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Jan 3, 2010, 07:33 PM
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The 2010 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) kicks off this week and analysts are expecting (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ces-show-to-focus-on-mobility-connectivity-2010-01-03?link=kiosk) the predominant themes to be connectivity and mobility. Mobile devices such as new Android devices and tablet computers are expected to be a big focus. Meanwhile, outside of CES, Google and Apple are both expected to make announcements regarding their future plans this month.

The launch of the Google Nexus One phone is planned (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/30/google-nexus-one-appears-set-to-launch-january-5th/) for January 5th, while Apple is rumored (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/30/apple-january-26th-event-confirmed-by-internal-source-focus-on-mobility-space/) to be announcing their tablet device on/around January 26th.

For our part, MacRumors will be attending CES for the first time this year. In the past our focus has been Macworld Expo which has tended to run concurrently with CES. This year, however, Apple withdrew from Macworld which resulted in it being rescheduled into February. We'll be focusing on any relevant Apple-related announcements including new Intel chips, ARM-related technology, notable 3rd party Tablets and more. CES 2010 runs (http://www.cesweb.org/) from January 7th - 10th.

Article Link: Consumer Electronics Show 2010 (CES) Kicks Off this Week (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/03/consumer-electronics-show-2010-ces-kicks-off-this-week/)



kennycheng93
Jan 3, 2010, 07:37 PM
New MBP coming soon?

melchior
Jan 3, 2010, 07:38 PM
New MBP coming soon?

no

thegoldenmackid
Jan 3, 2010, 07:39 PM
no

Wrong. Wrong Venue, but I'd say they are coming. In other news, I'll be there...

Frosties
Jan 3, 2010, 07:43 PM
New MBP coming soon?

no

Yes. Wrong Venue. In other news, I'll be there...

Yes it will come soon. Apple will be a joke if they don't use the CES presented Arrandale.

Eidorian
Jan 3, 2010, 07:45 PM
I just want new hardware. Computex might be much more interesting with what AMD is going to be offering.

Westmere has been in the table to months now so it's nothing that surprising.

zedsdead
Jan 3, 2010, 07:47 PM
I'm looking forward to some new Canon AVCHD cameras.

Frosties
Jan 3, 2010, 07:51 PM
There was talk about a replacement for the Nikon D90 coming soon perhaps presented at CES but so far no whispers has come of that yet.

ImpostorOak
Jan 3, 2010, 07:58 PM
Yes it will come soon. Apple will be a joke if they don't use the CES presented Arrandale.

It depends on what "soon" means. This month? I'd say almost definitely. In the next week? I'd say doubtful.

What will be really interesting is to see what Apple does about the graphics. Will they only introduce Arrandale into the models that already have discreet graphics cards? Or will they extend discreet cards to all Pro models (all PowerBooks had discreet chips iirc)? The other option, which I don't see happening, is Apple putting Arrandale in the whole MBP line and leaving the 13" model with only the graphics on the chip. I'm hoping they just put out a 13" model with a discreet card and let people fall back on the onboard graphics when they want to save battery life.

melchior
Jan 3, 2010, 07:59 PM
Yes it will come soon. Apple will be a joke if they don't use the CES presented Arrandale.

they won't be a joke, because they're not attending.

fun173
Jan 3, 2010, 08:01 PM
I want to see the new android stuff and the tablet computers. Android has really impressed me so far.

Frosties
Jan 3, 2010, 08:03 PM
they won't be a joke, because they're not attending.
They still sell computers, do they not?

Airforcekid
Jan 3, 2010, 08:08 PM
Cant wait to see more on the Boxee box and Atom type technology!

csdibiase
Jan 3, 2010, 08:14 PM
Being that the rumors about the January 26th event are focused on the tablet and mobility, Apple is likely to silently update the MacBook Pro on some Tuesday between then and now.

Then again Apple might see the transition to Arrendale as a big enough deal to sit on and mention as part of their press event. I'm personally hoping the refresh the macbook pro line ahead of their event as I don't want to wait that much longer to buy a new machine :)

Clix Pix
Jan 3, 2010, 08:24 PM
I bought my first Mac in late 2005 and in January of 2006 attended my first (and now probably only) MacWorld. Well, that was the one to be at, absolutely, with Apple's announcements of their brand-new iMacs and MacBook Pros sporting the then new to Apple intel chip! Wow, that was something.....

I've never been to a CES but always thought it unfortunate that it and MacWorld were timed so closely together that in some years they overlapped.....NOT a good situation!

Looking forward to what CES has to show us and what MacWorld has to show us....but of course most importantly am looking forward to January 26th to see what Apple is bringing us!!!

As for cameras and such, I've always looked to Photokina and also individual manufacturers' special announcements of new products so for me, CES isn't a big player in my mind when it comes to photography.

Warbrain
Jan 3, 2010, 08:27 PM
I have a pass to CES.

I'm not going.

Just got a new job and figured I could go in the future.

dagamer34
Jan 3, 2010, 08:29 PM
Sites keep reporting that there's going to be an Apple event on January 26th as if it's a fact. Is there any REAL proof that that's the day of announcement?
Proof of tablet (however solid it is) != proof of announcement!

In any case, Apple has to give journalists 1-2 week notice before announcing anything. We'll find out well before the 26th if it really is true.

Ramashalanka
Jan 3, 2010, 08:29 PM
We'll be focusing on any relevant Apple-related announcements including new Intel chips, ARM-related technology, notable 3rd party Tablets and more.

Hopefully we'll get some info on NVIDIA's GE Force 300 fermi cards for the Mac Pro, too.

melchior
Jan 3, 2010, 08:33 PM
Sites keep reporting that there's going to be an Apple event on January 26th as if it's a fact. Is there any REAL proof that that's the day of announcement?
Proof of tablet (however solid it is) != proof of announcement!

In any case, Apple has to give journalists 1-2 week notice before announcing anything. We'll find out well before the 26th if it really is true.

a number of reliable sources have indicated that there is an event booked for the 26th. this is of course not proof of tablet-magic-slate, it could be the fabled arrandale mbp with apple making a fanfare about moving back to "advanced intel graphics that will blow nvidia out of the water" ;-)

and there is no need for apple to give journalists 1-2 weeks notice, they have done it on less before.

Dr.Pants
Jan 3, 2010, 08:34 PM
Hopefully Intel unveils its new lines of processors, known as Gulftown. Mmmm... tasty 32nm manufacturing process.:D

Oh, and who can forget about Arrendale and Clarksdale :rolleyes:

EDIT - BTW, Macrumors, thanks for attending!

Ambrose Chapel
Jan 3, 2010, 08:36 PM
bring on the new crop of iPod/iPhone accessories!

ifjake
Jan 3, 2010, 08:37 PM
I couldn't care less about an Apple tablet computer (I dare you to make me care, Apple, I dare you). I'm just starting to not really like the whole "Apple events" thing they're into now. I'd prefer for them to join with some community, whether it be Macworld or CES or whatever (I love it when they go to NAB), than to go on their own cloud. I agree that they're doing software and hardware to a degree well above the competition, but for them to separate themselves just makes them seem more superfluously pretentious and needlessly exclusive.

jav6454
Jan 3, 2010, 08:52 PM
I just want new hardware. Computex might be much more interesting with what AMD is going to be offering.

Westmere has been in the table to months now so it's nothing that surprising.

How about Core i7 930 being released? According to many sources, it's due in Q1 2010. Intel hasn't been specific whether it'll be 45nm or 32nm as it's 6 core counter part, which by my predictions should make it into the Mac Pro.

Also, SATA 6 Gb/s please appear on more boards!

georgemann
Jan 3, 2010, 09:09 PM
Being that the rumors about the January 26th event are focused on the tablet and mobility, Apple is likely to silently update the MacBook Pro on some Tuesday between then and now.

Then again Apple might see the transition to Arrendale as a big enough deal to sit on and mention as part of their press event. I'm personally hoping the refresh the macbook pro line ahead of their event as I don't want to wait that much longer to buy a new machine :)

The January 26 event will be focused on iTablets/Slates (maybe some iPhone upgrades) and the big (one other thing) surprise will be the launch of Apple's Cloud System. There won't be room for anything else.

MacBook upgrades will either be silent or at another event.

iDisk
Jan 3, 2010, 09:17 PM
I love these types of trade-shows. The inspiration one can get from these is amazing, also not to mention the networking :) .... BUT AND IT'S A HUGE BUT :rolleyes: .... Last years CES brought to notable following:



OLED Tv's (The 2nd Best announcement by far)
The palm pre (2009's joke cell phone)
Pico Projectors (is an emerging technology that applies the use of a projector in a handheld device. Like the Nikon Coolpix S1000, which is very cool but is it really CES news worthy? If Nikon was more Apple like they could have launched it much better IMO)
Marvell (is an American producer of storage, communications and consumer semiconductor products.)
SheevaPlug ( This is just a PLUG COMPUTER...One of the first on the market BTW)
Dell Adamo
Minoru 3D Webcam (Very Cool webcam, which looks like WALL-E or Johnny 5 and takes a distant 3rd in best announcement)



The Biggest announcement at CES wasn't even at CES and that was Apple bowing out of MacWorld. Which should change its name. For decades when you heard MacWorld you instantly thought Apple. Now since the name of the show left, they should really think about starting new and changing the name of the convention.

I like the ideas of these shows as mentioned above but Apple gave a clear indication as to where these trade-shows are heading.

Apple will steal ALL the Thunder from both CES and Macworld (even-though MacWorld is slated in Feb)

On a side note if Apple focuses on the mobility space (As mentioned by Arns article). I think we should expect the following IF THERE IS AN ACTUAL EVENT (read below about apples product cycle):



Mobile Me/ iWork.com (beta)
Time Capsule
Some talk about iPhone and company numbers
The rumored "Tablet"



Also Apple addressed their Annual Product cycles.



The Holiday Season. Novemberish
The educational buying season. Late summer
iPods. October
iLife Development cycle. Usually March
iPhone. June
Apple updates the desktops and notebooks whenever there ready.

Phil Schiller even said "JANUARY" doesn't fit with any product cycle announcements.



iDisk


:apple:

SirOmega
Jan 3, 2010, 09:28 PM
While CES runs from the 7th-10th, press-only events should start Monday (4th). At least thats how it was when I had a press badge a few years ago at CES - we went to press events all weekend long and the show started on a Monday (this year and next year, new years gets in the way so they push it back to Thursday). I could go this year as a "regular" attendee (show floor only), but it seems so lame after you've been to all the press events and you can talk to the reps one on one without a whole lot of hassle.

triceretops
Jan 3, 2010, 09:33 PM
I got a new MBP a couple of weeks ago. Since I was upgrading an 8 year old PowerBook, I think I will happy with this purchase even if they come out with new ones.:)

georgemann
Jan 3, 2010, 09:44 PM
There was talk about a replacement for the Nikon D90 coming soon perhaps presented at CES but so far no whispers has come of that yet.

Hopefully both a D90 and a D700 replacement with both of them offering 1028p HD video. I have my suspicions though that Nikon is taking a cue from Apple and now only announcing the big ticket items at their own media events. The CES show will probably only see a few CoolPix announcements (maybe more cameras with projectors :rolleyes:).

http://nikondp.com/2010/01/the-next-nikon-upgrade-from-d700-to-d800/

-

La Porta
Jan 3, 2010, 10:09 PM
How about some Mac Pro updates sometime soon?

LagunaSol
Jan 3, 2010, 10:36 PM
I wonder if Microsoft will try a preemptive strike for press attention (v. Apple tablet rumors) with a demo of another make-believe tablet device that they may be thinking about creating at some future date yet to be determined. Maybe.

"Hey look everyone, we're making a new tablet too! Anyone? Anyone???" - Steve Ballmer

I hope it's chewy, like cake.

georgemann
Jan 3, 2010, 10:45 PM
I wonder if Microsoft will try a preemptive strike for press attention (v. Apple tablet rumors) with a demo of another make-believe tablet device that they may be thinking about creating at some future date yet to be determined. Maybe.

"Hey look everyone, we're making a new tablet too! Anyone? Anyone???" - Steve Ballmer

I hope it's chewy, like cake.

I don't think so, but Google could be planning to upstage both CES and Apple with a Google Tablet announcement on the 5th of January (tomorrow). A sub-$500 Tablet from Google would really upset the proverbial Apple cart.

sampro
Jan 3, 2010, 10:54 PM
I don't think so, but Google could be planning to upstage both CES and Apple with a Google Tablet announcement on the 5th of January (tomorrow). A sub-$500 Tablet from Google would really upset the proverbial Apple cart.

what do you mean jan 5th? its not until jan 26th:rolleyes:

anthonybsd
Jan 3, 2010, 10:58 PM
Hopefully both a D90 and a D700 replacement with both of them offering 1028p HD video. I have my suspicions though that Nikon is taking a cue from Apple and now only announcing the big ticket items at their own media events. The CES show will probably only see a few CoolPix announcements (maybe more cameras with projectors :rolleyes:).

http://nikondp.com/2010/01/the-next-nikon-upgrade-from-d700-to-d800/

-
Considering the fact that 1028p video doesn't exist, I doubt they'd offer it. I take it that blog you are quoting meant 1080p. Anyhow, Nikon and Canon dropped the ball on the whole thing. Most people who were tired of waiting for Red Scarlet purchased GH1 by now.

trekkie604
Jan 3, 2010, 11:18 PM
what do you mean jan 5th? its not until jan 26th:rolleyes:

reading comprehension problem? he means google could announce a tablet on or around the 5th during CES :rolleyes:

FightTheFuture
Jan 3, 2010, 11:27 PM
I don't think so, but Google could be planning to upstage both CES and Apple with a Google Tablet announcement on the 5th of January (tomorrow). A sub-$500 Tablet from Google would really upset the proverbial Apple cart.i bet they'll sell it on verizon, subsidized, and then two months later announce the 'real android-tablet'

adamw
Jan 4, 2010, 12:13 AM
It in unlikely that Apple will announce new products at or around the time of the CES show.

Many 3rd party developers of Apple related hardware and software will probably announce products at the CES show. I believe they are having an iPhone/Mac related area of the CES show for exhibitors.

Apple will use the rumored end of the month special press event to announce their plans and upcoming new products.

MattInOz
Jan 4, 2010, 12:31 AM
Being that the rumors about the January 26th event are focused on the tablet and mobility, Apple is likely to silently update the MacBook Pro on some Tuesday between then and now.

Then again Apple might see the transition to Arrendale as a big enough deal to sit on and mention as part of their press event. I'm personally hoping the refresh the macbook pro line ahead of their event as I don't want to wait that much longer to buy a new machine :)

Hehe Silently....
As in web site front page big splash, press release the tuesday after CES when the tech writers are having a much slower news week send the invites for the 26th at same time.

Sounds like a great way to Silently make a lot of Noise.

iphones4evry1
Jan 4, 2010, 12:42 AM
Whether Apple announces a tablet or not, tablets are coming...

At CES, a company called Freestyle already has a tablet and is talking to major manufacturers to market it through the same channels that netbooks are sold through.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10423606-92.html

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20100103/freescale-tablet-01-10-small.jpg

ChazUK
Jan 4, 2010, 12:55 AM
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I'm looking forward to the Nexus One announcement and want to see what the plans are for an E.U release.

iphones4evry1
Jan 4, 2010, 01:00 AM
I'm looking forward to the Nexus One announcement and want to see what the plans are for an E.U release.

Competition is a good thing.

I figure if the next iPhone does not come out until Summer 2010, then the better the Nexus One is, the better the next iPhone will be. Heck, we should all be wishing that the Nexus One is just as good as the current 3GS iPhone - it will push Apple to make the Summer 2010 iPhone significantly better than the 3GS.

melchior
Jan 4, 2010, 01:07 AM
Competition is a good thing.

I figure if the next iPhone does not come out until Summer 2010, then the better the Nexus One is, the better the next iPhone will be. Heck, we should all be wishing that the Nexus One is just as good as the current 3GS iPhone - it will push Apple to make the Summer 2010 iPhone significantly better than the 3GS.

while in principle you are correct, i don't think the reality is as we would wish it be. the nexus one is unlikely to be a big hit as an unlocked phone due to cost. additionally google does not have the marketing machine to push it to match iphone success, which is what would be required to scare apple into doing something worthwhile like providing flash and wide aperture lens.

finally, developments cycles are such that even if apple did want to react, it would not be until 2011.

heisetax
Jan 4, 2010, 01:22 AM
How about Core i7 930 being released? According to many sources, it's due in Q1 2010. Intel hasn't been specific whether it'll be 45nm or 32nm as it's 6 core counter part, which by my predictions should make it into the Mac Pro.

Also, SATA 6 Gb/s please appear on more boards!

The Intel Mac Pro needs SATA III, FW3200 & USB3. Seagate already has a 2 TB SATA III drive out. Even though Apple started FireWire they have been doing little to keep it around so we'll probably never see anything past FW800. The same Windows PC Motherboards that have SATA III on them also has USB3 on them. But Apple that has been given so much credit by some as being a leader in new technology really seems to trail in many if not most areas.

Both the single & dual processor Intel Mac Pros need to have a model that has a 3+ GHz speed. Remember that was one of the reasons that we were told that we left the PPC platform. To this day there are not many Mac models that exceed 3 GHz.

heisetax
Jan 4, 2010, 01:25 AM
How about some Mac Pro updates sometime soon?

Intel Mac Pros are updated every 12-18 months. Don't worry about it or expect it until after the 18 month time is over.

heisetax
Jan 4, 2010, 01:28 AM
reading comprehension problem? he means google could announce a tablet on or around the 5th during CES :rolleyes:

He actually said Google.

heisetax
Jan 4, 2010, 01:41 AM
I love these types of trade-shows. The inspiration one can get from these is amazing, also not to mention the networking :) .... BUT AND IT'S A HUGE BUT :rolleyes: .... Last years CES brought to notable following:



OLED Tv's (The 2nd Best announcement by far)
The palm pre (2009's joke cell phone)
Pico Projectors (is an emerging technology that applies the use of a projector in a handheld device. Like the Nikon Coolpix S1000, which is very cool but is it really CES news worthy? If Nikon was more Apple like they could have launched it much better IMO)
Marvell (is an American producer of storage, communications and consumer semiconductor products.)
SheevaPlug ( This is just a PLUG COMPUTER...One of the first on the market BTW)
Dell Adamo
Minoru 3D Webcam (Very Cool webcam, which looks like WALL-E or Johnny 5 and takes a distant 3rd in best announcement)



The Biggest announcement at CES wasn't even at CES and that was Apple bowing out of MacWorld. Which should change its name. For decades when you heard MacWorld you instantly thought Apple. Now since the name of the show left, they should really think about starting new and changing the name of the convention.

I like the ideas of these shows as mentioned above but Apple gave a clear indication as to where these trade-shows are heading.

Apple will steal ALL the Thunder from both CES and Macworld (even-though MacWorld is slated in Feb)

On a side note if Apple focuses on the mobility space (As mentioned by Arns article). I think we should expect the following IF THERE IS AN ACTUAL EVENT (read below about apples product cycle):



Mobile Me/ iWork.com (beta)
Time Capsule
Some talk about iPhone and company numbers
The rumored "Tablet"



Also Apple addressed their Annual Product cycles.



The Holiday Season. Novemberish
The educational buying season. Late summer
iPods. October
iLife Development cycle. Usually March
iPhone. June
Apple updates the desktops and notebooks whenever there ready.

Phil Schiller even said "JANUARY" doesn't fit with any product cycle announcements.



iDisk


:apple:

MacWorld Expo is about Macs. That doesn't require Apple to be there.

YoGramMamma
Jan 4, 2010, 01:50 AM
I'm pretty pumped about CES. Partially because I'm actually going to be in attendance for the first time myself... partially because its something to be pumped about in general.

hmm.. maybe I'll run into arn or someone.

ZorPrime
Jan 4, 2010, 01:50 AM
I got a new MBP a couple of weeks ago. Since I was upgrading an 8 year old PowerBook, I think I will happy with this purchase even if they come out with new ones.:)

I'm almost in the same boat as you. My 5 year old 17" PPC Powerbook is limping along; especially since I spilled large sprite on the thing a couple of weeks back... luckily the thing's fine except for the sticky keyboard. :o

I've been so out of the Mac laptop loop but I'm trying to hold out for as long as possible, quad-core MBP would be nice and one without integrated graphics. :) Looks like Apple's pushing back on Intel but we'll see... but either way, progress isn't a bad thing.

On a CES note, despite my wish list, is it me or is it rather BIG news that Apple is DELAYING Macworld??? I have a feeling Apple is may have something rather big up its sleeve to postpone MacWorld... maybe this is their way saying to the broader market... "Oh, We have: One More Thing." :cool:

DMann
Jan 4, 2010, 02:32 AM
I wonder if Microsoft will try a preemptive strike for press attention (v. Apple tablet rumors) with a demo of another make-believe tablet device that they may be thinking about creating at some future date yet to be determined. Maybe.

"Hey look everyone, we're making a new tablet too! Anyone? Anyone???" - Steve Ballmer

I hope it's chewy, like cake.

Brings back memories of the great, preemptive 'Surface' demo (big ass table, with more moving parts in it than an automated car wash) one month before the iPhone release.

Their CES tablet demo will consist of a prototype which is not yet capable of performing tasks shown on the concept video, (a la NATAL) but can displays e-books, is capable of squirting three pages to a friend, can play music through a headset, can access Wi-Fi, has some multi-touch features such as tap-to-zoom, swipe to flip pages, has an FM radio built in, and comes in brown or purple. (Yes, the casing will be chewy)

iphones4evry1
Jan 4, 2010, 02:39 AM
google does not have the marketing machine to push it to match iphone success, which is what would be required

Google has the largest marketing machine in the world if they really wanted to use it. The Internet. Google proliferates all throughout the internet, displaying billions of ads every day for customers. If Google put a simple "Learn about Google Nexus One Mobile, click here" ad on it's homepage and on all of it's search results pages, and news pages, then BILLIONS of eyes would view it EVERY day. Google ads also don't just appear on Google webpages - Google sells ads for third-party websites also. Whether you realize it or not, if Google really wanted to harness it, they have the largest marketing machine in the world; The Internet.

Apple's has something that Google does not have with the Nexus One: Apple's products can sell themselves. When a customer walks into an Apple store and demos an iPhone for the first time, the product sells itself. You can employ the world's best marketing team to design commercials and magazine ads for you, but if the customer walks into your showroom and your product is terrible, the customer is not going to buy it.

puckhead193
Jan 4, 2010, 02:47 AM
so what is intel planning to show off? i9s :p

updates are coming i smell them... :cool:

iphones4evry1
Jan 4, 2010, 02:51 AM
Also Apple addressed their Annual Product cycles.



The Holiday Season. Novemberish
The educational buying season. Late summer
iPods. October
iLife Development cycle. Usually March
iPhone. June
Apple updates the desktops and notebooks whenever there ready.

Phil Schiller even said "JANUARY" doesn't fit with any product cycle announcements.



Ahhh. But the Tablet is a whole new product segment. It needs a spot to fit in somewhere. :) :apple:

hiimamac
Jan 4, 2010, 03:32 AM
no biggie. But the article says Apple pulled out this year. Dont you mean they annouced last year they pulled out for this year?

Thanks.
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/03/consumer-electronics-show-2010-ces-kicks-off-this-week/)

The 2010 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) kicks off this week and analysts are expecting (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ces-show-to-focus-on-mobility-connectivity-2010-01-03?link=kiosk) the predominant themes to be connectivity and mobility. Mobile devices such as new Android devices and tablet computers are expected to be a big focus. Meanwhile, outside of CES, Google and Apple are both expected to make announcements regarding their future plans this month.

The launch of the Google Nexus One phone is planned (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/30/google-nexus-one-appears-set-to-launch-january-5th/) for January 5th, while Apple is rumored (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/30/apple-january-26th-event-confirmed-by-internal-source-focus-on-mobility-space/) to be announcing their tablet device on/around January 26th.

For our part, MacRumors will be attending CES for the first time this year. In the past our focus has been Macworld Expo which has tended to run concurrently with CES. This year, however, Apple withdrew from Macworld which resulted in it being rescheduled into February. We'll be focusing on any relevant Apple-related announcements including new Intel chips, ARM-related technology, notable 3rd party Tablets and more. CES 2010 runs (http://www.cesweb.org/) from January 7th - 10th.

Article Link: Consumer Electronics Show 2010 (CES) Kicks Off this Week (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/03/consumer-electronics-show-2010-ces-kicks-off-this-week/)

csimmons
Jan 4, 2010, 05:46 AM
Whether Apple announces a tablet or not, tablets are coming...

At CES, a company called Freestyle already has a tablet and is talking to major manufacturers to market it through the same channels that netbooks are sold through.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10423606-92.html

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20100103/freescale-tablet-01-10-small.jpg

So?

The difference between Apple's (maybe) forthcoming tablet and every other tablet device coming to market is CONTENT. Apple is the content king, with a hardware / software ecosystem other manufacturers are dying to duplicate. It was the same for the iPod, then for the iPhone, arguably for the AppleTV (though not as "successful as the iPod & iPhone, it's still the best selling device of it's kind), and it will be the same for the rumored tablet. 3rd party developers will flock to the Apple tablet just as they did to the iPhone, because that's where the money is.

As cool as Android may be for some people (after playing with several Android-based devices recently, I fail to see what the big deal is personally, since it really doesn't do anything better than the iPhone OS), I don't see it knocking Apple off of it's perch anytime soon. Nor does it have to.

MacSA
Jan 4, 2010, 05:46 AM
Wrong. Wrong Venue, but I'd say they are coming. In other news, I'll be there...

They seriously need updating, their £919 Pro Laptop has the same size hard drive as a £199 netbook :eek:

SactoGuy18
Jan 4, 2010, 06:25 AM
The difference between Apple's (maybe) forthcoming tablet and every other tablet device coming to market is CONTENT. Apple is the content king, with a hardware / software ecosystem other manufacturers are dying to duplicate. It was the same for the iPod, then for the iPhone, arguably for the AppleTV (though not as "successful as the iPod & iPhone, it's still the best selling device of it's kind), and it will be the same for the rumored tablet. 3rd party developers will flock to the Apple tablet just as they did to the iPhone, because that's where the money is.


In fact, the day Apple announces the "iSlate" will be the day they announce the replacement for iTunes with an all-new program that supports everything from the iPod shuffle to the "iSlate" through a singular program. This new program will roll out on the same day the "iSlate" officially reaches Apple Store locations.

Tha Professor
Jan 4, 2010, 06:35 AM
Oooh, How I love (mac)rumours... I wish you great stay at the CES!!

As of tablet: i really wonder what it is gonna be. I believe that an Apple product must make sense to majority of existing mac users. I use all my iPod, iPhone and MBP every single day.. and I bet they will fill in some kind of need that most of us will find a use for the slate... I could see it as a home-based portable device that would become centre of other devices around the house /with the ability to go on the road easily as well/ Apple is the only company that can pull it off...:apple::apple::apple:

talkingfuture
Jan 4, 2010, 06:49 AM
Must be a nervous few weeks for some of these manufacturers releasing tablets and not knowing what Apple have planned. I suppose they will hope to grab some users ASAP!

iDisk
Jan 4, 2010, 06:59 AM
MacWorld Expo is about Macs. That doesn't require Apple to be there.

The main reason why MacWorld was that big of a deal, was due to Apples presence and keynotes, also with new product introductions. Since Apple has left, its not that big of a deal.

If Apple does not have the "rumored" January 26th event, what will be at MacWorld that isn't at an Apple Store?

If Apple releases no new products until after MacWorld, what would be the BIG draw to seeing or going to MacWorld that an Apple Store doesn't already have, what's macworlds purpose? to talk about and see Macs that we already see on the website or at Apple stores?

Do you see my point?

Apple left and for good reason. Which was they were tired of having to do something WOW for a convention they've grow better then.

MacWorld should be called something else.

Ahhh. But the Tablet is a whole new product segment. It needs a spot to fit in somewhere. :) :apple:

True and if confirmed, the January 26th event would be a good slot for annual "TABLET" updates.

ChazUK
Jan 4, 2010, 07:09 AM
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Whether Apple announces a tablet or not, tablets are coming...

At CES, a company called Freestyle already has a tablet and is talking to major manufacturers to market it through the same channels that netbooks are sold through.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10423606-92.html

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20100103/freescale-tablet-01-10-small.jpg

So?

The difference between Apple's (maybe) forthcoming tablet and every other tablet device coming to market is CONTENT. Apple is the content king, with a hardware / software ecosystem other manufacturers are dying to duplicate. It was the same for the iPod, then for the iPhone, arguably for the AppleTV (though not as "successful as the iPod & iPhone, it's still the best selling device of it's kind), and it will be the same for the rumored tablet. 3rd party developers will flock to the Apple tablet just as they did to the iPhone, because that's where the money is.

As cool as Android may be for some people (after playing with several Android-based devices recently, I fail to see what the big deal is personally, since it really doesn't do anything better than the iPhone OS), I don't see it knocking Apple off of it's perch anytime soon. Nor does it have to.

The big deal with Android for me is the ability to easily multitask between apps. Last night i was streaming music on my Archos 5 via last.fm whilst using the twidroid twitter app and browsing the forums.

That's not to say any Apple tablet would not be able to multitask but the current devices using iPhone os do have a hugely restrictive limitation only being able to run one 3rd party app at a time.

lilskaterpunk
Jan 4, 2010, 08:37 AM
CES = Exciting :)

As for Jan 26th, come faster!

AidenShaw
Jan 4, 2010, 08:43 AM
True and if confirmed, the January 26th event would be a good slot for annual "TABLET" updates.

Perhaps there would be a better time than one month after the end of the holiday buying season to introduce new consumer toys.

Note that at CES many "concepts" and protos are announced - often there's a disclaimer "available in summer" or "fall". Even though Intel has announced some CPUs there, at times the volume shipments are several weeks or months away.

In many ways, CES is a preview of what will be out for the next holiday season.

puffnstuff
Jan 4, 2010, 09:04 AM
They have to update the pro this month. They updated the macbook about two months ago and for the pro to sit this long without an update is unusual. For it to go without one until WWDC would be extra strange. :eek:

Wolfpup
Jan 4, 2010, 11:37 AM
Whoa, I guess I'd forgotten that Macworld isn't Macworld.

And here I was expecting Macbook Pro announcements this week. Throw Blu Ray in them finally and upgrade to a faster Nvidia GPU and I might bite.

iDisk
Jan 4, 2010, 11:59 AM
Perhaps there would be a better time than one month after the end of the holiday buying season to introduce new consumer toys.

Note that at CES many "concepts" and protos are announced - often there's a disclaimer "available in summer" or "fall". Even though Intel has announced some CPUs there, at times the volume shipments are several weeks or months away.

In many ways, CES is a preview of what will be out for the next holiday season.

Well put, I never looked at it that way.

I think a Apple version "Tablet" should fall under the the iPod events (September/October). If it's suppose to play games, movies, music, and show us elegant e-books/magazines/newspapers. That sounds more like the proper stage to announce such a device.

Though maybe they'll announce it sooner (like they did with the iPhone in 2007) so the FCC doesn't announce it for them. :)

Eidorian
Jan 4, 2010, 12:08 PM
Perhaps there would be a better time than one month after the end of the holiday buying season to introduce new consumer toys.

Note that at CES many "concepts" and protos are announced - often there's a disclaimer "available in summer" or "fall". Even though Intel has announced some CPUs there, at times the volume shipments are several weeks or months away.

In many ways, CES is a preview of what will be out for the next holiday season.I try to stick to buying hardware in May and then later on in October. May since you get the prodcuts from CES and October for Computex.

I've really taken a liking to Lenovo's Thinkpad Edge and it's AMD based.

Cameront9
Jan 4, 2010, 04:21 PM
I'm almost in the same boat as you. My 5 year old 17" PPC Powerbook is limping along; especially since I spilled large sprite on the thing a couple of weeks back... luckily the thing's fine except for the sticky keyboard. :o

I've been so out of the Mac laptop loop but I'm trying to hold out for as long as possible, quad-core MBP would be nice and one without integrated graphics. :) Looks like Apple's pushing back on Intel but we'll see... but either way, progress isn't a bad thing.

On a CES note, despite my wish list, is it me or is it rather BIG news that Apple is DELAYING Macworld??? I have a feeling Apple is may have something rather big up its sleeve to postpone MacWorld... maybe this is their way saying to the broader market... "Oh, We have: One More Thing." :cool:

Apple didn't delay MacWorld. MacWorld is an independent Tradeshow that Apple took part in for a number of years. They decided it wasn't worth the time/money/effort, so they backed out after last year. Macworld was then moved to February so as to not clash with CES, which was always a problem.

I just got a MBP for Christmas to replace my aging 4.5 year old PPC Powerbook. 3.06 Ghz, 500GB HDD, 8GB RAM. The thing is so damn fast it's amazing to me. I won't regret it if they announce an update in the next few weeks.

Wolfpup
Jan 5, 2010, 01:33 AM
Yikes, I sure would, especially given both in terms of Intel's schedule, and Apple's, we would normally expect an update this month.

Anyway, it feels really weird Apple pulled out-I'm still used to there being TWO Macworlds per year, and now there are basically none :(

thesmoth
Jan 5, 2010, 03:34 AM
Must be a nervous few weeks for some of these manufacturers releasing tablets and not knowing what Apple have planned. I suppose they will hope to grab some users ASAP!

A flat touch screen tablet is useless if it's just running windows or a basic version of linux that isn't really designed for it. The only reason why the apple tablet COULD be successful would be based on some new software designed strictly for it, with a new interface that no one else has thought of yet (similar to how apple brought about multitouch).

I'm more interested in productivity and work from this tablet. I have to read through tons of PDF documents (scientific publications) and I find reading them on my mbp is a pain in the ass and so I just print them all. If this tablet was easy on the eyes and good for reading pdf files (doubt it with the small screen size) and allowed me to highlight and organize/flip between PDF files easily, then it would be fantastic.

Wolfpup
Jan 5, 2010, 04:33 AM
I'm only intersted in it if it's running real OS X (hopefully on x86, meaning Atom presumably). It's fine if it has a "tablet" interface that can be toggled back and fourth between the regular interface, but I (probably) don't have any use for another Mobile OS X device. The iPod doesn't cut it for even basic PDA functions for what I need it for, let alone something more advanced.

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