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MacRumors
Jan 20, 2010, 02:36 PM
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Yesterday, we uncovered evidence (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/19/will-apples-tablet-actually-be-called-the-ipad-new-trademarks-filed-this-week/) that Apple has been pursuing trademarks for the name "iPad", with some filings occurring as recently as late last week. The move has obviously led to speculation that Apple may be planning to use that name for its tablet device rumored for introduction next week.
At the time, we noted that Apple had not pursued an "iPad" trademark in the United States, ostensibly due to existing claims on the name by Fujitsu for an electronic retail inventory device. While Fujitsu initially filed its trademark application for "iPad" in March 2003, the trademark has yet to be officially accepted, and was in fact classified by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) as "abandoned" in April 2009 after Fujitsu failed to respond to a request for additional information. In June 2009, Fujitsu applied to have the application revived and, after amendment, was published for public comment and opposition on September 1, 2009.
Gawker reports (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/19/will-apples-tablet-actually-be-called-the-ipad-new-trademarks-filed-this-week/) today on documents dug up (http://www.jesustablet.com/2010/01/jesus-tablets-real-namerevealed.html) by a new tablet-focused blog that show that Apple's lawyers have filed three requests (http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=76497338&pty=EXT) with the USPTO over the past few months asking for extensions to the allowed time for parties to oppose the trademark application filed by Fujitsu. In their most recent request, which has been granted, Apple's lawyers requested an extension of the opposition period to February 28, 2010.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2010/01/20/153247-apple_ipad_opposition.jpg
The reason for Apple's potential opposition is unknown, with speculation of course centering on its desire to publicly introduce its tablet device as the "iPad" before filing documents stating its case to the USPTO. While it is possible that Apple may simply object to Fujitsu's "iPad" trademark on the grounds of possible confusion with its similarity to Apple's "iPod" trademark, those circumstances do not necessarily offer an explanation as to why Apple has requested so many extensions to the opposition period rather than simply filing its opposition.
Article Link: More Hints at Apple's Desire to Hold 'iPad' Trademark for Tablet Device (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/20/more-hints-at-apples-desire-to-hold-ipad-trademark-for-tablet-device/)
MacsRgr8
Jan 20, 2010, 02:38 PM
iPad... iPod...
We need iPud, iPed and iPid next ;)
Feng Shui
Jan 20, 2010, 02:38 PM
iPad Slate ^^
miles01110
Jan 20, 2010, 02:38 PM
I don't even want to know what an "iPed" would be...
fun173
Jan 20, 2010, 02:39 PM
Its a smooth name but it would certainly be made fun of. Imagine seeing a commercial for an iPad. Lets call it the Macsipad! :)
NeuralControl
Jan 20, 2010, 02:39 PM
I really hope it's not iPad.
mogzieee
Jan 20, 2010, 02:40 PM
Why do people think it's going to be either iPad or iSlate.
Can't it be both? I'm thinking that the device will be called the iSlate, but perhaps some software or app inside the device's OS will be called the iPad.
goobot
Jan 20, 2010, 02:42 PM
if ituoch wasnt tooken i think that would be good. ipad doesnt seem. bad. now just bring on the att subsidized pricing :rolleyes:
Small White Car
Jan 20, 2010, 02:48 PM
I get it. You buy the device for $300 and then you buy its name (pick 1 of 6!) for an additional $300.
thewireman
Jan 20, 2010, 02:48 PM
Jesus. I hope it's not "iPad".
jav6454
Jan 20, 2010, 02:50 PM
iProd sound familiar anyone?
amac4me
Jan 20, 2010, 02:50 PM
Interesting developments tracked here by both MacRumors and Gawker. Clearly a misstep by Fujitsu that Apple seems to want to pounce on.
I'm no legal expert and don't understand the basis/legal foundation of the opposition extension request but pushing it out to Feb 28, 2010 gets me thinking that Apple may have bought themselves a window to introduce a product under the iPad name.
Any lawyers here that can chime in from a trademark and legal perspective?
This is getting very interesting :apple:
daveL
Jan 20, 2010, 02:50 PM
I have filed for trademarks myself and based on the posted article I think I can offer an explanation:
When you file for a TM, but have not yet "used it in commerce" the TM is classified as "intention of use". Until the status of the TM becomes "used in commerce", meaning it is being sold, the TM cannot actually be granted. So, it appears Apple's desire to extend the time to oppose Fujitsu's move to revive the TM (which in itself would indicate it has not actual produced a product for sale) is due to the fact that, if Apple does produce an "iPad" device "used in commerce", its claim for the TM would supersede Fujitsu's attempt to revive its expired "intention to use" (my assumption) TM status. Sorry for the *very* long sentence.
Small White Car
Jan 20, 2010, 02:51 PM
Jesus. I hope it's not "iPad".
Why? What could possibly be wrong with calling it iPad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BUH9eXy18)?
bndoarn
Jan 20, 2010, 02:52 PM
No. It should not be called iPad. It sounds like it's going to be covered in period blood.
thewireman
Jan 20, 2010, 02:53 PM
Why? What could possibly be wrong with calling it iPad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BUH9eXy18)?
Ha ha, yeah I saw that yesterday. I loved this one...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZKjJt-TkU
ELScorcho9
Jan 20, 2010, 02:55 PM
I'm beginning to believe that there's actually two different devices here.....
Maybe iSlate is the tablet and iPad is for some sort of multi-touch pad keyboard thing for their desktop line.
Maybe a little far-fetched, but you never know!
Shasterball
Jan 20, 2010, 02:55 PM
Jesus. I hope it's not "iPad".
Agreed. iPooPoo the idea.
Lesser Evets
Jan 20, 2010, 02:55 PM
God, we still have a week of this crap to endure.
PLEASE LET IT BE OVER.
baleensavage
Jan 20, 2010, 02:56 PM
God, we still have a week of this crap to endure.
PLEASE LET IT BE OVER.
iAgree!
thewireman
Jan 20, 2010, 02:57 PM
God, we still have a week of this crap to endure.
PLEASE LET IT BE OVER.
Yeah, tell me about it. It feels like its three years away.
sam10685
Jan 20, 2010, 02:59 PM
Wasn't "iPad" a name used by SNL to make fun of the name iPod? (I like iSlate better myself.)
DipDog3
Jan 20, 2010, 03:00 PM
iTablet, iSlate, iPad....
Only Steve Jobs knows!
jaredrou
Jan 20, 2010, 03:00 PM
The reason for not filing an opposition instead of an extension is simple: They want to see if they can just get Fujitsu to agree to release it first. If they don't, then hardball.
thewireman
Jan 20, 2010, 03:01 PM
Wasn't "iPad" a name used by SNL to make fun of the name iPod? (I like iSlate better myself.)
I thought MadTV started that...
jaredrou
Jan 20, 2010, 03:01 PM
iPad... iPod...
We need iPud, iPed and iPid next ;)
and sometimes iPyd.
ltcol266845
Jan 20, 2010, 03:01 PM
I have filed for trademarks myself and based on the posted article I think I can offer an explanation:
When you file for a TM, but have not yet "used it in commerce" the TM is classified as "intention of use". Until the status of the TM becomes "used in commerce", meaning it is being sold, the TM cannot actually be granted. So, it appears Apple's desire to extend the time to oppose Fujitsu's move to revive the TM (which in itself would indicate it has not actual produced a product for sale) is due to the fact that, if Apple does produce an "iPad" device "used in commerce", its claim for the TM would supersede Fujitsu's attempt to revive its expired "intention to use" (my assumption) TM status. Sorry for the *very* long sentence.
Thank you for your clear insight! Certainly clears up the issue. Kudos!
miles01110
Jan 20, 2010, 03:02 PM
Belkin should make a peripheral called the iProbe.
"Yes, there's even an app for that."
3N16MA
Jan 20, 2010, 03:02 PM
iPad does not sound good, however 9 years ago an iPod sounded like some weird toilet. MacPad would also be horrible since it sounds like Maxi Pad. They should just call it Apple Slice.
edbtzuk
Jan 20, 2010, 03:06 PM
Its a smooth name but it would certainly be made fun of. Imagine seeing a commercial for an iPad. Lets call it the Macsipad! :)
I agree. Here's my poke at it: Does the iPad come with wings?
sam10685
Jan 20, 2010, 03:06 PM
I thought MadTV started that...
Yes... Them... I couldn't remember who it was exactly. Now that I think of it, that is the kind of thing that they'd make up.
Lesser Evets
Jan 20, 2010, 03:09 PM
iDontreallycareandneitherdoanyofyou
If this thing is amazing, you'll love it, even if it is called iFeces.
Hell, most of you already own something called Wii...
And it's a stick you hold in your hand and jerk around, to boot.
macFan3000
Jan 20, 2010, 03:11 PM
iPad = 7 inch
iSlate = 10 inch
mikeinternet
Jan 20, 2010, 03:12 PM
If they were going to go after Fujitsu and say that iPad is too much like iPod. Wouldn't HP be able to complain about them being too much like the iPaq?
http://reviews.cnet.com/pdas/hp-ipaq-pocket-pc/4505-3127_7-30974570.html
The name doesn't matter. Just give me a reason to want one on top of already having an iphone and laptop.
ctdonath
Jan 20, 2010, 03:12 PM
FWIW, Apple has the precedent of "MessagePad".
... which also raises the irony of Steve Jobs having killed the Newton upon his return, only to recreate it as what could be his final masterpiece.
sam10685
Jan 20, 2010, 03:13 PM
I thought MadTV started that...
Yep. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BUH9eXy18) SNL is so much less ridiculous. Although they too have sketches where the writer of it should be fired.
decimortis
Jan 20, 2010, 03:13 PM
I imagine there's a few places in the world where someone's accent is going to make requesting an "iPad" confusing to the sales person. I'd eat my own shoe if it's called an iPad.
goobot
Jan 20, 2010, 03:14 PM
doesnt ipad sound like a touch keyboard?
jk5150
Jan 20, 2010, 03:16 PM
Last I checked, Apple was no longer using "iBook". My guess would be that they simply re-cycle that. All this other hoopla about iSlate, iPad, etc. is just for them to control the naming rights for the product segment to prevent knockoffs playing off the name.
JGowan
Jan 20, 2010, 03:16 PM
I think iPad is a great name. Those who want makes jokes will joke. Screw 'em, Apple!
:apple:Pad would also be a great name and an excellent way to market the device.
fobfob
Jan 20, 2010, 03:20 PM
Why do people think it's going to be either iPad or iSlate.
Can't it be both? I'm thinking that the device will be called the iSlate, but perhaps some software or app inside the device's OS will be called the iPad.
Exactly. It might be a word processing app for example.
Not every iThing is a device:
iTunes
iWork
iLife
harley3k
Jan 20, 2010, 03:20 PM
I still prefer:
Apple Canvas...
Canvas for short.
iCanvas is even better.
:apple:Canvas
iCanvas
Although it really depends on the functionality of the device. If it's more for book/magazine reading, it's not much of a "Canvas" - if it's easy to create content, draw, etc...Canvas works.
I like iPad only if it's in a legal-pad type of form factor. Leather binder sold separately of course.
8CoreWhore
Jan 20, 2010, 03:22 PM
I can see them locking it up just so no one else uses the name. Apple Slate it is, though. :cool:
RawBert
Jan 20, 2010, 03:24 PM
How 'bout...
iPood!
If you see it upside down, it's the same.
or iPaid ...as in, iPaid a lot for this tablet, but it's totally worth it.
Kat King123
Jan 20, 2010, 03:25 PM
this sucks people are gonna think apple is making tampons now :(
CaryMacGuy
Jan 20, 2010, 03:25 PM
iPad might be an interesting name for the device...Whether they call it, it will do very well and will redefine culture. In 2001 the name iPod seemed silly.
cal6n
Jan 20, 2010, 03:26 PM
I don't even want to know what an "iPed" would be...
Maybe one of these?
http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/blueandred_segway.jpg
RawBert
Jan 20, 2010, 03:31 PM
Hey, next week, when we all find out what it's gonna be called, we'll see which one of you guys is right. Although, iPad or iSlate have the majority - so I don't think any ONE of us can claim it. However, we have seen some great originals. A lot of us really like CANVAS. That was suggested a few days ago but I don't recall by who(m?).
Who ever wins gets a DOLLAR!
ggbrown
Jan 20, 2010, 03:39 PM
...what it's called, so long as it is new, creative, useful, and well...cool.
Apple has a good track record. For them to invite people to see "Their new creation", they must be proud and confident of it.
Bring it on, and let us enjoy it.
G
ineedamac
Jan 20, 2010, 03:41 PM
God, we still have a week of this crap to endure.
PLEASE LET IT BE OVER.
I just wonder what everyone will complain, I mean talk about next.
f00f
Jan 20, 2010, 03:41 PM
iDontreallycareandneitherdoanyofyou
If this thing is amazing, you'll love it, even if it is called iFeces.
Hell, most of you already own something called Wii...
And it's a stick you hold in your hand and jerk around, to boot.
Exactly! It could be a steaming pile of poo straight from the horse's arse, but if it has an :apple: logo on it it will be an expensive pile and, regardless of the price or the smell, it will be another "need" for our Apple gadget collections
I'm hoping for iPupu Platter, personally. :P ;)
TraceyS/FL
Jan 20, 2010, 03:43 PM
Last I checked, Apple was no longer using "iBook". My guess would be that they simply re-cycle that. All this other hoopla about iSlate, iPad, etc. is just for them to control the naming rights for the product segment to prevent knockoffs playing off the name.
They might not be, but I still am using one....
I still prefer:
Apple Canvas...
Canvas for short.
iCanvas is even better.
:apple:Canvas
iCanvas
Although it really depends on the functionality of the device. If it's more for book/magazine reading, it's not much of a "Canvas" - if it's easy to create content, draw, etc...Canvas works.
I like iPad only if it's in a legal-pad type of form factor. Leather binder sold separately of course.
Hey, next week, when we all find out what it's gonna be called, we'll see which one of you guys is right. Although, iPad or iSlate have the majority - so I don't think any ONE of us can claim it. However, we have seen some great originals. A lot of us really like CANVAS. That was suggested a few days ago but I don't recall by who(m?).
Who ever wins gets a DOLLAR!
Canvas is a Trademark that was originally drawing software from Deneba for the Mac back in the 90's, it is now on version 11 and only PC only.
I seriously doubt they would use that, or that ACDsee would release it....
http://store.acdsee.com/store/acd/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.78702300/ThemeID.834200/
sbfunlover
Jan 20, 2010, 03:47 PM
No. It should not be called iPad. It sounds like it's going to be covered in period blood.
Well... the invitation did have splotches all over it.
zed2
Jan 20, 2010, 03:52 PM
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Why not call it "padd" after all who won't play at star trek with it an install a LCARS application!!! :D
hfletcher
Jan 20, 2010, 03:53 PM
Maybe the iPad is some kind of wireless charging "pad" to replace the dock of a potential iSlate :rolleyes:
*LTD*
Jan 20, 2010, 03:57 PM
Ok, whatever, let's just see this thing already.
Antares
Jan 20, 2010, 04:00 PM
I'm still pushing for iTab or MacTab.
MacTab = device running full version of OSX
iTab = device running a slimmed down OSX...like the iPhone OS
Though, as I've said in the other thread, iPad sounds better than iSlate.
wobudong
Jan 20, 2010, 04:06 PM
iVay!
:rolleyes:
paul4339
Jan 20, 2010, 04:08 PM
I'm beginning to believe that there's actually two different devices here.....
Maybe iSlate is the tablet and iPad is for some sort of multi-touch pad keyboard thing for their desktop line.
Maybe a little far-fetched, but you never know!
I agree, I would 'guess' that iPad sounds like a new input device (buttonless/touch based keyboard) for the desktop.
ipure
Jan 20, 2010, 04:10 PM
so what's the fuss about iPoop guys?
wobudong
Jan 20, 2010, 04:10 PM
iGOR
:mad:
kernkraft
Jan 20, 2010, 04:11 PM
I'm almost waiting for the weekend as I know that there will be no more posts about the tablet. This whole speculation became frustrating months ago. Now, it's almost killing some people here.
There is something sad in the fact that while several tablets made a debut this month, none had the hype nor the success that such a device would deserve. Perhaps, some will say that they were from other companies. But honestly... how many upgrades will we see before one can completely satisfied with an almost-brand-new product type?
Will the screen be the best compromise? Will the processor will be able to handle more complex tasks or will the market give the thumbs-up for a large iPhone?
I think, I just stop reading tech news until the end of the month, then I'll just check, whatever is out.
chadder007
Jan 20, 2010, 04:15 PM
I really hope it's not iPad.
Same here....then it would forever remind me of that Apple/MaxiPad spoof.
Stately
Jan 20, 2010, 04:17 PM
I get it. You buy the device for $300 and then you buy its name (pick 1 of 6!) for an additional $300.
Better yet, it may just be, "pick one of the six devices to suit your needs". ;)
Lol, and then we'll make fun of our friends that bought the ipad device out of the six. :D
deus_ex_machina
Jan 20, 2010, 04:19 PM
iPad = 7 inch
iSlate = 10 inch
now THAT is certainly a possibility - fits well with the rumor of 2 sizes of tablets, like Apple does in the iPod and Mac line.
Stately
Jan 20, 2010, 04:20 PM
iPad does not sound good, however 9 years ago an iPod sounded like some weird toilet. MacPad would also be horrible since it sounds like Maxi Pad. They should just call it Apple Slice.
Funny thing . . I still don't like the name ipod lol.
born4sky
Jan 20, 2010, 04:21 PM
I think it's such a pointless thing ...
slicecom
Jan 20, 2010, 04:25 PM
I hope they name it iPad, it ties in well with iPod and iPhone. Those making jokes about it will stop after a few weeks. Same thing happened when Nintendo unveiled the Wii. Nobody's laughing now.
jamesryanbell
Jan 20, 2010, 04:26 PM
No one knows how useful it'll be until we see it.
Bevz
Jan 20, 2010, 04:27 PM
iDontreallycareandneitherdoanyofyou
If this thing is amazing, you'll love it, even if it is called iFeces.
Hell, most of you already own something called Wii...
And it's a stick you hold in your hand and jerk around, to boot.
That's a fair point about the wii... Now THAT really is a bloody stupid name! :)
sushi
Jan 20, 2010, 04:28 PM
Why? What could possibly be wrong with calling it iPad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BUH9eXy18)?
Funny.
iPod touch becomes iTouch for short.
So maybe these make sense:
- iPod Slate or iSlate for short.
- iPod Tablet or iTablet for short.
iPad brings up other ideas.
Will the new tablet be part of the iPod lineup, or a whole new line up such as the MacBook Tablet?
I can imagine that Apple employees in the know are having quite a chuckle over this. :)
bennyek
Jan 20, 2010, 04:30 PM
Anyone want a domain :-) https://www.sedo.co.uk/search/details.php4?domain=ipadlovers.com&edit=1&tracked=&partnerid=0&language=e
TouchMeHere
Jan 20, 2010, 04:32 PM
If Apple reserves iPad, I don't think it should necessarily mean the tablet is going to be called iPad. It's quite possible the name was reserved for something else that will come down the line. Maybe it's for a new touchpad as a replacement for the mouse in the coming near future...
verbalhijacker
Jan 20, 2010, 04:34 PM
Like the previous poster who stated 'I think it's such a pointless thing ... "
I share his views, I think Apple have become too confident of their success with Ipod and Iphones, which do have a real consumer market and really do outclass others products in their fields. This is also true of OSX(Windows 7 is huge improvement tho, so watch this space) however a tablet that has a phone built into it reminds me of the British comedy sketch Trigger happy TV, with guy walking about with giant mobile phone.
ipad, islate, icanvas won't make hell of a difference when ican't sell due to lack of consumer demand. Maybe just maybe thiis may appeal to the business sector, however at price tag of £500 +, i'm thinking ibroke and iwont.
Pika
Jan 20, 2010, 04:36 PM
iPad... iPod...
We need iPud, iPed and iPid next ;)
You forgot iPyd :D
gibbz
Jan 20, 2010, 04:40 PM
iPad... iPod...
We need iPud, iPed and iPid next ;)
... and sometimes iPyd
ivladster
Jan 20, 2010, 04:47 PM
I don't think so. It's a good idea to trademark names of products that might be used in the future. Apple likes to hold its iNames. iPad doesn't sound too good, plus its too close to iPod. Gonna be some confusion I think.
kernkraft
Jan 20, 2010, 04:48 PM
If it's not gonna be called 'John', then its name is going to be...
iSpy!
thesmall
Jan 20, 2010, 04:51 PM
i think the drag and drop concept will work great for them.... i pod has achieved a new hallmark... hatss off to these guys..
Schizoid
Jan 20, 2010, 04:52 PM
That's a lot of money to spend on lawyers just for an iPad...
here's a name you can have for free: iFlap
lightpeak
Jan 20, 2010, 04:55 PM
iDud
I'm going to totally going to use this to mock the name and concept if they go w/ this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BUH9eXy18
(iPad sketch on MadTV)
carrierk
Jan 20, 2010, 04:58 PM
So everyone gets a shot at speculating...why not the new Newton iPad?
I believe it will be a two part name "blank" iPad. It will not be iPad on it's own. At least I hope not!
Mac Kiwi
Jan 20, 2010, 04:59 PM
It sounds to me like Apple are hoovering up names so that the competition only have really dorky ones to choose from,when they introduce their offerings.
I have to say islate has grown on me as the name of choice,considering also people are calling these tablets slates now.....look what happened with the ipod.
Chupa Chupa
Jan 20, 2010, 05:10 PM
Seems pretty obvious to me that Apple wants this to lock up in the vault. Nothing more than that. I think the era of "i" is over. It's tired, Apple knows it, and will come up with a fresher name.
myusernamesucks
Jan 20, 2010, 05:13 PM
I agree. Here's my poke at it: Does the iPad come with wings?
I honestly don't understand all the negativity towards iPad. When someone says "come over to my pad", or "hand me that pad of paper", or "we've ordered the concrete and we'll be pouring the pad tomorrow", I can honesty say I NEVER think of feminine hygiene products. You're either all 12 years old (or 25 with the maturity of a 12 year old) or really, REALLY over thinking things.
DudeDad
Jan 20, 2010, 05:19 PM
If you get it with as much memory you can, will it be a MaxiPad? Wait, I've heard of that before...
Luke1robb
Jan 20, 2010, 05:23 PM
I'm beginning to believe that there's actually two different devices here.....
Maybe iSlate is the tablet and iPad is for some sort of multi-touch pad keyboard thing for their desktop line.
Maybe a little far-fetched, but you never know!
I don't think its far-fetched AT ALL. Frankly, the desktop line NEEDS a trackpad equivalent. I think they might release a new keyboard with the trackpad on the right side, calling it the iPad...ala Multi-Touch Track*pad*
The ONLY problem I have with that is...what about the lefties? I guess they could make it usb attachment to either side of the keyboard, making it universal for lefties and righties.
Thoughts?
Luke1robb
Jan 20, 2010, 05:24 PM
iTablet, iSlate, iPad....
Only Steve Jobs knows!
Steve Jobs...and a bunch of engineers...and marketing people...let's face it, A BUNCH of people know the name, its just its in their best interest to not tell anyone. If you're that close to the thing, you probably understand the value of not giving out the secret.
iZac
Jan 20, 2010, 05:35 PM
I don't even want to know what an "iPed" would be...
Basically a nike+
kockgunner
Jan 20, 2010, 05:58 PM
We'll probably get used to the name. I guess it's good branding since it sounds like 'iPod'. BUT, does this mean that it will be more similar to the iPhone/iPod touch than a Macintosh?
HowardRoarke
Jan 20, 2010, 06:01 PM
why is everyone's getting all hyped on childish names like the picaso, icanvas, ipad. how about the implimentation of the 'air' brand or just staying focused on their core brands. the elegant and edgy mac marketing (with the exception of this atrocious paint splat invite) needs to be expanded on not regressed on.
it is, more my wish then presumption, that their branding diverges in these tangents
air - ultraportable, sleek, streamlined uses
think: airpod + airpod touch(still sounds like ipod) mac airphone
mac - meat and potatoes demographic
think: macpod (replaces ipod classic) macbook, mac (replaces imac)
pro - industry lapping leader
macPhone Pro aluminum unibody (every fan boys dream)
macBook Pro ( every fan boys dream available in colorware options... because pros deserve it)
macPro (because you'd rather buy a computer than a car)
and hell can we get some design consistancy. mercurys like mercurys; fords like fords; lincolns like lincoln
Creative One
Jan 20, 2010, 06:04 PM
iPad is probally the pad it rests on to charge wirelessly.
Doug183
Jan 20, 2010, 06:05 PM
No way is it iPad.
1) Too confusing with iPod
2) a horrible name unless its a feminine hygiene product.
mac1984user
Jan 20, 2010, 06:23 PM
These MaxiPad comments are so ridiculous. STOP. JUST STOP. Firstly, remember when the Nintendo Wii was announced and everyone was like, 'As in WEE?!' *giggle, giggle*. And now, despite its name, no one can get enough of the Wii, it seems. If the tablet truly is called the iPad, all of you likening it to a sanitary napkin will still go out and buy one, just like the hardcore Nintendo fan who complained about the 'Wii'. Secondly, not every country in the world has the brand 'MaxiPad', so not every human being will necessarily make the connection between an American branded feminine product and Apple's latest creation. So, give it up. Please.
TraceyS/FL
Jan 20, 2010, 06:26 PM
How about iPad as the software suite that comes on the Slate??
You know... the legal pad replacement... the sketch pad replacement.... the notepad replacement....
The "iLife" for the on the go tablet.
adville
Jan 20, 2010, 06:26 PM
As a trademark lawyer practiced in both applications and opposition proceedings, I can say definitively that it is not unusual to file all available extensions of time in which to oppose before doing so. The extensions are available precisely so that the parties can negotiate a settlement before a proceeding is commenced. The only notable aspect is that the last extension available, of 60 days, is available only with the consent of the applicant. So 1) Apple will not be able to obtain another extension after the present one, and 2) it would not have been able to obtain this one without Toshiba's consent.
mac1984user
Jan 20, 2010, 06:28 PM
2) it would not have been able to obtain this one without Toshiba's consent.
Fujitsu. I'm glad to see your lawyer powers of observation are still so finely tuned. =) (I'm just taking the piss - no real offence)
Stately
Jan 20, 2010, 06:31 PM
It will be called Newton . .
mac1984user
Jan 20, 2010, 06:33 PM
It will be called Newton . .
I bloody hope so. But that's just the nostalgic side of me coming out. It might not be wise to name it after a failed product from the 90s, and Jobs would never name something after one of Scully's pet projects.
Niteace
Jan 20, 2010, 06:33 PM
I imagine there's a few places in the world where someone's accent is going to make requesting an "iPad" confusing to the sales person. I'd eat my own shoe if it's called an iPad.
Haha, kinda hoping its gonna be called iPad now! Would be entertaining to see that :)
Compile 'em all
Jan 20, 2010, 06:43 PM
Notice anything familiar?
http://i.imgur.com/NTh8q.jpg
I have mentioned previously that iSlate would be the name, but it looks more and more evidence is pointing towards iPad being the name.
becauseofoz
Jan 20, 2010, 06:48 PM
If Apple filed their opposition, then its obvious theyre interested in the name. This way it keeps us guessing as to what the real name.
Also, the same people making fun of the iPad name made fun of the Wii, and now the name is a name brand sans jokes. So iPad it is, get used to it.
ashoka8350
Jan 20, 2010, 07:01 PM
I'm still pushing for iTab or MacTab.
MacTab = device running full version of OSX
iTab = device running a slimmed down OSX...like the iPhone OS
Though, as I've said in the other thread, iPad sounds better than iSlate.
Why not MacPad and iPad instead of Tabs !!
deputylove8
Jan 20, 2010, 07:24 PM
iDunno
twoodcc
Jan 20, 2010, 07:30 PM
well i sure hope this isn't the name, even though it looks like it will be.
TraceyS/FL
Jan 20, 2010, 07:31 PM
I just had another thought.... along the lines of my earlier thinking (hoping) that it might be related to the software side.
iMac - that was "Internet Mac" right? So the "i" could in this case mean "interactive pad".
I don't like it as the primary name - i prefer Slate, but i have to keep pondering it until Wednesday like the rest of you! LOL!!
zap2
Jan 20, 2010, 07:32 PM
I think iSlate sounds a bit nice...regardless I'm far more interested in what it will do versus what it will be called.
I'm really hoping its more Mac like then iPhone like
SockRolid
Jan 20, 2010, 07:38 PM
iBook 2.0. No trademark problem there.
inkhead
Jan 20, 2010, 07:46 PM
I imagine there's a few places in the world where someone's accent is going to make requesting an "iPad" confusing to the sales person. I'd eat my own shoe if it's called an iPad.
Are you willing to eat your own shoe? If you stick by your word I'll make a wager here before everyone on the forums, that I'll cook and eat my own shoe, if it isn't called iPad. I'm 100% sure it's called iPad.
Please, please take the wager…
Mark Booth
Jan 20, 2010, 08:05 PM
It is going to be called the iSlate. Everyone that hates that name might as well learn to get over it now, because that is what it will be called!
Mark
EnigMoiD
Jan 20, 2010, 08:13 PM
I'm beginning to believe that there's actually two different devices here.....
Maybe iSlate is the tablet and iPad is for some sort of multi-touch pad keyboard thing for their desktop line.
Maybe a little far-fetched, but you never know!
I like this idea... iPad may bring to mind the wrong image, but it's way better than "Magic Slate" or any combination thereof.
Ugg
Jan 20, 2010, 08:14 PM
FWIW, Apple has the precedent of "MessagePad".
... which also raises the irony of Steve Jobs having killed the Newton upon his return, only to recreate it as what could be his final masterpiece.
Personally, I'd love to see it named "Newton". I think the whole "i" thing is past its sell by date.
SachaS
Jan 20, 2010, 08:21 PM
It will be called iSlate. It has a nice ring to it.
The iPad will be used for another device. Someone else suggested a wireless charging 'mat' or 'pad'. Possible.
The 'i' isn't dead yet.
appleguy123
Jan 20, 2010, 08:29 PM
Ithink it will be that multitouch trackpad for desktops that everyone wants :rolleyes:
E.Lizardo
Jan 20, 2010, 08:37 PM
if ituoch wasnt tooken i think that would be good. ipad doesnt seem. bad. now just bring on the att subsidized pricing :rolleyes:
I'm guessing you meant iTouch.It's not"tooken"since there is no such product with that name.
E.Lizardo
Jan 20, 2010, 08:41 PM
iPad = 7 inch
iSlate = 10 inch
iGag=12 inch
sorry
Mr. Gates
Jan 20, 2010, 08:42 PM
I'm guessing you meant iTouch.It's not"tooken"since there is no such product with that name.
I am guessing that He/she is posting with an iPhone , and that is why the spelling is all out of whack
LastName
Jan 20, 2010, 08:43 PM
I agree. Here's my poke at it: Does the iPad come with wings?
If it prevents memory leaks, I say go for it. :D
deconstruct60
Jan 20, 2010, 08:44 PM
I have filed for trademarks myself and based on the posted article I think I can offer an explanation:
When you file for a TM, but have not yet "used it in commerce" the TM is classified as "intention of use". Until the status of the TM becomes "used in commerce", meaning it is being sold, the TM cannot actually be granted. So, it appears Apple's desire to extend the time to oppose Fujitsu's move to revive the TM (which in itself would indicate it has not actual produced a product for sale) is due to the fact that, if Apple does produce an "iPad" device "used in commerce", its claim for the TM would supersede Fujitsu's attempt to revive its expired "intention to use" (my assumption) TM status. Sorry for the *very* long sentence.
In other words....... use it or loose it. ;-)
That is another reason why doesn't make tons of sense for Apple to chase after a name they really don't have an intention to use long term. You can squat on names and perhaps get paid some "you can buy me off to go away" money but with a well lawyered and funded competitor they are just going to walk over you.
If they wanted to squat on it because "it is too similar" that's not going to be extremely effective defense. It would be an additional annoyance layer though.
Consultant
Jan 20, 2010, 08:46 PM
Noooos to just iPad.
iPad Slate ^^
Nice. I can live with that.
iGag=12 inch
sorry
ROTF! =)
Thex1138
Jan 20, 2010, 08:51 PM
7 days to go folks and the guessing will be over.
DriveByPoster
Jan 20, 2010, 08:53 PM
Don't know if it's been mentioned, but do you think it's possible these names are being registered to ensure noone buys the knockoffs that will inevitably follow?
E.Lizardo
Jan 20, 2010, 08:55 PM
why is everyone's getting all hyped on childish names like the picaso, icanvas, ipad. how about the implimentation of the 'air' brand or just staying focused on their core brands. the elegant and edgy mac marketing (with the exception of this atrocious paint splat invite) needs to be expanded on not regressed on.
it is, more my wish then presumption, that their branding diverges in these tangents
air - ultraportable, sleek, streamlined uses
think: airpod + airpod touch(still sounds like ipod) mac airphone
mac - meat and potatoes demographic
think: macpod (replaces ipod classic) macbook, mac (replaces imac)
pro - industry lapping leader
macPhone Pro aluminum unibody (every fan boys dream)
macBook Pro ( every fan boys dream available in colorware options... because pros deserve it)
macPro (because you'd rather buy a computer than a car)
and hell can we get some design consistancy. mercurys like mercurys; fords like fords; lincolns like lincoln
All of the above is just simply atrocious.
E.Lizardo
Jan 20, 2010, 08:58 PM
Notice anything familiar?
http://i.imgur.com/NTh8q.jpg
I have mentioned previously that iSlate would be the name, but it looks more and more evidence is pointing towards iPad being the name.
Not really,no.
E.Lizardo
Jan 20, 2010, 09:01 PM
iBook 2.0. No trademark problem there.
No.They won't name something completely new and different after a previous product.
Would Toyota come out with a new luxury flagship and name it the Tercel?
E.Lizardo
Jan 20, 2010, 09:03 PM
Are you willing to eat your own shoe? If you stick by your word I'll make a wager here before everyone on the forums, that I'll cook and eat my own shoe, if it isn't called iPad. I'm 100% sure it's called iPad.
Please, please take the wager…
I'll eat both your shoes and make tea with your dirty socks if it's the iBook.
mixel
Jan 20, 2010, 09:03 PM
I would expect the iPad to be the expanded touchpad input device for pre-existing Macs (so they aren't left out when some future macs get more touch friendly), and iSlate to be the flagship standalone tablet device.
I'd say the chance of them actually releasing two devices like that are small. :/
deconstruct60
Jan 20, 2010, 09:16 PM
Personally, I'd love to see it named "Newton". I think the whole "i" thing is past its sell by date.
In so far as "i" is indicative of the Internet being the new feature that is (or one of the primary) evolutionary differences then it would be more appropriate here than on the original iPods (which had no native internet connectivity). The evolution of the iPods into the iPod Touch is only now a reflection of that on the device.
One of the primary differentiators of the iPhone was also the internet. You can look at the wide disparity in folks surfing the web on iPhone versus other smartphones to see that. The display and the browser (and to lessor extent multitouch gestures) basically make that tolerable (versus what most of the competitors had out on the market at the time).
Likewise a huge difference between the Newton and this device will likely b e that it is hooked to the internet out of the box. Likely in multiple ways (i.e., WiFi and cell based data networks ). Yeah sure you could stick some do-dad onto the Newton in one of the slots to add capability, but it wasn't a core, defining feature.
To be fair, the internet was still not well know at the time the Newton started and was still evolving when it got killed.
(and Apple's attempt to create networks with infrared was a bust.
http://gizmodo.com/5452193/the-story-behind-apples-newton
one of several things that were just too early to do right associated with the Newton. )
deconstruct60
Jan 20, 2010, 09:34 PM
No.They won't name something completely new and different after a previous product.
Would Toyota come out with a new luxury flagship and name it the Tercel?
How is it completely new and different? Are you looking at physical attributes or intent?
The original iBook was designed as a computer to be used in educational classroom. If this is a computer than takes elements of the classroom ( books, pen and paper , drawing , note taking , filling out exams , etc. ) into the computer than it serves a very similar purpose.
Its purpose was also to deliver a more affordable portable computer. There is a huge gap between iPod Touch and MacBook now that is not being filled by Apple. Again if go back to the original intent it is serving similar purposes. [ Not in the same way though as being a Mac OS X device. However, there is a question really need a Mac OS X device or not. ]
Frankly a 1966 Mustang doesn't look exactly like a 2010 Mustang.
Neither does a 2010 Camaro look exactly like a 1975 one.
Nor did a Thunderbird flashback look exactly like the most popular thunderbird.
I suspect may not want to pigeon hole it as a "book replacement only" device, but then again the original iBook didn't really suffer from that perception when it was released.
I can see if solely look at the final generations of iBook might create confusion, but if you got back to the roots it could be a better targeted solution to the name. Although the lack of "Mac" in the new should be instructive to people at this point to set expectations.
SmokyD
Jan 20, 2010, 09:54 PM
This just in: it's going to be called the iMatey.
Yarrhh!
powers74
Jan 20, 2010, 10:21 PM
Why? What could possibly be wrong with calling it iPad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BUH9eXy18)?
I wonder if Steve's seen that...
Clix Pix
Jan 20, 2010, 10:31 PM
The more I think about it the more I like "Magic Slate...." Really! As I stroke my finger(s) along my Magic Mouse it just seems like a natural progression of that "magic" naming convention bit to call this new "slate" a "Magic Slate."
Only a week until we are put out of our misery and finally find out!
motulist
Jan 20, 2010, 11:06 PM
There are so many better alternatives that there's no reason to call it an iPad, which is too close to iPod, and connotes a feminine hygiene product. For instance, depending on how they're planning on positioning this new product, they could call it any of these:
iHand
iNote
iPaper
iWalk
iMe
iFrame
iCompanion
iAttendant
iEtc.
or even just calling it iNotePad would be good.
djchuckc27
Jan 21, 2010, 12:19 AM
mac, phone, work, pod, tunes, life... i think pad fits in the apple lingo
MinorBidoh
Jan 21, 2010, 01:13 AM
'Maxi-pad' (Mac'siPad) is already floating around uni atm. Pah!
Please oh please not iPad.
mossme89
Jan 21, 2010, 02:41 AM
*iGasm*
knightlie
Jan 21, 2010, 06:46 AM
I am guessing that He/she is posting with an iPhone , and that is why the spelling is all out of whack
Obviously, because the iPhone has no possible way to go back and correct typos before submitting a post. :rolleyes:
kwiiboy
Jan 21, 2010, 07:39 AM
What if they kill off the plastic white macbook, make the _____ $1000, then call it macbook or macpad? (MacMan)?:D
tdream
Jan 21, 2010, 07:44 AM
iSaw iConquered iCame
cxny
Jan 21, 2010, 08:25 AM
but if it's called iPad I'm selling all my AAPL
0dev
Jan 21, 2010, 12:18 PM
So, two tablets, the iSlate and iPad, I assume. One will be for ebooks, newspapers, etc, and one will be for music, films, games, etc.
Sydde
Jan 21, 2010, 12:58 PM
iContact
adville
Jan 21, 2010, 04:39 PM
I have filed for trademarks myself and based on the posted article I think I can offer an explanation:
When you file for a TM, but have not yet "used it in commerce" the TM is classified as "intention of use". Until the status of the TM becomes "used in commerce", meaning it is being sold, the TM cannot actually be granted. So, it appears Apple's desire to extend the time to oppose Fujitsu's move to revive the TM (which in itself would indicate it has not actual produced a product for sale) is due to the fact that, if Apple does produce an "iPad" device "used in commerce", its claim for the TM would supersede Fujitsu's attempt to revive its expired "intention to use" (my assumption) TM status. Sorry for the *very* long sentence.
This is not really accurate. First, Toshiba filed its application on the basis of use in commerce, and it was filed in 2003, claiming first use in 2002. The potential opposer does not need to state what rights they have in order to request an extension of time in which to oppose. As others on the thread pointed out, iPad bears some similarity with iPod, so, to the extent an opposition were based on that mark, Apple's ability to oppose would likely depend not on the mark for a new tablet coming into use, but Apple's priority dates for its rights in the iPod mark.
ianhowell64
Jan 22, 2010, 08:56 AM
Just look at the invitation, there are splashes of different colors of paint. It just hit me.
:)
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