Claimed Tablet Video Sparks Questionable Speculation of Apple Tablet

[MacRumors]

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French site Nowhereelse.fr has published (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/video-tabletmac-mactablet-apple-decembre-2009-27226/) [Google translation (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=auto%7Cen&u=http://www.nowhereelse.fr/video-tabletmac-mactablet-apple-decembre-2009-27226/&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgfmiC7wiTSGoD3VWu4JgzJhWPIFQ)] what appears at first glance to be a video of a tablet computer being used to browse a touch-enabled version of an IKEA catalog. The sleek profile and iPhone-like status bar at the top of the screen have led to speculation that the device might be Apple's much-rumored tablet device.

The video demonstrates a feature similar to Cover Flow to aid in navigation, appearing to possibly offer previews of JavaScript menu navigation items. It also reveals a "shake to shuffle" feature on product listing pages to allow the user to view a new selection of items within a given category. Finally, the user is shown applying different color options to products by both tapping on color swatches in the case of a chair and by dragging swatches into a large image in the case of cabinetry.



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[bross00]

It's pretty cool whatever it is....

[wackymacky]

Even though it's a likely fake, I do like the cover-flow effect.

Not quite sure though how this would be achieved without a seperate OS for the tablet, which is unliekly

[tetrapulse]

∞

[foobarbaz]

Very nice mockup. It's unlikely that IKEA would spend enough much money for such an elaborate app, and as usual the video is conveniently fuzzy... but it looks yummy. :)

[wesleyh]

Looks like a nice enough interface, wouldn't mind if this was the real deal.

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

That is a sweet mockup. But, apart from going to IKEA and being a gimmick, I don't see what it should be used for.

[DEE9299]

It looks cool ...actually looks like a big iPhone or iTouch

[dwright1974]

That is a sweet mockup. But, apart from going to IKEA and being a gimmick, I don't see what it should be used for.

Reading the newspaper, (er, e-paper :D), books (Turn it on its side), Tesco shopping list.

"Want to buy a chair or Kitchen from Ikea - there's an App for that!"

If that is it, I'm in!

- D

EDIT: Loving the prices being in Pounds - it must be coming to the UK first!

[hamis92]

I have no idea how thin and light Apple is going to make it, but is it just me or does the tablet seem to be too light on the video?

[Zweben]

Some of the drag movements look suspiciously smooth, and many of the response times seem unrealistically quick. I'm guessing this is another case of someone pre-making a video with interface interactions, putting it on a device and timing out their hand movements to sync with the video. If that's the case, though, he did a pretty good job syncing it.

[adamw]

Looks real to me... Would be nice if it were a true leak of the upcoming tablet.

[Vector]

Why are there images of an old eMate 300 and Newton 100 in the background?

[Peace]

Why are there images of an old eMate 300 and Newton 100 in the background?

Didn't Apple re-hire the developer of the Newton ?

[dwright1974]

Why are there images of an old eMate 300 and Newton 100 in the background?

French humour!?

- D

[Willis]

It seems I wasn't the only one who noticed the price in UK Sterling.

However, in the top left you can see signal bars and some logo..

That does look cool, but, I still cant why Apple would move into this market, it still too small. Then again, it could be the revolution the market needs and make Apple the big boys

[42gb]

It looks great and is a promising example of what a tablet can be (like an affordable laptop Surface PC).

BUT as pointed out on Gizmodo, the guy's hands cause shadows on the surface of the tablet, which makes evident the use of a green screen to fake the interface.

[Jason Lee]

Obviously a fake. It's not glassy enough.

[MrCheeto]

As a person that can point out bad CGI like a white guy in Lil' Wayne concert, I'll tell you RIGHT NOW the screen images are super imposed. Don't deny it.

1: When he flicks it, the image position does not sync up for several frames.

2: When was the last time you saw a shadow on a backlit screen?! That's like seeing a shadow on a 100w lightbulb.

thank you, now you see why movies like Transformers and Terminator 3 are my kryptonite

[broken-chaos]

The rotate in the first few seconds of the video is wrong. All Apple touchscreen devices to date have rotated with a rotation animation, not a fade animation.

[MrCheeto]

Not to mention ZERO reflection, look at any video of iPhones on Youtube in that kind of lighting...

[pmjoe]

Seems like you'd want to hold it from what he uses for the top/bottom. He's just barely gripping it with his left thumb and edge of his hand to keep his hand off the screen.

At first glance, it looks big, but then if you compare to the size of his hands it seems small.

I'd want to see how text input works on it.

[adder7712]

All Apple touchscreen devices to date have rotated with a rotation animation, not a fade animation. But we'll never know until Apple released it.

About the video, I'm not convinced.

[DARKJ3DI]

iWANT

[appleguy123]

hmm, the (X) to close the window is on the upper-right ..

.. unlike OSX, iPhone OS, and Apple's site:

Its in dashboard on the Mac OS

[na1577]

While I don't believe this video is real, I do think this is how the eventual Apple tablet will function.

[dacreativeguy]

hmm, the (X) to close the window is on the upper-right ..

.. unlike OSX, iPhone OS, and Apple's site:

Someone else mentioned that the prices were in English Pounds. Therefore, it makes sense for the controls to be opposite of those in the US, just like with cars. :)

[JAJ]

Didn't Apple re-hire the developer of the Newton ?

I really hope so.

And why does this video seem so real and convincing to me...it just looks right except for that wrong corner "x" business.

[MrCheeto]

Well...I would imagine Transformers and the Matrix seem real to you too, hahaha.

Study film techniques and the clues are staring you right in the face. FAKE!

[MacFly123]

The software looks pretty cool, but I don't like how the tablet itself looks. Those big chins on the top and bottom are too much on a bigger tablet! Not very sleek :o

[Feng Shui]

Bit confused... I thought Apple always (?) placed the close button in the top-left corner. I hope the real one stays in the top-left corner!

[pc-proud]

Reading the newspaper, (er, e-paper :D), books (Turn it on its side), Tesco shopping list.

"Want to buy a chair or Kitchen from Ikea - there's an App for that!"

If that is it, I'm in!

- D

EDIT: Loving the prices being in Pounds - it must be coming to the UK first!

{sigh..} It was in pounds because it came from France. Did you notice the .FR from the LINK.

[Nermal]

{sigh..} It was in pounds because it came from France. Did you notice the .FR from the LINK.

What do pounds have to do with France? :confused:

[Rocketman]

If you tried to view this shortly after it was posted, you know why streaming sucks.

The internet needs a spawning service for surge popular content.

Store-forward, not streaming.

Rocketman

[MrCheeto]

Listen, the guy clearly went out of his way to try and fool you all, even adding a nice flicker to the display to put to rest any questions, however when was the last time Apple had a small INTERLACE display?

It's FAKE for certain, you might as well be arguing if the Scooby-Doo movie used puppets or CG...

[JAJ]

Listen, the guy clearly went out of his way to try and fool you all, even adding a nice flicker to the display to put to rest any questions, however when was the last time Apple had a small INTERLACE display?

It's FAKE for certain, you might as well be arguing if the Scooby-Doo movie used puppets or CG...

based on the lighting and various other aspects i have to think that it's real

[jbellanca]

Regardless of whether it's real or not, this is exactly the type of device I'm dying to get.

[42gb]

Nope, it's fake. The shadows give it away.

[inkswamp]

Not to mention ZERO reflection, look at any video of iPhones on Youtube in that kind of lighting...

Which reminds me of my only concerns about a tablet from Apple. If they make it like a big iPhone, that glass touchscreen is just going to scream out to be accidentally broken. My iPhone's screen is relatively small spends a lot of time in the safety of my pocket--neither of which would be true of a tablet.

[Willis]

{sigh..} It was in pounds because it came from France. Did you notice the .FR from the LINK.

France uses € and UK uses £... ;)

Its in dashboard on the Mac OS

I think he meant that the cross is on the wrong side (right as apposed to left)

[JAJ]

the zero reflection thing, debatable

Which reminds me of my only concerns about a tablet from Apple. If they make it like a big iPhone, that glass touchscreen is just going to scream out to be accidentally broken. My iPhone's screen is relatively small spends a lot of time in the safety of my pocket--neither of which would be true of a tablet.

Sorry and not to be trollish, but I've never had a problem(not even when playing football or basketball)

France uses € and UK uses £... ;)



I think he meant that the cross is on the wrong side (right as apposed to left)

I believe he meant that dashboard puts it on the right(which it does, when other apple stuff uses the left)

[Nermal]

It's on the left in Dashboard...

[huntercr]

That is a sweet mockup. But, apart from going to IKEA and being a gimmick, I don't see what it should be used for.

looks to me like this is a sample "catalog" format that Apple might be pitching to clients.

I think it would be pretty awesome if you could shop that way casually.

There's an apple Newton in the background top right. Fake or not, to me that proves the person making the video wants to reallly make you to think he's got an exclusive.
( the fact that it hasn't been taken down yet makes me think it's a fake )

It's pretty cool though, I'll give it that.

This device, fake or not, has a feature I really wondered about how Apple was going to tackle.

If you notice , the screen is not centered. There's a border on one side ( at the top when it's landscaped )

That is truly a perfect practical innovative... it lets you comfortably hold the device one handed without smudging. And combine thie with the orientation sensors and you can make it so, in portrait mode, a left handed people holds in while a right handed person holds it the other direction, and it adjusts the screen accordingly.

Genius!

And thanks to "Doctor Q" who has nothing better to do but edit my posts, all my comments are now out of context.
Those were 3 different topics, sir. Yes, they were posted all in a row, but one was a response to someone and the other 2 were different topics.
I was trying to spur conversaiton since there were not very many people talking in this thread at the time.
Could you please stop using your moderator power for things that are your personal taste? I didn't violate any board rules, and I didn't post anything large or distracting or volumeous.

[MrCheeto]

Listen, I'm not going to argue with a generation that poos themself over AVATAR'S special effects. It's like arguing with a blind person about the color of the room they're in. I know better, I have the eye for this stuff. It SCREAMS super-imposed screen images. The shadow of his left thumb is a result of the chroma-keyed screen, either blue or green, having a shadow of his thumb on it due to lighting. Because of this it creates a sort of "shadow" in the composite shot. It would be impossible in REALITY to create a shadow on a source of light -.-' elementary physics here
When he flicks it, the superimposed image does not sync with the chroma-keyed background and it's as though the screen images "detach" from the screen. There is NO glare on the screen, and the lighting is not simulated well at all.

AGAIN, there would be no screen flicker if this was real because the image would be progressive scan, take a video of your iPhone screen why doncha?

When he flicks it you see a glare travel up the lower part yet it doesn't effect the so-called screen?! FAKE! IT'S DEFINITIVE!

But just to go on, his hands stand out as they've been keyed in thus creating sharp lines when in REALITY they would be smooth and natural.

Look at this scene from Return of the Jedi and if you agree the man in front looks super-imposed onto the image of the Rancor then you will understand why the tablet video is a CLEAR fake!

http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/article/100/1001652/ocd-star-wars-malakili-the-rancor-keeper-20090707004811613_640w.jpg

Of course if you can't see the apparent eye-gouging outline around the man...there's no hope for you, get back to gawking at The Day the Earth Stood Still.

[Mars478]

Bigfoot!

[MrCheeto]

Woah woah, now THAT'S real, k don't start knocking bigfoot suddenly I swearz I know he's out there...remember the guys that put him in an ice chest and then were never heard from again? Proof.

[inkswamp]

Listen, I'm not going to argue with a generation that poos themself over AVATAR'S special effects. It's like arguing with a blind person about the color of the room they're in. I know better, I have the eye for this stuff. It SCREAMS super-imposed screen images. The shadow of his left thumb is a result of the chroma-keyed screen, either blue or green, having a shadow of his thumb on it due to lighting. Because of this it creates a sort of "shadow" in the composite shot. It would be impossible in REALITY to create a shadow on a source of light -.-' elementary physics here
When he flicks it, the superimposed image does not sync with the chroma-keyed background and it's as though the screen images "detach" from the screen. There is NO glare on the screen, and the lighting is not simulated well at all.

AGAIN, there would be no screen flicker if this was real because the image would be progressive scan, take a video of your iPhone screen why doncha?

When he flicks it you see a glare travel up the lower part yet it doesn't effect the so-called screen?! FAKE! IT'S DEFINITIVE!

But just to go on, his hands stand out as they've been keyed in thus creating sharp lines when in REALITY they would be smooth and natural.

Look at this scene from Return of the Jedi and if you agree the man in front looks super-imposed onto the image of the Rancor then you will understand why the tablet video is a CLEAR fake!

http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/article/100/1001652/ocd-star-wars-malakili-the-rancor-keeper-20090707004811613_640w.jpg

Of course if you can't see the apparent eye-gouging outline around the man...there's no hope for you, get back to gawking at The Day the Earth Stood Still.

Two questions.

1. Who exactly in this thread is arguing with you so vociferously that it merits this kind of response? Seems to me you're just looking for an excuse to shout about your video expertise and frankly, nobody cares.

2. Do you realize how arrogant and holier-than-thou your overall tone is? If you do possess the expertise you claim, you're going to turn people against you for being so needlessly in-your-face about it.

I'm sure everyone here welcomes your input every bit as much as I do, but FFS, try a different tone.

[MrCheeto]

And then Jesus said...

[JAJ]

It's on the left in Dashboard...


haha, i must have changed mine then...opps.

[Doctor Q]

From the first few seconds of the video, whatever that device is appears to be weigh very little.

[MrCheeto]

Yes, it is likely a vacuu-formed prop, nothing like the heft of the iPhone/iPods.

[mambodancer]

I'm betting this is a prototype of the actual product.

[twoodcc]

that's a cool video. i don't think that's the apple tablet, but it could be similar. i sure can't wait for it!

[pc-proud]

What do pounds have to do with France? :confused:

OK, I was refering to the fact that the video whether fake or not was generated overseas in France maybe due to the .FR on the link. I mistakenly thought Pounds and Euro's where the same (like we have dollars and coins)when in fact, they are 2 seperate monetary units. Either way, I sighed bc the comment was made in reference to the gentleman thinking bc of the "Pounds" that it would be launching in the UK 1st when it was likely there bc of where the video was made. If Apple is really making a tablet, it's almost a sure thing that it's launching statewide USA then trickle overseas.

Sorry for the confusion.

Keith

[aucl]

The rotate in the first few seconds of the video is wrong. All Apple touchscreen devices to date have rotated with a rotation animation, not a fade animation.

By default yes, but i think fade effects are supported.
I think even with the iTunes LP format that is possible; which is basically a webkit enhanced HTML+CSS+JS package.

But i'm pretty sure Apple would not make an ikea catalog.
It just looks like one more demonstration of this e-newspaper platform TIME showed of in another mock up.
If publishing/ad houses start having the possibility, i'm sure they will use it. They have this complex web catalogs already, the print issues, this would bring now something in between.

[dwright1974]

OK, I was refering to the fact that the video whether fake or not was generated overseas in France maybe due to the .FR on the link. I mistakenly thought Pounds and Euro's where the same (like we have dollars and coins)when in fact, they are 2 seperate monetary units. Either way, I sighed bc the comment was made in reference to the gentleman thinking bc of the "Pounds" that it would be launching in the UK 1st when it was likely there bc of where the video was made. If Apple is really making a tablet, it's almost a sure thing that it's launching statewide USA then trickle overseas.

Sorry for the confusion.

Keith

Of course it would be highly unlikely to be launched in the UK first. It was mild humour - perhaps I should have added numerous smileys after it?

Anyway, on revisiting the thread and watching the video again, I agree with the comments about the apparent lightness of the device itself, and the screen. It does look fake but I still think that if Apple did bring something like to this party, it would be big!

- D

[aucl]

The rotate in the first few seconds of the video is wrong. All Apple touchscreen devices to date have rotated with a rotation animation, not a fade animation.

By default yes, but i think fade effects are supported.
I think even with the iTunes LP format that is possible; which is basically a webkit enhanced HTML+CSS+JS package.

But i'm pretty sure Apple would not make an ikea catalog.
It just looks like one more demonstration of this e-newspaper platform TIME showed of in another mock up.
If publishing/ad houses start having the possibility, i'm sure they will use it. They have this complex web catalogs already, the print issues, this would bring now something in between.

[baryon]

While I can't tell for sure whether this is real or fake, I can say that the fact that the close button is on the right probably shows that there is a problem somewhere. What many of you are saying that there is a shadow on the screen which is impossible, it could just be a reflection, just like the reflection of the guy's left hand on the bottom left corner of the device. It is possible to make a fake like this, but if the screen were Chroma-Keyed out, how would the guy know where exactly to touch the screen? There would not be any guides on it so he would just be touching it randomly, which doesn't appear to be the case, since he also touched a series of very small buttons to change the color of something, so he seems like he knows where he's touching. Of course this can be done by faintly overlaying the green/blue screen with the graphics, but come on, that's a lot of work and effort, and what's the reward??

Also, if it were fake, it would be a LOT of wasted time since the animations on the device are very well designed, smooth, and coherent with Apple's designs (except for the top right close button). Designing an animation like this would take lots of effort, and I don't see why it would be worth it for anyone, we will know whether this was fake or not sooner or later anyway.

Either way, I could imagine the tablet being like it is on this video, very interactive and responsive.

[Haiii]

Fake. Too smooth and fast response to be real. And Apple will NEVER realease a product with that screen ratio!

[Bampei]

I don't care if that's a Apple or not.... I WANT ONE! Sweet!:D

[surferfromuk]

Whoever did the conceptualising on the actual app (or video) has been busy that's for sure - there is a lot of thought underlying the nature of that app.

If there is an Apple framework app that lets' end users build an app like that and get it out onto iTunes to use with a macTablet then it's a sure fire hit that could make iPhone look like small potatoes.

[Cromulent]

I sighed bc the comment was made in reference to the gentleman thinking bc of the "Pounds" that it would be launching in the UK 1st when it was likely there bc of where the video was made.

It's called humour. Don't worry.

[naman34]

OK, I've been reading all the threads, and seeing the video over and over again, Obviously you can't really say thats its an apple product, cuz cmon, apple is a leader in product design and many try to copy their style.
However, this can't be cgi.
See carefully. The whole outline of his hand is smooth, its not the super-imposed kind.
Then about the shadow, its normal on glossy screens, its like a reflection.
I agree that backlit screens don't get shadows, but on low brightness they do.
even on matte screens I tried.
Obviously the screen has to be on low brightness to be recorded properly.
The biggest evidence comes from the light on the hand.
The light on his hands is perfectly in sync with the screen, colors and everything.
So I think its a real device.
The only way it could be fake is if was just a tablet, playing a video, and the guy practicing with it.
Its probably not the apple tablet, but sure seems like something real.
Anyway if someone wanted to make a fake apple tablet, why the IKEA catalogue?
also if it really is fake and cgi, with such a attention to detail i'm sure the guy would have put the X on the left side.

Anyway, the technology to make something like this does exist!
SO WOW! I WANT!

[McDughf]

The rotate in the first few seconds of the video is wrong. All Apple touchscreen devices to date have rotated with a rotation animation, not a fade animation.

What About Going From Cover Flow To Song Listing In iPod Mode On An iPhone?

[McDughf]

OK, I've been reading all the threads, and seeing the video over and over again, Obviously you can't really say thats its an apple product, cuz cmon, apple is a leader in product design and many try to copy their style.
However, this can't be cgi.
See carefully. The whole outline of his hand is smooth, its not the super-imposed kind.
Then about the shadow, its normal on glossy screens, its like a reflection.
I agree that backlit screens don't get shadows, but on low brightness they do.
even on matte screens I tried.
Obviously the screen has to be on low brightness to be recorded properly.
The biggest evidence comes from the light on the hand.
The light on his hands is perfectly in sync with the screen, colors and everything.
So I think its a real device.
The only way it could be fake is if was just a tablet, playing a video, and the guy practicing with it.
Its probably not the apple tablet, but sure seems like something real.
Anyway if someone wanted to make a fake apple tablet, why the IKEA catalogue?
also if it really is fake and cgi, with such a attention to detail i'm sure the guy would have put the X on the left side.

Anyway, the technology to make something like this does exist!
SO WOW! I WANT!

I Am In FULL Agreement With You Here Mate. I Kept Looking For A Shadow All The Time, And Then I Though "They Don't Mean The REFLECTION Do They?"
Perhaps A Lot Of Apple Developers Are Too Afraid Of What Apple May Do To Them Should They Leak Footage, Which Is Why It Was A Third Party App That Has Been Leaked. Also, Its Still Not Finalised, Which Could Explain Why There Are Different Or Unfamilliar Transitions Or Other Things At Work Here, After All It Is A NEW Product And Apple May Be Testing New Techniques Out.

I Didn't Analyse The Video Like Our CSI Champs ( Chumps ?!? ;P ) On This Forum, But As Far As I Could Tell, It Was Not Composited. If I Am Wrong, Then Kudo's To The Artist.

Barney

[McDughf]

It is possible to make a fake like this, but if the screen were Chroma-Keyed out, how would the guy know where exactly to touch the screen? There would not be any guides on it so he would just be touching it randomly, which doesn't appear to be the case, since he also touched a series of very small buttons to change the color of something, so he seems like he knows where he's touching. Of course this can be done by faintly overlaying the green/blue screen with the graphics, but come on, that's a lot of work and effort, and what's the reward??


Whilst I Do Not Believe This To Be Fake ( Apple Or Otherwise ), The Usual Practice In Films And TV Where There Is A Computerised Or Holographic Interface Is To Design And Animate A User Interface Based On Where The Actors Hand Positions And Movements Were. They Have A Basic Idea What The OS Will Look Like, And Just Act From There. The CGI Artists Take Care Of The rest.

Back On Topic Though, I Do Like The Feel To This Device, And Whilst Some People May Complain Its Different To Apples Usual Methods, I Can Say I Still Prefer The Gen Three iPod Interface ( With Touch Wheel And Separate Function Buttons ) Over The Click Wheel And Even The iPod Touch / iPhone iPod Interface, But Thats Change / Evolution For You I Guess.

[McDughf]

Two questions.

1. Who exactly in this thread is arguing with you so vociferously that it merits this kind of response? Seems to me you're just looking for an excuse to shout about your video expertise and frankly, nobody cares.

2. Do you realize how arrogant and holier-than-thou your overall tone is? If you do possess the expertise you claim, you're going to turn people against you for being so needlessly in-your-face about it.

I'm sure everyone here welcomes your input every bit as much as I do, but FFS, try a different tone.

Hail Thee, InkSwamp!
I Think You Have Put Into Words What Everyone Here Has Been Thinking.
I Don't Think The Video Is Fake, But That's Just My Opinion. To Have Someone Impress Upon Us With So Much Vigour That It IS Fake, Makes Me Want To Believe Its Real Even More, Just So At The End We Can All Laugh At Ol' Gill Grissom Over There.
Reminds Me Of The Guy Who CSI Analysed The New Mac Mini Leak, By Drawing Lines On The Pictures Stating Something About Motherboard Impossibilities With The Five USB Ports. Three Days Later It Was Released, And...IT Was Released. Can You Say "Egg On Your Face?" :p

[Lesser Evets]

An interesting fake.

Why people go through so much hassle to make fakes like this confuses me.
The video on that screen has several problems people already discussed here.

[Compile 'em all]

Some of the drag movements look suspiciously smooth, and many of the response times seem unrealistically quick. .

Have you ever used an iPhone?

[sushi]

Fake or real, it looks interesting.

[Dagless]

hmm, the (X) to close the window is on the upper-right ..

.. unlike OSX, iPhone OS, and Apple's site:

That's what I thought too. But they might move that given that closing an app would mean putting your hand/arm over the window. Maybe they have a left/right hand options and adjust the placement of graphics according to that.

Maybe. I don't think its real but I would hope they do give us options for left/right handed users.

[mixel]

Fake or not it's a really nicely executed concept. :)

I cant imagine the real deal being much more impressive, lets wait and see though!

[surferfromuk]

Let's wait and see if there is a takedown notice :) (but I think it's a video.)

[MrCheeto]

What many of you are saying that there is a shadow on the screen which is impossible, it could just be a reflection, just like the reflection of the guy's left hand on the bottom left corner of the device. It is possible to make a fake like this, but if the screen were Chroma-Keyed out, how would the guy know where exactly to touch the screen?

Also, if it were fake, it would be a LOT of wasted time

1. Notice that it is solid from the bottom black portion ONTO the screen, however when he flicks it a light travels UP the black portion...and doesn't effect the screen images? Glare on the black part but not on the screen? Impossible.

2. In order to sync the CG images to the tablet you would have to place markers on it to allow the program a "stencil" or guide to follow, this could have easily been done with small white X's that would also work as the ACTOR'S cues. Look at the making of movies like Attack of the Clones.

3. A lot of websites will do a lot of work for...nothing really, just traffic. Why would Google go through all the trouble to make Chrome, what do they get from it?


The light on his hands is perfectly in sync with the screen, colors and everything.

also if it really is fake and cgi, with such a attention to detail i'm sure the guy would have put the X on the left side.


1. Key out the screen images and THEN watch his hand, it doesn't change one bit throughout the whole video. I saw this within 3 seconds when he lifted the dark black/gray menu and there was NO change to the light on his hand. You're imagining things, just take it into an editing program and key out the screen and you'll see.

2. Most fakes or CG artists for that matter leave "calling cards" or "minor hello's" meaning they leave something there so clear yet so esoteric that a certain target audience will catch onto it right away. Imagine if a fake moon landing was produced and they had a star field visible in the sky while on the surface, for people that know a thing or two about relative radiant energy they would call them out right away while the ill-informed went right along with it.

I Kept Looking For A Shadow All The Time, And Then I Though "They Don't Mean The REFLECTION Do They?"

So it will reflect his hand yet it wouldn't reflect those big lights in the ceiling that travel up the black glass portion yet somehow disappear in the screen portion? The only explanation to that is an anti-glare screen....not likely. As well the "glare" would be effected when the screen was displaying darker or lighter images...which it does not.

I'm done with this, I'll let this device NOT be released and that will do all the talking for me.

[TraceyS/FL]

So it will reflect his hand yet it wouldn't reflect those big lights in the ceiling that travel up the black glass portion yet somehow disappear in the screen portion? The only explanation to that is an anti-glare screen....not likely. As well the "glare" would be effected when the screen was displaying darker or lighter images...which it does not.

I'm done with this, I'll let this device NOT be released and that will do all the talking for me.

Did you read the thread on the screen rumor? It plays into the anti-glare/matte theory.

Just thought i'd point that out incase you missed it :D

[MrCheeto]

The screen reflects the miniscule light of a hand but not a large room light...right...

Just thought I'd point that out to you.

[G4R2]

That's what I thought too. But they might move that given that closing an app would mean putting your hand/arm over the window. Maybe they have a left/right hand options and adjust the placement of graphics according to that.

Maybe. I don't think its real but I would hope they do give us options for left/right handed users.

I agree. The position of the close gadget is not evidence that this isn't an Apple device. By the same logic an iPhone isn't an Apple device because because it lacks an Apple menu.

To clarify, simply the fact that the position of the x doesn't disprove that this is an Apple device shouldn't imply or suggest that it really is.

[TraceyS/FL]

The screen reflects the miniscule light of a hand but not a large room light...right...

Just thought I'd point that out to you.

I'm not arguing on the fake part - just that you said it was unlikely that it was an anti-glare screen, but that is what else popped up this week with the hybrid screen thingy. While i don't have a film background - i do have a photo one and can do a decent job nit-picking most special effects. Which i try to not let interfere with my entertainment.... try.

The video was too poor quality for me to discern much - because frankly, i don't care enough. I watched the embedded one on the web page.

The concept however, i really really like and hope that when we do see something that it is like this.

And that the screen is anti-glare/matte. :D

[iMacmatician]

Looks pretty nice (no comment on real/fake).

Seems closer to iPhone OS than Mac OS X, which is what I'd expect. I like the two toolbars as well as the animations.

[decksnap]

I'm not saying it's real, but on a screen this large, it would make sense to move the 'X' to the right so that the majority of users (right-handed people) could reach them easier, regardless of what the mouse-based OS X and small-screened iPhone do. There would probably also be an option to toggle it.

Edit... just watched it again. That is totally fake.

[iMacmatician]

hmm, the (X) to close the window is on the upper-right ..

.. unlike OSX, iPhone OS, and Apple's site:I'm not saying it's real either, but it's worth noting this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=3977498&postcount=652).

I'm not saying it's real, but on a screen this large, it would make sense to move the 'X' to the right so that the majority of users (right-handed people) could reach them easier, regardless of what the mouse-based OS X and small-screened iPhone do. This could be why, but I'm not sure how many people would have thought of that.

EDIT: Saw your edit. If it's fake it may be that the faker thought through all of this.

[Jawsome]

LOL at the beat from karmacoma by massive attack being in the background...

[inkswamp]

Hail Thee, InkSwamp!
I Think You Have Put Into Words What Everyone Here Has Been Thinking.
I Don't Think The Video Is Fake, But That's Just My Opinion. To Have Someone Impress Upon Us With So Much Vigour That It IS Fake, Makes Me Want To Believe Its Real Even More, Just So At The End We Can All Laugh At Ol' Gill Grissom Over There.

Despite what I said about anyone's demeanor, I too think it's a fake.

I've been following MR for many years and have seen some incredibly convincing fakes float through here. And while I can't quite put it into words, there's something about this video that doesn't feel right to me. I think it's the moment in the video where the user shakes the tablet. It doesn't appear to me that the screen blurs even slightly which leads me to believe the screen image was superimposed.

Still, there's a gray area about fakes. Sometimes there are people in-the-know about upcoming Apple products who put together these fakes so they can show what they've seen without actually showing the real product. That's happened a few times. So while the video may be fake, what we're seeing may be a real indication of what's to come.

[BRLawyer]

Some of the drag movements look suspiciously smooth, and many of the response times seem unrealistically quick. I'm guessing this is another case of someone pre-making a video with interface interactions, putting it on a device and timing out their hand movements to sync with the video. If that's the case, though, he did a pretty good job syncing it.

Looks like the REAL thing to me...it would be absolutely fantastic if it worked and looked like that.

[jcook793]

I think it's most likely fake, but one thing about the video stands out to me. If you notice when the tablet screen changes from dark to light or from light to dark, the video camera auto-adjusts the exposure accordingly. Watch the area around the tablet and you'll see it adjusting as the screen changes, especially noticeable at the very end of the video.

[keenan wolf]

I think it's most likely fake, but one thing about the video stands out to me. If you notice when the tablet screen changes from dark to light or from light to dark, the video camera auto-adjusts the exposure accordingly. Watch the area around the tablet and you'll see it adjusting as the screen changes, especially noticeable at the very end of the video.

i went back and watched the video and was just looking for things to stand out as fake. the X on the right makes sense for a tablet, it wouldn't surprise me if there was an option for left handed users.

i really do think this is real and that we could be seeing a tablet come March.

[mclihah2]

Get your iphone, and try to reproduce that shadow that he gets on the left hand side. You just can't do it, because the screen is white!

I agree, chroma key, or whatever. It's a fake. I hate it when people do this. I get all giddy, and then it's back down to earth again.l

:(

[MacTech68]

If fake, then I'd say it's a video being played on a handheld LCD of some type.

And for those saying the right-hand close proves it's fake, perhaps you should see what the developer of ikea's website normally does.

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/categories/departments/kitchen/

Just click on any + symbol and see where the close cross is....

Perhaps the "tablet app" has been developed by the same web developer. :confused:

But really, who cares? ;)
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[inkswamp]

i went back and watched the video and was just looking for things to stand out as fake. the X on the right makes sense for a tablet, it wouldn't surprise me if there was an option for left handed users.

i really do think this is real and that we could be seeing a tablet come March.

That makes a lot of sense. If a majority of the users are right-handed, they're going to hold the tablet with the left hand and manipulate with the right. You could make an argument that the UI should include the close button on the right side (so you can close windows without reaching all the way over to the left side of the tablet) with a preference setting to switch sides for lefties.

[ravenvii]

That makes a lot of sense. If a majority of the users are right-handed, they're going to hold the tablet with the left hand and manipulate with the right. You could make an argument that the UI should include the close button on the right side (so you can close windows without reaching all the way over to the left side of the tablet) with a preference setting to switch sides for lefties.

Exactly what I was thinking as well.

[Jayomat]

I believe he meant that dashboard puts it on the right(which it does, when other apple stuff uses the left)

it's on the upper left for me :confused:

[Haiii]

Have you ever used an iPhone?

This is Mac pro speed. Iphone 3GS is nowhere this fast.

[BeachChair]

The shadow is possible and expected if the tablet is using a Pixel Qi screen, which it is heavily rumored to be.

[surferfromuk]

At the 5 second mark - about 3 frames in - you can see the rotoscoping/match-move fail on the top left upper corner of the screen inlay. The edge 'lifts' and flaps for a frame or two.

But very well done, never-the-less.

[iMacmatician]

This is Mac pro speed. Iphone 3GS is nowhere this fast.If the tablet has significantly higher specs than the iPhone (which I'd expect), that would account for the speed.

[fat phil]

It's unquestionably a chromakey fake, all the hallmarks are there - constant lighting on the left hand, shadows on the screen, absence of contrast around the edges of the right hand (key fuzz)... but it's very good.

It's still pretty exciting because we know it's completely feasible. Can't wait for the real thing!

[combat]

The only benefit from having a supersize iPhone is possibly just faster hardware and better touch interface. Other than that, I'm perfectly content with an iPhone...

BUT IT LOOKS SO SHINY1!!

[iMacmatician]

The only benefit from having a supersize iPhone is possibly just faster hardware and better touch interface.Which means new software.

[mambodancer]

I think this may be an actual prototype of an Apple Device in development and not a fake. I'd be more inclined to think it a fake if it were demonstrating some other software, esp. an eBook reader as that would be very telling in the UI aspects than the Ikea software being demoed (which, in my mind, looks like that sort of software should behave on an apple tablet). The placement of certain UI elements or hardware controls in a prototype just demonstrate possible design considerations in the evolution of the final product. Just consider how the iPod evolved over the course of several years right up to just a few months before it actually shipped.

[michael.lauden]

The only benefit from having a supersize iPhone is possibly just faster hardware and better touch interface. Other than that, I'm perfectly content with an iPhone...

BUT IT LOOKS SO SHINY1!!

...



hopefully someone will quote this comment this time next year when you have 7 tablets

[FearlessFreep]

You guys can't be serious. This is so obviously fake.

[lPHONE]

i don't care what it is, I want one.

[Friscohoya]

That thing is hideous! How does it look in 8.5x11 mode? The black bars on top and bottom dont work and would not satisfy Mr. Jobs IMHO. Great UI, but poor hardware execution. I still like the mockup from Gizmodo. If there are bars on the screen it will be on top and bottom in the vertical orientation.

This is apple tablet goodness!!!

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/09/apple-tablet-natgeo.jpg

[Friscohoya]

Think about it. You need the black bars in landscape mode to prevent accidental touches when viewing web pages etc. In the vertical orientation you are more likely to be reading a book/pdf/etc. and would not have links on the page to accidentally click.

[bretm]

Not to mention ZERO reflection, look at any video of iPhones on Youtube in that kind of lighting...

When he tilts it and shakes it it reflects the whole room. His hands are constantly seen in the screen as a reflection.

If this is green screen, it's some amazing tracking the ENTIRE way through. That's where the mistake would occur. If someone were able to track it this well and put this much interface production and device production into it, I don't think they'd just make a crappy youtube video.

But, if someone was going to grab a quckvideo with their phone, then this would be what you would get. Of course, that's what they might want you to think!

So not saying it's real. But it doesn't read as green screen to me.

[lPHONE]

That thing is hideous! How does it look in 8.5x11 mode? The black bars on top and bottom dont work and would not satisfy Mr. Jobs IMHO. Great UI, but poor hardware execution. I still like the mockup from Gizmodo. If there are bars on the screen it will be on top and bottom in the vertical orientation.

This is apple tablet goodness!!!

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/09/apple-tablet-natgeo.jpg

there should be a button on both sides and speakers on the bottom.

[MACWhite]

hmm, the (X) to close the window is on the upper-right ..

.. unlike OSX, iPhone OS, and Apple's site:

exactly what caught my eye right off the bat that it was a fake.

it amazes me how people will go to such great lengths to make a fake

[iMacmatician]

exactly what caught my eye right off the bat that it was a fake.

it amazes me how people will go to such great lengths to make a fakeDidn't people say the same thing about the new key layout of the (real) leaked aluminum keyboards in 2007?

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=3977498&postcount=652

Of course, that doesn't mean it's real either.

[neutrinosllc]

This looks like the real thing to me.

1. Ikea is a perfect initial partner and example of the potential for presenting products using this device. It fits the audience this device will be marketed to, which is younger well-off women and men.

2. People are correct to say that Apple would not deviate from their existing GUI with adding a big x to close the window in the top right. What they are not realizing is that this interactive Ikea catalogue is a Tablet App, not some direct implementation of the Tablet OS. Therefore, the GUI is however Ikea's multimedia designer wants it.

I think people are getting hung up on the fact that there is a cover-flow-like depiction in app, which is simply a re-use of the coverflow concept. There ase already public libraries for recreating the coverflow interface for the iPhone SDK, I'm assuming the developer either adapted these, created their own coverflow like interface or that this interface is packaged as a UI item in the picker for the new Interface Builder for the Tablet.

Rob
www.neutrinosllc.com

[mikes70mustang]

Yet another thing that will be more cool than useful.

[Friscohoya]

IKEA = Well off young people?

You do know that you have to actually build the furniture out of the 10,000 pieces that come in the box right? There is nothing well off about manual labor.

I do agree with the balance of your post but still think that the hardware is wrong. Perhaps they gave the launch group of developers a prototype that wont be used to work from so that they could not spill the beans.

[neutrinosllc]

IKEA = Well off young people?

You do know that you have to actually build the furniture out of the 10,000 pieces that come in the box right? There is nothing well off about manual labor.

I do agree with the balance of your post but still think that the hardware is wrong. Perhaps they gave the launch group of developers a prototype that wont be used to work from so that they could not spill the beans.
Well off is relative.

The Tablet from my view is targeted at people who would find an interactive Ikea catalog engaging and useful for planning out purchases of new (reasonably priced) furniture for an entire room (as shown in the video). This is not quite the same "well off" young person cruising for a used Malm bedframe on craigslist, though they would probably aspire to buying their Ikea furniture new.

Your comment about this being beta hardware is probably dead on.

[powers74]

*strokes incredibly long goatee* Hmmmmmmm.....

Cool video tho, I'd expect the real thing to be a lot like this.

Yet another thing that will be more cool than useful.

Yeah, like that waste of money iPhone piece of crap. Who even uses one of those?

[oldwatery]

Yet another thing that will be more cool than useful.

You can't be serious!

When the real deal comes out it will revolutionize the way we work and play just as the "useless" iPhone has done.

Obviously a fake but very clever never the less.

[striatedglutes]

And for those saying the right-hand close proves it's fake, perhaps you should see what the developer of ikea's website normally does.

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/categories/departments/kitchen/

Just click on any + symbol and see where the close cross is....

THANK YOU! I was going ape **** in my head reading about all of these people and their X theories (yet making myself read all of the responses before replying like a good forum reader) when really all you had to do was go to the ikea site and see that the X on the right is standard operating procedure.

exactly what caught my eye right off the bat that it was a fake.

it amazes me how people will go to such great lengths to make a fake

I hope you're still around and realize your error.

[TDAllStar]

I Am In FULL Agreement With You Here Mate. I Kept Looking For A Shadow All The Time, And Then I Though "They Don't Mean The REFLECTION Do They?"
Perhaps A Lot Of Apple Developers Are Too Afraid Of What Apple May Do To Them Should They Leak Footage, Which Is Why It Was A Third Party App That Has Been Leaked. Also, Its Still Not Finalised, Which Could Explain Why There Are Different Or Unfamilliar Transitions Or Other Things At Work Here, After All It Is A NEW Product And Apple May Be Testing New Techniques Out.

I Didn't Analyse The Video Like Our CSI Champs ( Chumps ?!? ;P ) On This Forum, But As Far As I Could Tell, It Was Not Composited. If I Am Wrong, Then Kudo's To The Artist.

Barney

I'm with you guys also. Just wanted to throw this out there as an explanation for the shadow/reflection...isn't one of the main goals for the new tablet to work as an ereader. ereaders do not use backlighting. This screen may be something completely new...a more "reader friendly" screen. Just something to think about.

[mikes70mustang]

You can't be serious!

When the real deal comes out it will revolutionize the way we work and play just as the "useless" iPhone has done.

Obviously a fake but very clever never the less.

This will revolutionize nothing, it will be no more useful than an iphone. Its a huge ipod, it wont be good for much unless it has a wireless keyboard. The only thing that the iPhone did was have the first very good UI for a touch screen phone.

[winterspan]

OK, I was refering to the fact that the video whether fake or not was generated overseas in France maybe due to the .FR on the link. I mistakenly thought Pounds and Euro's where the same (like we have dollars and coins)...

Not to be mean, but I'd like to know how you could have possibly not been aware of that before? Are you a young student?

[neutrinosllc]

When the real deal comes out it will revolutionize the way we work and play just as the "useless" iPhone has done.
+1

It is easy to dismiss the tablet as simply being a bigger iPhone or iPod touch. However, in my view, this stance is both shortsighted and unimaginative because it neglects to show any exploration into the implications of having a bigger screen coupled with Apple's Touch platform and the broader (evolving) iTunes ecosystem.

It is hard to blame those who don't see the tablet as much more than an innovation because the computing environment leading up to today has focused on marketing the incremental functional benefits around mobility from laptops and netbooks. There are some sweet laptops and netbooks out there but all of them fail to address a growing market that does recognize social and and user interface pitfalls of these devices.

In order to understand the computing revolution that the tablet can provide, you must first acknowledge and accept that what people are after is a device that lets them engage others by sharing digital media first hand, not by proxy in the form of tweeted or emailed links. Curling up on your couch and reading a subscription-based, ad-free copy of the New York Times on your own is a baseline aspect of this device. The tablet is about the power of show and tell.

Secondly, you must have a firm grasp of the amount of change Apple's touch platform has already ushered in and realize that the biggest implications of the introduction of this device won't be known until it is in the hands of innovators outside Cupertino for months or even years.

[Thex1138]

In my opinion I think it might be the real deal that's been leaked...
It has two speaker ports top left / right in landscape and a front cam or speaker port center top...
The shadow/ reflections are both correct... the light is from left to right towards the screen so both are visible on the reflective display.

Ikea fits pretty well with the tablet pitch to media and retail outlets as an app and they're probably salivating if it turns out to be real...
The French can't keep a secret either...
I understand some people faking it up... and there is a flicker persistent only with black areas which miht be the video and device frequencies matching?
And that which creates the appearance of motion or lag...
The background Newtons might be an ID device to imply evolution or something like that...

I like it...salivating... in my briefcase going to my office... kewl!

[iMacmatician]

It is easy to dismiss the tablet as simply being a bigger iPhone or iPod touch. However, in my view, this stance is both shortsighted and unimaginative because it neglects to show any exploration into the implications of having a bigger screen coupled with Apple's Touch platform and the broader (evolving) iTunes ecosystem.One major part of that is the assumption that just because the tablet may run some sort of iPhone OS, it'll have the same functionality as an iPhone or iPod touch, including a lack of tablet-specific apps running on the iPhone OS.

I don't think Apple will take a magnifying glass to the iPhone or iPod touch to make a tablet.

[Vanilla]

I would love this to be real, just not totally convinced.
It would be great if it could act as a smart remote control hub...replacing all my remotes with one master tablet would be really useful...
Vanilla

[mikkelhorsbol]

hmm, the (X) to close the window is on the upper-right ..

.. unlike OSX, iPhone OS, and Apple's site:

Well, as it is a touch screen, it makes sense to place the X in the upper-right corner. It means that your hand does not obstruct the view of the active window.

[BlackiBook]

I personally believe it to be fake because in the first three seconds of seeing the 'tablet' it screamed "I am made out of cardboard", to me at least! The UI looks great but I highly doubt Apple is going to just stretch the iPhone form factor and be done with it... but you never know!

[Bevz]

Well, as it is a touch screen, it makes sense to place the X in the upper-right corner. It means that your hand does not obstruct the view of the active window.

Only if you are right handed.
Although after seeing the IKEA website as pointed out by MacTech68, it's pretty clear why the right side was chosen.

As to wether it's fake or not; absolutely no idea, but i won't be disappointed if it turns out to be real! :)

[mikes70mustang]

+1

It is easy to dismiss the tablet as simply being a bigger iPhone or iPod touch. However, in my view, this stance is both shortsighted and unimaginative because it neglects to show any exploration into the implications of having a bigger screen coupled with Apple's Touch platform and the broader (evolving) iTunes ecosystem.

It is hard to blame those who don't see the tablet as much more than an innovation because the computing environment leading up to today has focused on marketing the incremental functional benefits around mobility from laptops and netbooks. There are some sweet laptops and netbooks out there but all of them fail to address a growing market that does recognize social and and user interface pitfalls of these devices.

In order to understand the computing revolution that the tablet can provide, you must first acknowledge and accept that what people are after is a device that lets them engage others by sharing digital media first hand, not by proxy in the form of tweeted or emailed links. Curling up on your couch and reading a subscription-based, ad-free copy of the New York Times on your own is a baseline aspect of this device. The tablet is about the power of show and tell.

Secondly, you must have a firm grasp of the amount of change Apple's touch platform has already ushered in and realize that the biggest implications of the introduction of this device won't be known until it is in the hands of innovators outside Cupertino for months or even years.

I can just see 2 years after these come out. All of the once clamoring apple fan buyers see how little use they get out of the iTab and are trying to sell or trade them off.

[iMacmatician]

I can just see 2 years after these come out. All of the once clamoring apple fan buyers see how little use they get out of the iTab and are trying to sell or trade them off.Why do you think that?

[hellojamie]

I don't really get why Apple would come out with a tablet. The iPod touch and iPhone pretty much cover anything a tablet would- I have a hard time grasping how it would be drastically different than Apple's other offerings.

The only thing the Apple line lacks is an affordable netbook option- we have the Air, but it's priced higher than the Pros. Maybe the tablet is meant to serve that market, but it's unlikely that the price would be comparable to a netbook, and so it's not -really- comparing.

I mean, I may be completely surprised, but Tablet PC's didn't catch on. I don't really see how an Apple would, either, especially given Apple's pricing.

[blackpond]

That's real, imho.

There is a hand shadow because it isn't a back-lit screen.

http://pixelqi.com/blog1/2009/12/07/pixel-qi-starting-production/
http://www.pixelqi.com/products

The response times are quick because the images are cached in the browser... ie, the person running the demo already visited those pages.

The animation is smooth because Safari javascript performance is top notch. I'm a web dev... using javascript and jQuery for UI work all of the time... it really does work that well when executed properly.

The animations are slow to follow the finger because... come on, have you even used an iPhone? It takes a split second to follow a drag... the computer needs to first recognize it as a drag and not just a click.. that takes a moment.

The fade in and out orientation? Really? This is IKEA's web app, not Apple's web app.. they can program it the way they want to (or at least I would hope so).

The close button in the upper left? See last comment.

Looks legit to me, folks.

[Compile 'em all]

This will revolutionize nothing, it will be no more useful than an iphone. Its a huge ipod, it wont be good for much unless it has a wireless keyboard. The only thing that the iPhone did was have the first very good UI for a touch screen phone.

LOL.

The iPhone was the first ever consumer-grade product that brings true multi-touch technology to the masses. This is huge. Unlike what you try to make it sound like.

[Haiii]

That thing is hideous! How does it look in 8.5x11 mode? The black bars on top and bottom dont work and would not satisfy Mr. Jobs IMHO. Great UI, but poor hardware execution. I still like the mockup from Gizmodo. If there are bars on the screen it will be on top and bottom in the vertical orientation.

This is apple tablet goodness!!!

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/09/apple-tablet-natgeo.jpg

Yes, absolutely. That is what an Apple product looks like. The other one does not and it has the wrong screen ratio.

[johnsawyercjs]

Why are there images of an old eMate 300 and Newton 100 in the background?


Because this is video of something that came out shortly after the Newton and the eMate were released, but then it was forgotten because nobody could figure out what it was "good for".

[johnsawyercjs]

The more I look at this video, the more I think that if this isn't the actual "Mac tablet", it could be very close, possibly one of Apple's prototypes, put together on the way to making the final product.

I don't think Apple would make the Mac tablet look like just a big iPhone/iPod Touch, since they don't want people to think "It's just a big iPhone/iPod Touch--couldn't they have come up with some other form factor?" This may have guided several of Apple's decisions: they had to determine which pair of sides (long or short) would get the large, hand-hold black borders, and they may have decided that since arguments could be made for placing them on either pair of sides, that the deciding factor was to stick with not making it look too much like an iPhone/iPod Touch, and so the borders went along the longer sides. This would go farthest towards making the tablet look different from the iPhone/iPod Touch's long shape--just make it more square.

Putting the borders along the long sides may also fit in with the idea of using the tablet mostly as an e-reader, in portrait mode, where users would be gripping its sides in that orientation more often than in landscape mode. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the final product had somewhat larger black borders along the two short sides, since the placement of the camera and speakers implies to the user that landscape mode is the default "normal" orientation, so many people may choose to do their e-reading in this orientation.

I doubt if the final product will have exposed speaker "holes" as are shown in the video--they'll either be moved to one edge, as in the iPhone/iPod Touch, or if they're front-facing, their covering may look the same as the surrounding surface.

In any case, this is SOMEBODY'S tablet.

[Friscohoya]

Too much space dedicated to black bars as opposed to, well, screen. :cool: After all it is a touch screen computer which will likely maximize the amount of touchable surface. Apple has a patent for ignoring hands resting on a touch screen surface which should eliminate the need for large black bar "dead zones". Also, if they come are ready to deploy their patent to place camera lens w/in the screen itself, that would eliminate the need for bars on at least one portion of the device. That would only leave the pesky home button and if this thing runs full OSX you shouldnt need that either.

[MacPhilosopher]

I have always been a fan of tablet computing, but have waited for Apple's implementation. Now that I am seeing some of these mock-ups and have both a wireless Apple keyboard and mouse, I can really imagine the benefits. I can see where it will work its way into more than one of my typical workflows. As a stand alone media device, a tablets bennies are obvious. As a replacement for light laptop duties (when combined with Apple's lightweight wireless devices and a stand) it will be great. Slip into my studio for some editing of video or graphics and it becomes an input device. There are so many possibilities. Okay, now I wait in heavy anticipation.

[johnsawyercjs]

Too much space dedicated to black bars as opposed to, well, screen. :cool: After all it is a touch screen computer which will likely maximize the amount of touchable surface. Apple has a patent for ignoring hands resting on a touch screen surface which should eliminate the need for large black bar "dead zones". Also, if they come are ready to deploy their patent to place camera lens w/in the screen itself, that would eliminate the need for bars on at least one portion of the device. That would only leave the pesky home button and if this thing runs full OSX you shouldnt need that either.

If Apple can get the software working well for ignoring hand contact while the tablet is held from the sides, that would be nice.

I'd forgotten about Apple's work on putting the camera lens within or behind the display itself. Maybe they'll do that, but something makes me think that won't appear on their first tablet. A camera lens on phones, etc. is pretty tiny, so I think it will be put along one of the borders. Though putting the camera within/behind the center of the display sounds very cool.

I agree about the home button--not necessary on this type of device, and it would make the user think it was a big iPhone/iPod Touch.

[Jayomat]

sorry if it has already been posted, but there is a second video "demoing" the "device" ;)

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/apple-mactablet-tabletmac-video-decembre-2009-27703/

[kwiiboy]

http://arvino.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/03/mac_tablet2_2.jpg

This looks pretty close to what I think it would look like.

....and this is what I want it to look like.

[Tableteer]

sorry if it has already been posted, but there is a second video "demoing" the "device" ;)

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/apple-mactablet-tabletmac-video-decembre-2009-27703/

This clearly looks as if it's from the same source. Love the UI on both. Can't even be bothered to comment on the design of the tablet as I'm sure Jonathan Ive will come up with something that moves the iPhone on this year and the tablet will follow the same style.

First movie obviously shows some app development rather than web browsing and this makes sense with all the publishing speculation. Second clip makes a good case for a digital Guinness book of records - just having something with a record search facility would help but this seems to add some worthwhile interactivity.

Fake or not - looks good enough to buy, especially if it's as light as it looks in the videos. What are the extra Apple tablets shown in the second clip?!?

[Peace]

sorry if it has already been posted, but there is a second video "demoing" the "device" ;)

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/apple-mactablet-tabletmac-video-decembre-2009-27703/

This shows that the person doing this mock-up reads MR.

Notice the "X-close" icons.

Old one is on the right ( the wrong side )
New one is on the left ( the correct side)
It's obvious he saw the error and fixed it.

[MrCheeto]

It's hilarious the way the actor over-acts. His gestures are almost mime-like XD settle down Marcel, we don't buy it for a minute, stop pretending it's some sort of magic trick.

[GermanSuplex]

How the hell is he holding it? What's he grabbing onto?

Spray-painted cardboard frame on a netbook screen running a video through WMP full-screen mode :D

Ok, probably a little more elaborate, but I echo the sentiments here: it looks nice and if the real deal turned out similar, I'd have no complaints. I want something more involved than the iPhone OS, but I'm not sure I want full-blown OSX either. Something in between sounds nice and, visually speaking, this video looks really good on that front.

[Thex1138]

This shows that the person doing this mock-up reads MR.

Notice the "X-close" icons.

Old one is on the right ( the wrong side )
New one is on the left ( the correct side)
It's obvious he saw the error and fixed it.

I'm still not entirely convinced it's fake...

[RinCa]

It's a fake. The device is playing a video and he is timing the movements.

At :33secs into the video, watch his finger follow the first color swatch. His finger dips a little but the swatch does not.
The same thing happens on the 3rd and 4th swatch but to a lesser degree.


Here is a video "trick" showing an iphone being used as an x-ray machine.
He too was timing his movements with the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcB8CKa73B0

[drpellypo]

Look at this video: http://www.nowhereelse.fr/tablette-tactile-tablet-pc-windows-7-27715/

Clearly not a fake.

Now look at the mac tablet one.

Why would they film the two videos so differently? Cos the mac one is chroma key and needs a certain set up to work.

[sanford]

Shuffle makes no sense in context of a retail catalogue app. When you direct to a list of available products in a category, you want them ordered in some fashion either favorable to the retailer -- higher-priced items first -- or convenient to the customer -- most popular, price low-to-high, etc. Go to an IKEA store, they snap their fingers and all the stock is instantly in a different place. They do this every few minutes. See how long you stay.

And if it's an Apple prototype on loan to IKEA for their in-house corporate developers to produce an early demo app for the new tablet, why is everyone in the background speaking French, not Swedish?

Of course it looks and operates like the real deal. How many different ways do you think Apple would release a tablet?

[neutrinosllc]

Shuffle makes no sense in context of a retail catalogue app. When you direct to a list of available products in a category, you want them ordered in some fashion either favorable to the retailer -- higher-priced items first -- or convenient to the customer -- most popular, price low-to-high, etc. Go to an IKEA store, they snap their fingers and all the stock is instantly in a different place. They do this every few minutes. See how long you stay.

And if it's an Apple prototype on loan to IKEA for their in-house corporate developers to produce an early demo app for the new tablet, why is everyone in the background speaking French, not Swedish?

Of course it looks and operates like the real deal. How many different ways do you think Apple would release a tablet?
I think all your points are valid. I hadn't followed the history of elaborate fake videos of hardware demos that I'm reading about now. At least it is an illustration of how the tablet would behave.

[Bye Bye Baby]

Seriously needs to do more than be a $1000 machine to read an IKEA catalogue.

Apple- make it a laptop replacement for people who need ultraportable for work (external keyboard with perhaps a dock) and a tablet device for those who want multimedia capabilities

[emotion]

Regardless of fake or not it's the new possibilities for media that this opens up.

Tech + design/content + business model is what will make this successful for Apple.

If you're not convinced yet, see this:

http://vimeo.com/8217311

[ABG]

hmm, the (X) to close the window is on the upper-right ..

.. unlike OSX, iPhone OS, and Apple's site:

Most people are right handed so it could make sense from an ergonomic perspective.

[capoditutti]

That's real, imho.

There is a hand shadow because it isn't a back-lit screen.

http://pixelqi.com/blog1/2009/12/07/pixel-qi-starting-production/
http://www.pixelqi.com/products

The response times are quick because the images are cached in the browser... ie, the person running the demo already visited those pages.

The animation is smooth because Safari javascript performance is top notch. I'm a web dev... using javascript and jQuery for UI work all of the time... it really does work that well when executed properly.

The animations are slow to follow the finger because... come on, have you even used an iPhone? It takes a split second to follow a drag... the computer needs to first recognize it as a drag and not just a click.. that takes a moment.

The fade in and out orientation? Really? This is IKEA's web app, not Apple's web app.. they can program it the way they want to (or at least I would hope so).

The close button in the upper left? See last comment.

Looks legit to me, folks.

What he said!!!! :D:D:D:D

[Dhlittle]

The second of those videos shows an as yet unpublished version of the guinness book of records - the 2011 version. If there was evidence
that the front cover of the book edition matched this video it might suggest some sort of inside information as a preview version and therefore provide a degree of authenticity.

[dnguyen]

seems like this can be really useful if it is true

[Tableteer]

I hope Mr. Jobs & Co are working on a mobile version of Apple TV for the Tablet. I'd love to be able to take the Tablet from one room to another, wirelessly viewing streamed content.

I can imagine having a slimline bracket in each room to hold the screen in place - great for the kitchen - could also browse cooking suggestions, act as a screen for video door entry, digital photo frame, soothing animated patterns (temperature/sound sensitive?)

I could go on. For a lighter view of the Tablet / iSlate, this is quite funny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ssFM_ZJMU

[0blivion]

Well, the thing is, I'm not sure if I believe it. I mean, it looks real, and I really want to believe it but I'm not sure. There is a 2010 Ikea catalogue in the App store for the UK, but it's nowhere near as advanced as the one shown. It looks really good though! It resembles as though Willy Wonka put an iPod Touch in the Taffy Puller, haha, never mind.

Anyways, I hope it's real! But i'm not to sure. :o

[leeschill]

lol - that looks real...eerrr..or shady. Did the iPhone have any 'leaked' videos before it came out. Apple is notorious for keeping a tight lid on new products. So I'm calling bologna on this one too.

[Bye Bye Baby]

At the moment I feel another cube coming on.

[powerbook911]

To me, that video device oozes the Apple Magic. If that isn't it, it must going to be similar to that.

I've never known if I wanted the tablet, but that thing makes me think I might. It looks really fantastic, and again, it seemed to have the Apple Magic, so I think it's close to real. Don't know how I missed it back in December.

To follow up, I really hope tablet comes with some kind of dock or stand, so you don't always have to hold it.

[gvsmitty19]

Those two videos look sweet. Add in a projector, multi-touch, and video messaging and you got yourself the next hot Apple gadget.

[notabadname]

I agree with the camp that thinks it's a fake. The shadow is the real give away. Wouldn't be cast against a back-lit screen. For those who say it is not a back-lit screen, I don't think so. There is plenty of literature out there on the status of color "e ink", and while practical screens are close, most estimates are for late 2010 for viable applications. The "reader-wars" are chomping at the bit to be able to offer them. Plus the refresh rates on e ink aren't there yet.

IMO, that shadow is there because the face of the mock-up is "green-screened". I have done chromakey work and it is an easy error to overlook when doing your lighting. I think they did an excellent job, and it could even have been done professionally as concept demonstration by developers for Apple. Who knows? But I don't think that is a real, working Apple Tablet we are seeing. But I sure hope it comes out similarly.

[gsadan]

It is without a shadow of a doubt a fake, CGI and motion tracking very well executed.

But good effort!

I think they did an excellent job, and it could even have been done professionally as concept demonstration by developers for Apple. Who knows? But I don't think that is a real, working Apple Tablet we are seeing. But I sure hope it comes out similarly.

I agree with this response - it could very well be some work generated by speculative designers, pitching to either potential developers, companies that want to see their products on such a device or this could even be part of apples design process. It's a bit out there but it could even be deliberate mis-information from either Apple or one of their competitors. it happens all the time in the tech world.

[Tableteer]

This blog seems to give some fresh images to support the video - worth a look (click through from the homepage link - 'Breathing life into Apple’s Tablet') http://www.activrightbrain.com

[Peace]

This blog seems to give some fresh images to support the video - worth a look (click through from the homepage link - 'Breathing life into Apple’s Tablet') http://www.activrightbrain.com

From his blog :

"The hardware in the IKEA and Guinness World Records videos has been mocked for showing a prototype that appears too light to be real"

[redrum42]

I agree with the camp that thinks it's a fake. The shadow is the real give away. Wouldn't be cast against a back-lit screen. For those who say it is not a back-lit screen, I don't think so. There is plenty of literature out there on the status of color "e ink", and while practical screens are close, most estimates are for late 2010 for viable applications. The "reader-wars" are chomping at the bit to be able to offer them. Plus the refresh rates on e ink aren't there yet.

IMO, that shadow is there because the face of the mock-up is "green-screened". I have done chromakey work and it is an easy error to overlook when doing your lighting. I think they did an excellent job, and it could even have been done professionally as concept demonstration by developers for Apple. Who knows? But I don't think that is a real, working Apple Tablet we are seeing. But I sure hope it comes out similarly.

I really dont understand everyone saying that shadows cannot be cast on backlight screens. I am sitting here at my desk with both a macbook pro (matte screen) and an iphone (glossy screen), and if i lie them horizontal so my desklamp is casting light down on them then i can easily and clearly cast a shadow of my fingers onto the screen. Not a reflection. A shadow.

Normally when a screen is near vertical the scattered light from ambient sources which could create a shadow is insignificant compared to the screen's own light. But turn any screen near horizontal so an "image" of an ambient light can be formed in it and any object will cast a (faint) shadow on it.

[Adamo]

It looks pretty top notch there... BUT.. where's the market for this? Are they going for the Kindle market, just with a lot more functionality? I'd prefer a book regardless, and an iPhone does what that table will do in a smaller way. It looks pretty light too, wouldn't fancy snapping it myself!

[Zwhaler]

Just to add fuel to the fire...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghPkhnCJYw4&feature=related