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Full of Win
Jan 23, 2010, 03:37 PM
I like Rasmussen, but I still think the gold standard in polls is Gallup.

Well, he has finally reached his Lagrange point, where his approval equals his disapproval.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx



freeny
Jan 23, 2010, 03:45 PM
I like Rasmussen, but I still think the gold standard in polls is Gallup.

Well, he has finally reached his Lagrange point, where his approval equals his disapproval.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

Please tell me you dont sit at your computer and wait for polls to change all day...

quagmire
Jan 23, 2010, 03:48 PM
It's the economy and his focus on healthcare that is doing it I bet. IMHO

Sydde
Jan 23, 2010, 04:10 PM
"Lagrange Point", sheesh, do you have the vaguest clue how incredibly ignorant that sounds?

bradl
Jan 23, 2010, 04:15 PM
"Lagrange Point", sheesh, do you have the vaguest clue how incredibly ignorant that sounds?

Read through all of his other posts, then ask yourself that question again. You'll have your answer.

Honestly, if the effort people like Full of Win, IntheNet, and others take to show how much they believe Obama is failing actually went to something positive, we'd be in a much better place financially, socially, and physically.

Pathetic, isn't it?

BL.

Eraserhead
Jan 23, 2010, 04:20 PM
"Lagrange Point", sheesh, do you have the vaguest clue how incredibly ignorant that sounds?

I'm not sure it even makes sense, it means the equilibrium point between two gravitational fields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point). I'm not sure how that applies to Obama.

Full of Win
Jan 23, 2010, 04:22 PM
"Lagrange Point", sheesh, do you have the vaguest clue how incredibly ignorant that sounds?

What do you mean, I thought it was the point where the force exerted by two bodies is equal. For example, at the point between Earth and the moon, the force of the moons gravity is equal to the force of the Earths gravity.

Instead of celestial bodies, I was using Approval and Disapproval.

Sounded cool to me.

I'm not sure it even makes sense, it means the equilibrium point between two gravitational fields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point). I'm not sure how that applies to Obama.

He is at the point in this poll where the force of approval is the same as the force of disapproval.

I just used the concept of approval and disapproval, rather then force of gravity.

Eraserhead
Jan 23, 2010, 04:28 PM
He is at the point in this poll where the force of approval is the same as the force of disapproval.

I just used the concept of approval and disapproval, rather then force of gravity.

Fair enough.

KingYaba
Jan 23, 2010, 04:28 PM
It will be an interesting 2010 election come Nov.

Queso
Jan 23, 2010, 04:34 PM
There are five Lagrange points for each pair of bodies. Which one has Obama reached?

kavika411
Jan 23, 2010, 05:13 PM
He is at the point in this poll where the force of approval is the same as the force of disapproval.

I just used the concept of approval and disapproval, rather then force of gravity.

Avoid similes and metaphors. So far, 84% of this thread is devoted to your apparent misuse of a comparison phrase.

Sydde
Jan 23, 2010, 06:05 PM
Avoid similes and metaphors. So far, 84% of this thread is devoted to your apparent misuse of a comparison phrase.

Because there is nothing else of significance to discuss.

A Lagrange point is not where the force is equal, it is where they balance. At least two, L2 and L3 if I remember right, are not actually between bodies. The analogy is inapt. But we expect so much from an avatar that is such high art.

Queso
Jan 23, 2010, 06:16 PM
L4 and L5 aren't between bodies either :)

Shock!! A link to Wikipedia in PRSI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point)

kavika411
Jan 23, 2010, 06:20 PM
Because there is nothing else of significance to discuss.

A Lagrange point is not where the force is equal, it is where they balance. At least two, L2 and L3 if I remember right, are not actually between bodies. The analogy is inapt. But we expect so much from an avatar that is such high art.

Agreed. His/her premise should - dare I say must - be ignored for his/her failure to use an appropriate literary tool. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Sydde
Jan 23, 2010, 06:35 PM
L4 and L5 aren't between bodies either

Technically, no, but they are not peripheral to the system like L2 and L3

mkrishnan
Jan 24, 2010, 10:05 AM
I'm impressed with the detailed discussion of celestial mechanics in this thread. I find all other aspects of it silly, but I am impressed with the talk of equipotential points. :)

rdowns
Jan 24, 2010, 10:13 AM
Well, he has finally reached his Lagrange point, where his approval equals his disapproval.



Are you studying for the PSAT?

Sky Blue
Jan 24, 2010, 10:33 AM
Are you studying for the PSAT?

Wouldn't surprise me.

KingYaba
Jan 24, 2010, 10:51 AM
lagrange? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7OoTXNzn6k You know what I'm talkin' about.

Sydde
Jan 24, 2010, 01:07 PM
lagrange? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7OoTXNzn6k You know what I'm talkin' about.

Is he bad? Is he nationwide?

Counterfit
Jan 24, 2010, 10:36 PM
Are you studying for the PSAT?

I don't recall ever needing to know about anything involving gravity for the PSAT... Heck, I learned about Lagrange points from a manga.



PS: I approve of your new 'tar. :D

hulugu
Jan 24, 2010, 10:40 PM
I'm impressed with the detailed discussion of celestial mechanics in this thread. I find all other aspects of it silly, but I am impressed with the talk of equipotential points. :)

So am I.

PS: I approve of your new 'tar.

Talk about celestial bodies.

greygray
Jan 26, 2010, 02:23 AM
PS: I approve of your new 'tar. :D

iWant the old one. :(

macuserx86
Jan 26, 2010, 02:50 AM
Here's an interesting poll that asked Americans who they thought the worst president was. The results a proof that statistics aren't always accurate. ;)

http://www.usnews.com/polls/who-was-the-worst-president/results.html

Counterfit
Jan 27, 2010, 11:17 PM
Who the hell did they survey for that? :confused: I couldn't even think of a group to associate them with because of how universally respected Washington was, even in his own time.

Although, it did bring me upon an interesting Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents). Some of those popular opinion poll results are whacky.

Zombie Acorn
Jan 27, 2010, 11:37 PM
Who the hell did they survey for that? :confused: I couldn't even think of a group to associate them with because of how universally respected Washington was, even in his own time.

Although, it did bring me upon an interesting Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents). Some of those popular opinion poll results are whacky.

The person might have had a weird accent where some people thought he was saying "first" instead of "worst". :p

macuserx86
Jan 28, 2010, 01:46 AM
Who the hell did they survey for that? :confused: I couldn't even think of a group to associate them with because of how universally respected Washington was, even in his own time.

Although, it did bring me upon an interesting Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents). Some of those popular opinion poll results are whacky.

It's an online poll. At one point at least 50 people had scripts running that would just constantly vote for Washington, because it's hilarious.
The point that this makes though is that statistics are not infallible, perfect measures of everything. They can be biased, altered or even analyzed wrong.

It's just food for thought.

Sydde
Jan 28, 2010, 02:11 AM
The point that this makes though is that statistics are not infallible, perfect measures of everything. They can be biased, altered or even analyzed wrong.


Never ever trust statistics. One of my favorite examples was "Since universal heathcare came into effect, 90% of Canadians have moved to within 100 miles of the US border" (yes, I know, not really a statistic, but still ridiculous). Another was a report that has been quoted often, that bicycle helmets prevent something like 95% of head injuries - apparently the same report, the part that does not get quoted, shows that they also prevent 75% of injuries to other parts of the body.

I have become very skeptical of 87.4% of all experts with numbers (because 87.4% of all statistics, +/- 2.2%, are made up on the spot).

gauchogolfer
Jan 29, 2010, 03:09 PM
I'm impressed with the detailed discussion of celestial mechanics in this thread. I find all other aspects of it silly, but I am impressed with the talk of equipotential points. :)

Maybe he'll be working on the JWST next! (James Webb Space Telescope, due to be launched to L2 in the near future)