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Max(IT)
Feb 9, 2010, 02:12 PM
Hey guys,

Here is my week 5 iMac

i dunno if my eyes are playing tricks (been looking at it for past few hours) on me so i could use someone else opinion if i have a yellow tinge problem or not

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/545/dsc0120ys.jpg

i took this with a nikon d90

and when i open the image in photoshop and i use the eyedropper tool .. and if i pick a spot at the middle of the grey bar (right hand) i get the RGB of 131/133/141 and if i move down in the same line to the middle of the bottom grey bar i get the RGB of 131/131/130 ...

so if i look at it that way i have the yellow tinge thing but then i dunno if it could be my cam so that is why the image is lil bit off

what do you guys think

Now I know why there is people changing 3 or 4 iMacs ...
In my opinion you have a perfectly acceptable screen.



Max(IT)
Feb 9, 2010, 02:35 PM
Here's a tip - don't look in these threads anymore. No one can say your screen is yellow based on the pictures you took. Many factors come in - so don't worry about it. If YOU don't see the yellow, who cares??!?

I absolutely agree with you.
I think that a lot of people is having the yellow tinge problem simply because .... They are told to have.

I saw some very bad displays, but also a lot of acceptable iMac changed because "they Are not perfect but my money was".

TennisandMusic
Feb 9, 2010, 02:41 PM
I absolutely agree with you.
I think that a lot of people is having the yellow tinge problem simply because .... They are told to have.

I saw some very bad displays, but also a lot of acceptable iMac changed because "they Are not perfect but my money was".

I am sorry but I think you are simply wrong here.

Many people have compared all of their iMac's to past Apple machines, as well as other standard monitors. ONLY the iMac exhibits these problems. I had two iMac's before I had had enough myself. The screens were truly horrendous. The screen in the image above isn't as bad as mine were, but there is no way anyone should consider that "acceptable" for 2000 dollars. I think many Apple fans are completely losing sight of what 2000 dollars can actually buy you outside of Mac land. OSX is NOT worth that much unless you need it for dev work (which I do). Not enough to be steadily pilfered by Apple. Seriously, if you don't have a screen that can stand up to the myriad of even cheap TN panels out there, for your own sake, don't keep it!

The rest of you, stop defending Apple and blaming the users! Who WANTS a bad machine? I think we have passed the cusp of insanity...

jcb815
Feb 9, 2010, 03:49 PM
OSX is NOT worth that much unless you need it for dev work (which I do). Not enough to be steadily pilfered by Apple.

I think this guy only uses his mac to play tennis video games and make music.. :rolleyes:

Or maybe just listen to music....

jcb815
Feb 9, 2010, 04:06 PM
I absolutely agree with you.
I think that a lot of people is having the yellow tinge problem simply because .... They are told to have.

I saw some very bad displays, but also a lot of acceptable iMac changed because "they Are not perfect but my money was".

Oh and I agree with him, who agrees with that other guy. I've seen plenty of people posting on here asking "Do you think my iMac has the yellow tinge?" and many of those screens look perfect to me, yet many people say "Oh yes, it has the yellow tinge! Return it!"

I wonder how many perfectly fine iMac's have been returned. Haha. Sure the number of iMac's with the yellow tinge was large but I'm sure there were still a lot of iMac's that were perfectly fine and were returned.

If the screen looks good to you, then it must be good. Everyone perceives the world in a different way. :)

Bitwise
Feb 9, 2010, 04:31 PM
I got this problem too. But mine buzzes anywhere below about 40 percent brightness. And it is related to the cpu somehow. Scroll down or up in safari and it goes away. Once you stop it returns. It's the same with opening up programs. Buzz goes away when loading up new programs and comes back when it's done loading.

I learned today that the buzzing starts when the display is asleep and the iMac is hot. When the display comes back on the buzzing will stop, but if I reduce the brightness then it'll start buzzing again. When the display goes back to sleep the buzzing will continue. Once the iMac starts to cool down the buzzing will become less frequent until it eventually stops. It's really loud in my case. I can hear it from the other room sometimes.

MMM.PWR
Feb 9, 2010, 07:14 PM
It's really loud in my case. I can hear it from the other room sometimes.
Wow, mine is never that loud. It is loudest at the lowest brightness setting and even then while I do hear it, the house must be completely quiet.

Bitwise
Feb 9, 2010, 09:26 PM
Wow, mine is never that loud. It is loudest at the lowest brightness setting and even then while I do hear it, the house must be completely quiet.

It can only be heard from far away when the iMac is really hot. Otherwise I can only hear it when I'm sitting at the computer. Maybe I just have really good hearing :p

Kabir8
Feb 9, 2010, 10:01 PM
@TennisandMusic

I agree with your points completely.

I am buying a 27" iMac i7 with one major selling point being the SCREEN.

I love the screen, and I hope when I order mine, I will not have problems.
However, after 3 weeks of research, I will conduct tests to ensure that my screen is PERFECT, because that is what I expect from a purchase like this.

For $2,500 or so you can go a very long way with choosing a PC.
But I converted to Mac computers 5 years ago, I am a photographer and filmmaker and I need to be able to edit 1080p footage with utter smoothness, and I especially need a screen with accurate color.

I have had the same PowerMac G5 and Sony LCD monitor for 5 years with no problems besides a lone dead pixel from Day 1. I can live with that, but if my color is not even throughout the screen, then my purchase is in vain.

I can stay positive, but I will never "settle" for an "acceptable" machine. No way.

MMM.PWR
Feb 9, 2010, 10:11 PM
@TennisandMusic

I agree with your points completely.

I am buying a 27" iMac i7 with one major selling point being the SCREEN.

I love the screen, and I hope when I order mine, I will not have problems.
However, after 3 weeks of research, I will conduct tests to ensure that my screen is PERFECT, because that is what I expect from a purchase like this.

For $2,500 or so you can go a very long way with choosing a PC.
But I converted to Mac computers 5 years ago, I am a photographer and filmmaker and I need to be able to edit 1080p footage with utter smoothness, and I especially need a screen with accurate color.

I have had the same PowerMac G5 and Sony LCD monitor for 5 years with no problems besides a lone dead pixel from Day 1. I can live with that, but if my color is not even throughout the screen, then my purchase is in vain.

I can stay positive, but I will never "settle" for an "acceptable" machine. No way.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but right now, it is going to be very difficult to find a 100% perfect screen. I'm on my 4th and best so far and even then, still have slight yellow (although much more evenly distributed, not noticeable), and a small backlight bleed.

You say you'll never settle - then this is not the right time to pick one up bud. (I do photography too and used to think like you)

mtnDewFTW
Feb 10, 2010, 02:08 AM
I've had mine since Christmas, problem-free.

nickv1980
Feb 10, 2010, 02:34 AM
Hey

Thanks, was just my thought some minutes ago :) What i can tell there is no issues that i can see or hear.

Thanks again :) I guess i will not think about it anymore. All other products i have brought have i never been looked this much as a screen to find errors.

So lets just say, in my eyes and in the ones that have seen it of my family, the screen and Mac is perfect :)

Thanks for your time.

From Kehaan.

yeah your pics don't do it justice :rolleyes:

heres mine anyway.....

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3602/upshotvjtqznmq.png

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3329/upshotps3tzuxc.png

Kehaan
Feb 10, 2010, 04:01 AM
yeah your pics don't do it justice :rolleyes:

heres mine anyway.....

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3602/upshotvjtqznmq.png

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3329/upshotps3tzuxc.png
Hello :)

It is not possible to see if you have the yellow tingie when you have taken a screenshot. You have to take a picture of the screen with a camera.

From Kehaan

Max(IT)
Feb 10, 2010, 06:26 AM
I am sorry but I think you are simply wrong here.

Many people have compared all of their iMac's to past Apple machines, as well as other standard monitors. ONLY the iMac exhibits these problems. I had two iMac's before I had had enough myself. The screens were truly horrendous. The screen in the image above isn't as bad as mine were, but there is no way anyone should consider that "acceptable" for 2000 dollars. I think many Apple fans are completely losing sight of what 2000 dollars can actually buy you outside of Mac land. OSX is NOT worth that much unless you need it for dev work (which I do). Not enough to be steadily pilfered by Apple. Seriously, if you don't have a screen that can stand up to the myriad of even cheap TN panels out there, for your own sake, don't keep it!

The rest of you, stop defending Apple and blaming the users! Who WANTS a bad machine? I think we have passed the cusp of insanity...

As I said before, THERE ARE actually faulty iMacs with bad display, I saw several on various forums. But there are iMacs with acceptable display returned just because people like you keep trying to convince other users that their Macs is faulty

Max(IT)
Feb 10, 2010, 06:33 AM
@TennisandMusic

I agree with your points completely.

I am buying a 27" iMac i7 with one major selling point being the SCREEN.

I love the screen, and I hope when I order mine, I will not have problems.
However, after 3 weeks of research, I will conduct tests to ensure that my screen is PERFECT, because that is what I expect from a purchase like this.

For $2,500 or so you can go a very long way with choosing a PC.
But I converted to Mac computers 5 years ago, I am a photographer and filmmaker and I need to be able to edit 1080p footage with utter smoothness, and I especially need a screen with accurate color.

I have had the same PowerMac G5 and Sony LCD monitor for 5 years with no problems besides a lone dead pixel from Day 1. I can live with that, but if my color is not even throughout the screen, then my purchase is in vain.

I can stay positive, but I will never "settle" for an "acceptable" machine. No way.

There is not such a thing like a PERFECT screen, in my experience. I sell Eizo monitors that costs like €2500 and have some gradients. And I sell to professional people. Some Are acceptable and some absolutely not.
But no One is perfect

SaSaSushi
Feb 10, 2010, 09:07 AM
There is not such a thing like a PERFECT screen, in my experience. I sell Eizo monitors that costs like €2500 and have some gradients. And I sell to professional people. Some Are acceptable and some absolutely not.
But no One is perfect

Thank you, I've been repeating this like a mantra in here. The yellow tinge is unacceptable. However, there is no such thing as a perfect display with absolute color uniformity, corner to corner. It does not exist. Not on Macs, and not on high end professional displays either.

This is my third iMac and all three had some level of gradient.

Max(IT)
Feb 10, 2010, 09:19 AM
Thank you, I've been repeating this like a mantra in here. The yellow tinge is unacceptable. However, there is no such thing as a perfect display with absolute color uniformity, corner to corner. It does not exist. Not on Macs, and not on high end professional displays either.

This is my third iMac and all three had some level of gradient.

Correct, especially with such a large dimension

lexvo
Feb 10, 2010, 10:57 AM
Of course no screen is perfect. Some have more yellow tinge, some have less.

The difficulty however is: what is acceptable? It is very subjective and also depends on the intended use.

Max(IT)
Feb 10, 2010, 11:02 AM
Of course no screen is perfect. Some have more yellow tinge, some have less.

The difficulty however is: what is acceptable? It is very subjective and also depends on the intended use.

I agree with you, but reading all the threads in this forum there REALLY are people returning iMacs simply because they were told to.

SamTheeGeek
Feb 10, 2010, 11:44 AM
Here's a tip - don't look in these threads anymore. No one can say your screen is yellow based on the pictures you took. Many factors come in - so don't worry about it. If YOU don't see the yellow, who cares??!?


Right on ! I Agree

i really hope i get mine yellow free , here in my country we dont have apple official store only distributors and resellers.

fingers crossed when i order my 2 imac 27" i7

Kavik
Feb 10, 2010, 11:46 AM
I received my Week 6 i7 two days ago which has a slight yellow tinge in the lower right corner as well as a top-to-bottom stripe on the left hand side. There is also a subtle horizonal shadow running along the bottom of the display that looks like this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9078743&postcount=973).

As I mentioned in another thread, I might be able to live with it in the long run, but wanted to note that I do not have anything like this on either my 15" MacBook Pro screen or 24" LED Display that I am getting ready to sell.

MMM.PWR
Feb 10, 2010, 01:33 PM
I received my Week 6 i7 two days ago which has a slight yellow tinge in the lower right corner as well as a top-to-bottom stripe on the left hand side. There is also a subtle horizonal shadow running along the bottom of the display that looks like this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9078743&postcount=973).

As I mentioned in another thread, I might be able to live with it in the long run, but wanted to note that I do not have anything like this on either my 15" MacBook Pro screen or 24" LED Display that I am getting ready to sell.

How come you're selling the ACD? How much? :D

abacus01
Feb 10, 2010, 06:51 PM
as well as the one I returned...its very faint..and I really only notice it when Im booting into the mac...otherwise dont really see it....mine has slight yellow to it..it think the mac white is yellowish by nature...your photo doesnt look bad..if the mac has no dead pixels, isnt making weird noises...and seems quiet..i'd keep it..if it bothers you wait a couple of months..then all the prob will be fixed and see if they will swap it or repair it...im keeping mine..as I dont want them to open the screen up...im getting use to it.

Kabir8
Feb 10, 2010, 09:47 PM
There is not such a thing like a PERFECT screen, in my experience. I sell Eizo monitors that costs like €2500 and have some gradients. And I sell to professional people. Some Are acceptable and some absolutely not.
But no One is perfect

Ok, maybe there is not a perfect screen on any apple computer and consumer Displays.

But if you buy a $25,000 Cinetel Monitor for Color Grading Films, I guarantee you you will make an exception for this monitor because perfection, I believe, does exist if you know how to find it.

I've been dealing with a dead pixel (blue) in the center of my screen for 5 years but I have learned to ignore it. I strive for perfection, but I am also a realist.

What I was trying to say is, for the price, and my eye, it better look pretty damn near flawless, and from what I have seen in the stores, if you get a proper display, the color/luminosity is more than acceptable for editing film/video/photos.

MMM.PWR
Feb 10, 2010, 10:00 PM
What I was trying to say is, for the price, and my eye, it better look pretty damn near flawless, and from what I have seen in the stores, if you get a proper display, the color/luminosity is more than acceptable for editing film/video/photos.

The problem with iMacs in the store is that the lights are so bright that there is just no way you will see the yellow. You probably will not hear the buzz either - and you certainly won't see any backlight bleeding.

To keep you updated, I called Apple today and I'm getting a refund and waiting for the summer. I wish you luck.. even if the displays are fixed permanently in the next month or two, I'd rather wait for the next revision - not to mention back to school deals..

Kabir8
Feb 11, 2010, 12:37 AM
The problem with iMacs in the store is that the lights are so bright that there is just no way you will see the yellow. You probably will not hear the buzz either - and you certainly won't see any backlight bleeding.



Honestly, it's a factor I didn't consider, but that could very well be washing everything out.

The whole situation has become off-putting yet so tempting at the same time.
My gut tells me not to dive in just yet.

At least not until Apple releases an official statement to acknowledge a defect in this product. (Don't know if that leaked internal memo is supposed to suffice as their official take on things)

JimKirk
Feb 11, 2010, 09:16 AM
My 4th replacement is a week 6 and it too has a yellow tint and other problems.

1) Dead Pixels
2) Yellow Tint
3) Horrible Backlight Bleed
4) Dark horizontal band running through bottom of display

iSee
Feb 11, 2010, 09:37 AM
^^^^

Looks like they sent you the week 53 that I returned in January ;)

Are you going to try the screen repair route?

MMM.PWR
Feb 11, 2010, 10:09 AM
Wow, that is completely unacceptable, the screen bleed on that one is worse than the one I had. If you need an iMac right now then I would go the repair route - if you exchange for a new one chances are it will be the same. Unless week 7+ has the "fixed/normal" screens.

Very sad. I am SURE there are plenty like these out there, what are the chances only this forum gets the bad ones? Yet Apple reps say "maybe one out of XXXX"

abacus01
Feb 11, 2010, 10:28 AM
I'd prob just get a refund from apple. You will never be happy. I saw your pics. I dont see horrible yellow tint on your first pic at all. As a matter of fact it looks pretty good to me. You wrote the following:

My 4th replacement is a week 6 and it too has a yellow tint and other problems.

1) Dead Pixels
2) Yellow Tint
3) Horrible Backlight Bleed
4) Dark horizontal band running through bottom of display

Dead pixels...I dont have it, or if I do they are tiny.
Yellow tint - mine very slight. If you go to the display configuration you can cool it down somewhat..but what you get is a bluish white tone. Take your pick, it will never be pure white. Both my last two have a faint black horizontal band towards the bottom you see it on a pure light screen. Since i had two diff machines, I believe they all have it. It doesnt appear once your in the OS, only mostly on booting into the mac. Mine has some yellow backlight bleed. I only see it when Im booting into bootcamp win 7. before operating system comes up I see light shining thru the black. I've tried to play mass effect 2 on it and its kind of horrible, the lighting. The blacks arent black, it has the LCD effect of light coming thru, thats the nature of this monitor. My point is that these imac's will not be 100 per cent. If you've gone thru 4, your not going to ever be happy is my point.

09iMac=Fail
Feb 11, 2010, 10:38 AM
I'd prob just get a refund from apple. You will never be happy. I saw your pics. I dont see horrible yellow tint on your first pic at all. As a matter of fact it looks pretty good to me. You wrote the following:

My 4th replacement is a week 6 and it too has a yellow tint and other problems.

1) Dead Pixels
2) Yellow Tint
3) Horrible Backlight Bleed
4) Dark horizontal band running through bottom of display

Dead pixels...I dont have it, or if I do they are tiny.
Yellow tint - mine very slight. If you go to the display configuration you can cool it down somewhat..but what you get is a bluish white tone. Take your pick, it will never be pure white. Both my last two have a faint black horizontal band towards the bottom you see it on a pure light screen. Since i had two diff machines, I believe they all have it. It doesnt appear once your in the OS, only mostly on booting into the mac. Mine has some yellow backlight bleed. I only see it when Im booting into bootcamp win 7. before operating system comes up I see light shining thru the black. I've tried to play mass effect 2 on it and its kind of horrible, the lighting. The blacks arent black, it has the LCD effect of light coming thru, thats the nature of this monitor. My point is that these imac's will not be 100 per cent. If you've gone thru 4, your not going to ever be happy is my point.

That back lighting is terrible! Also, the tinge isn't bad, but it is obvious in the last bottom grey band.

JimKirk
Feb 11, 2010, 10:49 AM
Obviously it is booted into the OS.

Also the yellow is much more noticeable in person.

Iphone does not capture all of it.

marco12345
Feb 11, 2010, 11:26 AM
I'd prob just get a refund from apple. You will never be happy. I saw your pics. I dont see horrible yellow tint on your first pic at all. As a matter of fact it looks pretty good to me. You wrote the following:

My 4th replacement is a week 6 and it too has a yellow tint and other problems.

1) Dead Pixels
2) Yellow Tint
3) Horrible Backlight Bleed
4) Dark horizontal band running through bottom of display

Dead pixels...I dont have it, or if I do they are tiny.
Yellow tint - mine very slight. If you go to the display configuration you can cool it down somewhat..but what you get is a bluish white tone. Take your pick, it will never be pure white. Both my last two have a faint black horizontal band towards the bottom you see it on a pure light screen. Since i had two diff machines, I believe they all have it. It doesnt appear once your in the OS, only mostly on booting into the mac. Mine has some yellow backlight bleed. I only see it when Im booting into bootcamp win 7. before operating system comes up I see light shining thru the black. I've tried to play mass effect 2 on it and its kind of horrible, the lighting. The blacks arent black, it has the LCD effect of light coming thru, thats the nature of this monitor. My point is that these imac's will not be 100 per cent. If you've gone thru 4, your not going to ever be happy is my point.

I wouldn't let anyone tell me what to do with my money, why not exchange 4,5,6 time? I finally got what I was hopping for with compensation....I finally got it on my 6th Imac.....Jimkirk, exchange them as many times as you wish, to finally get what you want!

JimKirk
Feb 11, 2010, 12:46 PM
I am contemplating a return, but they have already given me significant discounts on this one as well as a free memory upgrade so I would hate to lose that.

I want Imac but would like one that is problem free.

I do not think my standards are high or too much to ask.

1) Uniform Screen free of yellow.
2) Acceptable backlight (Not like my photo).

That is not too much to ask.

I haven't got one machine yet to meet those standards.

IndustrialSpace
Feb 11, 2010, 01:35 PM
My 4th replacement is a week 6 and it too has a yellow tint and other problems.

1) Dead Pixels
2) Yellow Tint
3) Horrible Backlight Bleed
4) Dark horizontal band running through bottom of display

Week 6 and STILL Yellow tint problems? :confused:

That screen shot looks bad. You can see all the yellow blotches...

Sounds like Apple hasn't fixed things in their pipeline yet. As much as they deny and dance around this, I thoguht of recent they made strides to correct this. Sales reps have even stated that the 2010 units will have been yellow tint free. Obviously not the case.

I'd return it for a full refund and wait until there are reports of defect free screens.

This is really unbelievable. Apple quality is NEVER coming back. It's a real shame.


Is Apple even listening?

IndustrialSpace
Feb 11, 2010, 01:39 PM
Wow, that is completely unacceptable, the screen bleed on that one is worse than the one I had. If you need an iMac right now then I would go the repair route - if you exchange for a new one chances are it will be the same. Unless week 7+ has the "fixed/normal" screens.

Very sad. I am SURE there are plenty like these out there, what are the chances only this forum gets the bad ones? Yet Apple reps say "maybe one out of XXXX"

Apple has been deceiving their customers about this issue. We've had many conflicting reports as to whether this problem has been addressed and if a solution even exists. Apple CSRs tell you its all sorts of things and many have outright denied they had any reports of it.

One has to question how honest and ethical Apple is as a company, based upon how they've handled these screen problems. Flickering, yellow tint, buzzing, etc...

iMJustAGuy
Feb 11, 2010, 01:45 PM
JUST PICKED MINE UP (27 i5) FROM THE (200-mile-away) APPLE STORE LAST NIGHT AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS!!!!

*NO Buzzing (Even when turning brightness down all the way)
*NO Flickering
*NO YELLOW TINGE!!!!!
*NO Dead Pixels
*NO iSight issues!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sorry I don't know how to tell what week I have.

it will be the same. Unless week 7+ has the "fixed/normal" screens.

JimKirk
Feb 11, 2010, 06:53 PM
I will not just live with the defects apple wants you to put up with so good riddens.

Maybe I'll get a rev b or a new core i7 mbp instead.

SaSaSushi
Feb 11, 2010, 07:10 PM
I will not just live with the defects apple wants you to put up with so good riddens.

If Apple wanted me to put up with any defects I hadn't heard about it. I guess someone screwed up and sent me a problem-free machine.

Best of luck to you.

Maybe I'll get a rev b or a new core i7 mbp instead.

In your case, I actually think Apple might be hoping not. :p

Kabir8
Feb 12, 2010, 03:32 AM
JUST PICKED MINE UP (27 i5) FROM THE (200-mile-away) APPLE STORE LAST NIGHT AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS!!!!

*NO Buzzing (Even when turning brightness down all the way)
*NO Flickering
*NO YELLOW TINGE!!!!!
*NO Dead Pixels
*NO iSight issues!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sorry I don't know how to tell what week I have.

Click the Apple.
Click About this Mac.
Click the More Info... Button.
Second to last line in the list is your serial number.
Plug that number into the link below.

http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php

Let us know what you've received.

SaSaSushi
Feb 12, 2010, 07:23 AM
Click the Apple.
Click About this Mac.
Click the More Info... Button.
Second to last line in the list is your serial number.
Plug that number into the link below.

http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php

Let us know what you've received.

I believe he reported in his other thread already that it is a week 5 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=863534).

swee5420
Feb 12, 2010, 09:04 AM
week 6 i5, i have the screen just like JIM

1)Screen - Stuck/Dead pixels - NO
2)Screen - Flickering screen, with brief blackouts - NOT SO FAR
3)Screen - Yellow smudge at the bottom/elsewhere - BOTTOM LEFT CORNER, NOT MUCH THOUGH
4)Screen - LED backlight bleeding through in corners when screen is dark/black - YES, VERY BAD
5)Screen - High pitch whine from screen at max brightness after 30 minutes; also after turning down brightness by 30% - NO
6)Screen - Dust or fingerprints trapped behind the monitor glass - NO
7)iSight - Dead pixels - NO
8)iMac as external monitor function not working - HAVE NOT TESTED
9)Noisy HDD - clicking or whirring, rumbling and whining - NOT SO FAR
10)Constantly running fans at high volume - NOT SO FAR
11)Intermittent hiss from external speakers hooked up - NO
12)Frequent beachballs, despite not many programs running - NO
13)Slow boot up - NO
14)Random self generated restarts while using Firefox - NOT SO FAR
15)Airport problems - NOT SO FAR
16)Bad USB ports - NO
17)Bluetooth not functioning- NO

abacus01
Feb 12, 2010, 09:24 AM
what your describing is exactly what i have...everything except some backlight bleed in corners when your booting into bootcamp...please explain when black..and if thats so ...show me a black screen when your in your mac os x. The led uses light to display image when there is no image such as booting into another os like win 7 before it comes up...you will see a little light shine thru...I would like to see a pic of your black screen or jimkirks black screen in an operating system and show me the light bleed. This is the nature of LCD and LED, depending on the angle you view it in...you'll see some light shining thru. The yellowing depending on how bad it is is your call on a replacement. I still dont understand the concept of waiting until apple has sorted out all the problems for sure until ordering another machine? I have applecare, and two years down the road i can ask for another machine...thats the point..I see everyone getting another machine and then complaining here. Call apple tech support, tell them you want to speak to an apple customer relationships specialist. Then tell them your story and see what they can do. They told me two weeks ago it would take them at least 5 weeks till they sorted out all the problems. Post what you find out, im curious, meanwhile i'll enjoy my not so perfect imac..lol.

swee5420
Feb 12, 2010, 09:40 AM
this is the pic, i don't have a proper cam so this is from my iphone.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47456128@N07/4351566358/

as for the yellow, it is just a small one in the left bottom corner.

I can accept the yellow but not the backlight bleed.

TMRaven
Feb 12, 2010, 09:53 AM
My week 7 i7 is yellow free.

faxao
Feb 13, 2010, 02:43 AM
this is the pic, i don't have a proper cam so this is from my iphone.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47456128@N07/4351566358/

as for the yellow, it is just a small one in the left bottom corner.

I can accept the yellow but not the backlight bleed.

Wow....that seems to be very bad indeed.......:eek:

iamthedudeman
Feb 13, 2010, 03:00 AM
I'd prob just get a refund from apple. You will never be happy. I saw your pics. I dont see horrible yellow tint on your first pic at all. As a matter of fact it looks pretty good to me. You wrote the following:

My 4th replacement is a week 6 and it too has a yellow tint and other problems.

1) Dead Pixels
2) Yellow Tint
3) Horrible Backlight Bleed
4) Dark horizontal band running through bottom of display

Dead pixels...I dont have it, or if I do they are tiny.
Yellow tint - mine very slight. If you go to the display configuration you can cool it down somewhat..but what you get is a bluish white tone. Take your pick, it will never be pure white. Both my last two have a faint black horizontal band towards the bottom you see it on a pure light screen. Since i had two diff machines, I believe they all have it. It doesnt appear once your in the OS, only mostly on booting into the mac. Mine has some yellow backlight bleed. I only see it when Im booting into bootcamp win 7. before operating system comes up I see light shining thru the black. I've tried to play mass effect 2 on it and its kind of horrible, the lighting. The blacks arent black, it has the LCD effect of light coming thru, thats the nature of this monitor. My point is that these imac's will not be 100 per cent. If you've gone thru 4, your not going to ever be happy is my point.

I Agree 110%. What is wrong with you people? Seriously. Why exchange out your Mac 4 times or more?, wait until they have all the problems sorted out and then exchange then. Exchanging them without all the problems being fixed expecting a different outcome is not very smart. Sorry. :confused:

archipellago
Feb 13, 2010, 03:25 AM
Thank you, I've been repeating this like a mantra in here. The yellow tinge is unacceptable. However, there is no such thing as a perfect display with absolute color uniformity, corner to corner. It does not exist. Not on Macs, and not on high end professional displays either.

This is my third iMac and all three had some level of gradient.

so just to be clear.... you are happy to confirm that Apple is breaking advertising laws with the iMac screen claims then?

from website..


IPS technology.

The iMac display is designed to look great from almost any angle. A technology called in-plane switching (IPS) makes this possible. Whether you’re sitting in front of the display or standing off to the side, you’ll get a perfect picture with superb colour consistency and no loss of detail.

archipellago
Feb 13, 2010, 03:34 AM
I Agree 110%. What is wrong with you people? Seriously. Why exchange out your Mac 4 times or more?, wait until they have all the problems sorted out and then exchange then. Exchanging them without all the problems being fixed expecting a different outcome is not very smart. Sorry. :confused:

eh..??

Apple haven't officially acknowledged the issue which means the won't officially announce a fix...if they are even looking at doing it.

so...

you'll never know if/when they are better in that sceanrio why not just kepp exchanging?

Max(IT)
Feb 13, 2010, 03:37 AM
so just to be clear.... you are happy to confirm that Apple is breaking advertising laws with the iMac screen claims then?

from website..


IPS technology.

The iMac display is designed to look great from almost any angle. A technology called in-plane switching (IPS) makes this possible. Whether you’re sitting in front of the display or standing off to the side, you’ll get a perfect picture with superb colour consistency and no loss of detail.

The advertisement is about the angle of view, but we all know: you Are keep fighting your personal war against Apple all over the forum ...

Max(IT)
Feb 13, 2010, 03:41 AM
eh..??

Apple haven't officially acknowledged the issue which means the won't officially announce a fix...if they are even looking at doing it.

so...

you'll never know if/when they are better in that sceanrio why not just kepp exchanging?

BS!
Apple is exchanging iMacs, they are arranging on-site screen replacement ... They are really trying to solve the problem. And, just in case you don't know, the panel is made by LG, not Apple.

archipellago
Feb 13, 2010, 03:50 AM
The advertisement is about the angle of view, but we all know: you Are keep fighting your personal war against Apple all over the forum ...


no its says perfect picture and color consistency from any angle which presumably includes 'straight on'

SaSaSushi (and others) have said that the perfect screen is not possible.

so..

clearly someone is wrong I was trying to work out who..

archipellago
Feb 13, 2010, 03:54 AM
BS!
Apple is exchanging iMacs, they are arranging on-site screen replacement ... They are really trying to solve the problem. And, just in case you don't know, the panel is made by LG, not Apple.

yes they are exchanging Macs and replacing screens but they haven't officially announced that there is a widespread problem, press release etc.

how are they trying to solve it. ?

The guy who had on site repairs now has a yellow tinge at the top and blue at the bottom.!!

people are receiving week 6 and 7 machines which are still yellow...

if Apple was trying to fix then surely they would stop sending out yellow or backlight bleeding screens ...FULL STOP.

shoddy way to do business and treat its customers..

bajee
Feb 13, 2010, 03:59 AM
BS!
Apple is exchanging iMacs, they are arranging on-site screen replacement ... They are really trying to solve the problem. And, just in case you don't know, the panel is made by LG, not Apple.

True, thing is we can play the blaming game all day. If its a perfect machine, people say its because Apple made both software and hardware.

If its not, people blame the manufacturers for the faulty device (example: Nvidia, LG). Kinda sucks, coz if it was a PC, we'll be seeing different opinions and reactions. People blame Microsoft most of the time, and not the manufacturer. Even though Microsoft was only responsible for the software side of things or probably just partly responsible.

Thing is, we consumers don't even need to know these things, we expect to have a top notch excellent machine if you're spending $1k-$2++ on a computer. Apple is the only one to blame, since we directly bought the machine to them. The fact that they chose LG, and not having it QA'd enough is enough to point all fingers to Apple. :D

In regard to the subject though, I saw an article here in macrumors that apple representative said they're fixing the issue (both flickering and the yellow tinge).

The title was about Apple declining there was a halt in production of iMacs, and the apple spokesperson reconfirm that they are fixing those 2 issues.
So I'm really glad Apple is doing something about it :)

Max(IT)
Feb 13, 2010, 05:18 AM
yes they are exchanging Macs and replacing screens but they haven't officially announced that there is a widespread problem, press release etc.


I know you would like Apple to fail, but they are not crazy.
They are trying to solve the problem, keep exchanging iMacs at customer's request ...
And they are loosing a lot of money in that process ...


The guy who had on site repairs now has a yellow tinge at the top and blue at the bottom.!!

only ONE guy .... not all of them

people are receiving week 6 and 7 machines which are still yellow...

and others received a perfect iMac ...


if Apple was trying to fix then surely they would stop sending out yellow or backlight bleeding screens ...FULL STOP.

shoddy way to do business and treat its customers..
you don't care about customers at all: you are just blaming Apple ...

archipellago
Feb 13, 2010, 05:31 AM
I know you would like Apple to fail, but they are not crazy.
They are trying to solve the problem, keep exchanging iMacs at customer's request ...
And they are loosing a lot of money in that process ...




only ONE guy .... not all of them



and others received a perfect iMac ...


you don't care about customers at all: you are just blaming Apple ...



wow, epic fail with that post..

1/ Exchanging Macs is not trying to fix the issue....its just a way to placate customers to the point where they get a 'mild yellow' screen and then can't be bothered to return the xth one.

2/ yes, one guy. I haven't seen anyone else post.

3/ Perfect isn't possible according to some. Some are better than others..... as are people's eyes and standards.

4/ Yes i am blaming Apple for being deceitful, duplicitous and for treating its; customers like idiots.

funlad
Feb 13, 2010, 05:44 AM
My week 6 machine arrived yesterday - real sexy bit of kit......

...except my screen has such a yellow tinge I could see it while on the initial white booting up screen.... along with 1 dead pixel!!!

Not happy, mostly coz I will have to wait an age assuming Apple will replace it with a new one.

Does anyone have experience of getting replacements for yellow tinge on models ordered online? Will Apple ship out a new one, and collect the old one at the same time as delivery, or how does it work?

spcdust
Feb 13, 2010, 06:47 AM
My week 6 machine arrived yesterday - real sexy bit of kit......

...except my screen has such a yellow tinge I could see it while on the initial white booting up screen.... along with 1 dead pixel!!!

Not happy, mostly coz I will have to wait an age assuming Apple will replace it with a new one.

Does anyone have experience of getting replacements for yellow tinge on models ordered online? Will Apple ship out a new one, and collect the old one at the same time as delivery, or how does it work?

Ask for an advance replacement - say that you are in the middle of some project and cannot afford to be without your computer and you also wish to ensure the integrity of your data therefore would feel happier having the knowledge that you retain your current one until the new one is delivered. Generally once the replacement is delivered you have ten days to return the original - they'll just issue you with an RMA (Returned Merchandise Authorisation) number and then UPS / FedEx will call you to arrange collection.

archipellago, you impress me with your dedication to talking BS - a poster who, by his own admission, owns absolutely no Apple products what so ever but is a prolific poster on an Apple forum spouting the same old scratched mantra - your life must be very fulfilling.

SaSaSushi
Feb 13, 2010, 06:49 AM
so just to be clear.... you are happy to confirm that Apple is breaking advertising laws with the iMac screen claims then?

from website..

IPS technology.

The iMac display is designed to look great from almost any angle. A technology called in-plane switching (IPS) makes this possible. Whether you’re sitting in front of the display or standing off to the side, you’ll get a perfect picture with superb colour consistency and no loss of detail.

Well, I'm not going to make excuses for Apple on this one, Archie. I suppose it depends on what they mean by 'perfect picture'. If you think that it means perfect color uniformity at every point on the panel then yes, it's false advertising and I suggest you sue them.

I'm sure Apple's lawyers will counter in court that this is not what they meant at all and I'm not sure you'd be able to retire on the settlement you are counting on but go for it.

There is no such thing as a consumer display with absolutely perfect color uniformity.

SaSaSushi
Feb 13, 2010, 06:55 AM
3/ Perfect isn't possible according to some. Some are better than others..... as are people's eyes and standards.

Yep, which is why some iMacs with non-yellow-tinged and very good quality (but not perfect) panels are undoubtedly being returned ad nauseum by unrealistic and hype-influenced individuals with a holy grail complex too.

This is not all those who are returning machines, but I'm sure a portion thereof and I have my suspicions about a specific few among us.

sleyeu
Feb 13, 2010, 08:06 AM
Hey i just got my quadcore i5 but i dont know where it was made and what week it is. I know i have come across a link to this website that tells you the mac's specs and production.

Also, this imac is flawless.

No yellow screen (checked on the website with no ambient light) no noisy hardrive and no buzz. It is great!

SaSaSushi
Feb 13, 2010, 08:11 AM
Hey i just got my quadcore i5 but i dont know where it was made and what week it is. I know i have come across a link to this website that tells you the mac's specs and production.

Also, this imac is flawless.

No yellow screen (checked on the website with no ambient light) no noisy hardrive and no buzz. It is great!

Glad to hear you are enjoying your new iMac. :)

This is the site (http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php) you are referring to I believe.

archipellago
Feb 13, 2010, 08:28 AM
Ask for an advance replacement - say that you are in the middle of some project and cannot afford to be without your computer and you also wish to ensure the integrity of your data therefore would feel happier having the knowledge that you retain your current one until the new one is delivered. Generally once the replacement is delivered you have ten days to return the original - they'll just issue you with an RMA (Returned Merchandise Authorisation) number and then UPS / FedEx will call you to arrange collection.

archipellago, you impress me with your dedication to talking BS - a poster who, by his own admission, owns absolutely no Apple products what so ever but is a prolific poster on an Apple forum spouting the same old scratched mantra - your life must be very fulfilling.


talking BS?

well you've not proven me wrong with anything yet and I won't be holding my breath...

no I don't own any Apple products at the moment but looking at Apple's current product line I have in the past owned one of nearly everything hardware wise in each category (Mac pro and MBA aside) even the mammoth flop that is ATV!

so I have vast experience of not only Apple products but Apple Uk's (general lack of) aftercare service and have even taken them to small claims court on a few occasions.

I also have vast experience of alternative products and companies, so I feel I can comment and help lots of people.

Checking the forum T&C's you don't need to own an Apple product to post here.

Not so much a fulfilling (or not) life just that after ditching Apple products I seem to have lots more spare time as I'm not constantly troubleshooting them or going back to Apple UK...

don't like it?

cool.. don't reply.

Max(IT)
Feb 13, 2010, 08:39 AM
Hey i just got my quadcore i5 but i dont know where it was made and what week it is. I know i have come across a link to this website that tells you the mac's specs and production.

Also, this imac is flawless.

No yellow screen (checked on the website with no ambient light) no noisy hardrive and no buzz. It is great!

It CAN'T BE ! You have a yellow tinge but cannot see it ....




I'm just kidding, but I can assure you that someone is think about that ;)

talking BS?

well you've not proven me wrong with anything yet and I won't be holding my breath...

no I don't own any Apple products at the moment but looking at Apple's current product line I have in the past owned one of nearly everything hardware wise in each category (Mac pro and MBA aside) even the mammoth flop that is ATV!

so I have vast experience of not only Apple products but Apple Uk's (general lack of) aftercare service and have even taken them to small claims court on a few occasions.

I also have vast experience of alternative products and companies, so I feel I can comment and help lots of people.

Checking the forum T&C's you don't need to own an Apple product to post here.

Not so much a fulfilling (or not) life just that after ditching Apple products I seem to have lots more spare time as I'm not constantly troubleshooting them or going back to Apple UK...

don't like it?

cool.. don't reply.

OMG, an "Anti-Apple Crusader" .... :rolleyes:

SaSaSushi
Feb 13, 2010, 08:56 AM
OMG, an "Anti-Apple Crusader" .... :rolleyes:

I could be wrong, Max, but I think Archipellago might actually wear that title proudly. I don't think you could come up with a more apt one. He is leading his own Jihad against the evil Apple Empire and noone is going to stand in his way. :p

Max(IT)
Feb 13, 2010, 09:29 AM
I could be wrong, Max, but I think Archipellago might actually wear that title proudly. I don't think you could come up with a more apt one. He is leading his own Jihad against the evil Apple Empire and noone is going to stand in his way. :p

He's definitely not alone in this forum ;)
I can't see myself going around Windows' forums just to "save people" :D

sleyeu
Feb 13, 2010, 10:38 AM
Glad to hear you are enjoying your new iMac. :)

This is the site (http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php) you are referring to I believe.

thanks for the site!

my imac is a week 49


hmm this goes against the usual "omg before weeks 3-6 are cursed"

im surpirsed!


and one more thing, my boot time is kinda, slow it takes like 10 seconds on the blue screen then like another 10 seconds on the white screen then the apple logo comes and then you wait a little more then the loading circle thing comes and then after a little more the imac goes to the homescreen and the dock comes like instantly. After that the imac is faaaaaaast!

TMRaven
Feb 13, 2010, 10:48 AM
Restart the mac osx hardrive under system preferences > startup disk.

sleyeu
Feb 13, 2010, 11:47 AM
Restart the mac osx hardrive under system preferences > startup disk.

wow thanks! it doesnt start with a blue screen anymore and there is a greater improvement in speed. i can confidently say its like 2x as fast!

any reason why?

avihappy
Feb 13, 2010, 12:13 PM
wow thanks! it doesnt start with a blue screen anymore and there is a greater improvement in speed. i can confidently say its like 2x as fast!

any reason why?

Because for some reason or another your iMac was trying to boot off another disk first. Since it couldn't find it, it was looking around for it for a bit before just giving up and boot off the internal HD.

By selecting it in startup items, you changed the boot order so that it looks to the internal HD first.

spcdust
Feb 13, 2010, 12:13 PM
wow thanks! it doesnt start with a blue screen anymore and there is a greater improvement in speed. i can confidently say its like 2x as fast!

any reason why?

For some reason some of the iMacs shipped without stipulating the start up disk i.e. OSX 10.6. You're computer took that extra time "searching" for startup disk to Boot from. It probably checked the Optical drive - "negative", checked the SD Card reader - "negative" - checked the internal HD - "oh there's the OS I'll Boot from that". All you've now done is just to tell it to go straight to the internal HD and specifically the OSX operating System. If you partitioned your HD and installed other OS, such as Windows 7 or Linux, then you could specify the default Startup disk / OS as you chose.

sleyeu
Feb 13, 2010, 02:54 PM
ahh good to know, however i do have an SD card in the slot.

also i tried to make a time machine back up on the SD Card but it wouldn't let me because its too small. (couldnt find a setting to reduce the backup size)

spcdust
Feb 13, 2010, 03:25 PM
ahh good to know, however i do have an SD card in the slot.

But with an Operating System on so obviously wouldn't have booted from that.

also i tried to make a time machine back up on the SD Card but it wouldn't let me because its too small. (couldnt find a setting to reduce the backup size)

Bit confused on this one - you're trying to do a Time Machine Back-up of your entire system onto an SD card?

sleyeu
Feb 13, 2010, 03:51 PM
no no no no no no no no, yes.

well like just the os and something i need like an app or something... so i dont have to put in the installation cd if i need to, even though i know nothing will happen because snow leopard wont get corrupted :)

mmomega
Feb 13, 2010, 04:39 PM
Chalk up another 27" with no problems. I just picked my core i5 up from the apple store yesterday and i've run all tests to check for yellow tinged and what not and the machine seem to be damn near perfect. The only problem I do have is that whn I plug in my secondary screen it is completely yellowed, weird.