Just wondering if anyone has hard any talk of Xcode itself (perhaps in a simplified form) coming to the iPad to allow mobile development/testing completely self contained within the device itself?
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Unfortunately that link is redirecting to the devforums start page with a login link. the login link is then just redirecting back to the start page.
Would you be so kind as to summarise?
Would you be so kind as to summarise?
Uhh, it runs iPhone OS. OS X is short for Mac OS X.
Oh, you know what I meant
.And isn't OS X technically a shortened version of both? Thought I read somewhere that they're just calling both OS X. So OS X for iPhone and OS X for Macintosh :O.
Oh, you know what I meant
And isn't OS X technically a shortened version of both? Thought I read somewhere that they're just calling both OS X. So OS X for iPhone and OS X for Macintosh :O.
No, the X is specific to the Mac OS. There is no 'X' in the official name of iPhone OS.
I wouldn't expect to see it anytime soon, but eventually it'll happen...when iPhone OS (which needs renaming) replaces "desktop" OS X. Technically, it doesn't seem there's any reason why it couldn't happen, and be usable too (whether it's ideal is another matter). But for now it definitely seems to go against what Apple is trying to establish the iPad as being, a simplified consumer device meant for consuming instead of producing. Still, they did port iWork (seemingly pretty well) and certainly many third-party apps will find ways to make the iPad quite productive, so who knows. I would love to have Xcode on an iPad, maybe not as my primary development environment, but as a secondary one it'd be great.
Well thanks to dejo I can finally get into the developer forums... Despite being a registered iPhone developer and all privileges it affords I have been unable to get into the developer forums via the iPhone dev site. Thankfully the link he posted has gotten me around whatever bug is causing the perpetual looping on the login page.
Thanks dejo
Thanks dejo
Steve Jobs, when introducing the original iPhone, stated that it runs "Mac OS," creating rampant speculation on exactly what he meant. Since then, "Mac OS X" seems to refer to the computer (desktop and laptop) OS, with "Mac OS" being regulated to the iPod touch, iPhone, and now the iPad.
In this case, Wikipedia is wrong. Download the original iPhone announcement to verify the above, but I'd rather listen to Steve Jobs than depend on someone creating a Wikipedia entry. To my knowledge, neither Steve Jobs or Apple has ever referenced iPhone OS as either OS X or OS X iPhone. Not even on the developer's site is it referenced as such.
At a D: All Things Digital conference, Steve Jobs was quoted as saying "It's real Safari, real OS X."
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This was way before the SDK was released and, I think, by that time it had become known simply as iPhone OS.
No, he didn't. He stated it ran "OSX". The "Mac" part is what distinguished it from the desktop OS.
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/mwsf07/
8:37 in.
Facts, checked
No, he didn't. He stated it ran "OSX". The "Mac" part is what distinguished it from the desktop OS.
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/mwsf07/
8:37 in.
Facts, checked
That's not possible, as he didn't even begin to speak about the iPhone until almost 28 minutes into the keynote. I don't have speakers on this computer here at work, but I'll take another listen to it and extract out only that comment and post a link to the snippet tonight, after I get home. I distinctly remember the "Mac OS" comment and the subsequent internet question of what exactly that entailed.
It's in the "Watch iPhone Introduction" movie, not the "Watch the Keynote Address" movie.
"... Software that's at least five years ahead of what's on any other phone. Now how do we do this? Well, we start with a strong foundation. IPhone runs Oh Ess Ten. <applause> Now why would we wanna run such a sophisticated operating system on a mobile device? Well, because it's got everything we need. ..."
That same quote can be found starting at around the 34:51 mark of the keynote video.
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Thanks for the replies. I stand corrected, and do humbly beg your forgiveness. My memory is somewhat fuzzy, but Steve Jobs said "OS X", not "Mac OS X," which caused the OS questions I referenced. That being said, I haven't seen it referenced as "OS X iPhone" anywhere.
Actually I head another interesting rumor today on the iPhone Live podcast. They are thinking that the iPhone OS will eventually make its way to the desktop, although I don't see how that would work, unless they did a complete rewrite of the iTunes app. That would make it very interesting, as Apple would have to provide for direct read and write to the iTunes app. Anyway, I'm just throwing it out there - it's a rumor from a podcast.
Once again, thanks for the replies. I was wrong in my earlier recollection and appreciate the replies with correction.
Thanks for the replies. I stand corrected, and do humbly beg your forgiveness. My memory is somewhat fuzzy, but Steve Jobs said "OS X", not "Mac OS X," which caused the OS questions I referenced. That being said, I haven't seen it referenced as "OS X iPhone" anywhere.
Actually I head another interesting rumor today on the iPhone Live podcast. They are thinking that the iPhone OS will eventually make its way to the desktop, although I don't see how that would work, unless they did a complete rewrite of the iTunes app. That would make it very interesting, as Apple would have to provide for direct read and write to the iTunes app. Anyway, I'm just throwing it out there - it's a rumor from a podcast.
Once again, thanks for the replies. I was wrong in my earlier recollection and appreciate the replies with correction.
iPhone OS is not going to run on the desktop anymore than Mac OSX is not going to run on an iPhone/iPad.
Yes, you can quote me on that.
Yes, you can quote me on that.
As a developer who looks at the OS from the inside, from the APIs, one can see parts of the mobile/iPhone OS X technology migrating to the desktop OS X, and vice versa. The "guts" are becoming very similar, with the main differences being the UI, and the app security policies.
Perhaps the UI layers will eventually merge, where apps have a switch to select between a mobile touch UI or a mouse/keyboard desktop UI.
Perhaps the UI layers will eventually merge, where apps have a switch to select between a mobile touch UI or a mouse/keyboard desktop UI.
I think there maybe a deference iOS and osX
Also I'm not sure about coding, but I got and app for development of UI and stuff tie them together and test I my iPad.
Also I'm not sure about coding, but I got and app for development of UI and stuff tie them together and test I my iPad.
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Not likely to ever happen. Yes, it would be neat, but what market would this appeal to? And how could this market justify the huge use of resources needed to develop the product?