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arn
Jul 30, 2002, 02:42 PM
Newsfactor (http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/18805.html) clarifies some misrepresentation of the previous article regarding Star Office (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/07/20020727015305.shtml):

As it turned out, the story was based on a misunderstanding. Sun Microsystems spokesperson Marie Domingo confirmed on Monday that the Sun-Apple collaboration actually took place before Sun decided to release the source code for StarOffice, and that Sun's current plans for a Mac version are focused on OpenOffice rather than StarOffice.


OpenOffice.org (http://www.openoffice.org) has an OS X Developer Build for OpenOffice available.

jadam
Jul 30, 2002, 04:53 PM
HAHAHAH KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! got to try this out!!!!

blackpeter
Jul 30, 2002, 06:31 PM
Yeah. I'd like to know if anyone else has tried out OpenOffice?

EddieB
Jul 30, 2002, 06:36 PM
Yeah I tried open office for X11(build 638), it had a GUI installer(I think made by install anywhere), when it tried to install it said I needed Freetype-1.3.1, so I went and downloaded it, and installed it(I thinkt hat also had a graphical install). But then when I tried to install Open Office again it told me to do the same thing, so I restarted, and it still did the same thing, I tried it with X11 open, and it still said I needed the same thing. I know it's not because I have an Old copy of X11, because I updated to 4.2 right before I tried to install OpenOffice, so then I just gave up.
Anyone have a way to fix this, or anyone else experiencing this?

seven5
Jul 30, 2002, 06:58 PM
I'm a big fan of Sun, but if they want to port Open Office, then they need to port it to aqua. Not make some darwin compatible version that runs under x11.

I tried this out and it needs some major help. I dont' mind running xChat under xDarwin, but not an office suite. I have yet to even SEE the 'word' app run, it crashes xDarwin every time. And the app launchers are applescripts. If this is the route they are going to take, its pretty sore. I dont see how the approach they are taking will ever get better or turn into a native app.

Maybe i'm missing something here.

kreinm
Jul 30, 2002, 07:19 PM
Mommmmy!!! It looks like Microsoft!!! :eek:

:D

Echoing the other messages, Yes Virginia, we need and want an Aqua (and quartz) based OpenOffice X. This is a difficult task indeed, but with several Apple and several Sun employees working on the project (along with the rest of the open source gang) the project should come along nicely. I assume that Apple and Sun will work together on the Aqua part (ie-no open source---Aqua is THE user interface and Apple is very sensitive about its look and feel)

Actually, with some prettier widgets, and a more hidden X-Windowing system, OpenOffice is acutally good and decent right now.

AntAllan
Jul 31, 2002, 11:53 AM
If OpenOffice for Mac OS X is Aqua-fied (which OpenOffice.org says it will be), will it still be open-source (since Aqua is proprietary)? Or will Apple take ownership of the Aqua product and package it as another one of its (free) iApps? (With the X11 version remaining open; cf. the relationship between Darwin and Max OS X.)

If iOffice is bundled with future releases of Mac OS X, this would greatly improve the Mac's value-proposition, and make it easier for SMBs as well as consumers to switch.

luisrocha
Jul 31, 2002, 01:39 PM
You guys seems to have misunderstood how the open source thing works. If OpenOffice is aquafied, it does not mean you are going to get the code for aqua; it means it USES the aqua API. It's like when you get the source code for a Windows program. You don't need the Windows code, you just need to compile, and whichever dependencies it may have. So there would not be a need for two versions. And Apple cannot appropriate it, since it's open source. The only source code Apple would not have to release is anything that is registered to them (i.e. QuickTime, AppleTalk, etc.)

Hope that helps.

OSeXy!
Jul 31, 2002, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by tfaz1
Yeah. I'd like to know if anyone else has tried out OpenOffice?

...Or StarOffice, for that matter. I guess if OpenOffice works well, we might see a version of StarOffice eventually. From the (StarOffice) website it looks like it can literally give M$Office a run for the money. Anyone know if StarOffice's claim to be compatible with M$Office files is true in practice?

AntAllan
Aug 1, 2002, 03:52 AM
luisrocha - good catch. I guess it would no more belong to Apple than any other third-party app.

Still, I think Apple would benefit from being able to offer a Cocoa office suite rather than the Carbon AppleWorks. But it would be bad if Apple forked OpenOffice development to achieve this.

What could Apple bring to an iOffice version over and above a community Aquafied OpenOffice for Mac OS X?

stromie952
Aug 6, 2002, 11:07 PM
It appears that there is progress on aquification of Open Office.

Here is a link to some pictures that show how far along they are.

Looks good so far.

http://www.dashboardbuddha.com/OOo/first_aqua.html

Mighty Mac
Aug 7, 2002, 07:12 AM
Star office can read all MS Office files macros and functions work wonderfully on both. I used version 5 on a Red Hat box. Looks and feels much like MS Office. The only app that did not miror MS version was the Database aplication. I have tried to install the open office version but ran into aome of the same problems that others have already listed.