2006 mac pro + windows 7 64bit + bootcamp 3.1?

[slughead]

I can't seem to run the bootcamp 3.1 upgrade on my 2006 mac pro.

I downloaded the 3.1 upgrade but the .exe doesn't seem to launch when I open it.

Do I need to have bootcamp installed first?

Did I read somewhere that this model wont be supported for 64bit windows??

PS: I'm typing this while in windows 7

edit: got it working, but iwth bad results (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9142232&postcount=7)

[bozz2006]

64 bit windows 7 works with your machine, but it says in the lit that Bootcamp 3.1 is not supported in the 2006 Mac Pro.

[slughead]

64 bit windows 7 works with your machine, but it says in the lit that Bootcamp 3.1 is not supported in the 2006 Mac Pro.

So what you're saying is... I need to shell out another $2500 for bootcamp support... ugh

On the plus side, I learned SMCFanControl's settings carry over to windows if you restart from OS X (where it's running) instead of cold-start. My friend with a 2006 mac pro didn't know that and his 8800 overheated (case fan was going too slow)

[gugucom]

I havn't tried BC 3,1 yet but I suspect it will work like 2,1. This means you cannot make a clean install from it. You need to have 3,0 from the snow leopard DVD installed and then it will update over it.

[Mackilroy]

So what you're saying is... I need to shell out another $2500 for bootcamp support... ugh

On the plus side, I learned SMCFanControl's settings carry over to windows if you restart from OS X (where it's running) instead of cold-start. My friend with a 2006 mac pro didn't know that and his 8800 overheated (case fan was going too slow)

My 8800 overheated even with all the fans going full tilt.

[slughead]

I was able to install bootcamp 3.1!

All you have to is manually run the 3.0 installer off the DVD (go into D:\drivers\bootcamp64.exe), and then run the updater.

I'll post how stable it is later

[slughead]

On Bootcamp 3.1 windows 7 drivers:

30 seconds after it booted into windows 7, I get this error. Even in safe mode

it's so fast I can't even get into add/remove programs fast enough to remove the drivers

I consequently had to reinstall windows 7

It was on my list of things to do anyway, this just made me sacrifice sunday morning to do it.

[OZMP]

to install 64bit W7, you must re-burn(or restore to storage media) a non-versioned ISO, there are a few How-To's out there.

I personally wouldn't play around with bootcamp 3.1 when not needed, when there is the above mentioned way to do it.

[slughead]

This thread was referring to the windows-side bootcamp. I had already installed windows 7 prior to this, I just wanted HFS+ drivers and the other apple software for windows.


to install 64bit W7, you must re-burn(or restore to storage media) a non-versioned ISO, there are a few How-To's out there.

I personally wouldn't play around with bootcamp 3.1 when not needed, when there is the above mentioned way to do it.

[gugucom]

Disable the HFS driver in Windows.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2158281&tstart=0

[Gomff]

What a mess.

Apple should take supporting Windows with better drivers more seriously - It is after all a huge selling point for the Mac that it can run Windows as well.

Instead we get no support on older machines that are perfectly capable of running the latest version of Windows 7 64 bit, and even with the newest machines there seem to be issues.

[Spanky Deluxe]

So Bootcamp 3.1 definitely doesn't work with Windows 7 64 bit on 2006 Mac Pros? Considering I had Bootcamp 3.0 working with Windows 7 64 bit on a 2006 Mac Pro for several months, I find that quite poor.

I'd disable HFS support in Windows though anyway as a precaution. Windows managed to corrupt one of my HFS formatted drives about a year ago. It was still accessible in Windows but unreadable in OSX. Nothing but a reformat could rescue it. Just create a common partition somewhere formatted with FAT32 and use that to transfer files.

[slughead]

Disable the HFS driver in Windows.

Well that's all I wanted the bootcamp software for anyway.

[seisend]

I get the exactly same error with my 2009 Mac Pro in Windows 7 64bit Professional when I install Bootcamp 3.0 and Bootcamp 3.1 .I am not sure if it has something to do with the AHCI drivers I selected at installation (provided by gugucom once). Bootcamp 2.0 and Bootcamp 2.1 works fine.

[Infrared]

Stop codes -->

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/findbyerrormessage/tp/stop_error_list_0x1_0x5f.05.htm

:)

[seisend]

Stop codes -->

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/findbyerrormessage/tp/stop_error_list_0x1_0x5f.05.htm

:)

STOP Error 0x00000034: CACHE_MANAGER
STOP error 0x34 means that a problem occurred in the file system's cache manager. STOP code 0x00000034 may also display "CACHE_MANAGER" on the same STOP message.

well that's something we already know from the bluescreen message itself.

[seisend]

double post,sorry

[gugucom]

Well that's all I wanted the bootcamp software for anyway.

yeah, thats catch22. I'm surprised that they did not cure the bugs with 3,1. It seems to be not worth going for.

[TheSpaz]

1. Install Windows 7 64bit
2. Insert Snow Leopard DVD
3. Install Boot Camp 3.0
4. Open Software Update
5. Upgrade to Boot Camp 3.1

That's all I did. It works on my 2006 Mac Pro.

[amtctt]

1. Install Windows 7 64bit
2. Insert Snow Leopard DVD
3. Install Boot Camp 3.0
4. Open Software Update
5. Upgrade to Boot Camp 3.1

That's all I did. It works on my 2006 Mac Pro.

i couldn't even get 3.0 to run. I have W7 64bit installed. i put snow leopard in and it didn't work. anyone got any other ideas?

[TheSpaz]

i couldn't even get 3.0 to run. I have W7 64bit installed. i put snow leopard in and it didn't work. anyone got any other ideas?

You have to do a command with command-line to make the installer run on your machine. I forget what the command is. If I find it, I'll edit this post.

That was easier to find than I thought. You have to do this: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6918301&postcount=1

[amtctt]

You have to do a command with command-line to make the installer run on your machine. I forget what the command is. If I find it, I'll edit this post.

That was easier to find than I thought. You have to do this: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6918301&postcount=1

sweet, this appears to be working. i will follow up later when all said and done. thanks!!!

[TheSpaz]

sweet, this appears to be working. i will follow up later when all said and done. thanks!!!

You're welcome. It worked great for me.

[amtctt]

everything did install and i was able to update to 3.1. next question does windows 7 recognize all 4 processors? i was watching my display on my g15 keyboard lcd and it looked like only 2 were showing there, in OS X, i see 4 bars on my g15. Is there somewhere else i can look to see if all 4 are being used?

[TheSpaz]

everything did install and i was able to update to 3.1. next question does windows 7 recognize all 4 processors? i was watching my display on my g15 keyboard lcd and it looked like only 2 were showing there, in OS X, i see 4 bars on my g15. Is there somewhere else i can look to see if all 4 are being used?

Windows 7 Home Premium does not recognize more than one processor. You need Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate for that feature.

Sucks doesn't it?

What Windows 7 Home Premium is showing you is that you only have 1 processor with 2 cores.

[amtctt]

Windows 7 Home Premium does not recognize more than one processor. You need Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate for that feature.

Sucks doesn't it?

What Windows 7 Home Premium is showing you is that you only have 1 processor with 2 cores.

LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man windows is stupid.

[slughead]

OMFG I didn't believe you so I looked it up from 2 other sources.

I'm so pissed right now it's giving me a headache.

Windows 7 Home Premium does not recognize more than one processor. You need Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate for that feature.

Sucks doesn't it?

What Windows 7 Home Premium is showing you is that you only have 1 processor with 2 cores.

[slughead]

Windows 7 Home Premium does not recognize more than one processor.

Wait, does this mean the programs I run are also limited to 1 processor?

[Cindori]

Of course.


:apple:

[amtctt]

On Bootcamp 3.1 windows 7 drivers:

30 seconds after it booted into windows 7, I get this error. Even in safe mode

it's so fast I can't even get into add/remove programs fast enough to remove the drivers

I consequently had to reinstall windows 7

It was on my list of things to do anyway, this just made me sacrifice sunday morning to do it.

Grrr, i've gotten the blue screen twice, not on boot up, but while doing other stuff. might have to re-install everything.

[goMac]

Wait, does this mean the programs I run are also limited to 1 processor?

You can use Windows Anytime Upgrade to pay money to upgrade your copy of Windows over the internet to Professional/Ultimate. Sucks, but it's the fastest path to a compatible version, and it doesn't require reinstalling.

[adamda]

I've got Windows 7 Pro 64 bit running on my 2006 Mac Pro (model 1,1), but using Boot Camp 3.0 which I had to run via a workaround like the one listed below. I've been running that for a couple months so far, with no problems.

Seeing as 3.1 says it doesn't support my computer (not that it was technically supported in 3.0), I'm hesitant in doing the upgrade, and I'm glad the OP started this thread. Thank you!

It looks like 2 or 3 people from this forum had good or at least not bad experiences with the update... has anyone else had any luck with the upgrade?

[TheSpaz]

I've got Windows 7 Pro 64 bit running on my 2006 Mac Pro (model 1,1), but using Boot Camp 3.0 which I had to run via a workaround like the one listed below. I've been running that for a couple months so far, with no problems.

Seeing as 3.1 says it doesn't support my computer (not that it was technically supported in 3.0), I'm hesitant in doing the upgrade, and I'm glad the OP started this thread. Thank you!

It looks like 2 or 3 people from this forum had good or at least not bad experiences with the update... has anyone else had any luck with the upgrade?

I have the same Mac Pro as you. I'm running Windows 7 64bit on my Mac Pro 1,1 and I've upgraded to Boot Camp 3.1 with no problems. Not a single hitch. Go ahead and try it.

[seisend]

Maybe this can help some of you too:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=790651&page=2

(scroll down a bit to see the first post of february '10)

[mikee1979]

I was wondering if anyone has had this problem or would be able to help me out. I've installed Windows 7 on my 2006 mac pro (mac pro is still in Leopard 10.5 and have'nt used any bootcamp drivers). Everything installed fine and seems to work ok but after about 30mins or so all the fans appear to shut down which can't be a good thing. Should I've installed it with Snow Leopard?

[slughead]

I was wondering if anyone has had this problem or would be able to help me out. I've installed Windows 7 on my 2006 mac pro (mac pro is still in Leopard 10.5 and have'nt used any bootcamp drivers). Everything installed fine and seems to work ok but after about 30mins or so all the fans appear to shut down which can't be a good thing. Should I've installed it with Snow Leopard?

Download SMCFan Control and put your fans up to a higher speed (from within OS X). Then restart into Windows (Do NOT shut down, just restart).

The bootcamp drivers would solve this problem, but obviously we aren't allowed to install them.

[TheSpaz]

Download SMCFan Control and put your fans up to a higher speed (from within OS X). Then restart into Windows (Do NOT shut down, just restart).

The bootcamp drivers would solve this problem, but obviously we aren't allowed to install them.

Umm... just install the Boot Camp drivers.

I'm running a 2006 Mac Pro with Windows 7 64-bit with Boot Camp 64-bit drivers.

[slughead]

Umm... just install the Boot Camp drivers.

I'm running a 2006 Mac Pro with Windows 7 64-bit with Boot Camp 64-bit drivers.

As this thread explains, that's risky and doesn't work for everybody.

[TheSpaz]

As this thread explains, that's risky and doesn't work for everybody.

How is it risky? Also, it works for everybody. We all have the same computer.

[slughead]

How is it risky? Also, it works for everybody. We all have the same computer.

The Bootcamp 3.1 installer does not allow [some?] owners of 2006 mac pros to install 64 bit drivers. The windows installer simply wont open. Also, the support page specifically states that 2006 Mac pros are not supported.

It is possible to force the installer to go anyway (as you know), which is what this thread is about.

Like I said, HFS and "MNT" driver caused my system to go into a BSOD.

Quite a few people have had this problem (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=790651&page=2)

In my case, the BSOD occurred immediately after boot-up even in safe mode, meaning I was unable to remove the driver without some serious effort (I chose to just reinstall windows 7, but there are less extreme ways). This is why it is risky.

[TheSpaz]

The Bootcamp 3.1 installer does not allow [some?] owners of 2006 mac pros to install 64 bit drivers. The windows installer simply wont open. Also, the support page specifically states that 2006 Mac pros are not supported.

It is possible to force the installer to go anyway (as you know), which is what this thread is about.

Like I said, HFS and "MNT" driver caused my system to go into a BSOD.

Quite a few people have had this problem (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=790651&page=2)

In my case, the BSOD occurred immediately after boot-up even in safe mode, meaning I was unable to remove the driver without some serious effort (I chose to just reinstall windows 7, but there are less extreme ways). This is why it is risky.

Everything works okay for me. No driver issues at all. I figured the same version of Windows running on the same hardware would be the same. Guess not.

[slughead]

Everything works okay for me. No driver issues at all. I figured the same version of Windows running on the same hardware would be the same. Guess not.

Well since it's mainly the HFS drivers causing the problem, perhaps you have a different amount/configuration of hard drives.

I have a pretty darn complicated hard drive configuration which is probably the big difference here.

[TheSpaz]

Well since it's mainly the HFS drivers causing the problem, perhaps you have a different amount/configuration of hard drives.

I have a pretty darn complicated hard drive configuration which is probably the big difference here.

Perhaps. I only have 3 internal drives.

[mikee1979]

Thanks for getting back to me, I bit the bullet and decided to install the Bootcamp 3 drivers, and touch wood, it seems to work OK at the moment although I have'nt left the mac on long enough to see if the fans stop.

I'm going to refrain from updating to 3.1 drivers though.

[GMink]

Perhaps. I only have 3 internal drives.

The HFS drivers only flake out when you have software RAID drives set up under OSX. You won't have any problems with BC 3.0 or even 3.1 as long as your drives are standard config.

[melman911]

Ok a little off topic but maybe someone can help me. Ok partition my second hard drive through bootcamp then go through bootcamp installer to install 64 bit Windows 7 (home premium). Ok here is my problem...when my computer goes to restart (with Win 64bit) I get to a black screen that says this:

1.
2.
Select boot type:

Thanks in advance for any help.

[distronic]

Hello everyone,

I also have a 2006 Mac Pro and was able to install Windows 7 64-bit, but after the reboot my screen goes black at the login screen. I have since deleted the ATI .sys driver file and that fixes the problem, so I went on to install the Boot Camp 3.0 drivers. Again after restart, I was greeted by a blank screen at the login, and again deleted the .sys driver. This time I updated the Boot Camp drivers to 3.1, and the blank screen re-appeared.

I am using an ATI Radeon HD 2600(XT?) videocard. For those of you without the blank screen problem, what videocard are you using? I can use the computer without the driver but that will severely limit my uses for running in 64-bit Windows 7...unless I run it 32-bit, to which I don't have a disc for.

I haven't tried, but I do have the 7300GT, and an X1900XT card that I could try. Also, those of you with the 8800GT, any luck? I want to try flashing one of my 2nd Gen 8800GT cards to the first gen. IF YOU HAVE DONE THIS, I would appreciate your feedback. If not, please do not comment on this procedure.

Thank you in advance for your responses.