A Small Orange -- web hosting / domain registration

[h0kie99]

I have been struggling with where to register a new domain and set up inexpensive web hosting!!! I start this HTML course in 6 days so I MUST decide this TODAY!! I was originally going to go with Doteasy... they are charging $25 for the domain and free monthly hosting. However, I may want to change it in a year... A Small Orange is only $10 for the domain and $5 per month for the hosting I would need. I checked out the bulletin boards on A Small Orange and it looks like they have better customer service. I am going to need a lot of help because I'm so new to this.

What should I do???

I need a host/registrar that allows me to have www.myname.com and has no advertising!

Thanks! :D

[edesignuk]

You will not regret going with ASO, they really are amazing in their support and pricing/services. I have the "MEGA" hosting package and am very happy, I have recommended them to several people already who are also very happy with it.

I registered the domain with GoDaddy.com though (at the time ASO weren't doing domain registrations).

edit: http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide/cust_reviews__mid--80434.html ;)

[ExoticFish]

hahaha, this is funny. i was looking for some web hosting yesterday cause my hosting site now goes down quite often (GISOL.com :mad: ) so i started looking around and saw from some post that you (edesignuk) really likes ASO so i went with them and ended up going with godaddy for my domain. what a small little world. i just got my confimation e-mail that my account has been setup, now i just have to wait till the domain transfers to godaddy. but hopefully soon i'll be a happy camper.

[sonofslim]

thanks to ed.uk's recommendation in another thread, i'm planning on going with ASO for my next site -- i was pretty impressed with their feature packages and pricing. plus they just seem to have a good additude towards hosting; it really sounds like you're going to get customer service, not just disk space.

on that note, edesign: i noticed they have a referrer program. when i sign on, i'll list you as the referrer, if you like; just let me know what name they know you by.

[edesignuk]

on that note, edesign: i noticed they have a referrer program. when i sign on, i'll list you as the referrer, if you like; just let me know what name they know you by.Check your PM's ;)

To all of you though. The support is amazing, they will help you migrate forums from other sites, they will do all the work . if you have trouble with ANYTHING they will help, and they will help very quickly. They aren't cramming people on servers, they are buying new ones all the time (good ones, dual xeons, 2gb ram, scsi). I'm very impressed. I think you will be too.

Oh, BTW, they use cPanel X to give you control over your site, that also is superb (a millions times better than 1&1's crappy management interface). You can even (for $5 extra P/M) get reseller access, so you can sell chunks of your space/bandwdth on to others, how cool is that!?

[edesignuk]

Actually if anyone of you do sign up, do me a favour and put me down as the referrer :) Drop me a PM for my "real" identity....mwahahahahahahaha! :eek:

edit: here this is easier, didn't actually know they did this till now :cool: Click me! (http://www.asmallorange.com/services/hosting/?refer=yo-momma.net)

[sonofslim]

Check your PM's ;)

no sweat -- thanks for the recommendation! i've recently done a handful of freelance sites and went with different hosts for each, and was disappointed with every one. i'm looking forward to a no-hassle host.

[h0kie99]

Thanks!

It looks like ASO is offering domain registration, too, for $10. How come some of you go through godaddy for your domain?

[edesignuk]

Thanks!

It looks like ASO is offering domain registration, too, for $10. How come some of you go through godaddy for your domain?As I said, when I got an account with ASO they weren't offering domain registration, this is a new feature (http://forums.asmallorange.com/index.php?showtopic=748) for them.

[ExoticFish]

As I said, when I got an account with ASO they weren't offering domain registration, this is a new feature (http://forums.asmallorange.com/index.php?showtopic=748) for them.

looks like they're only offering it for new domains where as i needed mine transfered, plus godaddy is cheaper (only by $1 but hey).

[varmit]

www.no-ip.com can be used in getting a free domain name with .no-ip.com at the end. But i don't know if they do hosting. www.register.com might be your best bet to get all of it under one roof.

[edesignuk]

www.no-ip.com can be used in getting a free domain name with .no-ip.com at the end. But i don't know if they do hosting.no-ip.com is not a place to register. It's a place to get a free dynamic DNS name service to direct to your home IP, it really isn't for "proper" web site hosting use.

[cr2sh]

Actually if anyone of you do sign up, do me a favour and put me down as the referrer :) Drop me a PM for my "real" identity....mwahahahahahahaha! :eek:

edit: here this is easier, didn't actually know they did this till now :cool: Click me! (http://www.asmallorange.com/services/hosting/?refer=yo-momma.net)

Holy christ edesignuk! They offer free multiple domain hosting and allow adult material to be hosted! Ba-jesus! Sign me up!

[edesignuk]

Holy christ edesignuk! They offer free multiple domain hosting and allow adult material to be hosted! Ba-jesus! Sign me up!Yeah, they're just great aren't they :D

On a side note, I have been with them for quite a few months now, when I've emailed support I've had a reply (with an answer!) within 10 minutes every time. Really amazing. I havene't ever tried to access my site(s) and found that they were down either. Top-notch.

[cr2sh]

I signed up a refered you, thanks for the heads up!

Now its time to start slinging porn!

[revenuee]

cheap hosting?

www.surpasshosting.com

thats who i'm with --- 40$ for the year for 1 gig of storage

[edesignuk]

cheap hosting?

www.surpasshosting.com

thats who i'm with --- 40$ for the year for 1 gig of storageEither that link is wrong, or their own site s down as of now (09:24 GMT+1).

-cr2sh

Thanks :)

[hxuk]

It's funny, I used to use doteasy -- and it was really slow for me (in the uk), then I moved to ASO... and it's great.

Also, there is another one worth a look:

www.canaca.com

Don't know how is the service, but looks like a good deal.

[edesignuk]

It's funny, I used to use doteasy -- and it was really slow for me (in the uk), then I moved to ASO... and it's great.

Also, there is another one worth a look:

www.canaca.com

Don't know how is the service, but looks like a good deal.Cheap, yes. But I wouldn't go near 'em:

http://www.webhostingjury.com/reviews/Canaca
http://www.comparewebhosts.com/ReadReview.asp?FeedId=678

One of ASOs best aspects is their amazing customer service, something which so many others seem to very badly need.

[revenuee]

Either that link is wrong, or their own site s down as of now (09:24 GMT+1).

-cr2sh

Thanks :)

hmm don't know ... works fine for me

[edesignuk]

hmm don't know ... works fine for me
Me too now, wasn't earlier though. Not good for a hosting company :o

[revenuee]

Me too now, wasn't earlier though. Not good for a hosting company :o

well i don't go to THIER website often, but i see mine everyday, so i don't know

[cr2sh]

I've been nothing short of amazed by asmallorange so far.
I can't believe the flexibility they're offering at such a reasonable price. Really amazing.

Also, I'd post a question in the help forums and I'd have a response in literally minutes. They're help desk group answers questions faster than people respond in here... its amazing.

The account was setup in less than 24hours and the guys were great.... just amazing.

[edesignuk]

I've been nothing short of amazed by asmallorange so far.
I can't believe the flexibility they're offering at such a reasonable price. Really amazing.

Also, I'd post a question in the help forums and I'd have a response in literally minutes. They're help desk group answers questions faster than people respond in here... its amazing.

The account was setup in less than 24hours and the guys were great.... just amazing.
What do I keep telling people? :D

Honeslty, I think we need a sticky thread for them. They're the best!

[Hoef]

What do I keep telling people? :D

Honeslty, I think we need a sticky thread for them. They're the best!


They are so great that they stopped adding customers :mad: Hope they get it done soon:
http://www.asmallorange.com/services/hosting/

[chanoc]

I use ASO for hosting and would recommend them to anyone! I have the "small orange" for 5.00 a month.

[jestershinra]

no-ip.com is not a place to register. It's a place to get a free dynamic DNS name service to direct to your home IP, it really isn't for "proper" web site hosting use.

Why not? Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering. I've got it set up- to refer to my 10.3.6 Server machine, which handles everything (right now it's load is light, just some php MySQL stuff, but it's been heavier before).

Oh...maybe upload speed? Help me out...

[edesignuk]

Why not? Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering. I've got it set up- to refer to my 10.3.6 Server machine, which handles everything (right now it's load is light, just some php MySQL stuff, but it's been heavier before).

Oh...maybe upload speed? Help me out...
no-ip.com is just to give home systems on DHCP a "static" address. Sure, if you have the upload bandwidth on your home connection you *could* host your site off your own box, but that's not how 99% of people would do it. no-ip.com (and other dynamic DNS services) are not for "real" domain name registration.

[edesignuk]

They are so great that they stopped adding customers :mad: Hope they get it done soon:
http://www.asmallorange.com/services/hosting/They have grown very quickly thanks to their great service, and happy customers like me spreading the word. Because of this growth they are having to re-structure. You can read exactly why they have stopped taking orders for this short time here (http://forums.asmallorange.com/index.php?showtopic=2001).

[angelneo]

Why not? Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering. I've got it set up- to refer to my 10.3.6 Server machine, which handles everything (right now it's load is light, just some php MySQL stuff, but it's been heavier before).

Oh...maybe upload speed? Help me out...
I think its easier as you don't have to care for the maintenance of your hardware and you don't have to worry that it will go down (such as a black-out, or someone accidentally shutdown your comp) when you are not around.

I personally do use no-ip.com but that's because I need to run some prototype server applications in java and it's really expensive to get vps for now. For my usual websites, I would use the hosting companies

[Hoef]

You can read exactly why they have stopped taking orders for this short time here (http://forums.asmallorange.com/index.php?showtopic=2001).

Yes I know .... I hope they get it done soon. A timeframe would be nice.

[Hoef]

Another question .... Can you have multiple domainnames in a single account at ASO:

www.1.bla -> server\hoef\a
www.2.bla -> server\hoef\b

etc... ?

[edesignuk]

Another question .... Can you have multiple domainnames in a single account at ASO:

www.1.bla -> server\hoef\a
www.2.bla -> server\hoef\b

etc... ?
I don't see why not (can't check my cPanel at the moment either, stupid work proxy!). Ask them. The ASO staff are VERY helpful.

[davecuse]

Another question .... Can you have multiple domainnames in a single account at ASO:

www.1.bla -> server\hoef\a
www.2.bla -> server\hoef\b

etc... ?

Yes you can, I have two domain names pointing to the same site. If you want to have 2 individual site you would need a reseller account.

[edesignuk]

Yes you can, I have two domain names pointing to the same site. If you want to have 2 individual site you would need a reseller account.
Not true, I have 2 domains/sites hosted on the same space, without reseller access :D

[davecuse]

Not true, I have 2 domains/sites hosted on the same space, without reseller access :D

How so? Do you have 2 completely different domains? Like http://davecuse.com/ and http://edesignuk.com/ , or do you have subdomains setup like http://davecuserules.edesignuk.com/ and http://davecuseisthecoolest.edesignuk.com/ ?

I have 2 domain names, but they both point to the same thing.

[edesignuk]

How so? Do you have 2 completely different domains? Like http://davecuse.com/ and http://edesignuk.com/ , or do you have subdomains setup like http://davecuserules.edesignuk.com/ and http://davecuseisthecoolest.edesignuk.com/ ?

I have 2 domain names, but they both point to the same thing.
2 totally different domains. You just add additional domians through "Addon Domains" in cPanel :cool:

[davecuse]

2 totally different domains. You just add additional domians through "Addon Domains" in cPanel :cool:

Interesting... little did I know

[neut]

just noticed this thread and i have to say... A Small Orange hosting is by far the best out there. no limits! (http://www.asmallorange.com/services/hosting/features.php) (multi-accounts, unlimited email, domains, and subdomains, e-commerce (shopping carts), reselling, forums/bbs/chat, etc. are all supplied through cPanel).

Everything runs on dual Xenon boxes in Houston Texas.

i also know a way of getting a discounted price if anyone cares to know, but please PM me and use me as a referal... :D

these guys are ****ing awesome! :)


peace.

[angelneo]

2 totally different domains. You just add additional domians through "Addon Domains" in cPanel :cool:I don't think its that simple. You have to configured your domain name to point to ASO name server and then ASO will configure it to your cpanel.

just noticed this thread and i have to say... A Small Orange hosting is by far the best out there. no limits! (multi-accounts, unlimited email, domains, and subdomains, e-commerce (shopping carts), reselling, forums/bbs/chat, etc. are all supplied through cPanel).
A lot of other hosting companies do offer all these unlimited stuff (together with cpanel), its just that ASO has a good customer support which is important.

[Hoef]

Thanks for the good info guys!

[LeeTom]

Saw this thread and thought I'd comment. I heard of asmallorange through edesignuk about 4 months ago, and I've been extremely happy with it ever since. Finally! Good hosting companies are hard to come by!

Lee Tom

[dolphin842]

As if ASO needed any more positive comments ;) ... I've been a happy customer for several months now.

In actuality, the reason I went with them is because they allow unlimited addon domains on a $5/mo. account... it's great if one has to host several distinct sites that aren't bandwidth hungry (although 10GB is nothing to complain about!). And as others have mentioned, the support is very good (and very fast).

[edesignuk]

I don't think its that simple. You have to configured your domain name to point to ASO name server and then ASO will configure it to your cpanel.
No, it is that simple. You register a domain where ever you like (I use godaddy.com). Set the name servers to ns1.asmallorange.com ns2.asmallorange.com (just as you would if it was for the first domain on your account). Then you just add that domain yourself in your own cPanel. ASO don't have to get involved at all.

[Hoef]

They were able to accomodate all my whishes ... Excellent company!!!!

[Wyvernspirit]

I just contacted them I the said they are shooting for January as the date to which they will begin accepting to clients.

Hope that helps.

[neut]

I just contacted them I the said they are shooting for January as the date to which they will begin accepting to clients.

Hope that helps.

... just to clarify; A Small Orange has not stopped taking clients ... only the automated sitehas been shut down. if you need or want service; contact ASO directly through email and ask for the account you wish to purchase. referals also will also work through this process. many people are still singing up with ASO (like Hoef) and are experiecing great service.

don't forget to refer neut (:D) or PM me to find out how to save more $$. :)


peace.

[edesignuk]

REFER ME! :D

Just tell 'em yo-momma.net pointed you in their direction ;)

[quidire]

Why don't we formalize this process, so we don't have squabbling on each and every ASO thread?

What do you think about approaching ASO and suggesting that instead of the referral bonus, as the MacRumors population on ASO grows a group discount process goes into effect? In effect spread the referral bonus bounty among everyone equally. Either it could simply be that for every person, the referral bonus is split among the MR ASO members, or a more usual discount:
0-10 MR ASO members 0% discount
10-25 10%
25-50 20%
50-100 30%
100-200 40%
201+ 50%

(these numbers are specious, and would have to be negotiated w/ ASO)

What say you?

[quidire]

either that or if MR were to move to ASO, allow MR to benefit from the referrals made within.

[Hoef]

many people are still singing up with ASO (like Hoef) and are experiecing great service.

Absolutely!! I like the group discount process option!

[apple2991]

EdesignUK: you mentioned registering domains through godaddy.com. Any particular reason why them? What about 007names or register.com?

Just wondering about everybody's take on registering domains...where/why/feedback?

[jeremy.king]

Just wondering about everybody's take on registering domains...where/why/feedback?

I like to register separate from a web host, because it allows me to make changes without being bound to the webhost. Personally I use NamesDirect.com, but their site has degraded in performance big time lately. They offer full DNS management through MyDomain.com which allows you to manage your own site/email/forwarding/etc. if you want.

To me they all do the same thing roughly, so price and support is the main deciding factor.

[thequicksilver]

Sorry, but A Small Orange isn't the best out there in terms of value for money. I've been with Hasweb (http://www.hasweb.com) for eighteen months now, and what I get from them for US$20 per year (price has increased now, so I'm somewhat lucky in this) is 500MB of space, unlimited pretty much everything, 10GB bandwidth, and excellent customer service (tried and tested many times due to errors on my part :)).

The price for the same package now is US$35 per year, which is better than ASO's $60 per year 'Small' package. I'd recommend Hasweb to anyone, and though I've not used ASO myself - and don't doubt they're a good company - I've had enough experience with Hasweb to know they're a proper outfit. Speedy servers too, visit my website to see. :D

Compare Hasweb's Hosting Plans (http://www.hasweb.com/experience/hasweb_hostingplans.html) to ASO's Hosting Plans (http://www.asmallorange.com/services/hosting/) to see what I mean.

There's probably ones out there even cheaper than Hasweb - anyone know of them?

[neut]

Compare Hasweb's Hosting Plans (http://www.hasweb.com/experience/hasweb_hostingplans.html) to ASO's Hosting Plans (http://www.asmallorange.com/services/hosting/) to see what I mean.

Hasweb does not offer unlimited domains unless you buy thier Virtual Server for $599.00...

ASO has response time of > 15min. 24hrs a day in my experience (i received an email response in 10 min at almost midnight on a Sunday). unlimited everything and unbelievable response times are what sold me. :) *oh yeah, reselling is much easier and cheaper with ASO.

i'll stick with Tim and his A Small Orange hosting service.

btw- it looks like they're getting ready to start up the automated service again soon ... they even stopped taking manual orders. :eek:


peace.

[jeremy.king]

You guys are so loyal to ASO, its baffling to me. Personally I look at the best value and if the experience is the same, why not save some money? You have to admit ASO offers weak plans for the price.

If you want to resell, the use Surpass Hosting (http://www.surpasshosting.com) and I am sure there are others at even less.

A 10GB/100GB reseller plan is $25/month. ASO is $35/month for a 4.5GB/100GB. Cut that into 500MB/5GB $5 plans and you can bring in $100/month with Surpass but only $45/month with ASO (since you'll run out of storage) - to me thats a big difference.

Flaming to being in 10...9..8...7...

[neut]

Flaming to being in 10...9..8...7...

funny... :rolleyes:

sorry, but it's not all about the money. anyways, those guys also charge extra for multiple domains... by the time i have a reseller and shared account with no limits (just like ASO) im paying more than i do now.

what i like about ASO is that all plans are no limits and any plan can be a re-seller (SSL) account if that option is chosen (or added later). the plan i bought has more than enough space/bandwidth ... what i pay for is the impeccable customer service and knowing my host will halt accounts if it feels it cannot handle the load; so it's current costumers notice no difference in thier service. if i wanted cheap, id buy a place that over sells it's servers and has a web page and plans that look like the were put together by PC programmers (ok, that's just ego talking). but honestly i like ASO from the moment i saw thier web page. im a designer so it had an immediate impact on me.

maybe it's the same reason i like apple ... it just feels right, ya know? you can tell when good people are behind something they are about. :)


peace.

[Knox]

You guys are so loyal to ASO, its baffling to me. Personally I look at the best value and if the experience is the same, why not save some money? You have to admit ASO offers weak plans for the price.

If you want to resell, the use Surpass Hosting (http://www.surpasshosting.com) and I am sure there are others at even less.

I haven't used either company, so this is just a general comment. Depending on what you're using the hosting for, there is quite often more to consider than just purely price. I would quite happily pay double if it meant I knew I was going to get a well set up server with good support.

However, the cynical part of me wonders whether ASO would still get as many recommendations if the referrer system wasn't in place ;)

[neut]

However, the cynical part of me wonders whether ASO would still get as many recommendations if the referrer system wasn't in place ;)

i was talking up ASO with my co-workers before i knew about the referal service. i was reffered by someone who didn't even take advantage of the referral option. :)

though, now that i know that it's there ... im all for it! :D


peace.

[edesignuk]

However, the cynical part of me wonders whether ASO would still get as many recommendations if the referrer system wasn't in place ;)
Hand on heart, it would honestly make no difference. ASO are by far the best host I've ever used. When I first recommended them to people I didn't even know about the referrer system...I'm not even so sure they had it in the early days.

[thequicksilver]

Hasweb does not offer unlimited domains unless you buy thier Virtual Server for $599.00...

Granted - I'll admit to not having taken this into account as it's not something that attracts me to the service. You could claim, however, that as ASO charge more for bandwidth and storage space that this more than evens itself out.

ASO has response time of > 15min. 24hrs a day in my experience (i received an email response in 10 min at almost midnight on a Sunday). unlimited everything and unbelievable response times are what sold me. :) *oh yeah, reselling is much easier and cheaper with ASO.

Likewise myself with Hasweb as regards support. I'm not a reseller so I can't comment either way on the reselling stuff.

i'll stick with Tim and his A Small Orange hosting service.

Cool, was just pointing out that ASO isn't the be all and end all of good hosting deals - and as you've pointed out, neither is Hasweb. :)

[neut]

Granted - I'll admit to not having taken this into account as it's not something that attracts me to the service. You could claim, however, that as ASO charge more for bandwidth and storage space that this more than evens itself out.

for me it's very important and would be hard to even out ... im getting ready to take on 7 domains. :eek: other services would charge me up the ass to host all these sites and have the option to resell to them if necessary and setup SSL shopping on sny of these sites. i can forsee this groeing into something bigger an like the option of having no limits.

i like being in control of my domains and their web content ... now if i only knew how to be a better web admin i could get all this **** up and running; and this day job gets in the way too. ;)


peace.

[quidire]

Hi there,

I'm not trying to troll, but these people (http://www.dreamhost.com/shared/comparison.html) do seem to offer a better deal (and offer WebDAV)...

At least two MR subscribers use them and recommend them... is there ANY reason I shouldn't go with them?

-RS

[snkTab]

Hi there,

I'm not trying to troll, but these people (http://www.dreamhost.com/shared/comparison.html) do seem to offer a better deal (and offer WebDAV)...

At least two MR subscribers use them and recommend them... is there ANY reason I shouldn't go with them?

-RS

You want WebDAV. DreamHost has it, ASO doesn't. Both have been recommended. Just pick DreamHost. ASO is really nice, but that doesn't mean that you can't find service elsewhere.

Just a question? how do you like webDAV? just want to know how it is.

also do you really need it for the iCal server?

[12ibookg4]

I use dreamhost. 2400MB of storage and 120GB/month trans so they are probably overselling but I still like them. They have been running a promotion for the past few months. During the sign up process, put in the promo code 777 and your first year of hosting wil be $9.24/year (NOT month). AND the domain is included in that price.

[quidire]

You want WebDAV. DreamHost has it, ASO doesn't. Both have been recommended. Just pick DreamHost. ASO is really nice, but that doesn't mean that you can't find service elsewhere.

Just a question? how do you like webDAV? just want to know how it is.

also do you really need it for the iCal server?

I didn't mean to offend; ASO does seem to have better service. Dreamhost has better prices for any given level of account, and has adequate service, but its really the WebDAV issue for me.

How do I like webDAV? I don't know, I haven't signed up yet, and this will be my first experience with it. As far as I know, to use the service to sync multiple iCal calendars on different computers, you do need webDAV.

I really didn't mean to come across as an ASO basher or anything...

-RS

[12ibookg4]

i don't know if this only applies to dreamhost, but when you enable webdav on a directory, you lose ftp access. once I realized that, no WebDAV for me, I'll stick with ftp.

[jsw]

I wanted to go with ASO, found out they're on hold, didn't feel like calling, and just hours ago took advantage of DreamHost's $10/yr offer.

I am a complete newbie when it comes to this stuff, and I figure DreamHost will let me play around and learn. Hell, it's $10 for a freaking year (one time only).

Once I learn enough to be dangerous, it's likely I'll switch over to ASO if the reviews remain glowing. It's not like the $10 is a horrible loss if I do, and I'll likely want a better domain name anyway.

But, for those tempted to get their feet wet who won't be relying on it for business or critical purposes (uptime seems great, but that $10/yr thing is going to pile on the customers), DreamHost is an excellent thing to try. I'm now playing around with file uploads, and it'll be a day or two before I can see my domain, but I plan on having fun.

[snkTab]

I didn't mean to offend

=P i didn't mean to come across as offended. maybe my tone was wrong. I just wanted to point out that as long as other give dreamhost a thumbs up then most likely you will be plenty satisfied with it also.

[emw]

I wanted to go with ASO, found out they're on hold, didn't feel like calling, and just hours ago took advantage of DreamHost's $10/yr offer.

I am a complete newbie when it comes to this stuff, and I figure DreamHost will let me play around and learn. Hell, it's $10 for a freaking year (one time only).

Once I learn enough to be dangerous, it's likely I'll switch over to ASO if the reviews remain glowing. It's not like the $10 is a horrible loss if I do, and I'll likely want a better domain name anyway.

But, for those tempted to get their feet wet who won't be relying on it for business or critical purposes (uptime seems great, but that $10/yr thing is going to pile on the customers), DreamHost is an excellent thing to try. I'm now playing around with file uploads, and it'll be a day or two before I can see my domain, but I plan on having fun.
I just signed up at DreamHost myself - fantastic deal and a great way to get my feet wet, and allow a better way to share things like desktop pictures without the PITA reduction to 100KB.

I've done some website development (if you could call it that) in the past using my ISP's service, but I'm excited about having my own domain. I'm hoping DreamHost is the same. We'll see how it works out, but for $10, how can I pass it up?

[Wyvernspirit]

I've just signed up with dreamhost to give it a try, $10 for the year is too good to pass up. hopefully I'll be able to keep the site next year when I need to pay full price, but I will worry about that then.

I'll rate it after using it for a while.

[emw]

I've just signed up with dreamhost to give it a try, $10 for the year is too good to pass up. hopefully I'll be able to keep the site next year when I need to pay full price, but I will worry about that then.

I'll rate it after using it for a while.Yeah, I had to do it to. I dropped my .mac account recently, but even at full price ($120 for the year) this seems like a much better deal if what you need is storage and e-mail. I haven't gotten too far into it, but I am assuming you can secure the site for storing data. Any ideas or experience from anyone on that?

[neut]

Hi there,

I'm not trying to troll, but these people (http://www.dreamhost.com/shared/comparison.html) do seem to offer a better deal (and offer WebDAV)...

At least two MR subscribers use them and recommend them... is there ANY reason I shouldn't go with them?

-RS

hmmm, WebDAV looks interesting ... to bad ASO doesn't have it.

the domain limit and overselling deters me from places like DreamHost.


peace.

[12ibookg4]

I haven't gotten too far into it, but I am assuming you can secure the site for storing data. Any ideas or experience from anyone on that?
I use it to store data. If you want your directories password-protected, in the goodies tab click on Htaccess and then click set up a new directory. Click the check box and enter in usernames and passwords.

[emw]

I use it to store data. If you want your directories password-protected, in the goodies tab click on Htaccess and then click set up a new directory. Click the check box and enter in usernames and passwords.Thanks for the tip! I figured it would offer it, I just haven't had time to look.

[jsw]

Note also that if you ftp, ssh, or telnet to your account, you're "above" the web folder and so can create stuff there which is invisible - period - on the web. For example, if your main account is "emw", and your domain is "emwdomain.com", you can ssh to emwdomain.com and you'll see a folder named "emwdomain.com", which is your webstuff. You'll also see your mail folder, etc.. You can create new directories at this level as well.

[neut]

Note also that if you ftp, ssh, or telnet to your account, you're "above" the web folder and so can create stuff there which is invisible - period - on the web. For example, if your main account is "emw", and your domain is "emwdomain.com", you can ssh to emwdomain.com and you'll see a folder named "emwdomain.com", which is your webstuff. You'll also see your mail folder, etc.. You can create new directories at this level as well.

yeah, i get this with ASO too ... root (account) level access is a must.


peace.

[rand()]

i don't know if this only applies to dreamhost, but when you enable webdav on a directory, you lose ftp access. once I realized that, no WebDAV for me, I'll stick with ftp.

That's a limit of the way both FTP and WebDAV interact with the underlying file system. I believe any host would have to disable one to enable the other - or get tricky with file and user permissions.

It's because WebDAV requires ownership of the files within your WebDAV-shared directory. This forces FTP into essentially a read-only mode, unless you run FTPd as the web server user, or you run it as root with a web server user login.

Even if you configured it that way, you would lose the file-locking advantages of WebDAV - essentially, an FTP user could login and download/upload updated files while somebody else is trying to modify the same files. It would be chaos! Chaos I say!

This makes sense, because FTP is designed to be used by multiple users in the environment of their own accounts, where WebDAV is designed to be one distributed environment for multiple "authors."

-rand()

[eclipse525]

I heard that ASO stop taking new customers. Is this true?


~e

[edesignuk]

I heard that ASO stop taking new customers. Is this true?


~e
Well it really isn't too hard to find out for yourself - www.asmallorange.com :rolleyes:

But anyway, yes, for a time they stopped taking orders while they "re-designed" their business, in terms of how it functions, staff etc, as they'd grown so quickly. However, a quick visit to their site would show that they are now back taking orders, and I still highly recommend anyone uses them.

Full Details. (http://forums.asmallorange.com/index.php?showtopic=2316)

[neut]

I heard that ASO stop taking new customers. Is this true?


~e

Im pretty sure they started taking new customers ... don't forget to refer neut. ;)

aso plans (http://asmallorange.com/services/hosting/)


peace.