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Jophster
Jan 30, 2010, 02:13 PM
Ok so... It didn't ACTAULLY make me infertile but it sure is going that way.

When I watch any kind of YouTube videos, BBC iPlayer vids or anything to do with Flash, my battery life plummets and the fan and heat soar into skin melting temps.

My CPU (According to iStat Nano) reaches as high as 83oC and my heatsink around 60oc.
Uncomfortably hot and a little noisy!

Is there anyway I can remedy this or make it a little less work for my Rev A MBA. (I am using Chrome Browser)

Ta muchly.
Joe. UK



al2o3cr
Jan 30, 2010, 02:29 PM
Ok so... It didn't ACTAULLY make me infertile but it sure is going that way.

When I watch any kind of YouTube videos, BBC iPlayer vids or anything to do with Flash, my battery life plummets and the fan and heat soar into skin melting temps.

My CPU (According to iStat Nano) reaches as high as 83oC and my heatsink around 60oc.
Uncomfortably hot and a little noisy!

Is there anyway I can remedy this or make it a little less work for my Rev A MBA. (I am using Chrome Browser)

Ta muchly.
Joe. UK

Um, not using Flash? Seriously, the Flash plugin is the biggest CPU hog I've ever seen. Just playing a 480p video on Youtube is sufficient to load a 2Ghz C2D at 50% on each core. Oddly enough, using ClickToFlash and playing the H264 HD video from Youtube takes considerably less...

Jophster
Jan 30, 2010, 02:45 PM
Um, not using Flash? Seriously, the Flash plugin is the biggest CPU hog I've ever seen. Just playing a 480p video on Youtube is sufficient to load a 2Ghz C2D at 50% on each core. Oddly enough, using ClickToFlash and playing the H264 HD video from Youtube takes considerably less...

Hi
Not really a viable solution. I work with YouTube everyday and "avoiding it" isn't really an option.
I also can't use ClickToFlash because I am using Chrome because I can't set google search in safari to use UK.

glitch44
Jan 30, 2010, 06:34 PM
switch to html5 in chrome
make sure you have the beta of the flash plugin, which is supposed to be more efficient.

LinMac
Jan 30, 2010, 08:10 PM
Flash 10.1 Prerelease is a lot more efficient than the Flash 10 or Flash 9 versions. The HTML5 Youtube option is also excellent if you use Chrome.

calderone
Jan 30, 2010, 10:12 PM
I recommend one of these:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80115790

Jophster
Jan 31, 2010, 04:48 AM
switch to html5 in chrome
make sure you have the beta of the flash plugin, which is supposed to be more efficient.

Hi
Can you give me a quick tip on how to do this?
Thanks!

Anuba
Jan 31, 2010, 07:00 AM
Ok so... It didn't ACTAULLY make me infertile but it sure is going that way.

When I watch any kind of YouTube videos, BBC iPlayer vids or anything to do with Flash, my battery life plummets and the fan and heat soar into skin melting temps.

My CPU (According to iStat Nano) reaches as high as 83oC and my heatsink around 60oc.
Uncomfortably hot and a little noisy!

Is there anyway I can remedy this or make it a little less work for my Rev A MBA. (I am using Chrome Browser)

Ta muchly.
Joe. UK
Get the Flash 10.1 beta.

10.1 is a major overhaul, they've reduced memory usage by 55% and increased rendering speed by 87%. Some guy over at Gizmodo said that after installing the 10.1 beta, the CPU load when watching Hulu videos on his Mac in fullscreen dropped by nearly 60% compared to 10.0.

I tried it on Windows and found that the fans on my laptop would no longer spin up when I watched YouTube videos in fullscreen.

Jophster
Jan 31, 2010, 07:25 AM
Get the Flash 10.1 beta.

10.1 is a major overhaul, they've reduced memory usage by 55% and increased rendering speed by 87%. Some guy over at Gizmodo said that after installing the 10.1 beta, the CPU load when watching Hulu videos on his Mac in fullscreen dropped by nearly 60% compared to 10.0.

I tried it on Windows and found that the fans on my laptop would no longer spin up when I watched YouTube videos in fullscreen.

Hmmm... interesting... I have literally done EVERYTHING...
Changed to HTML5 & Chrome, Flash 10.1, CoolBook and still finding my fan spin up to 6200RPM and temps of 80C.
Going to upgrade to a 13" MBP, fed up of this! Just waiting for the Core i5 Updates! Hurry up Apple!

ayeying
Jan 31, 2010, 03:39 PM
Hmmm... interesting... I have literally done EVERYTHING...
Changed to HTML5 & Chrome, Flash 10.1, CoolBook and still finding my fan spin up to 6200RPM and temps of 80C.
Going to upgrade to a 13" MBP, fed up of this! Just waiting for the Core i5 Updates! Hurry up Apple!

That's funny. My MacBook Air almost never goes to 6200RPM fans anymore, even in the upper 80 deg C temps. Sometimes, I want the fan to be running at 6200RPM so it doesn't burn a hole in my desk but it doesn't want to anymore.

Jophster
Feb 1, 2010, 01:26 PM
That's funny. My MacBook Air almost never goes to 6200RPM fans anymore, even in the upper 80 deg C temps. Sometimes, I want the fan to be running at 6200RPM so it doesn't burn a hole in my desk but it doesn't want to anymore.

It might be a good idea to reset the SMC. You can find details of how to do this by looking at the Apple website.

ghileman
Feb 23, 2010, 10:39 AM
switch to html5 in chrome

bump. couldn't find the chrome extension to do this (does the latest chrome beta switch automatically on youtube and sites that have html5?)

glitch44
Feb 23, 2010, 01:04 PM
bump. couldn't find the chrome extension to do this (does the latest chrome beta switch automatically on youtube and sites that have html5?)

No extension needed. You just need to opt in to html5 at youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/html5

entatlrg
Feb 23, 2010, 01:26 PM
Going to upgrade to a 13" MBP, fed up of this!

Keep in mind the 13" MBP is going to run just as hot or hotter than your MBA, they both have one fan.

Our 15" MBP runs the coolest of them all, in integrated mode that is ... gets real hot with faster graphics switched on.

phoobo
Feb 23, 2010, 01:54 PM
Keep in mind the 13" MBP is going to run just as hot or hotter than your MBA, they both have one fan.



I have not found this to be true. I have owned and returned 2 MBAs because of the overheating (and other) problems.

Now work all day on a MB aluminum unibody 13", which idles around 41-43 degrees C (CPU temp) and under Youtube load sometimes just touches 60, but generally hangs out in the 56-58 degree range when running Youtube video. An idling temperature over about 50-52 degrees is unacceptably warm for me. (Call me picky.)

The fan rarely runs up to an audible level.

I'm hypersensitive to heat and sound, so I can say pretty confidently that the best Apple solution in a 13" is the MB(P), preferably undervolted with Coolbook. (And underclocked to taste.) Outfitting with an SSD doesn't hurt, either, as it eliminates vibration (which also bugs me - I write all day long).

The reason for this difference is likely that the Air has much less heat-dissipating space inside. The unibodies have freer internal flow and better-designed venting that is harder (or nearly impossible) to block off inadvertently.

ghileman
Feb 24, 2010, 12:37 AM
No extension needed. You just need to opt in to html5 at youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/html5

beta is right. chrome works fine. but it doesn't work with safari for me. videos turn into wavy lines of green and purple.

dk152
Feb 24, 2010, 10:12 AM
Use Minitube,

http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube

Ruahrc
Feb 24, 2010, 01:16 PM
Um, not using Flash? Seriously, the Flash plugin is the biggest CPU hog I've ever seen. Just playing a 480p video on Youtube is sufficient to load a 2Ghz C2D at 50% on each core. Oddly enough, using ClickToFlash and playing the H264 HD video from Youtube takes considerably less...

How do you get Click2Flash to show HD H264 video? In my experience the only available H264 video has been a lower resolution version (probably the one encoded for the iPhone) whereas Flash offers the true HD content.

Ruahrc

mdsll
Feb 24, 2010, 01:21 PM
Also get the latest 10.1 Beta 3 which was released yesterday. Makes use of hardware acceleration, which helps:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/

(Use the uninstaller tool first to uninstall your current flash)

ayeying
Feb 24, 2010, 01:25 PM
Also get the latest 10.1 Beta 3 which was released yesterday. Makes use of hardware acceleration, which helps:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/

(Use the uninstaller tool first to uninstall your current flash)

Ahem.

Why is hardware decoding of H.264 only supported on the Windows platform?

In Flash Player 10.1, H.264 hardware acceleration is not supported under Linux and Mac OS. Linux currently lacks a developed standard API that supports H.264 hardware video decoding, and Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs. We will continue to evaluate when to support this feature on Mac and Linux platforms in future releases.

Snoball
Feb 24, 2010, 06:50 PM
Keep in mind the 13" MBP is going to run just as hot or hotter than your MBA, they both have one fan.

Our 15" MBP runs the coolest of them all, in integrated mode that is ... gets real hot with faster graphics switched on.

My 13" MBP runs as cool as a cucumber.

entatlrg
Feb 25, 2010, 10:36 PM
My 13" MBP runs as cool as a cucumber.

With you MBP on your lap ... with some webpages open, a few app's, scrolling through photo's or maybe watching a youtube video your MBP is 'cool as a cucumber'?

We've got a few 09 MBP's in our offices and I find that hard to believe ... hook them up to a 24" ACD or run VMfusion and they roar louder than the MBA's.

(This is stock MBP's I'm talking about, no Coolbook installed.)

My point is my 15" MBP takes the same load much better, runs cooler and quieter (in integrated graphics mode) than the 13" MBP by quite a margin, it's not something I expected but it is my experience ....