View Full Version : Maybe the 27's are delayed because.....!!!!
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 11:02 AM
THEY ARE GOING TO ANNOUNCE BLU RAY SUPPORT AT THE EVENT NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!
I would die.
What do you think? Is it possible?
MacDawg
Jan 24, 2010, 11:05 AM
No
Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 11:06 AM
No
Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif
But why!?
Queso
Jan 24, 2010, 11:07 AM
Not impossible, but I would think unlikely.
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 11:09 AM
I am so upset. And I know this is an on going issue.. "everybody wants blu ray" and then your going to have someone else come in and say "I don't want blu ray its not everybody, just because you want it doesnt mean we all do" and now I'm saying why not! IIf it's an option and you don't want it don't select it. But what abou the vast majority of us that do? A 1440p screen and NO blu-ray!! Not even 1080p iTunes movies! UGHHHHHH. I don't understand what type of agreement can't be made. Do we have any clues on why they might be delayed other than iLife '10?
Sorry for ranting.
TSX
Jan 24, 2010, 11:12 AM
Why not make blu-ray an option?
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 11:12 AM
Why not make blu-ray an option?
THANK YOU
panzer06
Jan 24, 2010, 11:18 AM
THANK YOU
I agree. It's annoying using this external drive and windows 7 to watch bluray at hotels.
Cheers
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 11:24 AM
I agree. It's annoying using this external drive and windows 7 to watch bluray at hotels.
Cheers
And again, I can see people who say "oh I have a 50 inch to watch blu rays on"...well so do I but I still want support. I feel like this brand new iMac I am about to order is already outdated...
rdowns
Jan 24, 2010, 11:26 AM
Given all the tablet threads, one might have thought that yet another blue ray thread might not be as annoying as usual. One would be wrong.
HLdan
Jan 24, 2010, 11:33 AM
I'm sorry, but the OP needs a reality check. So, just saying your theory is correct, what about the people who already purchased the new 27"? Apple does not just add new features in an existing line and burn the other customers. The current line was just intro'd in October. Do yourself a favor and let the Blu Ray go. If Apple changes their mind then so be it, but let it go, like the Cut N Paste in Finder. Some things you need to just let go of and move on.
racer1441
Jan 24, 2010, 11:54 AM
Nope...Mostly because Apple has enough common sense to understand that Blue Ray blows.
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 12:12 PM
I'm sorry, but the OP needs a reality check. So, just saying your theory is correct, what about the people who already purchased the new 27"? Apple does not just add new features in an existing line and burn the other customers. The current line was just intro'd in October. Do yourself a favor and let the Blu Ray go. If Apple changes their mind then so be it, but let it go, like the Cut N Paste in Finder. Some things you need to just let go of and move on.
It wasn't a theory it was a desire.
And, are you serious? There is always that 2 week period where the break the return point off for new products and updates. People are always going to get "burned" when something new comes out. That how it is. "Let it go and move on". It's a want, something a LOT of people want. It's going to be awesome when they start fading out DVD's next year or two and my year old mac will be useless for new movie releases on hard copy.
Nope...Mostly because Apple has enough common sense to understand that Blue Ray blows.
Yeah, technically your answer makes sense. There is no advantage of blu ray over DVD, its quality is not superior, and the storage space difference is hardly noticable. In fact, I should have just kept my VHS player instead of wasting my money on DVD's.
Honestly, people, I am the most easy-going guy ever. I never come on here acting like a hardass or being a jerk or a smartass, but now I feel like one because you come on here with your stupid comments.
I came in here stating what I wish the product had and complaining (as we all do) about it not being so. Then I get comments like "the OP needs a reality check" and the one by rdowns up there. Just chill out and your meaningless jerk-off comments are not necessary. If you want to tell me why it's pointless to have blu-ray in a mac, fine. But don't be stupid.
archipellago
Jan 24, 2010, 12:38 PM
I'm sorry, but the OP needs a reality check. So, just saying your theory is correct, what about the people who already purchased the new 27"? Apple does not just add new features in an existing line and burn the other customers. The current line was just intro'd in October. Do yourself a favor and let the Blu Ray go. If Apple changes their mind then so be it, but let it go, like the Cut N Paste in Finder. Some things you need to just let go of and move on.
eh...?
If Apple wants or needs to introduce BRD then it will. They have never shown loyalty in any way to their exisiting customer base when announcing new models.... October 09 launch or not.
a few thoughts on this, bearing in mind that Apple are basically a consumer level media centric company.
1/ BRD is the default HD optical format.
2/ Apple have been board members of the BDA since 2005.... and still don't support it.
3/ iTunes content is not even close to BRD quality.
4/ Lots of customers want it.
5/ BRD playback is possible on Linux and Windows.
Most people have thought that Apple weren't at the forefront of new tech for some time now. This kinda confirms it...
I understand the desire to push digital downloads and not having BRD as standard but why not as an option or as a MBA style superdrive?
HD content on big TV screens that iCon mentioned years ago is still driven by optical media.
The embarrassing failure that is Apple TV should have told him that.
what message does it give out....
'want cutting edge HD tech?'
buy Windows.
nice..
iPhysicist
Jan 24, 2010, 12:42 PM
Rant rant rant ... If you want Blu-Ray go on and call Steve Jobs and tell him you want Blu-Ray immediately! For sure he will act as you wish!
I would appreciate a Blu-Ray drive in my MBP but the 13s only have 720p HD resolution so I do not care at all.
Maybe the 27s (your native speaker and you do the ' mistake?!) are delayed because of... limited supply because of the yellow tint issue. I know that is ridiculous.
Pachang
Jan 24, 2010, 12:59 PM
Why not just take insert-able optical media out of the thing and put in a extra HD, GPU? Who needs freakin disks anyway. I'd much prefer dual gpus in ATI crossfire (or maybe just a one bigger one) than blu-ray.
Much more apple thing to do imo, removable disks are just a waste of space.
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 01:25 PM
Why not just take insert-able optical media out of the thing and put in a extra HD, GPU? Who needs freakin disks anyway. I'd much prefer dual gpus in ATI crossfire (or maybe just a one bigger one) than blu-ray.
Much more apple thing to do imo, removable disks are just a waste of space.
Yes, I would love it as an option. I see what you are saying as I don't use disks for anything BUT movies. And I can honestly say that I would not be watching them on there all day but I guess the main reason I want it is because I feel that Apple is lagging behind and I don't want something outdated as soon as it ships... I know this is technology but its different with an optical drive.
Rodus
Jan 24, 2010, 01:29 PM
Blu Ray would look great on the 27" and a lot of people are screaming for it. Apple are going to ignore them as they want everyone to get their content from the iTunes store.
racer1441
Jan 24, 2010, 01:32 PM
Honestly, people, I am the most easy-going guy ever. I never come on here acting like a hardass or being a jerk or a smartass, but now I feel like one because you come on here with your stupid comments.
I came in here stating what I wish the product had and complaining (as we all do) about it not being so. Then I get comments like "the OP needs a reality check" and the one by rdowns up there. Just chill out and your meaningless jerk-off comments are not necessary. If you want to tell me why it's pointless to have blu-ray in a mac, fine. But don't be stupid.
Are you new to the internet or something?
iPhysicist
Jan 24, 2010, 01:39 PM
Your funny. FOR SURE Blu-Ray would be very nice, but you have to keep in mind that there are to much threads regarding this topic - and now you come up and start a new one. You too know that :apple: does not want Blu Ray to **** up their I Tunes Store sales of videos and of what future brings.
And if Blu Ray then it comes to the Pros first - that of course you knew too.
Your way of "leading" the discussion is more than ridiculous that is why you only get that few resonance on you topic. Behave! :p and it will be better.
TSX
Jan 24, 2010, 01:52 PM
If you played a blu Ray on the new 27" iMac, it would be a yellow Ray.
ByteHawk
Jan 24, 2010, 01:56 PM
I asked my reseller for an update on my order
he told me a few week ago he wouldnt order/receive any more imacs until Apple fix the heat and yellow issue
friday he mailed me back that Apple would release the revised units on monday and he would get his first delivery by next friday.
I guess we ll see if hes right or if hes just stalling and doesnt really know diddly squat.
NoSmokingBandit
Jan 24, 2010, 02:01 PM
If you played a blu Ray on the new 27" iMac, it would be a yellow Ray.
lol.
I would love to see blu-ray on the new iMacs, but Steve would rather have you buy crap 720p videos on iTunes so Apple makes more money instead of delivering a better user experience for the user. It all comes down to money, and thats more important than making a better computer for the customer.
Bitwise
Jan 24, 2010, 02:09 PM
If you played a blu Ray on the new 27" iMac, it would be a yellow Ray.
Snap! :D
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 02:25 PM
Are you new to the internet or something?
No. But I get what you mean by your comment. It's just that it blows my mind how people respond when it's so unncessary. Then when you stand your ground or "prove them wrong" they WILL find something ELSE to start talking about against you. I know how Britney Spears, damn. It's not that my feelings are hurt or anything, lol. But it's just.. completely pointless. I figured people in these forums would have a little more class. Normally I don't give a damn what people say or think, something just ticked today. I guess work is stressfull today. Life in the ER.... ugh.
If you played a blu Ray on the new 27" iMac, it would be a yellow Ray.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!
Buzz Bumble
Jan 24, 2010, 02:28 PM
But why!?
Because Blu-ray is already "obsolete" ... 3D Blu-ray is coming later this year. :)
pionata
Jan 24, 2010, 02:31 PM
There is a simple reason for why the iMac is so cheap;
Blue ray drives are more expensive, even more with with slot-load.
300-400$
Considering Apple would charge you 500$ for it, it would make their nice 2000$ top of the line iMac cost 2500$, a price which is much less attractive for the customer.
Of course as an option it's interesting, the screen is beautiful.
Personally, I don't really care for it, I really don't have time to waste watching movies and most bluerays movies are still the usual Hollywood crap anyway - not much repertory cinema movies in blue ray yet.
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 02:36 PM
There is a simple reason for why the iMac is so cheap;
Blue ray drives are more expensive, even more with with slot-load.
300-400$
http://www.logicsupply.com/products/uj_135_a
This Slot-load BR drive is only $199 and I'm sure that if Apple ordered in bulk they would be MUCH cheaper. I really think they should include this as an option. The more research I do the more frusterated I get. I just don't understand :apple:, I just don't understand.
BTW: that was the first thing that came up when I googled "cheap slot load blu ray" so I'm sure if I dug a little deaper I would find one cheaper.
This is a VERY sleek external from Dell for $199. How can they limit it to that series though?? http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=313-7799&dgc=SS&cid=27530&lid=627063
Maserati7200
Jan 24, 2010, 02:44 PM
I doubt they're getting delayed because of that, they're getting delayed because of the problems people are experiencing. I hope the Rev B 27 iMac has Blu Ray. Rev B should be here in the Spring.
pionata
Jan 24, 2010, 02:50 PM
http://www.logicsupply.com/products/uj_135_a
This Slot-load BR drive is only $199 and I'm sure that if Apple ordered in bulk they would be MUCH cheaper. I really think they should include this as an option. The more research I do the more frusterated I get. I just don't understand :apple:, I just don't understand.
BTW: that was the first thing that came up when I googled "cheap slot load blu ray" so I'm sure if I dug a little deaper I would find one cheaper.
This is a VERY sleek external from Dell for $199. How can they limit it to that series though?? http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=313-7799&dgc=SS&cid=27530&lid=627063
It would not be cheaper for us... Just look at apple's ram price.
They would certainly take their cut on it.
Through, even if it's only 200$, that's about 4 times more than the current drive. It's not good business to sell half a million computer for the same price with a drive 4 times more expensive. It could only be an option (and should).
iMJustAGuy
Jan 24, 2010, 02:53 PM
It would not be cheaper for us... Just look at apple's ram price.
They would certainly take their cut on it.
They have gotten better, though. The current 8GB RAM upgrade is only about $75 more than what you can get aftermarket. And with my purchase here soon, I'm pretty tempted to let them upgrade it for me just so it's "pure Apple". :rolleyes:
Stan Mikulenka
Jan 24, 2010, 05:34 PM
Maybe Mac doesn't have it because of this, as Bruce Schneier says in one of his articles:
"Windows Vista includes an array of "features" that you don't want. They'll make your computer less stable and run slower. And these features won't do anything useful. In fact, they're working against you. They're digital rights management (DRM) features built into Vista.
Microsoft has reworked a lot of the core operating system to add copy protection technology for new media formats like HD DVD and Blu-ray disks. Certain high-quality output paths -- audio and video -- are reserved for protected peripheral devices. Sometimes output quality is artificially degraded; sometimes output is prevented entirely."
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