View Full Version : HIS IcedQ 4+ HD 4870 Flash Help
imrtstc
Jan 27, 2010, 01:57 PM
I have a Mac Pro 1,1 and want to flash my HIS Radon HD 4870 card. has anyone done one and can you help me or point me to where? see alot of 4870 cards but havent seen an IcedQ4+ flashed yet.
Cindori
Jan 27, 2010, 02:19 PM
use the topic
imrtstc
Jan 27, 2010, 03:33 PM
you lost me...topic?
imrtstc
Jan 27, 2010, 04:42 PM
ive searched and found nothing about the icedQ version. so i dont know what rom to use. please just point me in the direction. ill gladly donate.
Thank you
Cindori
Jan 27, 2010, 04:54 PM
the big topic is here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=661681
but ur right, no rom for that card.
i'll make you a rom if you give me a copy. you can save your rom with GPU-Z in windows.
imrtstc
Jan 27, 2010, 05:09 PM
you got it just tell me what to do cuz im scared as hell and i dont want to screw it up. tell me how i give you a copy also. you can do it here or email me. thanks so much.
Cindori
Jan 27, 2010, 05:37 PM
click green arrow button here
http://cache.filehippo.com/img/ex/1121__gpuz1.png
imrtstc
Jan 27, 2010, 05:58 PM
what green arrow button?
imrtstc
Jan 27, 2010, 06:06 PM
gpu-z not reading my card in parallels
imrtstc
Jan 27, 2010, 06:25 PM
mac not reading card either. in slot 1.
nanofrog
Jan 27, 2010, 09:24 PM
mac not reading card either. in slot 1.
Boot natively into Windows rather than attempting it via VM. It's the only way to get the card to launch, as it currently contains BIOS based firmware.
imrtstc
Jan 27, 2010, 09:40 PM
i only have parallels dont have bootcamp set up. ALSO, when you feed the power off the cd drive power do you only use one set of the powercables on the video card? my card has two ports for powercables. if i plug one side in and one off the other side i get a kernel panic. here i thought all frickin ati radeon cards were the same. frustrating.
nanofrog
Jan 27, 2010, 10:04 PM
i only have parallels dont have bootcamp set up. ALSO, when you feed the power off the cd drive power do you only use one set of the powercables on the video card? my card has two ports for powercables. if i plug one side in and one off the other side i get a kernel panic. here i thought all frickin ati radeon cards were the same. frustrating.
You'll want to go ahead and do a native installation of Windows.
As per powering the card, you need both connectors to have power. To do that, get a pair of power cables that attach to the logic board (here (http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3280778), you need 2x) rather than take it off the Molex connector, as you run the risk of trying to draw too much power from it. That can kill the PSU :eek:, and they have a habit of taking other items with them, such as the logic board, CPU's, and RAM. :(
MacRumorUser
Jan 28, 2010, 04:42 AM
i only have parallels dont have bootcamp set up. ALSO, when you feed the power off the cd drive power do you only use one set of the powercables on the video card? my card has two ports for powercables. if i plug one side in and one off the other side i get a kernel panic. here i thought all frickin ati radeon cards were the same. frustrating.
1. Forget Parallels. IT WONT WORK. Your going to have to install bootcamp or use another PC.
2. What happened to basic common sense ? It has two power cable ports. It kernel panics when only one is being used. Come on. Of course you need to use the two :rolleyes: It's not frustrating, it's your ignorance. You should research before jumping straight in, if you are unsure of how deep the water is.
imrtstc
Jan 28, 2010, 08:51 AM
it doesnt kp when one is used. i only did what was shown on this forum. why dont you help out a person in need and show them what needs to be done instead of critisize me? you had to start somewhere too right? Heres where i start. Thank you.
bozz2006
Jan 28, 2010, 09:28 AM
macrumoruser was a little severe in his answer, but it's more than likely because of the fact that the type of question you asked has been asked on here literally hundreds of times. There is a very long and comprehensive thread on here about how to flash your card, and when you're done reading that you will almost certainly know what to do and how to do it. If you had read through that thread you would know that you need to use both power connectors and that you should use the power connectors on the logicboard. Cindori said he'll help you out by making a ROM for you, so there you go.
imrtstc
Jan 28, 2010, 09:49 AM
Wonderful, Thank you. i just hadn't seen anything on the HIS IcedQ 4+ thats all. There are two power options that i have seen and i dont have the 2 cables yet so i opted for the drive power. i dont know if all cards come with 2 power outlets or not. If i cant find it i ask..i search, im not lazy. show me the link where it has info about the iced q4 and i will gladly change my name to idiot.
I am loading up bootcamp and getting the correct cords. all i need is the ROM. Im just being cautious cuz i dont want a brick.
Cindori
Jan 28, 2010, 11:22 AM
a 4870 is a 4870. this "icedQ 4+HD" crap just means that it has some special plastic feature like a special fan.
it could be called Super Omega Galaxy 2+2=4 Edition and be sold by the emperor of china,
does not change the fact that its still a 4870 and all the info in the 4870 thread is compatible.
imrtstc
Jan 28, 2010, 11:59 AM
So i can use the flash tool? what rom? do i still need bootcamp? im tryin man.
Cindori
Jan 28, 2010, 12:13 PM
if you don't have apple ati cards then yes.
but ofc I still need your rom.
Spacedust
Jan 28, 2010, 01:12 PM
I got HIS HD4870, but the normal edition with small fan and blue PCB.
Flashed without any problems. Look at my posts, ROM should be somewhere.
imrtstc
Jan 28, 2010, 05:15 PM
ok..We got bootcamp and windows 7 installed. heres what i got. where do we go from here.
Cindori
Jan 29, 2010, 01:28 AM
Read #7
imrtstc
Jan 29, 2010, 08:50 AM
that doesnt work with windows 7
Cindori
Jan 29, 2010, 08:53 AM
yes it does? :S
Mackilroy
Jan 29, 2010, 09:06 AM
Indeed it does, I have Windows 7 and I dumped my ROM with GPU-Z.
imrtstc
Jan 29, 2010, 09:12 AM
yes it does indeed. were gettin there.
imrtstc
Jan 29, 2010, 11:25 AM
if you don't have apple ati cards then yes.
but ofc I still need your rom.
what do i need to do to get you the rom?
Cindori
Jan 29, 2010, 11:44 AM
save it with gpuz and upload here.......
imrtstc
Jan 29, 2010, 12:02 PM
this what you need?
Cindori
Jan 29, 2010, 12:06 PM
Lal.
click green arrow button here
http://cache.filehippo.com/img/ex/1121__gpuz1.png
Read above post
http://piclair.com/data/hw76i.jpg (http://piclair.com/hw76i)
imrtstc
Jan 29, 2010, 12:43 PM
ok. this work? I really am grateful for all your help. sorry that im an idiot to this.
Cindori
Jan 29, 2010, 12:46 PM
its OK.
i will make rom for you TOMORROW.
1 question, what is the Mac card you have now in the computer? a Nvidia or ATI ?
imrtstc
Jan 29, 2010, 12:49 PM
nvidia 7300 in slot 1 and ati in slot 3. thanks again.
Cindori
Jan 29, 2010, 12:57 PM
good. when I have made the rom, you will use my tool in my Signature to flash the card with the rom.
//im out for the night
imrtstc
Feb 1, 2010, 10:13 AM
any problems? is it a good card?
Cindori
Feb 1, 2010, 10:44 AM
been busy, maybe do it tonight
imrtstc
Feb 1, 2010, 01:58 PM
waitin on you. you da man.
imrtstc
Feb 2, 2010, 01:10 PM
im excited. what should i expect as far as graphics and using cad programs?
imrtstc
Feb 2, 2010, 01:10 PM
im into motion graphics and solidworks.
Cindori
Feb 2, 2010, 03:57 PM
hmmm rom starts with 55 AA 7F, im not sure how to modify it
imrtstc
Feb 2, 2010, 05:09 PM
Aaaaaahhhhrrrrrrrrgghhhh!
imrtstc
Feb 2, 2010, 07:13 PM
You Can Do It Man!
The Rominator
Feb 2, 2010, 07:23 PM
Try this
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 10:13 AM
ok, my card never shows up in my system on the mac side...only my 7300. but when i boot up windows it works...so, i used the rom and flash tool on mac side...still doesnt show up. my 7300 in slot 1 and 4870 in slot 3. did i do something wrong? used the rom from the rominator. i am looking at all threads for guidance...am i missing the obvious?
Cindori
Feb 3, 2010, 10:36 AM
some cards don't work to flash in osx, you have to make bootcd
http://web.me.com/jacobcroft/4870Flash/4870Flash.html
The Rominator
Feb 3, 2010, 10:38 AM
Can you verify that anything changed after you used the flash?
I have been testing the flash app for Cindori but I have been having trouble verifying that it actually is working in my setup.
perhaps try flashing in WIndows or DOS.
At very least...re-dump in GPU-Z and see if it has new rom on it.
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 12:38 PM
ok, looks like nothings changed since the flash on mac side. made ultra bood disk like it says nd when i goto boot from cd it says cant read kernel linux system ...something like that.
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 12:53 PM
cannot find kernel image linux
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 01:30 PM
it doesnt show up on mac side. cant get it to boot, and i dont see my card in the injector....any other ideas?
The Rominator
Feb 3, 2010, 01:37 PM
Dude, if you want help you need to be a little more articulate.
Have you flashed it with ROM I wrote?
WHy were you monkeying with Linux when it needs to be flashed in DOS or Windows?
WHat ROM is on it now?
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 01:51 PM
i flashed it with your rom. nothing happened. i read to make a boot disk with ultra boot. did what that said and rebooted to cd...and thats the error that shows up. all my mac see's is the 7300 card, but windows see's both. i didnt monkey with nothin.
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 01:54 PM
looks like same rom as beginning
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 02:27 PM
ISOLINUX 3.35 2007-01-28
Could not find Kernel image:linux
boot:_
i get this everytime i try to boot off boot cd.
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 02:32 PM
if the card doesnt show up on mac side can it still flash?
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 02:33 PM
using the flash tool that is...
imrtstc
Feb 3, 2010, 04:24 PM
bootcd dont work. any other ideas. im searchin..
imrtstc
Feb 4, 2010, 09:40 AM
thank you all for the help. it is working now. i guess i had to take a step back.
now what do we do?
The Rominator
Feb 4, 2010, 10:47 AM
thank you all for the help. it is working now.
Here is what I mean by needing to be "more articulate" when asking for help.
What is "working now"?
The 4870?
The BootCD?
Your toaster?
If you can not be bothered to type a few extra words to explain your situation, why should we bother to type anything to help?
Good luck. I hope the card works out for you.
Cindori
Feb 4, 2010, 10:51 AM
thanks rommy, cba to write that :p
MacRumorUser
Feb 4, 2010, 11:30 AM
macrumoruser was a little severe in his answer...
Reading the last page and a half of posts I think my severity was more than justified..... ;)
looks like same rom as beginning
ISOLINUX 3.35 2007-01-28
Could not find Kernel image:linux
boot:_
i get this everytime i try to boot off boot cd.
if the card doesnt show up on mac side can it still flash?
using the flash tool that is...
bootcd dont work. any other ideas. im searchin..
thank you all for the help. it is working now. i guess i had to take a step back.
now what do we do?
Hello this is MacRumors:forums. I think you may be trying to access your twitter account instead.
Here is what I mean by needing to be "more articulate" when asking for help.
What is "working now"?
The 4870?
The BootCD?
Your toaster?
If you can not be bothered to type a few extra words to explain your situation, why should we bother to type anything to help?
Good luck. I hope the card works out for you.
The Rominator is right. It is impossible to provide a solution to an issue anyone is having if we are not presented with all the facts. You know what you are doing (well debatable) but we do not, and therefore you have to clearly outline the steps you are taking, especially when what your doing is not working.
imrtstc
Feb 4, 2010, 11:31 AM
ha. your right. the card works now. i used the ati flash tool. i followed the ati directions from here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=713428. Itried them both yesterday but i must have done something out of order. I redid it this morning and sure enough the card showed up in the mac. It only has one DVI port so i dont know if the VGA or the HMDI port work yet. The ROM from the Rominator works. I will keep you up to date and do my part to help also. Oh, my toaster works as well.
Fiete5401
Feb 4, 2010, 11:48 AM
This thread is kinda funny! ;)
bozz2006
Feb 4, 2010, 11:53 AM
Reading the last page and a half of posts I think my severity was more than justified..... ;)
Yeah, hindsight's 20/20. :D
imrtstc
Feb 4, 2010, 11:55 AM
thank you for taking the time to tell me that im not worth your time MacRumorUser.
imrtstc
Feb 4, 2010, 12:00 PM
but if all else, people can now flash a ICEQ 4+ HD 4870. If it was easy i wouldnt have needed help. Now, who wants to help me with an external raid?
bozz2006
Feb 4, 2010, 01:13 PM
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imrtstc
Feb 12, 2010, 07:01 PM
ok, funny thing. i have assasins creed for mac on my macbook pro and i can see all the graphics..not the best but they show. when i go to play it on my mac pro with the new videocard in all i get is a white screen. i can hear the sound but just a whie screen. anybody got an idea?
Cindori
Feb 12, 2010, 07:36 PM
you're using a cider port with a wrapper, they dont work well with ati cards
check tpb comments for it
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