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Jobsian
Dec 28, 2009, 05:35 PM
All current MBA owners...Ayeying, MacMod, Scottsd, etc:

1) What Rev do you currently have?
2) Will you automatically upgrade the MBA if we see a new one in January?
3) If not automatic, what is the minimum spec increase that will make you likely upgrade?

Jan 26 is getting closer and closer!



LinMac
Dec 28, 2009, 05:41 PM
1) Macbook Air 2,1
2) No.
3) 2.8Ghz, 8GB DDR3 ram, glass trackpad, etc.

I was fairly happy with my Macbook Air after getting my Rev. B, but it was still a bit laggy compared to my other computers. A RunCore SSD upgrade really fixed the lag problems and was a lot cheaper than replacing my Macbook Air.

I don't think I will be replacing my Macbook Air until they are more powerful than Late 2008 Macbook Pros.

jimboutilier
Dec 28, 2009, 08:38 PM
1) I have a RevC 2.13/2/128
2) I won't automaticly upgrade but I get a new Mac about once a year so we'll see what available near the end of 2010
3) Faster CPU/GPU, more RAM, more SSD space, longer battery life, more ports etc are all attractive to some extent but as long as my current machine serves my needs and is relatively new, I won't be looking at a new one.

SilentPanda
Dec 28, 2009, 08:41 PM
I have a Rev A 1.6. I don't plan on upgrading my laptop any time soon so long as it can get on the internet. I don't do much else with it. I would get rid of it for a touch screen tablet most likely though... my Mac Pro is my primary machine though.

Scottsdale
Dec 28, 2009, 09:09 PM
I have:

v 2,1 MBA
2.13 GHz
128 GB Runcore SSD
OS X Snow Leopard


If Apple releases an MBA with the following I will upgrade:

4 GB RAM OR/I prefer Two RAM Slots for up to 8 GB (I will gladly pay $1000 extra for 8 GB RAM)
Penryn Core 2 Duo SL9x00 or Arrandale without IGP
Nvidia or ATI Graphics


If the new MBA has only 2 GB RAM OR has only Intel integrated graphics, I will keep my current MBA. This would spell DISASTER for the MBA. This is what I fear most when I think about a real rev C MBA. What if Apple sticks with Intel's integrated graphics? It would be at least a 50% decline in graphics power from the 9400m. Nvidia is almost guaranteed not to be used UNLESS Apple sticks with the Penryn CPU. In fact, I don't even care about Arrandale at this point... I care far more for a nice GPU and 4 GB of RAM or more.

Also, if Apple changes the form factor and the result is a ULV CPU, I will pass on the MBA. I don't want to go backwards and lose CPU power to reduce the thickness to compete with the Adamo and all of the other ultraportables that are much thinner than the MBA.

I hope the new drive is 256 GB, but I think that I would swap over to the Runcore even if it's only half the size as I am used to the performance gains by it in my current MBA. Although a switch from LIF and Samsung over to an Intel drive would change my mind but I doubt Apple changes that.

I think we will be blown away by some new technology used in the next MBA. I don't know what it will be, but I suspect something not currently in any other Mac notebook...

Finally, I have to think that Apple has made its decision on how to move forward with the MBA. We don't know whether that means a new MBA in January or later in the year or an EOL of the once thinnest notebook in the world. I hate to think of trying to compete with the Dell Adamo XPS on thinness... I don't want that thin of an MBA nor one with the limited CPU power of a ULV CPU required in such an MBA. I don't think that Apple will make us wait until September/October of 2010 as others have suggested in the past three months, but I also don't think we're going to see a January update to the MBA. I am looking towards Spring for a rev C (v 3,1) MBA, with a new form factor, and something really amazing!

Happy New Year everyone!

MacModMachine
Dec 28, 2009, 09:27 PM
All current MBA owners...Ayeying, MacMod, Scottsd, etc:

1) What Rev do you currently have?
2) Will you automatically upgrade the MBA if we see a new one in January?
3) If not automatic, what is the minimum spec increase that will make you likely upgrade?

Jan 26 is getting closer and closer!

1) i have a rev C 1.86 with a 64GB Runcore
2) i will automatically upgrade...because its an addiction
3) not so much a spec, i would greatly welcome a micro sata internal connector and drop the lif bs, micro sata is more common and should be used.

i really want to see a decrease in heat and a larger ssd.

the usb deal does not bother me, i run a mac mini as my main machine and love it, it runs a 80gb intel ssd and 500gb in the optical bay.

i use the air for mobility as most, it works well.

kidwithdimples
Dec 28, 2009, 09:36 PM
How do you find out the "rev"?

MultiFinder17
Dec 28, 2009, 09:58 PM
1. Revision C 1.86GHz with a 120gig HDD.
2. Nah
3. 4gigs of RAM, SSD prices come down to sane levels, higher-resolution screen. 1440x900@13" would be amazingly nice.

Really, I see myself being happy with my Air for many years to come. I usually upgrade my primary machines one every 3-4 years or so, sometimes longer. Seeing as how the Air is so new, I can't see myself upgrading away from it anytime soon, unless the way I use my laptop changes drastically in the future.

Just as an example of my recent upgrades: I upgraded my main desktop back in March when the Nvidia minis came out from a G4/500DP, and upgraded to the Air a while back from a 12" PBG4/1.5, so I tend to fall behind the cutting edge a bit :) I generally upgrade whenever one of my primary machines (desktop or laptop) is unable to run the latest OS properly.

appleguy123
Dec 28, 2009, 11:39 PM
How do you find out the "rev"?

Rev=revision
The first revision was the original MacBook air. Rev B is the second update and C is the current one.

Chaszmyr
Dec 28, 2009, 11:42 PM
I have a Rev A MBA and I find the performance lacking (especially HDD performance, which I suppose I could replace without getting a new machine). As such, when they are updated I will definitely want a new one, but almost certainly won't buy one. This is simply because I hate using laptops, and generally use mine once a week or less.

tsubikiddo
Dec 28, 2009, 11:57 PM
All current MBA owners...Ayeying, MacMod, Scottsd, etc:

1) What Rev do you currently have?
2) Will you automatically upgrade the MBA if we see a new one in January?
3) If not automatic, what is the minimum spec increase that will make you likely upgrade?

Jan 26 is getting closer and closer!

1. Rev.2,1 (rev.B)
2. No, and rather unlikely
3. Battery endurance improvement, faster and cooler graphics

Knowing Fermi is once again delayed, simply plugging in some SFF i5 will not be enough
RAM is unlikely to increase as seen on the other MacBook offerings (2GB base minimum start)

Possibly (but wild guess):
the iSlate/MagicSlate tactile trackpad on new MBA?

ayeying
Dec 29, 2009, 12:48 AM
All current MBA owners...Ayeying, MacMod, Scottsd, etc:

1) What Rev do you currently have?
2) Will you automatically upgrade the MBA if we see a new one in January?
3) If not automatic, what is the minimum spec increase that will make you likely upgrade?

Jan 26 is getting closer and closer!

1) Unofficial High end Rev. C (2.13GHz)
2) No
3) It's not specs, I'm too poor right now cause another semester is coming up and I gotta save up for skool. Additionally, my next system will most likely be a MBP unless there's some killer specs (like a 3.0ghz cpu no underclock, 8gb ram, dual video cards.. yadada, unrealistic kind)

breakfast
Dec 29, 2009, 03:51 AM
I'm still new (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9009749#post9009749) to the Apple world, got myself a MBA for Christmas. Can someone please explain:1) I have a RevC 2.13/2/128 ...I have:

v 2,1 MBA
2.13 GHz ...1. Rev.2,1 (rev.B) ... Does v2,1 now mean Rev.B or Rev.C?

My MBA states "MacBookAir2,1", it runs on a 1.86GHz processor and comes with a 120GB HDD. What do I own, Rev.B or Rev.C?

Thanks!

JuhaN
Dec 29, 2009, 04:11 AM
1) I don't have an Air yet but I just sold my white MacBook... It's going to be a long wait until I buy the Air. I have to manage with my work laptop running XP until that.
2) YES!! =)
3) I'd like to have 4GB RAM, a little bigger SSD, glass trackpad and headphone jack (supporting audio input also) from the Pro... In addition to these I would be happy with just a little speed bump.

=)juha

tsubikiddo
Dec 29, 2009, 04:44 AM
I'm still new (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9009749#post9009749) to the Apple world, got myself a MBA for Christmas. Can someone please explain: Does v2,1 now mean Rev.B or Rev.C?

My MBA states "MacBookAir2,1", it runs on a 1.86GHz processor and comes with a 120GB HDD. What do I own, Rev.B or Rev.C?

Thanks!
Providing it's all stock configuration, the 1.86GHz + 120GB HDD is most likely to be a rev.C

The MacBookAir2,1 naming system came from Apple's official recognition of its machines, found in System Profiler

The rev.A/B/C naming system came from the Mac users community to distinguish their devices.
It dates back to the early days when 2nd hand Apple products still command a premium and hence there was a real need to know the exact spec and dates of the machine. Not the case nowadays.

When the 2.13GHz processor came out as a 'comparatively' minor refresh of the 2nd Gen MBAs, and didn't receive a new product identifying no., so it remains MacBookAir2,1 in System Profiler
The Mac user communities refer it to rev.C anyways.

jetoo
Dec 29, 2009, 05:26 AM
1) 1,1
2) No
3) New design if possible, even Dell or MSI couldn't do something and thin as the air. Except that, Apple will probably upgrade the CPU, memory, HDD..etc...
But that's normal. Price won't fall down.

breakfast
Dec 29, 2009, 05:35 AM
I'm still new (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9009749#post9009749) to the Apple world, got myself a MBA for Christmas. Can someone please explain: Does v2,1 now mean Rev.B or Rev.C?

My MBA states "MacBookAir2,1", it runs on a 1.86GHz processor and comes with a 120GB HDD. What do I own, Rev.B or Rev.C?

Thanks!Providing it's all stock configuration, the 1.86GHz + 120GB HDD is most likely to be a rev.C ...Yes, all items are stock. Device was purchased thru Apple....
When the 2.13GHz processor came out as a 'comparatively' minor refresh of the 2nd Gen MBAs, and didn't receive a new product identifying no., so it remains MacBookAir2,1 in System Profiler
The Mac user communities refer it to rev.C anyways.So why is it then that mine (1.86GHz) is a Rev.C model, when the 2.13GHz is called Rev.C as well?

:confused:

Thanks.

Arex
Dec 29, 2009, 05:51 AM
OK, so technically a MBPro user, not MBA but if the new one is good enough I would really like to change over to one.

So:

1. 2.53GHz MBPro Unibody.
2. If the hardware is good enough,yes.
3. 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD - would be fine with the same processor and graphics as they seem more than up to the job day to day.......

Really hope they do the whole glass trackpad thing........

tsubikiddo
Dec 29, 2009, 06:10 AM
Yes, all items are stock. Device was purchased thru Apple.So why is it then that mine (1.86GHz) is a Rev.C model, when the 2.13GHz is called Rev.C as well?

:confused:

Thanks.

the 1.86GHz was first released as the high-end MBA with SSD
upon the rev.C refresh, Apple dropped the 1.6GHz processor and replaced it with the 1.86GHz. The 2.13GHz took the original place of 1.86GHz

Given that you mentioned everything's stock and purchased from AAPL,
MBA 1.86GHz + HDD is taken as MBA rev.C

got it all figured out?;)

breakfast
Dec 29, 2009, 07:24 AM
the 1.86GHz was first released as the high-end MBA with SSD
upon the rev.C refresh, Apple dropped the 1.6GHz processor and replaced it with the 1.86GHz. The 2.13GHz took the original place of 1.86GHz

Given that you mentioned everything's stock and purchased from AAPL,
MBA 1.86GHz + HDD is taken as MBA rev.C

got it all figured out?;)Well, kind of. Thanks!

jimboutilier
Dec 29, 2009, 10:42 AM
I'm still new (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9009749#post9009749) to the Apple world, got myself a MBA for Christmas. Can someone please explain: Does v2,1 now mean Rev.B or Rev.C?

My MBA states "MacBookAir2,1", it runs on a 1.86GHz processor and comes with a 120GB HDD. What do I own, Rev.B or Rev.C?

Thanks!

From the Apple menu, About this MAC, More Info you can find your Model Identifier: e.g. MacBookAir2,1

RevA would be 1, rev B 2, and RevC2,1. Each rev had a basic version with slightly slower processor and HDD and a slightly faster processor and an SSD (although special orders could confuse that issue).

RevB was a major upgrade going from a custom version of an older processor to a mainstream version of a newer higher density lower power processor, going to much more powerful graphics, going from a PATA to a SATA drive interface etc. Major rework of the internals, completely new motherboard.

RevC was a much more minor upgrade - with the only readily apparent change being a processor speed bump. You got a newer generation of SSD and a different screen as well but no major redesign.

Who knows what the RevD will bring and when.

kellen
Dec 29, 2009, 11:10 AM
If there is 4 GB of ram, I will seriously consider it.

If it is just a bump, with slightly increased cpu, higher SSD and another USB or a firewire port, then that won't be enough.

But then the tablet throws a kink into it. Since I have the MP, I want a more portable solution than a 15MBP. Really wondering how they will do text input on the tablet. If it seems good enough, I may consider it.

zedsdead
Dec 29, 2009, 11:29 AM
I miss the Air, but I won't go back until the following is changed:

(1) Line Issue on the screen
(2) Much better hinges
(3) Glass Trackpad
(4) 4 gigs of RAM
(5) Better not go back to Intel graphics

coast1ja
Dec 29, 2009, 11:36 AM
Rev. B 1.86 128gb Stock SSD

I'm waiting for the next revision to decide whether or not to upgrade to a new MBA or a new runcore SSD. I would like to see 4gb of ram in the same/similar form factor. 128gb is large enough for my needs, so any bigger would just add cost. I would like to see the price stay low like it is now (not as high as it was at launch). I would also like to see more BTO options.

It seems that the ram is the biggest flaw of the current MBA, so I bet most of us would be happy with a 4gb option and keeping everything else the same. Maybe adding an external superdrive with blu-ray playback?

Scottsdale
Dec 29, 2009, 11:17 PM
From the Apple menu, About this MAC, More Info you can find your Model Identifier: e.g. MacBookAir2,1

RevA would be 1, rev B 2, and RevC2,1. Each rev had a basic version with slightly slower processor and HDD and a slightly faster processor and an SSD (although special orders could confuse that issue).

RevB was a major upgrade going from a custom version of an older processor to a mainstream version of a newer higher density lower power processor, going to much more powerful graphics, going from a PATA to a SATA drive interface etc. Major rework of the internals, completely new motherboard.

RevC was a much more minor upgrade - with the only readily apparent change being a processor speed bump. You got a newer generation of SSD and a different screen as well but no major redesign.

Who knows what the RevD will bring and when.

That's not true. Since October 2008, the model has been 2,1. What people here have called a rev C is still the same rev 2,1 that has had an extremely minor CPU bump not a revision to the MBA. The main basis of the machine has stayed the same since October 2008.

So January 2008 was rev 1,1. October 2008 was rev 2,1. When Apple bumped the CPU the next time, it stayed rev 2,1. The only reason there was a bump is Intel bumped the SL9x00 series chips. So Apple probably got the 2.13 for the same price as 1.86 was before.

I expect the next MBA to be a new form factor and a new chipset with a real rev C designation to 3,1.

Clix Pix
Dec 29, 2009, 11:25 PM
I love my first-gen Rev A MBA and in fact am typing on it right now. I knew what I was getting, knew the limitations and have worked comfortably within those limitations since I have other Macs to do the heavier lifting. If something new is announced in January or February, I would have to assess whether or not there would be enough value to me to purchase the newest version..... What would I like? Well.....more than just the one all-purpose port, for starters: c'mon, Apple, give us a FW port, too!!!!! 4 GB RAM would be nice......

Nugget
Dec 29, 2009, 11:53 PM
Not currently using a MacBook Air, although we've got two at work that I play around with from time to time. I'd be tempted by any bump that takes the max RAM to 4GB or higher.

Like kellen, though, I might also be happy with a tablet (depending on how one works) so I'm up in the air completely (no pun intended).

juro
Dec 30, 2009, 05:44 AM
I have the original 1.6 Rev. A with the 80gb HDD, and, to be honest, I am very happy with it until those times that I visit these forums and suddenly start thinking that maybe I could do with a faster, more powerful, lighter, and more multi-ported MBA, hahaha.

For me, I would have to wait and see what surprises Apple has in store for the new MBA.

The price point will definitely be a big factor in my decision making process.

sushi
Dec 30, 2009, 06:45 AM
I like my MBP15, but would definitely consider switching over to an MBA if the following were true:

- 256GB SSD
- 4GB RAM

RAM is needed for VMware and other apps I regularly use. A 256GB SSD for speed and internal capacity.

Scottsdale
Dec 30, 2009, 12:27 PM
I like my MBP15, but would definitely consider switching over to an MBA if the following were true:

- 256GB SSD
- 4GB RAM

RAM is needed for VMware and other apps I regularly use. A 256GB SSD for speed and internal capacity.

My bet is that the next MBA will NOT have a 256 GB SSD. However, it will have larger than 128 GB.

My best guess is 160 GB to 192 GB. Also, it might even be a dual drive system... Apple hasn't done that before, but the MBA seems to be a "test" platform for other Mac notebooks.

I do believe it will have 4 GB RAM. However, it could have Intel integrated graphics which will make the "power" of 4 GB of RAM or the space of a larger SSD useless to me. Intel integrated graphics will be the end of me buying MBAs.

More than anything, I want to know which direction Apple is going with graphics? Since October 2008, all we have seen is 9400m in Macs. With the loss of Nvidia GPUs/Chipsets with Arrandale CPUs, Apple will have to go dedicated graphics OR Intel integrated OR stick with Penryn CPUs for another revision. I don't know that Apple will spend the money for a dedicated ATI graphics card, and I don't know if the MBA can handle it?

The best case scenario is Arrandale without integrated graphics and a dedicated ATI solution. Second best scenario is a Penryn SL9x00 CPU with Nvidia 200m or even 9400m again. I can live with Penryn more than I could Arrandale with Intel integrated graphics. Intel graphics mean the end of the MBA's performance capabilities. The reason we all love the MBA is the 9400m.

I would like to hear some legitimate leaks about the MBA. We have heard there might be an MBP update in January, but there have been no leaks/rumors about the MBA for nearly six months. However, there were no leaks before the tiny bump last Summer.

theappleguy
Dec 30, 2009, 03:55 PM
Rev A (1.8GHz, HDD)
Not automatically, but I will most likely need to as my MacBook Air is dying - fans seem to run all the time, audio in and out are dead and in general it is now too slow for what I want to use it for.
I would expect 4GB RAM, the option of a 256GB SSD (or at least 160GB) and a general bump in processor, graphics and battery performance (does not have to be significant, but it certainly can't be a step backwards). A bump in screen resolution and a matte screen option would also be nice but would not stop me from buying a new Air.

Edit: Another thing that would be quite nice is if Apple offered the MacBook Air in 12-inch and 14-inch configurations. Don't see it happening, but being about to get a 14-inch model is another reason I would upgrade. :)

alphaod
Dec 31, 2009, 10:56 AM
Even though I'm not entirely satisfied with only 2GB of RAM (ie: I have 34MB free…including inactive and a 2GB swap size), unless the spec change is significant, I can't justify upgrading. I already have 8 computers (7 of which were purchasing in the last 6 months), so I can't see how I can fit another in.

If it has 4GB of RAM, uses a standard SATA connector (for the HDD), and offers a faster processor with an excellent cooling aparatus, I might consider it… but I'm more inclined to wait for the looming Apple slate (if is just approaching the horizon).

And if it has Intel graphics, I probably won't even bother… but if it does use Intel graphics, it better have more than 10 hours of battery life (in a real test, not the advert bullocks).

musicpenguy
Dec 31, 2009, 02:10 PM
I'm sure everyone here would love to upgrade to the latest greatest Macbook Air when it is released - but that is never an inexpensive proposition :)

So I think those with extra cash will upgrade and sell of the old ones but those tight on cash - probably not :)

halledise
Dec 31, 2009, 02:25 PM
All current MBA owners...Ayeying, MacMod, Scottsd, etc:

1) What Rev do you currently have?
2) Will you automatically upgrade the MBA if we see a new one in January?
3) If not automatic, what is the minimum spec increase that will make you likely upgrade?

Jan 26 is getting closer and closer!

1. Rev C with the 128gb SSD

2. No.
a. because there will be no new release of MBAir, as it would distract from the Tablet/iPhone/iPod release that it's supposed to be all about; and also Apple usually go end of cycle or beyond before releasing a new model
b. I like to get at least 1 full year out of my Macs

3. 4gb memory; tighter graphics; combined optical digital/audio line-in; longer battery life; run cooler (it's annoying when fan keeps kicking in and the thing gets warmer when only surfing 'net or typing words; 128gb ssd is more than sufficient for my needs

I'm sure when the Rev D comes out mid to late 2010 there will be a slight lift in processor speed/type, and additional memory, but then the heat issue will also need to be dealt with by then.

Other than that, the Rev C MacBook Air is the ideal and best machine for mobile computing - as long as you don't want to do video editing, Photoshopping etc - which I don't.

as a post script, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery but in reality the Adamo simply sucks just like windows does.
check out this comparison:

http://apcmag.com/dell-adamo-vs-apple-macbook-air.htm

Jobsian
Jan 1, 2010, 05:36 AM
Great link Halledice, and shows you just how amazing-looking the MBA is. The original Adamo isn't too bad either imo (certainly easier on the eye than the Adamo XPS imo). Underpowered though.


If you excuse the ignominy of answering my own question, I'm going to get a next revision MBA, if they announce one, almost certainly.

However, the following are reasons I would not buy one:

1) Intel IGP only - the only way I can even imagine buying one then is if there's some other compelling feature that is hitherto unknown. Intel graphics are still weak, even when comparing with Nvidia technology > 1 year old. That wouldn't be acceptable for me.

2) Subjectively ugly design - If I don't like the look of it, I wouldn't buy it regardless of specs. Shamelessly(!), this is a big factor for me loving the MBA. I can't imagine Apple failing here though, their track record for design eclipses every other major manufacturer as far as I'm aware (imo).

3) Tablet overlaps much of MBA function - I can't imagine this scenario however as, from rumors only, it appears that it's going to be more media-focused and have iphone-modified os. Almost unimaginable that it would have OSX. Also it appears, again from rumors RE hardware staffing, that it looks almost certain to have ARM processor and not an Intel Core. Which would probably put it out of the scope of power for what I'd want my next notebook to do.


That's it. Apart from these hopefully unlikely scenarios, I can't imagine not buying one if they do release it :)

FJIL
Jan 1, 2010, 09:16 AM
HI
I am an avid PC user and I'm now making the switch to Mac. I am startled by the Price relative to the spec. This however is not dampening my spirits too much as I'm waiting for an MBA revision of the following:

1)New to Mac
2)Will upgrade as soon as a new more comparatively powerful machine is released - 4GB ram is a cert for me and 2.5GHz processor - slightly larger storage options and slightly better connectivity would be nice.
3) Still waiting

A member of my family has a 1.6GHz 80GB Intel MBA which to be honest is really good. She is hung up on spec / model revs etc. Which is really pointless given what she and most people use them for. For a start people don't buy macs for games as there are none and unless your a designer etc. Then its really just a glorified netbook, hold on i'm talking myself out of buying one. Take the new Sony as an example, what a waist of time! 1500 for an Intel atom processor, might as well burn your money.

I need slightly more processing power and storage than the current MBA due to work related use and the MBP 13 looks good but I'm going the full distance with an iMac so want ultra portability with respectable power so Dell Adamo XPS (thinnest laptop on market - 4gb ram - 256gb ssd) so Apple get your finger out of your **** and keep up with the market as you do have the best products!

All the best for the New Year to all that read this.

Scottsdale
Jan 1, 2010, 06:33 PM
HI
I am an avid PC user and I'm now making the switch to Mac. I am startled by the Price relative to the spec. This however is not dampening my spirits too much as I'm waiting for an MBA revision of the following:

1)New to Mac
2)Will upgrade as soon as a new more comparatively powerful machine is released - 4GB ram is a cert for me and 2.5GHz processor - slightly larger storage options and slightly better connectivity would be nice.
3) Still waiting

A member of my family has a 1.6GHz 80GB Intel MBA which to be honest is really good. She is hung up on spec / model revs etc. Which is really pointless given what she and most people use them for. For a start people don't buy macs for games as there are none and unless your a designer etc. Then its really just a glorified netbook, hold on i'm talking myself out of buying one. Take the new Sony as an example, what a waist of time! 1500 for an Intel atom processor, might as well burn your money.

I need slightly more processing power and storage than the current MBA due to work related use and the MBP 13 looks good but I'm going the full distance with an iMac so want ultra portability with respectable power so Dell Adamo XPS (thinnest laptop on market - 4gb ram - 256gb ssd) so Apple get your finger out of your **** and keep up with the market as you do have the best products!

All the best for the New Year to all that read this.

Would you be happy with an Arrandale CPU at 2.1 GHz with two physical cores, four virtual cores and a "Turbo" feature boosting it to 2.8 GHz when only needing one core? Just a question... not saying that's what Apple will use in the next MBA.


However, the following are reasons I would not buy one:

1) Intel IGP only - the only way I can even imagine buying one then is if there's some other compelling feature that is hitherto unknown. Intel graphics are still weak, even when comparing with Nvidia technology > 1 year old. That wouldn't be acceptable for me.

2) Subjectively ugly design - If I don't like the look of it, I wouldn't buy it regardless of specs. Shamelessly(!), this is a big factor for me loving the MBA. I can't imagine Apple failing here though, their track record for design eclipses every other major manufacturer as far as I'm aware (imo).

3) Tablet overlaps much of MBA function - I can't imagine this scenario however as, from rumors only, it appears that it's going to be more media-focused and have iphone-modified os. Almost unimaginable that it would have OSX. Also it appears, again from rumors RE hardware staffing, that it looks almost certain to have ARM processor and not an Intel Core. Which would probably put it out of the scope of power for what I'd want my next notebook to do.



Quite frankly, I am terrified that Apple will stick the MBA buyers with an Intel IGP which will eliminate the desire to buy an MBA in the first place. I say it's a 30% chance we get Intel IGP and we all use our current MBAs for the next five years.

Going back to the first point, I would gladly stick with the Penryn 2.13 GHz rather than get stuck with an Intel IGP. I say 30% chance we get Penryn with an Nvidia GPU.

ATI, now I am guessing this would be the real winner with a 30% chance of a dedicated solution by ATI.

Finally, a 10% chance that Apple axes the MBA (or even worse leaves it as is for another two years like it did with the Mac mini) and we're all stuck using a "Magic Board"* instead of a computer.

* Magic Board = iSlate, Magic Slate, iTablet, MacTablet, MacBook Tablet, MacPad, MagicPad, iPod Tablet, iPod Slate, or whatever the hell else it has been called.

happyslayer
Jan 2, 2010, 12:03 AM
RevB - 1.86GHz
Probably not since I just got a RunCore SSD yesterday.
4Gigs of Ram, non-Intel graphics, longer batter life.

I think an upgrade in January is unlikely. Other than RAM what could the even upgrade at the moment. From what I can see online, there isn't a bigger 1.8" 5mm SSD in existence. 128 GB seems to be as big is it gets. (Anybody know of a bigger one?) There currently isn't a faster Intel CPU either... And why would Apple go with slower CPU unless battery life is the big push. As for the RAM, for what I use the Air for, 2 gigs has proven to be just fine. The only time I see a slow down is bringing up Windows 7 in Parallels5.

I am guessing a tablet-type device is more likely than an Air upgrade...

For now, I am happy.

Just my opinion...

iBookG4user
Jan 2, 2010, 12:09 AM
1) Rev C
2) No
3) Quad Core processor, minimum of 4GB (preferably 8GB of RAM) and hopefully a matte screen option. (I know I'm probably dreaming there, but I absolutely will not upgrade to a glassy screen if they decide to put one in. Which I should hope they don't, as that is more unnecessary weight.)

Once I get an actually working Runcore SSD, I'll be reasonably happy with my Air. Although I'm heavily considering returning this SSD too, as the Air is completely freezing (i.e. requiring a hard reboot) far too often after the latest one.

MacModMachine
Jan 2, 2010, 07:20 AM
My bet is that the next MBA will NOT have a 256 GB SSD. However, it will have larger than 128 GB.

My best guess is 160 GB to 192 GB. Also, it might even be a dual drive system... Apple hasn't done that before, but the MBA seems to be a "test" platform for other Mac notebooks.

I do believe it will have 4 GB RAM. However, it could have Intel integrated graphics which will make the "power" of 4 GB of RAM or the space of a larger SSD useless to me. Intel integrated graphics will be the end of me buying MBAs.

More than anything, I want to know which direction Apple is going with graphics? Since October 2008, all we have seen is 9400m in Macs. With the loss of Nvidia GPUs/Chipsets with Arrandale CPUs, Apple will have to go dedicated graphics OR Intel integrated OR stick with Penryn CPUs for another revision. I don't know that Apple will spend the money for a dedicated ATI graphics card, and I don't know if the MBA can handle it?

The best case scenario is Arrandale without integrated graphics and a dedicated ATI solution. Second best scenario is a Penryn SL9x00 CPU with Nvidia 200m or even 9400m again. I can live with Penryn more than I could Arrandale with Intel integrated graphics. Intel graphics mean the end of the MBA's performance capabilities. The reason we all love the MBA is the 9400m.

I would like to hear some legitimate leaks about the MBA. We have heard there might be an MBP update in January, but there have been no leaks/rumors about the MBA for nearly six months. However, there were no leaks before the tiny bump last Summer.


i agree with you here,

256gb ssd's are not there yet for this drive size, which has been stated by runcore.


i would like to think apple will keep a dedicated graphics card for the air, maybe something custom made, who knows.

i highly doubt apple will go to intel graphics, they designed snow leopard to run on accelerated graphics cards and CUDA based technology, why put a intel graphics card in there?

wireless charging would be cool, larger battery also, not much larger but a extra hour or so would do for most.

speaker quality could be improved also....i wouldn't hate that.

tbear1
Jan 2, 2010, 08:28 AM
OK, so technically a MBPro user, not MBA but if the new one is good enough I would really like to change over to one.

So:

1. 2.53GHz MBPro Unibody.
2. If the hardware is good enough,yes.
3. 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD - would be fine with the same processor and graphics as they seem more than up to the job day to day.......

Really hope they do the whole glass trackpad thing........

This is sort of where I am at. I would like to move over to a MBA if they improve the hinge durability and have similar performance to the current MBP's. I do not need 4GB of RAM or a big hard drive though.

camboy1999
Jan 2, 2010, 08:59 AM
What happens in January?:confused:

couto27
Jan 2, 2010, 11:18 AM
1. just bought 2x used macbook air rev A for $600 each in exelent condition
2. no
3. im looking for the tablet release.

the only upgrade i will do in current air rev A is a runcore 128gb, when the prices drop a little.