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antonioanmar
Dec 14, 2009, 12:48 PM
I only want to explain it because i find that many people is criticizer with the MBA because the low performance that it offers for photo and video edition.
Really, i think that the main use of this machine is not that, because this is an ultra portable computer. So, i think (or at least i thought) that all the buyers understood it from the beginning, but i have found that it is not on this way.
When i bought my first MBA (it were a rev.A which still work perfectly) i was looking for a machine with no weight, thin and (i think that we do) very fashion. And i found it. It is perfect for the shows with customers, office work, web looking, mailing,...
Later i bought the Rev.B with SDD and really still i am in love with this machine. I never think that carry with my MacBook unibody (it is now my house desktop). And MBA give me everything that i need when i travel.
For the video and photo edition it is OK if you are out of your working place and need to do something "on the fly",but for the big edition i have my iMac.
And if you only need not professional quality edition, it has power enough to do it (my girlfriend use the MBA as her main and only computer, and she is a teacher).

So, i only what to explain that i don't understand the people who speak bad about the MacBook Air. Only i can think that they didn't buy the right machine for their needs.



scottness
Dec 14, 2009, 01:17 PM
I love my MBA. I think of it as my supplimental machine for use while traveling or out with clients. I do most of my work on an iMac. The MBA is perfect for what I use it for.

jimboutilier
Dec 14, 2009, 01:34 PM
The MBA really is a fantastic travel machine. Its so thin and light, carrying it in the hand or case is effortless. Its plenty powerful enough for everyday business apps and has a wonderful keyboard and screen you can enjoy using all day long.

Like most notebooks in this class, its not for everyone - but if you can live within its performance and capacity limits, its a terrific option.

musicpenguy
Dec 14, 2009, 02:34 PM
The MBA is in my opinion the greatest Apple laptop to be released yet. It has plenty of power (in fact faster for general use than the original Macbook Pros a few years ago) -

I think it gets a bad rap for "less features and less speed" but in fact people miss the feature that everyone uses everyday unless it sits at your desk all day -

Feature #1 - Weight
Feature #2 - Thinness

These are two features that vastly outweigh extra USB ports or a DVD drive because I am always using the weight and thinness in my life.

I believe that I will always be using the MBA as my main computer and upgrade revisions as I can. While still having a media server/encoding machine always hooked up and with more CPU power to do video encoding and the like.

But I think Apple Retail Store employees give it a bad name and others that don't actually use one on a regular basis.

Jobsian
Dec 14, 2009, 03:00 PM
The Macbook Air is the greatest laptop ever manufactured in the history of mobile computing, in my opinion.

The portability/performance tradeoff is the best I have ever seen, still, even 2 years after it was released.

Every single day that passes I'm checking Macrumors, Engadget, DigiTimes and all the Arrandale/Nvidia/ATI discussion in the hope that Apple maintain the Air's pound-for-pound performance champion title with the next iteration.

My dream is for:
4GB RAM
256GB SSD (high performance)
Most powerful ATI card with workable TDP
Most powerful Arrandale possible given thermal envelope (may be another custom micro job)
And the same or another killer design (essential to me wanting one)

Hoping every day.

Jobsian
Dec 14, 2009, 03:18 PM
Oh and also high-speed interface eg USB 3.0 or Light Peak, though more hopeful than expecting for any of these.

mattwolfmatt
Dec 14, 2009, 04:38 PM
The MBA really is a fantastic travel machine. Its so thin and light, carrying it in the hand or case is effortless. Its plenty powerful enough for everyday business apps and has a wonderful keyboard and screen you can enjoy using all day long.

The MBA is in my opinion the greatest Apple laptop to be released yet.

The Macbook Air is the greatest laptop ever manufactured in the history of mobile computing

Wow the kool-aid in here is strong . . .

sushi
Dec 14, 2009, 04:46 PM
My dream is for:
4GB RAM
256GB SSD (high performance)
Yesterday I visited the Ginza Apple store and was drooling over an MBA.

Unfortunately, I do a lot of work with VMware, so I need more RAM than 2GB. Once Apple ups the RAM to 4GB, I may take the plunge.

Of course a 256GB SSD wouldn't hurt either. :)

Wow the kool-aid in here is strong . . .
Well, it's an Apple based forum. What do you expect? :o

couto27
Dec 14, 2009, 04:46 PM
The Macbook Air is the greatest laptop ever manufactured in the history of mobile computing, in my opinion.

The portability/performance tradeoff is the best I have ever seen, still, even 2 years after it was released.

Every single day that passes I'm checking Macrumors, Engadget, DigiTimes and all the Arrandale/Nvidia/ATI discussion in the hope that Apple maintain the Air's pound-for-pound performance champion title with the next iteration.

My dream is for:
4GB RAM
256GB SSD (high performance)
Most powerful ATI card with workable TDP
Most powerful Arrandale possible given thermal envelope (may be another custom micro job)
And the same or another killer design (essential to me wanting one)

Hoping every day.


i prefer a well balanced air , than a high speed air with eat issues.
on the next review,i only expect a better machine.

the air is already fast enough, i prefer
less weigh
resistence to shock
+ battery life


search on ebay and you will find hundreads of mb air with the case/shell damaged

macbook air is for travelers like antonioanmar said, i lost count of how many time the air come in and out of the backpack during a single day, on the plane , train, taxi, underground, on foot, and with the air comes dozens of other gadgets together.

the air is for work use.

so far the iphone 3g has being the most resistence to shock in 18 months of use, the touch screen looks like bullet proof.

MultiFinder17
Dec 14, 2009, 08:23 PM
I never thought I would want a MacBook Air originally. When they first came out, I played with one in the store and thought "Man, this is nice and thin. And light too! Shame it's so weak power-wise." I decided to stick it out with my 12" PowerBook a bit longer. When the Revision B came around, I again seriously considered it, but decided against it because I would be buying the base model, and I refuse to pay over $1000 for something running at 1.6GHz. When the Revision C came to be, the PowerBook was getting quite long in the tooth, and I again went to the store, this time with the intention of walking out with either an Air or a 13" MBP. I would up deciding on the Air, but also decided to wait a bit until some used sellers started selling them. I got my Revision C 1.86GHz 'used' but still brand-spankin-new for $1200 (that's with shipping and tax), and I couldn't be happier. It's amazingly fast, it's super thin, it's extremely light, it's the best computer for carrying around in my bag all day, and considering that my laptop spends about 50%-60% of its time out and about in my bag and over my shoulder, I couldn't be happier :)

milton.sheaf
Dec 14, 2009, 08:51 PM
macbook air: as powerful as the asus eee but 10x the price. brilliant.

ctrack52
Dec 14, 2009, 08:52 PM
Wow the kool-aid in here is strong . . .

Actually, most of us enjoy our Macs 'cause we have been to the darkside and decided not to stay there....all kidding aside, Macs seem to work reliably, viruses are extremely rare, they are generally well made and pretty much accomplish all computing tasks rather well. As for the MBA I recently purchased one after looking at all that was offered on the Windows side. I can safely say it was the best choice for me, weight, screen size, and portability. Some Win Machines come close but the OS really kept me from going there. Welcome to the MAC world!

milton.sheaf
Dec 14, 2009, 08:54 PM
Welcome to the MAC world!
are we talking womens cosmetics now? :confused:

ctrack52
Dec 14, 2009, 08:59 PM
are we talking womens cosmetics now? :confused:

Reading too much into it.....

stoconnell
Dec 14, 2009, 11:41 PM
Reading too much into it.....

MAC is a brand of cosmetics (www.maccosmetics.com (http://www.maccosmetics.com)); whereas, Mac is a common abbreviation for a popular line of computers by a certain manufacturer of computers, consumer electronics, software and services :)

antonioanmar
Dec 15, 2009, 01:39 AM
1.- It's clear that all us we understand the reason because MBA exists. Ultra-portable Mac computer which offer you whatever you need when you are "on the way". It isn't a desktop computer, so it is crazy to compare with one of them. On the last times many people what to buy one portable to use it like desktop. And, perhaps, a Macbook cold be it. But not our loved MBA.
2.- If you are interesting about MAC cosmetics, only search on Youtube the word "MAC" and you will see that a massive quantity of videos are not Apple Mac, they are about "how to use the make up" :p
3.- Asus eee is cheaper, of course. But really i pay happy the difference to use Snow Leopard instead of Windows or Linux. And no possible compare about the screen or keyboard.

three
Dec 15, 2009, 01:47 AM
Even though my MacBook Air gives me annoyances, I still love it. It's thin, still amazingly beautiful after all these years.

stoconnell
Dec 15, 2009, 02:00 AM
So, i only what to explain that i don't understand the people who speak bad about the MacBook Air. Only i can think that they didn't buy the right machine for their needs.

I couldn't agree any more. I think some people buy the MBA with the wrong set of expectations and/or use cases. For my needs, my Rev B MBA is nearly ideal; sure it has a few issues, but those pale relative to its advantages. I went into the purchase with my eyes open.

jimboutilier
Dec 15, 2009, 08:30 AM
macbook air: as powerful as the asus eee but 10x the price. brilliant.

Well the Asus eee PC are fine netbooks. But the limited screen resolution, cramped keyboard, and single core CPUs hardly make them all day useable for real work. And while the MBA really is several times as expensive as an EEE pc, so are most ultra portable PC's and thin and light PC's.

Netbooks are great for what they are and if thats all you need you can save a lot of money. But if you really need a Notebook, a Netbook is just going to be a frustrating waste of money. In fact if you need an ultra portable or thin and light Notebook the MBA can be great but if you really need a desktop replacement Notebook the MBA is going to be a frustrating waste of money for you.

jimboutilier
Dec 15, 2009, 08:38 AM
Wow the kool-aid in here is strong . . .

Indeed it is. The vast majority of people spending $1000 or more on a PC choose Apple more than all other brands put together. Moreover Apple's customer satisfaction and retention numbers are the highest in the industry, year after year.

Now that could just be brand image or creative advertising. OR it could be the ownership experience is better. For me its the ownership experience but I can't speak for everyone.

And the purpose of equipment in a tag line is not to brag about what products you own but tell other what equipment you have experience with when you are asking or answering questions.

nok123
Dec 15, 2009, 09:16 AM
Agree wholeheartedly. I bought an Air rev. C three weeks ago and am very happy with the purchase. I travel a lot -- and this is a fantastic laptop on the road.

I went from a Thinkpad to the Air. While I'm still learning how the Mac OS works, it was a pretty easy transition.

Gadgetman99
Dec 15, 2009, 09:45 AM
I use the MBA as my main (and only) machine now. For most of us, it is more then enough. The nice thing is, it can be used as a netbook too, but with full size screen, dual core CPU and full keyboard. I used to have a laptop and netbook. Now I just have the MBA and it does all I need.

darngooddesign
Dec 15, 2009, 10:08 AM
...The nice thing is, it can be used as a netbook too...

I never understand what something like this means. How can a laptop be used specifically like a netbook?

FWIW I think the Air really is the best laptop for traveling, just down to its size and weight. However, if traveling for you involves being in sketchy locales where there is a greater chance of being mugged because you are using a laptop in public, or your computers see more abuse then honestly, a used, $400 MacBook is the best computer for traveling.

calderone
Dec 15, 2009, 10:27 AM
Yeah, it is a great notebook for travel when your hinges don't snap violently and randomly.

antonioanmar
Dec 15, 2009, 10:44 AM
Yeah, it is a great notebook for travel when your hinges don't snap violently and randomly.

Of course, the hinge problem exists, but as we all know Apple accepted that this is a factory problem and they repair it free.
At least on spain the number of hinge problems is not significative. I only know one person in Spain who had this problem, and they did repair his MBA quickly and 100% free.

On the other hand, i am happy to find that many of us think that it is a great computer, and when we speak about "i wish if next rev. will include more RAM and so on" it is not different than when the MBP owners want that the next version of that computers will include more power.

But really, my Air is the computer that i use mostly of the time.

andygabriel
Dec 15, 2009, 10:48 AM
I use the MBA as my main (and only) machine now. For most of us, it is more then enough. The nice thing is, it can be used as a netbook too, but with full size screen, dual core CPU and full keyboard. I used to have a laptop and netbook. Now I just have the MBA and it does all I need.

I'm thinking about getting a macbook air as my main and only machine as well. I'm an average user, mainly web browsing, Email, iLife 09 and Itunes. I don't use photoshop. I sometimes use iMovie and iDVD but rarely.

Do you think the macbook air 2.13GHZ is fast and reliable enough for my needs. I'm also willing to wait for the next revision hoping for 4GB ram and bigger HD.

Right now i my main and only machine is a early 2008 White Macbook 2.4GHZ(C2D penryn) 4GB Ram(667mhz DDR2), 320 hd, L2 cache 3mb. It's very fast for my needs but i need something more portable and lighter. The fan on my macbook revs up pretty hard as well when i watch flash movies.

I checked out the spec of the High end Rev C Air and it seems faster than my Macbook. Since it has L2 cache 6mb, and 1066mhz DDR3 Ram and SSD.

Do you guys think it is faster than my macbook?

Should i buy Rev C or wait for Rev D? (I'm very patient and my macbook is fine at the moment and i can wait if i can have a faster one)

Would you choose my white macbook over macbook air Rev C (money not an issue)?

If you use the Air as you main and only machine please tell me how it runs for average use like i stated above.

Thanks in advance

jimboutilier
Dec 15, 2009, 11:14 AM
I'm thinking about getting a macbook air as my main and only machine as well. I'm an average user, mainly web browsing, Email, iLife 09 and Itunes. I don't use photoshop. I sometimes use iMovie and iDVD but rarely.

Do you think the macbook air 2.13GHZ is fast and reliable enough for my needs. I'm also willing to wait for the next revision hoping for 4GB ram and bigger HD.

Right now i my main and only machine is a early 2008 White Macbook 2.4GHZ(C2D penryn) 4GB Ram(667mhz DDR2), 320 hd, L2 cache 3mb. It's very fast for my needs but i need something more portable and lighter. The fan on my macbook revs up pretty hard as well when i watch flash movies.

I checked out the spec of the High end Rev C Air and it seems faster than my Macbook. Since it has L2 cache 6mb, and 1066mhz DDR3 Ram and SSD.

Do you guys think it is faster than my macbook?

Should i buy Rev C or wait for Rev D? (I'm very patient and my macbook is fine at the moment and i can wait if i can have a faster one)

Would you choose my white macbook over macbook air Rev C (money not an issue)?

If you use the Air as you main and only machine please tell me how it runs for average use like i stated above.

Thanks in advance

With respect to speed and power the RevC MBA would be fine for the uses you mention and with an SSD would feel considerably faster than your current Macbook.

I used a RevA as my primary machine as a traveling IT consultant for almost a year. I was never unhappy with its performance but eventually had issues withs its 80gb HD capacity. I now have a RevC with 128gb SSD and it seems much faster than my 2008 uMB 2.4/4/7K320 and its great.

The only compromises I had to make were
a) switching from Carbonite online backup to Mozy. Carbonite uses a lot of cpu pretty regularly and causes battery life and fan issues on the MBA. Mozy is unnoticeable.
b) optimizing my windows and linux virtual machines to take as little memory and disk space as possible and only running one at a time.

So if you can live in 2gb of RAM (and most casual users can) and are ok with 128gb of SSD space, the RevC is a terrific machine. I too was hoping for a RevD w 4gb RAM and 256gb SSD but missed out on most of a year of MBA goodness when the Rev B or C would have been fine for me.

I recently broke down and got a RevC and my only regret is not doing it sooner.

andygabriel
Dec 15, 2009, 11:44 AM
Thx Jim Boutillier for the reply! Now i feel more confident to get a Rev C. I was a bit worried because most people on macrumors gave negative comments on the macbook Air but i guess they are more heavy users bcoz they do a lot of photo editing(photoshop etc..)

I don't play games at all and i only have like 16gb of music. But i like to connect my laptop to my LCD TV to watch free movies online.

Does anyone think this would be a problem with the Rev C? I use my white macbook to do this with no problem. I use mini Dvi to Dvi and a Dvi to HDMI to connect to my TV and have speakers for sound from my laptop. It's really nice coz it's like i have a media center. And when my friends come over they use cover flow(itunes) on the big screen to browse through my album and choose songs. I have a wireless apple keyboard and mighty mouse. I enjoy just sitting on my couch and watching movies or browse itunes on my Big TV. My friends think it's awesome too.

I also use Ichat and Skype on my TV to do video chat i.e i see my friends on the big screen while im just sitting on my couch. Has anyone tried this?

If anyone has any advice for the Rev C please help me to decide. Will i be able to do the same thing on the Rev c or will it be even better?

jimboutilier
Dec 15, 2009, 02:44 PM
Thx Jim Boutillier for the reply! Now i feel more confident to get a Rev C. I was a bit worried because most people on macrumors gave negative comments on the macbook Air but i guess they are more heavy users bcoz they do a lot of photo editing(photoshop etc..)

I don't play games at all and i only have like 16gb of music. But i like to connect my laptop to my LCD TV to watch free movies online.

Does anyone think this would be a problem with the Rev C? I use my white macbook to do this with no problem. I use mini Dvi to Dvi and a Dvi to HDMI to connect to my TV and have speakers for sound from my laptop. It's really nice coz it's like i have a media center. And when my friends come over they use cover flow(itunes) on the big screen to browse through my album and choose songs. I have a wireless apple keyboard and mighty mouse. I enjoy just sitting on my couch and watching movies or browse itunes on my Big TV. My friends think it's awesome too.

I also use Ichat and Skype on my TV to do video chat i.e i see my friends on the big screen while im just sitting on my couch. Has anyone tried this? Bluetooth keyboard and Mouse are not an issue either.

If anyone has any advice for the Rev C please help me to decide. Will i be able to do the same thing on the Rev c or will it be even better?

I run an external 24" 1920x1080 DVI monitor quite a lot but have not used an HDMI adapter. You'll have to buy a mini-display-port to DVI adapter for your chain or invest in apples rather expensive HDMI adapter. I often use iChat and Skype without issue although video calls will get your fans running some. Music is not an issue but any video activity will get your fans going - not that it doesn't with a uMB to some extent but more so with the Air.

flynz4
Dec 16, 2009, 12:36 AM
I have a MBA and a 15" MBP. I use the MBA about 10X as often as my MBP.

/Jim

antonioanmar
Dec 16, 2009, 04:41 AM
Really it is Flash which cause mostly the increase on the temperature and the fans speed goes up. But not all the video or music playing, because i use much Megavideo playing streaming of films and series with no unusual fans speed or noise.

andygabriel
Dec 16, 2009, 09:53 AM
Let's wait and see the next update to the macbook air. I bet it's going to be much better and will surely be a capable main and only machine for average users.

Hope they fix the overheating issues and give us more RAM!

But according to articles that i read there might be some problem with the next processor( Arrandale). Apple don't want them. I just hope apple don't opt for the Intel integrated graphics for the Air.

Hopefully a 256GB or 320 GB SSD(high end).

Then it'll be definitely the best computer for travel and many other things.
It'd be a better option that the 13" Macbook Pro for a lot of average users to whom portability is very important as well.

I so want a macbook air! I'm tired of my white 2008 macbook. It's feeling heavier since i take it everywhere with me and i think a macbook air is as capable if not better than my White 2.4ghz macbook! But PC people still look at my white macbook and they think it looks cool!

colourfastt
Dec 16, 2009, 03:38 PM
I have a MBA and a 15" MBP. I use the MBA about 10X as often as my MBP.

/Jim

I also have a MBA and a 15" MBP; the MBP now only gets used when I'm sitting in the living room watching TV .. the MBA is my mobile laptop now.

entatlrg
Dec 18, 2009, 09:19 PM
macbook air: as powerful as the asus eee but 10x the price. brilliant.

that's an example of 'not getting' what the MBA is.

it's 100x the machine the asus eee is, LOL

RSW
Dec 19, 2009, 08:11 AM
I bought my Air for travel, but before I did I checked out the netbooks. However, the small keyboard and small screen did not work for me. I bought my wife a netbook for mothers day, but I can't type on it. Also I can't stand the windows OS. The Air is a perfect computer for when I fly, and fits well on the airline's trays.

feflower
Dec 19, 2009, 03:37 PM
I recently bought a MBP 13" about 4 months ago. I really enjoy it and it is a good complement to my Mac Pro which is a 2006 model.

Now I wish had bought the MBA; and I think I will be eyeing that as my next portable.

I feared the small HD space would be a problem but right now I'm only hovering around 50gigs of usage and I use my MacPro as my "mothership" where I have all my large files. I only transfer stuff to my MBP when needed.

Just a few questions:

I took a look at it the other day and I see it does not have the same touchpad as the MBP. Is this true?

The other thing is I do some field recording of instruments and music performances, and some recording with my ensemble for compositions. I'm a music scholar, and not a recording engineer so I don't need the heavy power for things like Logic. Anybody else use it for this? And how has your experience been?

Thanks

stoconnell
Dec 19, 2009, 03:50 PM
Just a few questions:

I took a look at it the other day and I see it does not have the same touchpad as the MBP. Is this true?

The other thing is I do some field recording of instruments and music performances, and some recording with my ensemble for compositions. I'm a music scholar, and not a recording engineer so I don't need the heavy power for things like Logic. Anybody else use it for this? And how has your experience been?


The touchpad is not the glass one that is on the MBP. It has a discrete button, but supports the full gamut of gestures.

There were some threads on using recording software with an MBA within the last year or so. I do not do any recordings (alas, no musical aptitude). The MBA doesn't have a "line in" like the MBP (just a mic), so you'd need to use the USB interface for input.

Max(IT)
Dec 20, 2009, 05:56 PM
macbook air: as powerful as the asus eee but 10x the price. brilliant.

never really seen a Macbook Air, Am I correct ? :rolleyes:

thegoldenmackid
Dec 20, 2009, 05:57 PM
I'm a big fan of the Dell Mini 9.

ctrack52
Dec 20, 2009, 08:39 PM
I'm a big fan of the Dell Mini 9.

Before I purchased my MBA I used the Acer One for about a year. While it's a nice computer for email and minor websurfing it's major draw back is it's screen size. I took the Acer on vacation because of it's portability and quickly realized that I couldn't really review photos or perform any of the processing tasks efficiently. Something I am used to on my MACBOOK. That is when I started seriously looking at the MBA. I still like the netbook, but it won't be my vacation computer again. Again, everything has a role.

bowlerman625
Dec 20, 2009, 08:53 PM
I had 2 netbooks before my MBA. The Asus EEE pc and Acer Aspire One. Both are decent machines, but once you have had the MBA (first a rev A, then recently a C with the SSD) and think about the netbooks, there is absolutely no way I would go back. Even with the price difference, there is no way I could go back to a netbook type pc.