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MacRumors
Dec 21, 2009, 03:06 PM
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Magellan today announced (http://www.magellangps.com/news/releases/viewRelease.asp?id=620) the launch of its GPS car kit for the iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and second-generation iPod touch. Similar to TomTom's car kits for the iPhone (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/08/28/tomtom-car-kit-details-revealed-by-fcc/) and iPod touch (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/11/20/tomtom-to-launch-car-kit-for-ipod-touch/), Magellan's kit offers a built-in GPS receiver, amplified speaker, external power, and hands-free calling compatibility.Features of the Premium Car Kit include the following:

- Secure vehicle mounting for iPhone or iPod touch
- Accommodates most silicon skins and hard shell cases
- Adjustable mount securely rotates iPhone to either portrait or landscape mode for optimal positioning and widescreen route display
- Recharges battery via the vehicle power outlet
- Amplified speaker with volume control for loud and clear phone calls and directions
- Noise canceling microphone for full duplex speakerphone operation
- Auxiliary audio output (for connection to your car stereo)
- Works with all navigation applications (including the Magellan RoadMate for iPhone application)
- Bluetooth enables hands-free callingThe car kit is compatible with Magellan's own GPS applications (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/11/16/magellan-roadmate-2010-north-america-comes-to-app-store/), as well as similar applications from other companies. The car kit is available for pre-order now and is priced at $129.99. Orders placed through Magellan's online store are currently scheduled to ship on January 7th, 2010.

Article Link: Magellan Announces GPS Car Kit for iPhone and iPod Touch (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/12/21/magellan-announces-gps-car-kit-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/)



macslayer118
Dec 21, 2009, 03:19 PM
Why so expensive... stand alone GPS cost less than that...

macduke
Dec 21, 2009, 03:59 PM
Who are the morons that buy this crap for $130?? You could buy a nice GPS unit that has a mount for less than this. This doesn't even include the cost of the software!! Even with the introductory price of $79.99 (which will go up to $99.99 according to the app page), that makes this whole thing cost $210!! Wake up people! You can get their top of the line Roadmate 1700 with a 7" screen for $215 on Amazon!! Or you can get their still nice 1412 with a bigger than iPhone 4.3" screen for $99!! Don't even say it's about convenience. People just don't know how to spend their money wisely. The ONLY way this makes any sort of sense is with iTunes app sharing. If everyone in a household had an iDevice and this software installed across the board from one purchase, then MAYBE.

rstansby
Dec 21, 2009, 04:15 PM
The ONLY way this makes any sort of sense is with iTunes app sharing. If everyone in a household had an iDevice and this software installed across the board from one purchase, then MAYBE.

I haven't tried it with this app, but I believe all of the apps we have bought have automagically installed themselves on all of our iDevices. If my wife tries to buy an app that I have purchased it will say that we have already purchased it, and download it for free.

The dock seems expensive at $130. To play devil's advocate, it does have a GPS receiver built in, along with speaker, microphone and charger. So it is more expensive to manufacture than a simple plastic mount. I suppose some people would say that this device replaces both the stand-alone GPS, and a mount/charger for the iPhone. In that way they can justify the price, by adding the prices of the two other devices. Also by running a nav on the iPhone, users can get better integration of phone, GPS and iPod audio.

I won't be buying this mount, we'll see if anyone else does.

scirica
Dec 21, 2009, 04:22 PM
I haven't tried it with this app, but I believe all of the apps we have bought have automagically installed themselves on all of our iDevices. If my wife tries to buy an app that I have purchased it will say that we have already purchased it, and download it for free.

The dock seems expensive at $130. To play devil's advocate, it does have a GPS receiver built in, along with speaker, microphone and charger. So it is more expensive to manufacture than a simple plastic mount. I suppose some people would say that this device replaces both the stand-alone GPS, and a mount/charger for the iPhone. In that way they can justify the price, by adding the prices of the two other devices. Also by running a nav on the iPhone, users can get better integration of phone, GPS and iPod audio.

I won't be buying this mount, we'll see if anyone else does.

+1 I won't be buying this mount either. What a crock!

spazzcat
Dec 21, 2009, 04:23 PM
$129? What are these people smoking and can I have some....

Redline13
Dec 21, 2009, 04:30 PM
The margins on these must be very healthy.

UnseenLlama
Dec 21, 2009, 04:36 PM
At least it can mount an iPhone with a case...unlike the TomTom. That to me makes this more valuable. Not that I'd buy it at that price...

bretm
Dec 21, 2009, 05:02 PM
I haven't tried it with this app, but I believe all of the apps we have bought have automagically installed themselves on all of our iDevices. If my wife tries to buy an app that I have purchased it will say that we have already purchased it, and download it for free.

The dock seems expensive at $130. To play devil's advocate, it does have a GPS receiver built in, along with speaker, microphone and charger. So it is more expensive to manufacture than a simple plastic mount. I suppose some people would say that this device replaces both the stand-alone GPS, and a mount/charger for the iPhone. In that way they can justify the price, by adding the prices of the two other devices. Also by running a nav on the iPhone, users can get better integration of phone, GPS and iPod audio.

I won't be buying this mount, we'll see if anyone else does.

Charger $10 (CVS drugstore). BT Speakerphone $15 (Target - clearance). Mount $12 (internet search).

So, no won't be buying. In fact, I bought Motion X GPS Drive and it works great. No, it's not fancy, but the roads are live and up to date. If I need something better for cross country travel I'll buy it the day I need it. The MotionX has voice directions for $2.99/mo, and I can purchase that on a need to basis. Seems to work just fine sitting in my cupholder or on the seat next to me.

bretm
Dec 21, 2009, 05:03 PM
$129? What are these people smoking and can I have some....

It should come with some for that price!

djdole
Dec 21, 2009, 06:07 PM
Still WAY too expensive. Yeah, I know the built in GPS will add to that but IMO it's not worth it.

At least it looks like it could expand to accommodate a case (we can only hope).

libertyforall
Dec 21, 2009, 07:00 PM
Seriously? Is there ANY technical reason why it would not work or be supported on the original iPhone?!

rob1
Dec 21, 2009, 07:35 PM
Awesome to see TomTom get some competition.

My Story

I spent $99 for the TomTom app.
Bought TomTom car kit for $120 (found needed for app to work for big city driving)
Worked well, except the car kit rotated when hitting bumps.
Still in exchange hell with TomTom. Their customer service is terrible.
...and seems rotation defect is a wide spread problem.


Again, good to see TomTom get some competition.

irun5k
Dec 21, 2009, 09:52 PM
So lets see, pay a premium over a dedicated GPS navigation device so that my iPhone can be the touch screen display?

These things even come with the GPS receiver. Last time I checked, the iPhone 3G and up include one.

I just can't believe anybody would buy one of these. I definitely want my iPhone to be the single gadget I carry, and this is definitely *NOT* the way to make that happen.

It seems that all we really need is a good nav app from the app store that includes a solid set of map data for your geo areas of interest. Personally I never use any of the other stuff my Garmin does anyway; I've found it to be wrong too frequently on non-address searches.

Primejimbo
Dec 21, 2009, 10:02 PM
$129? What are these people smoking and can I have some....

Just saw a nice Garmin on sale today for $119.00. 129 just for the mount is a joke

techwarrior
Dec 21, 2009, 10:24 PM
hmm... pass...

navguy
Dec 22, 2009, 01:40 AM
receive as a belated gift for Xmas ... thanks Santa! :D:D

doctoree
Dec 22, 2009, 08:50 AM
PRICE= FAIL
NO IPOD TOUCH 1st GEN= DOUBLE FAIL

navguy
Dec 22, 2009, 09:53 AM
Charger $10 (CVS drugstore). BT Speakerphone $15 (Target - clearance). Mount $12 (internet search).



the overall price is high, completely agree ... your price comparison made me laugh :D

to duplicate the features w/ comparable quality ...

mount w/ dedicated power charger and aux out = $35 - $50 on Amazon

quality BT speakerphone = $50 - $100 on Amazon

enhanced GPS chip = $?? ... PRICELESS :D:D

... it ends up being a good deal! :rolleyes:

JonB3Z
Dec 22, 2009, 10:13 AM
If you want an enhanced GPS for your iPhone, you have two options: the TomTom car kit and the Magellan car kit.

Those who are comparing these kits to non-GPS-enhanced holders and BT devices have a valid point if you don't care about the enhanced GPS capability. But in urban environments, that makes a significant difference in the performance of nav apps.

Those who are comparing these kits to standalone GPS units are leaving out some points of comparison: Will your standalone GPS pick an address from your contacts list to navigate to? Will it mute the music that is playing when it speaks directions? Will it **** when you are on the phone? The integration of the GPS nav function with the iPhone has value that you give up when buying a standalone GPS.

These devices have a place in the realm of iPhone accessories. They may not fit your needs, but that doesn't mean anyone buying them is an idiot -- they just have different needs.

Diode
Dec 22, 2009, 10:39 AM
Those who are comparing these kits to standalone GPS units are leaving out some points of comparison: Will your standalone GPS pick an address from your contacts list to navigate to? Will it mute the music that is playing when it speaks directions? Will it **** when you are on the phone? The integration of the GPS nav function with the iPhone has value that you give up when buying a standalone GPS.

These devices have a place in the realm of iPhone accessories. They may not fit your needs, but that doesn't mean anyone buying them is an idiot -- they just have different needs.

Not to mention a lot of the cheaper GPS's lack features such as lane guidance, traffic, TTS, IQ Routes and may other features that Magellan, Navigon and TomTom include.

You start adding these features in and you get a handheld that's $200+; those cheap refurbs usually don't include the latest maps - something you'll have to purchase for $60+.

SimonTheSoundMa
Dec 22, 2009, 10:43 AM
These things even come with the GPS receiver. Last time I checked, the iPhone 3G and up include one.

iPhone has assisted GPS (AGPS). AGPS cannot locate where you are, it relies on an external server to triangulate your position. AGPS uses less power than GPS as it doesn't have to process your position on the device. Cell towers are also used as a beacon.

GPS on the other hand, will find your location, and is more accurate and runs in real time, however it takes 30 seconds to a minute to find your position.

Loose phone reception or have network problems with AGPS, and you're lost.

macUser2007
Dec 22, 2009, 11:17 AM
iPhone has assisted GPS (AGPS). AGPS cannot locate where you are, it relies on an external server to triangulate your position. Basically, AGPS uses less power than GPS as it doesn't have to process your position on the device.

GPS on the other hand, will find your location, and is more accurate and runs in real time.

Loose phone reception or have network problems with AGPS, and you're lost.

Huh? The last 2 generations of the iPhone have had real GPS chip. Not the greatest, but it works fine in most cases. And yes, it does triangulate too, but that's just for faster cold starts.

Diode
Dec 22, 2009, 01:00 PM
iPhone has assisted GPS (AGPS). AGPS cannot locate where you are, it relies on an external server to triangulate your position. AGPS uses less power than GPS as it doesn't have to process your position on the device. Cell towers are also used as a beacon.

GPS on the other hand, will find your location, and is more accurate and runs in real time, however it takes 30 seconds to a minute to find your position.

Loose phone reception or have network problems with AGPS, and you're lost.

You're confused with your own lingo. While the iPhone does indeed have an AGPS chip, the assisted part is only to receive a faster satellite lock. Once the GPS chip locks on to a few satellites its behaves like a normal GPS chip.

If there are no cell towers to assist the chip, then it reverts to the longer searching method to a acquire a lock. The iPhone's GPS will work without a cell tower.

Beric
Dec 22, 2009, 02:04 PM
I wish I could get a GPS receiver for my iPod touch for $50, and then buy whatever GPS software I want. These prices are out of the roof. A GPS chip costs less than $10 to produce, I'll bet.

trainwrecka
Dec 23, 2009, 12:56 AM
I know it is easy to hate on the price of these things, but convenience comes at a price. You can either leave this mount in your car, and only need to worry about the iPhone - which you would have on you anyway - or you can worry about the iPhone and stand-alone GPS. Most people pay to condense things.

Don't believe me? Ask yourself why you pay for an iPhone when your old cell phone + laptop did the same thing. :)

wackymacky
Dec 23, 2009, 02:39 PM
These are too expensive currently, but the more manufactories making them the better as this will bring the price down.


My one thought is though, will they work with the 2010 iPhone (+/- O.S 4.0), otherwise it will be a waste of money!

navguy
Dec 24, 2009, 01:11 AM
These are too expensive currently, but the more manufactories making them the better as this will bring the price down.

Maybe a bit ... but I'd expect to see the price of the App have a lot more price compression than the hardware ...

Hardware depends on the quality and cost of parts, the markup tends to remain constant ... the only way the cost will compress is if they use less costly and ultimately quality parts ... and I hate when that happens ... you'll get unusable bluetooth speaker phone, no AUX out, and GPS chip will become closer to phone's

A Tier 2 hardware company will definnitely build one of these for less, but w/ powered mounts already costing $35 - $50 on Amazon; when you add bluetooth, speaker, and GPS ... I'm guessing that $50-$75 wil be a good deal but forget quality ...

Since hardware has a fixed cost pricing structure, I don't see the Tier 1 companies won't go much below $99 over time ...

MSUSpartan
Dec 25, 2009, 12:02 AM
If this is made by Apple, everyone here would talk about what a great deal it is... Maybe even underpriced.

nsayer
Dec 30, 2009, 03:21 PM
Loose phone reception or have network problems with AGPS, and you're lost.

The iPhone can, apparently, still get a fix without the cell network operating. It may just take longer. Of course, without the cell network or wifi, the Google maps app will only show you the checkerboard. The GPS map apps you buy in the store for $x9.99 also load a few hundred MB worth of maps in, meaning they'll work even without the network.

iMacMomma
Jan 2, 2010, 06:09 PM
Too pricey but I have built in GPS and a charger so why???
Why doesn't Apple focus on working out tethering in the US with AT&T??That's what we REALLY need!:apple:

lfine39
Jan 4, 2010, 07:07 PM
Call me crazy but I want this yesterday..... could not wait to order I have tried every cradle/holder for my cased iphone all crap I just saw youtube video on this and wish it was available today....... I would be installing right now...........

DigMe
Jan 5, 2010, 09:10 AM
I would love to have this and I love the bluetooth phone/iPod/GPS integration of the iPhone with Navigon installed but I don't think I'll ever be able to bring myself to spend that kind of jack for it.

I wouldn't have bought Navigon either if I hadn't gotten a buttload of iTunes gift cards for Christmas and it hadn't been on sale for $60. It's a nice app though.

brad

navguy
Jan 5, 2010, 09:22 AM
The iPhone can, apparently, still get a fix without the cell network operating. It may just take longer. Of course, without the cell network or wifi, the Google maps app will only show you the checkerboard. The GPS map apps you buy in the store for $x9.99 also load a few hundred MB worth of maps in, meaning they'll work even without the network.

to confirm, i can use my prior 3G phone w/o SIM card to run Navigon ... granted no traffic or google search while driving, but for regular navigation features works fine w/o cellular signal.