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JayQC
Dec 21, 2009, 11:07 PM
I've already made a thread a week ago asking about specific issues for a specific model, but I'll make this one more obvious with the title and its scope larger.

It seems like the majority of issues we can read about are related to the 27", with only some people mentioning having problems with the smaller model.

The idea is if you have any problem with the 21.5" and only the 21.5", regardless of the graphics card, manifest yourself in this thread so we can see how this model is affected compared to the 27" ! Yellow tinge, flickering, noisy screen or HD, you name it..



Tenshi
Dec 21, 2009, 11:55 PM
I just have the yellow tinge - very subtle I may add. Otherwise this computer runs like a dream.

JayQC
Dec 22, 2009, 02:57 AM
This thread has only been visited 49 times so far, but is it already safe to assume that the 21.5" iMacs are much less affected or is everyone here buying a 27" ?

dagored
Dec 22, 2009, 06:17 AM
I just have the yellow tinge - very subtle I may add. Otherwise this computer runs like a dream.

I also have a slight yellow tinge in the lower right corner of my 21 inch iMac. Arrived yesterday. Should I do the rom upgrade. I have the ATI Radeon HD 4670 ?

VPofIT
Dec 22, 2009, 08:49 AM
The only problem I have had so far is the Hitachi hard drive in my 21.5" imac died Saturday without any warning signs. I purchased on Nov. 9th so I took it to the genius bar and told them it was a Christmas present and they switched it out for a new one no questions asked.

This system has a Seagate hd and so far so good. Neither system appeared to have any yellow at the bottom or screen flickering.

ScottFitz
Dec 22, 2009, 10:58 AM
it took me three attempts to find a 21.5 that had only a minor, if any, touch of yellow in one corner. It's quiet and fast and I love it. Overall,t he LED screen is amazingly sharp and bright. I love it. But you must have a wee bit of patience to buy one this week. Wait a month.

JayQC
Dec 22, 2009, 02:40 PM
it took me three attempts to find a 21.5 that had only a minor, if any, touch of yellow in one corner. It's quiet and fast and I love it. Overall,t he LED screen is amazingly sharp and bright. I love it. But you must have a wee bit of patience to buy one this week. Wait a month.

It seems the educational store where I want to buy it (physical place, not the online store) sells the base model of the iMac but barely sells the model with the Radeon 4670, I should be good to buy it anytime without having to wait :)

It's encouraging to not hear a lot about the 21.5" having issues!

Jedi
Dec 22, 2009, 03:50 PM
So I guess it is not safe to buy the ATI - iMac 21.5" yet.

Scott ,

Having gone through 2 and now a 3rd , that is something that Apple should be looking into __IMO !

I would love to go out right now and buy one !!

However , the "better angels of my mind" are telling me to wait , but you say about a month ?

Sounds about right given the holidays and all.

But gee , it seems to me that Apple should have got it right the first time.

Or did they have these things setting in a warehouse somewhere for 4~5 months until they released them ?

Anyway here is the one I want ( with the numeric keyboard ) >

http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MC413LL/A?mco=MTM3NDc2NDE

I don`t know if I will ever get one , but I would like to.

Apple should really get there crap together , bugs ... how many times have we had to listen about buggy Apples !!

Anyway ,

Happy Holidays to ALL !! :D

Take care ,

Gary 

mikaronni
Dec 22, 2009, 05:57 PM
My week 46 iMac only had a yellow tint problem that progressively got worse. Other than that, everything was perfect.

It's in repair right now, so hopefully the new screen will be flawless.

AlaskaMoose
Dec 22, 2009, 07:37 PM
Week 49 iMac (21.1" 3.33GHz): slight yellow tinge at the bottom half of the screen.

I am waiting to a replacement iMac (FedEx is experiencing delivery problems this week). If the replacement has problems, I will ask for a refund and wait until Apple solves the malfunctions.

JayQC
Dec 26, 2009, 01:37 AM
Well I finally ordered my iMac today, hopefully it will be at least a week 52 and free of problems !

Dont Hurt Me
Dec 26, 2009, 09:23 AM
I feel there are more 21.5s out there with yellow only most folks dont see it or arent aware etc. Here at Rumors there are a lot of graphics people and they use the bigger display hence more 27s being looked at very close vs the 21.5. Other then that this thing has been awesome but when you spend $1500 on a computer you want it to be perfect.

iphoneftw
Dec 26, 2009, 09:49 AM
My 21.5 inch iMac has been good to me so far. It has no yellow tint or flickering. My only problem is my 500gb hitachi drive it gets very loud and annoying

dagored
Dec 26, 2009, 10:23 AM
My 21.5 inch iMac has been good to me so far. It has no yellow tint or flickering. My only problem is my 500gb hitachi drive it gets very loud and annoying

Take it back. The newer models have WD. I have a 1TB 21.5 and my wife has the 500 gig. Both WD and quiet. You can here a pin drop.

We both have a slight discoloration in the lower right corner only. Keeping for now but thats why they have Applecare.

Malivar
Dec 26, 2009, 11:37 AM
I have the 21.5" iMac and.. The only thing that was 'wrong' with it was that it sat at the white boot screen for a long time. That was solved by reinstalling SL, though.

-No yellow tinge
-No HD noise

929406
Dec 26, 2009, 08:25 PM
have had mine since the 24th and no issues what so ever like every other mac i've had. the screen is great and hd isn't loud, no noticeable fan noise. Have it hooked up to a 23" ACD and the new screen is sharper with more contrast

harleygold
Dec 26, 2009, 08:42 PM
have had mine since the 24th and no issues what so ever like every other mac i've had. the screen is great and hd isn't loud, no noticeable fan noise. Have it hooked up to a 23" ACD and the new screen is sharper with more contrast

you have a pic with your setup?

tigereat
Dec 26, 2009, 10:39 PM
I also have a slight yellow tinge in the lower right corner of my 21 inch iMac. Arrived yesterday. Should I do the rom upgrade. I have the ATI Radeon HD 4670 ?

Are you going to return it? I have a very slight yellow tint in the lower screen (not just the corner like yours). But that is the only problem I have so far.

I don't know if I should return it since I just got it a week ago. However, If didnt test it, I woudnot have noticed the yellow tint issue. It is noticable when I open the whole white blank screen.

I heard someone said if I keep it, it will be getting worse and worse (more yellow) Is it true?

PS. I'm not sure if I should take some screen shots showing my yellow tint issue and see what you guys think if it

thestumper
Dec 26, 2009, 10:49 PM
My "third" 21.5 is hanging in there. My first was a refurb and had a significant yellow tint. The replacement screen was considerably worse. The current iMac has some yellow, but it is better than the first two attempts. Everything else is tight (works well) and it is whisper quiet. Will be calling support on Monday just to have a record of the fact that this one isn't perfect either, but I'll likely be keeping it until Apple figures out the screen thing.

tigereat
Dec 26, 2009, 11:08 PM
I have another question. I'm worried that if I return my 21.5 inch right now,the replacement will have the same issue or even more issues. I only have the yellow tint problem. no other issues.

My question is that If i keep it until all issues has been solved, can i return it to get the replacement at the moment? or only within 14 days policy?


Thanks

tigereat
Dec 26, 2009, 11:14 PM
Week 49 iMac (21.1" 3.33GHz): slight yellow tinge at the bottom half of the screen.

I am waiting to a replacement iMac (FedEx is experiencing delivery problems this week). If the replacement has problems, I will ask for a refund and wait until Apple solves the malfunctions.


I got the same model as you. How can i get a replacment from Apple? just call them? Do you need to return the problematic one before getting the replacement?

Moreover, 3.33GHz model is a CTO model, So How can you get the refund? I thought BTO or CTO cannot be returned.

THanks

tigereat
Dec 26, 2009, 11:33 PM
I would like to know if my HD on my 21.5 (1TB) is from Hitashi or WD. How can i check it ? I went to System perference and it didn't tell me the name of the company but Model number and Serial Number only

THanks

JayQC
Dec 26, 2009, 11:34 PM
I got the same model as you. How can i get a replacment from Apple? just call them? Do you need to return the problematic one before getting the replacement?

Moreover, 3.33GHz model is a CTO model, So How can you get the refund? I thought BTO or CTO cannot be returned.

THanks

I would think customized orders are returnable if they have a defect, otherwise i'm in the same boat, having just ordered mine !

tigereat
Dec 27, 2009, 12:05 AM
I would think customized orders are returnable if they have a defect, otherwise i'm in the same boat, having just ordered mine !

it can be returned to get the new one but not for the refund. That's what I heard. Not sure if they have changed the rule

Dino1956
Dec 27, 2009, 12:43 AM
Opened my 21.5" iMac Yesterday, Christmas Day. I had read this & other Posts about the issue weeks ago, so of course I used the Test & Yes, mine has Yellow Tint, Bottom Left part of Screen. I probably would have never noticed, had I not done the test. It's that slight. No flickering. No Screen Noise. BTW, mine was made week 45 & has the NVidea Graphics Card. But I have to tell you, this is the best Computer I have ever used. Fast, Stable, Quiet, & Beautiful. I started to think about going through the entire hassle of exchanging it, but I decided I'm keeping it. I hear there are a lot of horror stories & from what I read, I think the newer bunch have the same & other issues. Yes , I'm disappointed that Apple did not notice this from the Get Go. But I love this thing & cannot part with it. :-) The only thing I can hope, that over time, The slight Yellow Tint, does not become a severe & noticeable Yellow Tint. I welcome opinions & knowledge from others.

GaresTaylan
Dec 27, 2009, 01:03 AM
Opened my 21.5" iMac Yesterday, Christmas Day. I had read this & other Posts about the issue weeks ago, so of course I used the Test & Yes, mine has Yellow Tint, Bottom Left part of Screen. I probably would have never noticed, had I not done the test. It's that slight. No flickering. No Screen Noise. BTW, mine was made week 45 & has the NVidea Graphics Card. But I have to tell you, this is the best Computer I have ever used. Fast, Stable, Quiet, & Beautiful. I started to think about going through the entire hassle of exchanging it, but I decided I'm keeping it. I hear there are a lot of horror stories & from what I read, I think the newer bunch have the same & other issues. Yes , I'm disappointed that Apple did not notice this from the Get Go. But I love this thing & cannot part with it. :-) The only thing I can hope, that over time, The slight Yellow Tint, does not become a severe & noticeable Yellow Tint. I welcome opinions & knowledge from others.

Welcome to the club. I have this same machine and love it. I really contemplated switching it out for the next model with ATI graphics, but I have not found a single reason to do so yet.

mikaronni
Dec 27, 2009, 04:04 AM
So I just got my iMac from repair, and the yellow screen issue is still present, although it is not as prominent anymore. Has anyone else sent their iMac in for a repair and got a successful fix? I'm thinking about just waiting and getting another fix later when they for sure have perfect screens and just enjoy my new computer for now.

dagored
Dec 27, 2009, 04:19 AM
Are you going to return it? I have a very slight yellow tint in the lower screen (not just the corner like yours). But that is the only problem I have so far.

I don't know if I should return it since I just got it a week ago. However, If didnt test it, I woudnot have noticed the yellow tint issue. It is noticable when I open the whole white blank screen.

I heard someone said if I keep it, it will be getting worse and worse (more yellow) Is it true?

PS. I'm not sure if I should take some screen shots showing my yellow tint issue and see what you guys think if it


Right now no. I love this machine. Since the lower right corner is just slightly off, I do no want to go thru the hassle.

I have dealt with Apple for the last 20 years and since I purchased Applecare, if the screen does get worse, I would seek a repair later, when the problem has been solved.

The machine will be a week old tomorrow and it works perfectly right now, all apps and data are back. I can't bring myself to exchange it or take it in for repair.

Dino1956
Jan 13, 2010, 06:29 PM
Since my prior post, after 5-6 days. mine started to develop Intermittent Screen Flicker. I sent it back for an exchange yesterday. will get my replacement in about a week. It was 21.5 NVidea Week 45 Seagate HD

AlaskaMoose
Jan 13, 2010, 10:48 PM
My week-49 iMac (maybe week-50?) had a slight yellow tinge, but the replacement (week 51) looks fine. I have been looking for faults on it for over a week now :D

Nothern Ranger
Jan 14, 2010, 09:28 PM
People i am very concerned, i am somewhat a avid gamer only with the computer since i plan to use Starcraft 2 and possibly other future games with my base model imac 21.5 inch, the problem is i have the nvidia 9400m 256mb shared memory graphics card that sucks big time when i tested it out on COD4 and it only does slightly choppy at its most suitable resolution 1280:720p when its is impossible to do 1080p without playing the perspective of drunk guy because there is so little FPS and much lag. My sibling made my dad get this computer when he saw the deal on macconections.com for 1049 bucks, and its 1250 with the warranty, there is no discussing or talking about this problem with my sibling as i know better because he is one stubborn extremist pro-apple fan bastard that wont even admit to himself that there is one single bad apple product such as the mighty mouse for example, which he has never mentioned a problem with somehow, so screw that ass-face; which has brought me to the judgement of you guys with unbiased suggestions on what i can do about this problem. I did a little research and i found that there is nothing good about this blasted cursed graphics card other than it does well on 1280:720p on god damned laptops and 1-2 year old imac models, it is a laptop and mac mini graphics card not a high performance all in one desktop card for F**Ks sake! I am in the worst case scenario and i knew the consequences after using COD4 seeing the reviews, and reading one person comment: "If you plan going to use this graphics card for gaming, that your in a really bad spot right now" Now i find this inexcusable that a unhappy mac customer should have to deal with this bulls**t in the first place because macs are supposed to be all around reliable products, apple knows better but instead they decide to slap in this piece of ****** god damned worthless outdated integrated nvidia 9400m 256mb shared memory junk into their best designed and successful computers base model, the imac, Now i cant switch to a different comp manufacturer because there is no way i am going to put up with pc's again so apple, shame on you, fix this problem, dont ever let me down, your not receiving Company growth during this depression because of this damned bs, your not a bunch of god damned 10 year olds on a 3rd grade project, you have the best designers in the world. Now i solemnly, humbly, and sincerely ask anybody, please tell me some suggestions to get out of this mess, a way to get the upgraded 21.5 inch 4670 ATI radeon dedicated memory graphics card, a way to make this stupid card work better, a way to upgrade to a better card (i don't think its possible because its soldered into the motherboard and integrated) or some desperate solution because the way it looks, this big ass problem is going to bite me in the ass repeatably during the years i have with it, now i love everything about this computer, i wouldn't have any other one, but i don't want my first mac experience to be ruined by apple and my cursed sibling, now i'm not sure it can be returned because ive have it for over a month and a half now, so please somebody answer this call, all the best to you, thanks..

danilikos
Jan 15, 2010, 03:10 AM
I bought my iMac on november. After few weeks I have issue that computer won't sleep automatically.
I'm already reseted PRAM, SMC, tested hardware, but there is no lucky.

I'm very satisfied : (((

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sorry for brilliant english, russian.

caero
Jan 15, 2010, 05:24 AM
I've just sent my W51 21.5 back with a severe yellow tint issue.

Apart from that no issues.

swiftflo
Jan 15, 2010, 07:01 AM
I have the 21.5" which I purchased in Nov.09,week 42, no yellow tinge at the moment. My only problems being with the Magic Mouse (posted elsewhere).:)

iamthedudeman
Jan 15, 2010, 08:44 AM
I feel there are more 21.5s out there with yellow only most folks dont see it or arent aware etc. Here at Rumors there are a lot of graphics people and they use the bigger display hence more 27s being looked at very close vs the 21.5. Other then that this thing has been awesome but when you spend $1500 on a computer you want it to be perfect.

I agree with you, but it isn't like the 21.5 is a "small' screen. It is still a big screen, but small when compared to the 27'. I just think it is more of a issue with that larger screen. Very few people on here are seeing any yellow on their screens. I for one don't see any at all.

Faalkor
Jan 15, 2010, 10:44 AM
I am completely satisfied with my 21.5. I bought the high end 21.5 at Best Buy the week of Thanksgiving and it is powerful enough to play all the games I care about...Wow, SC, and WC3.

However, it will be for sale later this year if they put the i5 in the 21.5.

Nothern Ranger
Jan 15, 2010, 11:44 AM
Now try COD4 on it dude WITH THE BASE MODEL not yours, your upgraded 21.5 would have been what i would have gotten, it will be the choppiest thing you've ever seen, sure i use WC3 like you on it on 1080p full high specs but that games 7 years old, you have to compare current ones, and for starcraft 1? thats just plain overkill dude, of course it will handle those games because they are so old, you could get a simple pc today and get the same performance, the imac is supposed to give you all round reliable high performance. But i plan to use this imac for several games including starcraft 2 which IM SURE you will get as you know its popularity and i can tell you, it wont be high end specs and resolution sorry. This is'nt the computer i thought i payed for, i don't a non-outdated piece of crap that is nvidia 9400m, im sure your 21.5 is working well so i envy you, be glad your not in my position because the difference in graphics cards between you and me Nvidia 9400m 256mb shared memory < ATI Radeon 4670 IS DAMNED HUGE

Faalkor
Jan 15, 2010, 04:12 PM
Now try COD4 on it dude WITH THE BASE MODEL not yours, your upgraded 21.5 would have been what i would have gotten, it will be the choppiest thing you've ever seen, sure i use WC3 like you on it on 1080p full high specs but that games 7 years old, you have to compare current ones, and for starcraft 1? thats just plain overkill dude, of course it will handle those games because they are so old, you could get a simple pc today and get the same performance, the imac is supposed to give you all round reliable high performance. But i plan to use this imac for several games including starcraft 2 which IM SURE you will get as you know its popularity and i can tell you, it wont be high end specs and resolution sorry. This is'nt the computer i thought i payed for, i don't a non-outdated piece of crap that is nvidia 9400m, im sure your 21.5 is working well so i envy you, be glad your not in my position because the difference in graphics cards between you and me Nvidia 9400m 256mb shared memory < ATI Radeon 4670 IS DAMNED HUGE

I am sure there is a big difference in performance, sorry your performance is so poor. The only future games I am interested in playing on the iMac is SC2 and Diablo 3; I have an xbox for everything else. And since the :apple: brand holds its value I don't think I will have any problems trading up for a couple hundred bucks once something comes out that is worth trading up for.

ViViDboarder
Jan 19, 2010, 09:08 AM
My week 46 iMac only had a yellow tint problem that progressively got worse. Other than that, everything was perfect.

It's in repair right now, so hopefully the new screen will be flawless.

My 21.5" ATI never had any issues. I got it the second week they were out too.

Now try COD4 on it dude WITH THE BASE MODEL not yours, your upgraded 21.5 would have been what i would have gotten, it will be the choppiest thing you've ever seen, sure i use WC3 like you on it on 1080p full high specs but that games 7 years old, you have to compare current ones, and for starcraft 1? thats just plain overkill dude, of course it will handle those games because they are so old, you could get a simple pc today and get the same performance, the imac is supposed to give you all round reliable high performance. But i plan to use this imac for several games including starcraft 2 which IM SURE you will get as you know its popularity and i can tell you, it wont be high end specs and resolution sorry. This is'nt the computer i thought i payed for, i don't a non-outdated piece of crap that is nvidia 9400m, im sure your 21.5 is working well so i envy you, be glad your not in my position because the difference in graphics cards between you and me Nvidia 9400m 256mb shared memory < ATI Radeon 4670 IS DAMNED HUGE

Yea... You bought the base model. What did you expect with a mobile version of a videocard embeded with shared memory? Nobody should expect that to handle current gen 3D games. Casual games sure, but not COD4.

The 9400m is fine for probably 70% of mac users. Many people aren't trying to play COD4 on their iMacs. You and I happen to be in the upper 30% of people who do demand a little more out of their computers. As an avid gamer I'm sure you probably would have recognized that the 9400m was definitely underpowered for your uses and I'm sure if you went into an Apple store and mentioned COD4 they would have pointed you straight to the ATI version (if not only to sell a more expensive model, haha).

Your sibling would be stubborn to admit that the computer can't do what you want it to. It's not really Apple's fault... It's his fault for recommending your dad buy an entry level model when you're a gamer, haha.

Maybe you can look to sell your current iMac on ebay and upgrade to the ATI version? I hear people get a reasonable portion of their money back on ebay sales. Actually they are going for about $1000 with warranty. Which means you could recover almost the entire cost. Then, if you're a student somewhere, you can buy the 21.5" ATI for $1400 from the Apple Store. That would come out to a $400 upgrade cost. Not too bad.

iamthedudeman
Jan 20, 2010, 01:22 AM
Now try COD4 on it dude WITH THE BASE MODEL not yours, your upgraded 21.5 would have been what i would have gotten, it will be the choppiest thing you've ever seen, sure i use WC3 like you on it on 1080p full high specs but that games 7 years old, you have to compare current ones, and for starcraft 1? thats just plain overkill dude, of course it will handle those games because they are so old, you could get a simple pc today and get the same performance, the imac is supposed to give you all round reliable high performance. But i plan to use this imac for several games including starcraft 2 which IM SURE you will get as you know its popularity and i can tell you, it wont be high end specs and resolution sorry. This is'nt the computer i thought i payed for, i don't a non-outdated piece of crap that is nvidia 9400m, im sure your 21.5 is working well so i envy you, be glad your not in my position because the difference in graphics cards between you and me Nvidia 9400m 256mb shared memory < ATI Radeon 4670 IS DAMNED HUGE

For general computing and video, the base 21.5 imac excels at what it was designed for. The 9400M G is not the card you want if you are a avid gamer. It excels at video though with a embedded dedicated video processor and support for Open GL. There is not much difference between the base model with the 3.06 Core 2 Duo and the $1500 21.5 or the 27 model with the ATI card for general computing tasks or video.


The only main difference is in gaming. Thats it.

http://www.macworld.com/article/143636/2009/11/imacs_late2009_benchmarks.html


And why are you complaining exactly? Did you even buy the imac?

I take it you're very young. You should just be happy that you got a $1200 imac on your hands and buy a Xbox. Stop being spoiled and thank your dad for the imac.

Compare your imac with other All in one's on the market and then tell me if it's under powered.

The 9400M G is a decent card for what it is designed to do. Highend gaming is not it's strong point. Video playback is as is Open GL. You have a powerful computing machine on your hands. Not a high-end gaming machine. Nor was it designed to be.

You just got the Mac. Convince your dad to hand it in get a refund and go buy a 24 model with a better graphics card for the same price. Argue that it has a bigger screen, that should convince him.

Problem solved. ;)

jaskm26
Jan 20, 2010, 02:31 AM
Well I received my 1st Imac on the 12th of Jan , 21.5i & have no big issues at all.
I thought i could see a yellow tinge on the screen , but after asking a dozen or so people to look at it , I think it was in my head. (and if it really is there it is not affecting my day to day use.

silent as can be (Which is so amazing) , only issue so far is Itunes needed to be re-downloaded as it was corrupt??
& Ical struggled to import dates & crashed , but apart from that i absolutely love this computer....:cool:

Nothern Ranger
Jan 23, 2010, 12:04 AM
Dude! when u make a 1149 dollar computer thats a ultimate all in one you dont jam a outdated piece of crap into a beautiful machine like the imac. tell me, IN A CUSTOM PC OR ALIENWARE, I COULD GET THE DAMNED 5870 ATI GPU THAT MAKES THIS 9400 LOOK LIKE THE GOD DAMNED HORSE NEXT TO A SPORTS CAR; what the damn good of a 1080 display IF U CANT DO ANYTHIGN WITH IT BUT WATCH LOW RES VIDEOS ONLINE, YOUR OCASSIONAL 1080 DESKTOP PICTURE, AND IPHOTOS, i use word, powerpoint and thats about it for the imac as well as web browsing and gaming, ANY COMPUTER CAN DO THESE THINGS, BUT NOW THE IMAC CANT USE ITS FULL DISPLAY? MIGHT AS WELL SHRINK IT BACK TO DAMNED 1024:720 IF YOUR GONNA HAVE A NVIDIA 9400 GEFORCE BULLSH** PLUGGED IN AND INTEGRATED LIKE A VIRUS SO U CANT PULLL THE CRAP OUT. Even casual users of the imac would probably get a ATI 4670 to keep their imac future proof, the main feature of the imac is the 1920:1080P DISPLAY ON THE 21.5 WHATS THE PURPOSE OF A NICE DISPLAY IF U CANT USER IT, REASONABLE CHEAP YET OK GPU GOES OKAY WITH BIG ASS HIGH DEF DEMANDING DISPLAY, NOT THIS BULLSH**!!?! FAN-FU*KING TASTIC APPLE, you really hit a home run, and shaved alot of money off unsuspecting customers, ripped them off, so that they can pay 300 extra bucks for a ****** 140 bucks ATI radeon GPU that barely cuts it anyways, Apple is known to use outdated crappy GPU's so their displays can be used by real mac computers such as mac pro's, i shouldn't have to be hitting a god damned dead end with upgrades.. And by the way, iCANT SELL THIS THING, IMA HAVE TO KEEP IT, THIS IS WHY PC' USERS SWITCH TO MACS, BECAUSE OF LOWER CUSTOMER SATISFACTION WITH THEIR PRODUCTS, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND, GET YOUR SH** OFF THE GROUND AND TOGETHER APPLE!!!!.

iamthedudeman
Jan 23, 2010, 12:32 AM
Dude! when u make a 1149 dollar computer thats a ultimate all in one you dont jam a outdated piece of crap into a beautiful machine like the imac. tell me, IN A CUSTOM PC OR ALIENWARE, I COULD GET THE DAMNED 5870 ATI GPU THAT MAKES THIS 9400 LOOK LIKE THE GOD DAMNED HORSE NEXT TO A SPORTS CAR; what the damn good of a 1080 display IF U CANT DO ANYTHIGN WITH IT BUT WATCH LOW RES VIDEOS ONLINE, YOUR OCASSIONAL 1080 DESKTOP PICTURE, AND IPHOTOS, i use word, powerpoint and thats about it for the imac as well as web browsing and gaming, ANY COMPUTER CAN DO THESE THINGS, BUT NOW THE IMAC CANT USE ITS FULL DISPLAY? MIGHT AS WELL SHRINK IT BACK TO DAMNED 1024:720 IF YOUR GONNA HAVE A NVIDIA 9400 GEFORCE BULLSH** PLUGGED IN AND INTEGRATED LIKE A VIRUS SO U CANT PULLL THE CRAP OUT. Even casual users of the imac would probably get a ATI 4670 to keep their imac future proof, the main feature of the imac is the 1920:1080P DISPLAY ON THE 21.5 WHATS THE PURPOSE OF A NICE DISPLAY IF U CANT USER IT, REASONABLE CHEAP YET OK GPU GOES OKAY WITH BIG ASS HIGH DEF DEMANDING DISPLAY, NOT THIS BULLSH**!!?! FAN-FU*KING TASTIC APPLE, you really hit a home run, and shaved alot of money off unsuspecting customers, ripped them off, so that they can pay 300 extra bucks for a ****** 140 bucks ATI radeon GPU that barely cuts it anyways, Apple is known to use outdated crappy GPU's so their displays can be used by real mac computers such as mac pro's, i shouldn't have to be hitting a god damned dead end with upgrades.. And by the way, iCANT SELL THIS THING, IMA HAVE TO KEEP IT, THIS IS WHY PC' USERS SWITCH TO MACS, BECAUSE OF LOWER CUSTOMER SATISFACTION WITH THEIR PRODUCTS, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND, GET YOUR SH** OFF THE GROUND AND TOGETHER APPLE!!!!.

Settle down Jr.

Who said anything about selling it. If it is within the 30 days you can hand it in for a restocking fee and get your money back. And buy an another one that fits your needs. Like gaming. Stop being spoiled and just be thankful you have a good dad that buys you a nice desktop Mac.

Did you check the link in my former post? The 9400M G excels at video playback. The 9400M G will product visuals just as well as a GeForce 240. It doesn't take alot of computing power to produce a nice photo. Or play HD video. If that was the case every Blu-Ray player on the planet would have a high end graphics card inside of it. Sorry it's doesn't work that way.

HD movie playback has little strain on the GPU. The 9400M G will display visuals such as photos on your 21.5 screen as well as the most expensive Graphics card on the market. It will display video just as well to since it has a dedicated video processor built into the graphics card. Just for HD video.

Tell me how a better GPU helped in movie playback here. The GPU has little effect in every day computing or watching HD video. It has a effect on gaming thats it. And that is all it comes down too. So stop whining.

http://www.macworld.com/article/143636/2009/11/imacs_late2009_benchmarks.html

For gaming the 9400 GPU is not the card you would want. It cannot produce decent frame rates for good gaming. Nor was it designed to. I agree with you that Apples need to get a better GPU for 1200 dollars which is allot of money. They are behind in that department. Put they have the most powerful CPU's for a all in one on the market today. But just be Glad that it wan't your money that was spent.

Instead of whining like a 12 year old, you should be thanking your dad that you got a great desktop computer. you can still hand it in for a 24' model for the same price with a better graphics card if you're within your 30 day window.

Kids these days. Don't Appreciate anything. :(

ViViDboarder
Jan 23, 2010, 11:23 AM
Dude! when u make a 1149 dollar computer thats a ultimate all in one you dont jam a outdated piece of crap into a beautiful machine like the imac. tell me, IN A CUSTOM PC OR ALIENWARE, I COULD GET THE DAMNED 5870 ATI GPU THAT MAKES THIS 9400 LOOK LIKE THE GOD DAMNED HORSE NEXT TO A SPORTS CAR; what the damn good of a 1080 display IF U CANT DO ANYTHIGN WITH IT BUT WATCH LOW RES VIDEOS ONLINE, YOUR OCASSIONAL 1080 DESKTOP PICTURE, AND IPHOTOS, i use word, powerpoint and thats about it for the imac as well as web browsing and gaming, ANY COMPUTER CAN DO THESE THINGS, BUT NOW THE IMAC CANT USE ITS FULL DISPLAY? MIGHT AS WELL SHRINK IT BACK TO DAMNED 1024:720 IF YOUR GONNA HAVE A NVIDIA 9400 GEFORCE BULLSH** PLUGGED IN AND INTEGRATED LIKE A VIRUS SO U CANT PULLL THE CRAP OUT. Even casual users of the imac would probably get a ATI 4670 to keep their imac future proof, the main feature of the imac is the 1920:1080P DISPLAY ON THE 21.5 WHATS THE PURPOSE OF A NICE DISPLAY IF U CANT USER IT, REASONABLE CHEAP YET OK GPU GOES OKAY WITH BIG ASS HIGH DEF DEMANDING DISPLAY, NOT THIS BULLSH**!!?! FAN-FU*KING TASTIC APPLE, you really hit a home run, and shaved alot of money off unsuspecting customers, ripped them off, so that they can pay 300 extra bucks for a ****** 140 bucks ATI radeon GPU that barely cuts it anyways, Apple is known to use outdated crappy GPU's so their displays can be used by real mac computers such as mac pro's, i shouldn't have to be hitting a god damned dead end with upgrades.. And by the way, iCANT SELL THIS THING, IMA HAVE TO KEEP IT, THIS IS WHY PC' USERS SWITCH TO MACS, BECAUSE OF LOWER CUSTOMER SATISFACTION WITH THEIR PRODUCTS, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND, GET YOUR SH** OFF THE GROUND AND TOGETHER APPLE!!!!.

It seems there is no discussion with you... It's not Apple's fault your family bought a computer without the dedicated videocard. Go to ANY computer manufacturer, except those that make dedicated gaming machines, and you'll see they have integrated video on ALL their low end machines.

Guess what, Apple doesn't claim to be a Gaming PC maker. Their low end computers never claim to work with the latest games. Their high ends... Yea they do.

I'd just like to say you are sadly mistaken if you think that ANY computer with an integrated graphics card would be doing well playing COD4, Apple or not. And you happened to get the ONLY model without the dedicated GPU. The other 3 all would play COD4 just fine so stop your complaining and either do something about it or get over it.