! Why try anything else?? I don't want Google's "Clunky" browser - I "skate to where the puck is going to be"!

Go Steve!!!!!!!!

[Davieis]

Anyone finding the scrolling to be much jerkier than Safari?

[scottness]

Anyone figure out how to open links in a new window instead of a tab by default? I know you can right-click... but that's what I'm used to.

[Eluzion]

Peacekeeper Browser Benchmark:
Safari: 3267
Chrome: 2982

I've used Chrome a bit before this beta. It seems to be a very fast and stable browser (feels faster than Safari at times). I'm a fan of the integrated download window and the status bar at the bottom that automatically pops up. I also like how links that usually open up as a completely new window, open up as a new tab. Overall, I like it and will continue to use it on occasion to determine if it's worth switching to full time use. So far, Safari has served me well but I can't stand when my MBP fans kick on every time I watch a flash video in Safari... (doesn't seem to happen as often with Chrome or as quickly, if at all).

[HLdan]

It´s just a browser, how can anyone get excited about this?

People here get excited over software updates that show no significant signs of change. At least Google Chrome is new software, well, it's new on the Mac. ;)

[felt.]

cheers for the tip about enabling extensions in chromium! now that the https://chrome.google.com/extensions/ page is live trying out all the extensions, definitely looks promising, might have to ditch minefield

[fewture]

i like it,

tried to like safari but eventually went back to firefox

but chrome feels nicer than firefox.

will probably be my new browser.

(Although I don't like Google's privacy policy - on principle, but all ISPs do it anyway)

[Livestfastest]

I like waking up in the morning only to discover that Chrome had automatically updated itself and I could now install extensions.

Transparent, seemless updates are underrated.

I'm the exact opposite.
I like automatic updates as much as I love spyware. I disable auto updates on every program possible and routinely do periodic updates of lots of programs in a batch when I have the time rather than give the developer control of my computer when I'm busy and they decide to slow me down. If I could control all updates to happen overnight when I'm asleep, maybe, just maybe, I'd like auto updates.

[scott523]

Here are my first impressions of Chrome. Overall it looks promising. However, it'll take A LOT to convince me to switch from Safari. The time it takes to open Chrome is halved compared to Safari. The memory usage is impressive, using at least 5 times LESS than what my Safari uses upon application startup. Able to import Safari browsing history. Incognito window is a great feature.

However, my Safari has Speed Download manager and Glims extension incorporated into the browser, offering me customizable settings to improve browsing experience whereas Chrome is just bare bones. Safari Top Sites looks more appealing than Chrome, its password saver/autofill needs improvement, it requires 'command+option+arrowkey' to select tab, and the address bar isn't great for me (or maybe it was still trying to learn).

MY Peacekeeper Browser Benchmarks (running a 3 year old MacBook):

Safari 4.0.4 : 3053
Chrome Beta : 2561

[skinnylegs]

I fail to see what all of the excitement is about other than the fact that it's new. Have at it but I'll stick with Safari.

[sochet]

I'm getting some very weird CPU usage, it will go from periodically using 30 dd percent when streaming video to flat out 100% for 5 minutes then back down, neither Opera, Safari or FF does this



(2.53 unibody MBP haven't tried it on my MP)

[gibbz]

Peacemaker Browser Benchmark (http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action)

Late 2008 MacBook 2.4GHz 4GB RAM

Safari 4.0.4 - 3157
Firefox 3.5.5 - 1601
Chrome 4.0.249.30 - 3357


Early 2008 Mac Pro 8x2.8GHz 16GB RAM

Safari 4.0.4 - 4053
Firefox 3.5.5 - 1933
Chrome 4.0.249.30 - 3967

[Analog Kid]

Does anyone know of a way to block those nasty nasty adverts? on Chrome?:(
Google is an advertising company, they aren't going to make it easy to block ads.

[scott523]

Google is an advertising company, they aren't going to make it easy to block ads.
Glimmer Blocker works nicely.

[inkswamp]

Stick to your slow, resource hogging browser. "Cute" on the outside, but not much inside.


I love when people try to take down Safari because it has an aesthetically pleasing UI. :D

Safari was the first browser to pass the Acid2 test. Current version of Safari passes Acid 3 with flying colors. FF doesn't pass it. IE doesn't either.

Safari blows FF and IE out of the water when it comes to Javascript speed and rendering. I've done some programming in JS that moves lots of elements around the screen and Safari is the only one that can do it smoothly. FF is particularly bad with this.

Resource hog? Please. Its primary competition is Firefox and IE. Are you kidding? By comparison, Safari is light as a feather.

Say what you will about Safari, but there's a lot more to it than a cute exterior.

[arkmannj]

Why all the emotional attachment (or hate) towards a particular browser ?

I find that most days I bounce between Safari, Firefox, and Chrome. They all have things they do best, and weaknesses, so I use each for it's strengths and move on. actually helps me keep things more organized anyway.

[synth3tik]

Google is an advertising company, they aren't going to make it easy to block ads.


What? Google put ads on the BETA? WTF?

[Caralvarez24]

Does anyone know a way to edit bookmarks? If you go to tools, "bookmark manager" is greyed out. Not sure if maybe its just disabled in this beta?

[Maserati7200]

Anyone else here use Camino? I discovered this gem a 4 months ago and I love it!

[LeoNobilis]

Intel-only!

What if I desire to install it on all of my computers!
Curse it, Apple wouldn't even repair the faulty motherboards in both of my PowerBooks for I was a little late acknowledging the problems!

Bloody Google, they'd sell their own mothers for money! No backbone there!

[akadmon]

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[theBigD23]

I'm having Expose issues as well. The windows rearrange completely off when having Chrome open. Exit from Chrome and everything works fine.

Here is my specific issue. If anyone else is having this, please post. This is happening on two computers:
"This only happens when Chrome is opened, the windows display oddly when in Expose.
For example, when two non Google Chrome applications are open, it show one on top and one on the bottom. When Chrome is open, (and only a total of two applications open) it shows one window to the right, another in the middle, and the left is a large blank area.
The same thing happens with three applications. When Chrome is open, the windows are top left, top right, and bottom right. When close, it's two at the top and one in the middle at the bottom. This is very odd behavior and I can replicate it on two machines very easily."

[foshizzle]

Although I am very happy to see the mac version in beta (which means I feel it is ready for me to use full-time to try out), I think the real news is the Linux version. using it full screen just seems to scream ChromeOS, by the way it is very sleek and slim, has an activity monitor for each tab (to view cpu/mem usage), and just integrates so well.

Job well done on the linux version - looking forward to what chromeOS has to offer.

[exabytes18]

I'm the exact opposite.
I like automatic updates as much as I love spyware. I disable auto updates on every program possible and routinely do periodic updates of lots of programs in a batch when I have the time rather than give the developer control of my computer when I'm busy and they decide to slow me down. If I could control all updates to happen overnight when I'm asleep, maybe, just maybe, I'd like auto updates.

I understand where you're coming from. The scheme isn't right for all software, but I believe it's well suited here. I like having the most up-to-date software but hate having programs nagging me to update. I don't want to open Firefox and discover that it thinks now is a good time to install updates. Likewise for Safari. Apple, just say no to popup dialogs prompting about new software available to download. Don't bother me, just give me the updates. Chrome satisfies all of my desires.

With Chrome, I have honestly never caught it upgrading itself. It's not like it's eating CPU time and causing tons of obnoxious IO. In any case, I remember seeing an article about Google pioneering some new technology with Google Chrome that allowed them drastically cut the size of each update.

Besides, I trust Google not to litter my computer with spyware. ;)

[objc]

EDIT: nevermind, it's SafariStand. ;)

EDIT: Looks bad and doesn't play nice with the Evernote plugin. Bye bye, SafariStand.
I'm in love with anything that makes flash disabled by default. Who cares what it looks like.

[okrelayer]

its the mac- centric features that keep me using safari, although i will give chrome a spin for a few days.

in safari i enjoy

in-browser pdf viewing
dictionary
speak options
highlighting a non clickable download url, and having it start downloading by right clicking
cover flow in history
the clean look over all, like not having favicons all over the bookmarks bar
the ability to customize the tool bar.

[Cassie]

Not to sound like BRLawyer, but PPC is dead, or close to death at least. Live with it.

Yeah, but you can't blame us PPC users for sticking with our faithful machines. ;) I'm disappointed there isn't a PPC version too, but that's the cost of progress I suppose.

[objc]

Oh, you are so right about Flash on PPC, what a disaster and it just keeps getting worse and worse.
Are you implying that Flash on Intel OS X is not a disaster???


But as to some other points about Chrome and PPC, why Linux & not PPC?

"Companies have, mostly based on web server statistics, estimated that the desktop market share of Linux range from less than 1% to 2.14%. "
(source:

What about mobile devices? Remember, Android is based on Linux. And then you have Google's new ChromeOS, also based on Linux. Google hopes to increase their share in these markets.

[ChazUK]

Google is an advertising company, they aren't going to make it easy to block ads.

O'rly (https://chrome.google.com/extensions/search?q=ad+block)?

Did you even take time to research what you were writing? :confused:


EDIT: My own solution to ad-blocking is universal as I block them via the "block sites" feature on my wireless router.

[Habakuk]

I'm getting some very weird CPU usage, it will go from periodically using 30 dd percent when streaming video to flat out 100% for 5 minutes then back down, neither Opera, Safari or FF does this

+1

Experienced the same when visited YouTube.

Does anyone know of a way to block those nasty nasty adverts? on Chrome?:(

AdThwart (https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb)? (Not tested.)

[MorphingDragon]

Meh, Chrome has very bad memory management... and this is against a BETA version of Opera.

http://dotnetperls.com/v7

[ceezy3000]

Anyone else here use Camino? I discovered this gem a 4 months ago and I love it!

meeeee

[strikeinsilence]

Can someone post the old blue/grey logo for Chrome? I'm liking the browser, but I can't stand the colors of the icon in my dock.

[gibbz]

If interested, here are the results of the SunSpider Javascript benchmarks I ran on a 2008 Mac Pro 8x2.8GHz 16GB RAM

The 1st image is Safari vs. Chrome
The 2nd image is Safari vs. Firefox
The 3rd image is Chrome vs. Firefox

[ekdor]

I kind of like it. But some thins I can't seem to work out, perhaps it's just that I haven't figured it out. Note that my comments are compared to Safari and FireFox, both I use. But some comments are not relevant to one or the other.

Complaints:

* Can't seem to manage history, only delete the day.
* Can't seem to manage bookmarks.
* Can't seem to access BookMarks other than in menu unless I happen to create them in the bookmarks bar!
* Bookmarks list when creating a bookmark is CAOTIC!
* Can't create a bookmark by dragging text or favicon (there isn't one) form the address bar to the bookmarks bar or to create a new tab (duplicate tab).
* Edit button found when adding bookmarks seems to be pointless.
* Close buttons on tabs look like XP, yuck!!!
* Address bar and tabs graphics look a bit 90's. Hope there are ways to theme them.
* Application icon sucks but can change that.
* Like the themes, work better than firefox's personas. But there are no favorites that I can see.
* Can't work out how to Block adds or install other add-ons? Not apparent to me yet.
* Click on "Language settings" and nothing happens.

Like:

* Stretchy fields.
* Tabs are clear to read, can depend on theme a little.
* Tabs for history, downloads.
* The status bar is a bit more useful than others.

Neutral:

* Otherwise. Speed seems much the same to me compared to safari and firefox.

Hmm I could probably go on, maybe this isn't so good after all... Will stick with FF for now.

--- Edit ---

Hmm. I have used it for a couple of hours. If many issues were dealt with I'd seriously consider give it a shot. But something in me just doesn't trust google.

I think it's because they have their hands in everything and much of it is ad based which tend to benefit marketers with aims to sell to targeted markets/users. If they could literally push a button and I bought something, completely with no say, they would. Not far off from, if they could just deduct from my bank account they would. Hence my view of Google is they are on the side of marketers and not their general users (which I am) whom aren't marketers but rather the market/users.

[Michel Jhon]

It's Google chrome, and trust me i've tried them both.
But Firefox has an advantage: you can make it how ever you want. I mean, that it has alot of add-ons that you can use, among others. I'm not sure how to explain this, but you an watch this video, that explains better wich is better, by doing several "rounds" that tests each of their advantages.


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[bajee]

But Linux isn't exactly living either. Not with the atrocity that is GPL3 anyway. Even GPL based developers are scared to touch GPL3.

Well one reason I can think of why they're supporting Linux platform rather than PPC (having a universal binary), is Chrome OS.

Basically Chrome OS is built from Linux. Obviously, its easier for them to deliver a linux version of Chrome than on a OSX. :)

[253916]

What's the point of using safari actually since they disabled fancy blue progress indicator?

[Superdelphinus]

ooh goody. If it handles links to new tabs better than safari, and scrolls better than firefox then i'm in

[iFirmware]

i wouldnt say its any faster then safari, and quite frankly, i love safari

[rdlink]

Not sure which version of Chrome some of you are using versus mine, but I'm finding it much faster at rendering pages than Safari.

Not sure I like the interface as much as Safari. The tabs being flipped on top of the address bar is a little disorienting to me. Maybe it's just a matter of getting used to it, but I've been bugged by that same issue in the Win version, also.

A little irritated that even though it supposedly imported all of my settings from Safari it conveniently forgot that my Safari home page was not Google...