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Feb 1, 2010, 01:37 PM
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The Wall Street Journal reports (http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/02/01/iphone-loses-market-share-in-fourth-quarter/) on data from technology market research firm ABI Research showing that the iPhone's share of the worldwide smartphone sales market slipped in the fourth quarter of 2009 to 16.6%, down from 18.1% in the previous quarter. Despite strong performance from Apple during the quarter, the overall market grew even faster, resulting in a dip for Apple's market share.Apple's sales still grew, just not as quickly as everybody else's. Apple sold 8.7 million iPhones in the fourth quarter, which is 18% more than in the quarter before. But the overall smartphone market grew 26% in the same period of time, as Motorola Inc. introduced its first devices on Google Inc.'s Android platform and Nokia Oyj boosted its sales by 4.6 million alone.Not mentioned in the article is the fact that Apple's sales, with only a single iPhone model, tend to follow something of a cyclical pattern centered around new handset launches in June or July of each year. While Apple experienced record-high iPhone sales for the fourth quarter coming on the heels the third quarter's first full sales period for the iPhone 3GS, the margin of improvement was likely smaller than otherwise would have been if the third quarter had not had the boost of new hardware behind it. Manufacturers offering multiple models of smartphones are more likely to see more consistent performance reflecting overall industry trends as they introduce new and updated models at staggered intervals.

Article Link: iPhone's Share of Smartphone Market Slips in Fourth Quarter of 2009 (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2010/02/01/iphones-share-of-smartphone-market-slips-in-fourth-quarter-of-2009/)



bbplayer5
Feb 1, 2010, 01:40 PM
At this point, I am glad I switched to the droid. Its better than the 3Gs in pretty much every aspect except the app store.

With that said, competition is great, and I fully expect the iPhone 4G to convert me back <3 Its probably going to be amazing.

sjo
Feb 1, 2010, 01:48 PM
Not mentioned in the article is the fact that Apple's sales, with only a single iPhone model, tend to follow something of a cyclical pattern centered around new handset launches in June or July of each year. While Apple experienced record-high iPhone sales for the fourth quarter coming on the heels the third quarter's first full sales period for the iPhone 3GS, the margin of improvement was likely smaller than otherwise would have been if the third quarter had not had the boost of new hardware behind it. Manufacturers offering multiple models of smartphones are more likely to see more consistent performance reflecting overall industry trends as they introduce new and updated models at staggered intervals.


To be fair this fact gets rarely mentioned in this site when the huge success in the quarter of new model launch is reported. But it's good to remember that sort of facts when the market share slips.

gdlcjr
Feb 1, 2010, 02:08 PM
The reason for this is ppl are holding out and waiting for the new version. Once the new version comes out. You will see the sales will go up again.

View
Feb 1, 2010, 02:11 PM
I see this as a great thing for us! I switched to the Blackberry 9700 and waiting for the 4th gen iPhone. Hoping that it will be amazing, so I can go back to the iPhone :)

My iPhone 3G was just too laggy and slow, and I really didn't want to pay for the 3GS and be stuck in contract.

So, hopefully this will make Apple realize that they will need to make the 4th gen to be awesome, and again, be ahead of its competitors!

ct2k7
Feb 1, 2010, 02:33 PM
I'm on my first iPhone (1st Gen) and so far, the "updates" in the current iPhone haven't tempted me to get one.

ShiftyPig
Feb 1, 2010, 02:52 PM
The reason for this is ppl are holding out and waiting for the new version. Once the new version comes out. You will see the sales will go up again.

Actually, iPhone sales did go up from Q4 2009 (late June - late September: 7.4 million) to Q1 2010 (late September - late December: 8.7 million) The latter figure was a 100% improvement from the year before.

Apple did the best it could hope selling phones and still lost ground. Puts the Android threat into much clearer perspective.

djdole
Feb 1, 2010, 03:12 PM
You can't really use the number of iPhones Apple sold as an accurate representation of the number actually used in the hands of consumers.
Yes it's a good report for shareholders, but it's not an accurate representation of iPhones in current use.

Resellers could EASILY be purchasing phones in anticipation of greater iPhone demand (in the wake of the iPad general disappointment). These reseller purchases would register as Apple sales, but would not necessarily mean they are currently in use. The units could be sitting as unsold stock in the backrooms of said resellers.

So to be fair, that number can't really be accurately used to compare with the number of smartphones in current use.

Stella
Feb 1, 2010, 04:17 PM
iPhone down, Nokia UP!

So much for the dimise of Nokia!

NT1440
Feb 1, 2010, 04:19 PM
My prediction, Android will take most of the smartphone marketshare, because it is thrown on many devices (good and bad). Its basically Windows vs Mac round two, and we know where its going, except no one wants Winmo right now:p

OllyW
Feb 1, 2010, 04:33 PM
It's time for Apple to shorten the upgrade cycle.

Do it soon, I'm now out of contract and there's no way I'm upgrading to the 3GS knowing there's a new model on the way. :)

sjo
Feb 1, 2010, 04:58 PM
You can't really use the number of iPhones Apple sold as an accurate representation of the number actually used in the hands of consumers.
Yes it's a good report for shareholders, but it's not an accurate representation of iPhones in current use.

Resellers could EASILY be purchasing phones in anticipation of greater iPhone demand (in the wake of the iPad general disappointment). These reseller purchases would register as Apple sales, but would not necessarily mean they are currently in use. The units could be sitting as unsold stock in the backrooms of said resellers.

So to be fair, that number can't really be accurately used to compare with the number of smartphones in current use.

Apple reports the channel level during the earnings release conference call, they keep track on the devices as those move through the channel, and I believe they have pretty accurate information about how many units is sitting on the shelves and how many have been sold to consumers. The inventory level rose by about 270k units last quarter, so the number of iphones actually sold to customers was 8.43m.

str1f3
Feb 1, 2010, 05:22 PM
I'm glad this happened. OS 3.0 was an extremely lackluster upgrade for an OS that has seen no major update since then. They are even holding back 3.2 particularly for the iPad.

iPhone fans may not want to hear this but the Android upgrade cycles has been faster and has significantly better features out of the box than the iPhone though the App Store is better. I hope that 4.0 brings some real changes or the iPhone will continue to be marginalized. There is no reason for lacking multitasking because the 3GS is more than capable of handling it.

virtualemotion
Feb 1, 2010, 06:54 PM
The cycle of Apple has an impact. However Apple is missing a lot of customer by just providing the device using AT&T. All other smartphone manufacture provide different platforms via many providers.

It brings two points:
1. Apple could gain much more if it would open up its device to other network providers.
2. Apple results are impressive considering that only one provider in the USA is being chosen.

Last but not least AT&T network issues are stopping a lot of people to switch to AT&T and iPhone...

Apple has surely ground and opportunity to gain on the competitors.

OllyW
Feb 1, 2010, 07:01 PM
The cycle of Apple has an impact. However Apple is missing a lot of customer by just providing the device using AT&T. All other smartphone manufacture provide different platforms via many providers.

It brings two points:
1. Apple could gain much more if it would open up its device to other network providers.
2. Apple results are impressive considering that only one provider in the USA is being chosen.

Last but not least AT&T network issues are stopping a lot of people to switch to AT&T and iPhone...

Apple has surely ground and opportunity to gain on the competitors.

Remember these are Worldwide market share figures so AT&T problems are not such a big factor in these results.

djdole
Feb 1, 2010, 08:04 PM
Apple reports the channel level during the earnings release conference call, they keep track on the devices as those move through the channel, and I believe they have pretty accurate information about how many units is sitting on the shelves and how many have been sold to consumers. The inventory level rose by about 270k units last quarter, so the number of iphones actually sold to customers was 8.43m.

For Apple stores, sure.
Accurate information maybe, but just for Apple stores. Apple can't really reliably tell how many units are sitting on the shelves at BestBuy, At&t, Orange(France), O2(UK) etc.
There's always the possibility of phones being jailbroken, used on alternate providers and never touching the app or itunes stores. I know people who (avoiding Apple apps like the plague) have never used Mobile safari, instead have just used MyFox since they bought the phone.

snowleopard2009
Feb 1, 2010, 08:53 PM
For Apple stores, sure.
Accurate information maybe, but just for Apple stores. Apple can't really reliably tell how many units are sitting on the shelves at BestBuy, At&t, Orange(France), O2(UK) etc.
There's always the possibility of phones being jailbroken, used on alternate providers and never touching the app or itunes stores. I know people who (avoiding Apple apps like the plague) have never used Mobile safari, instead have just used MyFox since they bought the phone.

The only people that sell them are Apple Stores and AT&T Stores. They know how many are sold as of yesterday.

And there's no point jailbreaking. And people avoiding mobile Safari? Why? Not like MyFox has Flash.

I hate geeks like you that think you know everything.

JS82189
Feb 1, 2010, 09:43 PM
The only people that sell them are Apple Stores and AT&T Stores. They know how many are sold as of yesterday.

And there's no point jailbreaking. And people avoiding mobile Safari? Why? Not like MyFox has Flash.

I hate geeks like you that think you know everything.

well u sure are acting like one.. maybe once u realize theres more than one country in the world with iPhones you can come back and make a valid post

plus people will jailbreak and use it on T-Mobile, with their $5 data plan etc.. you seriously have no idea what your saying

maz94protege
Feb 1, 2010, 09:54 PM
At this point, I am glad I switched to the droid. Its better than the 3Gs in pretty much every aspect except the app store.

With that said, competition is great, and I fully expect the iPhone 4G to convert me back <3 Its probably going to be amazing.

I too switched to a Droid, I went with the eris. My iphone 3G is a great ipod touch right now. If the 4G one comes out next year I may do the upgrade again to get another iPhone to add to the collection.

Apples app store does woop the Android store hands down.

corduroygt
Feb 1, 2010, 10:59 PM
Don't forget iphones tend to be sold at premium prices or with expensive monthly contract requirements all around the world. Marketshare may be down a bit but I bet nobody makes as much profit as Apple.
Also, the US is huge and offering it on Verizon would immediately boost iphone numbers.

sjo
Feb 1, 2010, 11:21 PM
For Apple stores, sure.
Accurate information maybe, but just for Apple stores. Apple can't really reliably tell how many units are sitting on the shelves at BestBuy, At&t, Orange(France), O2(UK) etc.

As far as I know the capability for reporting the unit sales in a timely manner has been one of the requirements of Apple for the operators it allows to carry iphone.

michaellinehan
Feb 2, 2010, 01:45 AM
Don't forget iphones tend to be sold at premium prices or with expensive monthly contract requirements all around the world. Marketshare may be down a bit but I bet nobody makes as much profit as Apple.

Nicely pointed out. Raw market share numbers are a profoundly stupid thing to quote, without more detailed information. Many phones are giveaway items. Another good illustration - Microsoft has about twelve times the market share of Apple, BUT is worth only about one and a half times as much. In many business sectors, there are companies that are more profitable than competitors many times larger.

Profits mean much more than market share percentages.

nelsonx
Feb 2, 2010, 02:48 AM
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Absolutely, though profit by itself does not neccessarily create value to shareholders especially if you've invested billions in r&d / capital.

RedTomato
Feb 2, 2010, 05:49 AM
I too am starting to think about a new iPhone. I've been happy with my original 2G, (purchased here on MR) however it is nearly 3 years old.

Some UI elements have been starting to irritate me, so I jailbroke it a few months ago, which caused some new issues. (On the whole, I prefer it jailbroken, so I won't un-jailbreak it.)

If the new iPhone has a front camera, and can use 3G for webchat, I'm in there. I'd buy two - one for me and one for my partner as we want to use videochat. (without spending $1/1/minute for mobile carrier videochat)

Chupa Chupa
Feb 2, 2010, 06:29 AM
I think SJ acknowledged these numbers when he said iPhone updates would be aggressive in the future. I have a feeling Apple has been holding its fire since the original iPhone shipped until real competition emerged. Now that it's here I expect Apple to come out with guns a blazin'. Yee haw.

yg17
Feb 2, 2010, 06:41 AM
All I know is that Apple better wow me with iPhone OS 4.0/iPhone 4G or I'm jumping ship to the first Android phone for AT&T.

Stella
Feb 2, 2010, 08:48 AM
I think SJ acknowledged these numbers when he said iPhone updates would be aggressive in the future. I have a feeling Apple has been holding its fire since the original iPhone shipped until real competition emerged. Now that it's here I expect Apple to come out with guns a blazin'. Yee haw.

Sounds like microsoft.. Sat back on their lorrals and then realized they had to do something ( i.e., internet explorer ).

ddrueckhammer
Feb 2, 2010, 11:06 AM
Personally, unlike most of you guys I held out for the 3GS and honestly besides video chat and multitasking, I'm not sure what else it needs. It does everything pretty well and the app store is nice too.

I expect Apple to address the multitasking issue by releasing mobile iChat and their own streaming Internet radio app and/or streaming iTunes library app. (that's what the Lala acquisition was for...). Also, it may not happen but Google's free Navigation app will probably be released unless Apple does their own custom App.

They still won't let third party apps run in the background but these two or three new apps will fill most of the gap for what most people want multitasking for and the rest will just use save states and notifications.

It sounds like a good compromise to me but if it comes to pass expect the forums and tech writers to be all up in arms...

joeshell383
Feb 2, 2010, 12:39 PM
I'm not sure what else it needs.

iPhone Software

Phone- Show location call is coming from while phone is ringing
Use iMovie 3D maps animation to pinpoint location call is
coming from
Ability to record calls with legal disclaimers
Ability to transfer calls
Ability to change voice with legal disclaimers
Hold music/audio/clip can play when hold is pressed

Settings- On, Off, Vibrate then ring, ring then vibrate options instead
of on/off toggle
Repeating alert for missed calls
SMS custom tones

Messages- Time stamp for every message
Way to cancel outgoing messages
Emoji enabled by default
Character counter

Phone App- Way to remove individual missed calls
Way to forward voice messages
Way to save voice messages to iTunes or similar
Ability set custom voicemail recordings and ringback tones based on caller and time in app
Ability to select (custom) hold music/audio/clip based on caller

Calendar- Week view
Ability to change the calendar an event is on after it has
been created

Clock- Alarm clock mode
Ability to set different volume for alarms than music
volume (e.g. falling asleep to low volume music and have
the volume high for the alarm ringer)

Contacts- Coverflow
Album view

Lock Screen- Password or passcode options
Display name of phone
Information @ at a glance; summary

Home screen- Landscape ability (3.2...)

Notes/Mail- In C,C,P pop-up include Style, Size, Font, Color options
Dual pane mail in portrait mode

Other- Ability to turn off, stop, or freeze accelerometer
Ability to record video screencasts
Ability to screen share/remotely control other iPhones
Notification bar improvements
Notification improvements
Allowance of other apps to use iPod/headset controls
Multitasking ability based on existing dock
Glass appearance of dock
Allow custom backgrounds (coming in 3.2...)
Built in iChat
Video ringtones (that can be customized for callers/groups)

iPod- Tags
Subgenres
Synchronized Lyrics
Auto EQ based on genre
Multi-Artist support (songs can be listed under multiple artists)

iPhone Hardware

Higher MP rear-facing camera with flash and zoom
Front-facing camera
Fingerprint reader
Solar panel
Projector
Bluetooth 3.0
USB 3.0
OLED
Matte backing, color options
Indicator light(s) around home button and power button
N wireless
Faster 3G/4G/WiMax
NFC/RFID
TV tuner with app
FM/HD radio with app
FM transmitter
Wireless charging capability
Stereo speakers
IR with universal remote app

ct2k7
Feb 2, 2010, 01:25 PM
I too am starting to think about a new iPhone. I've been happy with my original 2G, (purchased here on MR) however it is nearly 3 years old.

Some UI elements have been starting to irritate me, so I jailbroke it a few months ago, which caused some new issues. (On the whole, I prefer it jailbroken, so I won't un-jailbreak it.)

If the new iPhone has a front camera, and can use 3G for webchat, I'm in there. I'd buy two - one for me and one for my partner as we want to use videochat. (without spending $1/1/minute for mobile carrier videochat)

Remind me of the days where O2 would charge me something like 2 per minute for video :(

ddrueckhammer
Feb 2, 2010, 03:46 PM
iPhone Software

Phone- Show location call is coming from while phone is ringing
Use iMovie 3D maps animation to pinpoint location call is
coming from
Ability to record calls with legal disclaimers
Ability to transfer calls
Ability to change voice with legal disclaimers
Hold music/audio/clip can play when hold is pressed

Settings- On, Off, Vibrate then ring, ring then vibrate options instead
of on/off toggle
Repeating alert for missed calls
SMS custom tones

Messages- Time stamp for every message
Way to cancel outgoing messages
Emoji enabled by default
Character counter

Phone App- Way to remove individual missed calls
Way to forward voice messages
Way to save voice messages to iTunes or similar
Ability set custom voicemail recordings and ringback tones based on caller and time in app
Ability to select (custom) hold music/audio/clip based on caller

Calendar- Week view
Ability to change the calendar an event is on after it has
been created

Clock- Alarm clock mode
Ability to set different volume for alarms than music
volume (e.g. falling asleep to low volume music and have
the volume high for the alarm ringer)

Contacts- Coverflow
Album view

Lock Screen- Password or passcode options
Display name of phone
Information @ at a glance; summary

Home screen- Landscape ability (3.2...)

Notes/Mail- In C,C,P pop-up include Style, Size, Font, Color options
Dual pane mail in portrait mode

Other- Ability to turn off, stop, or freeze accelerometer
Ability to record video screencasts
Ability to screen share/remotely control other iPhones
Notification bar improvements
Notification improvements
Allowance of other apps to use iPod/headset controls
Multitasking ability based on existing dock
Glass appearance of dock
Allow custom backgrounds (coming in 3.2...)
Built in iChat
Video ringtones (that can be customized for callers/groups)

iPod- Tags
Subgenres
Synchronized Lyrics
Auto EQ based on genre
Multi-Artist support (songs can be listed under multiple artists)

iPhone Hardware

Higher MP rear-facing camera with flash and zoom
Front-facing camera
Fingerprint reader
Solar panel
Projector
Bluetooth 3.0
USB 3.0
OLED
Matte backing, color options
Indicator light(s) around home button and power button
N wireless
Faster 3G/4G/WiMax
NFC/RFID
TV tuner with app
FM/HD radio with app
FM transmitter
Wireless charging capability
Stereo speakers
IR with universal remote app

Wow that's some list. I'm unaware of any competing phone that has all of those features although I do realize that some of them have some of those features.

We may get some of that stuff in the future but honestly if all of it were added the "feature creep" would just make the device more complicated and general users would turn to other alternatives. In other words, I don't think most users want all that complexity. Even if people who read online tech forums do...

I will say though that for sure RFIDs are coming to the iPhone if not this year then next year. I forgot about that...

charliehustle
Feb 2, 2010, 06:50 PM
My jailbroken 3GS does what I need it to do. So the only way I would purchase the new iphone would be if it had ichat available over 3G.

Anything short of it, I'm getting an android.

eplchamps0305
Feb 2, 2010, 10:46 PM
You can't really use the number of iPhones Apple sold as an accurate representation of the number actually used in the hands of consumers.
.

They didnt

chuongster
Feb 3, 2010, 01:14 AM
I love competitive prices because its good for the average consumers like us. We spend the most money on the iphone with its ridiculous data plan. So i am hoping that other phone manufacturer will continue to developed phone that could compete with the iphone too the keep prices low, because i want the new 4G Iphone too. :D

Michael CM1
Feb 3, 2010, 01:54 AM
I pray to any and all gods that joeshell is trying to be sarcastic. You throw all of that into a phone in June and you have a $1,500 phone.

USB 3: Because everybody has a USB 3 port

Bluetooth 3: I didn't know it existed before two seconds ago, and why stop with Bluetooth 4 is ready?

4G/WiMax: You want to include a battery-sucking 4G radio for a network with zero nodes on AT&T and only available in four cities on Sprint? How's this going to affect battery life?

HD radio, stereo speakers, OLED, front-facing camera, fingerprint reader, solar panels: You forgot to add a flux capacitor

rekhyt
Feb 3, 2010, 04:45 AM
I think SJ acknowledged these numbers when he said iPhone updates would be aggressive in the future. I have a feeling Apple has been holding its fire since the original iPhone shipped until real competition emerged. Now that it's here I expect Apple to come out with guns a blazin'. Yee haw.

Same with the iPad then? Many features could've been added to it too. :\

ChazUK
Feb 3, 2010, 04:10 PM
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The competition is getting stronger with every new release but I can't help feeling that Apple will have an awesome product with the next update.

I'm wondering how long all models will continue to get updates tho. Trying to cater to the older devices could hold them back but anythjng too radical in the next model could drive a wedge between the older models and the latest ones app wise.

Anuba
Feb 7, 2010, 08:01 PM
It's time for Apple to shorten the upgrade cycle.

Do it soon, I'm now out of contract and there's no way I'm upgrading to the 3GS knowing there's a new model on the way. :)
More importantly it's time for them to expand the range of models. They seem to be forgetting that fashion is much more of a factor with mobile phones than it is with computers. Some people go through 3-4 phones a year, as if they were sneakers. The iPhone is just one model, the design has barely changed -- we had the aluminum version for one year, the plastic one for one year and then an identical plastic exterior for year three. It's old hat, the charm of novelty has been totally erased -- nobody wants to see your new phone if it's an iPhone and nobody wants to see your stupid magnetometer show-off apps anymore. This of course doesn't mean ***** to those of us who outgrew that schoolyard crap decades ago, our criteria are more or less strictly utilitarian, but insecure kids who buy gadgets for the cool factor make up a surprisingly large chunk of the buyers. Apple addressed that on the iPod front by releasing tons of different models in a wide range of colors, and they updated them so fast nobody could keep up. But the iPod still got old. If Apple wants to secure more iPhone customers beyond the mature/utilitarian ones, they'd better act soon.

michaellinehan
Feb 7, 2010, 11:28 PM
"This of course doesn't mean ***** to those of us who outgrew that schoolyard crap decades ago"
Didn't outgrow the schoolyard language, though.

"If Apple wants to secure more iPhone customers beyond the mature/utilitarian ones, they'd better act soon."
"More importantly it's time for them to expand the range of models."

I'd like to suggest a little modesty in the proclamations --- some language like, "I think it would be a good idea" or "Maybe...." or "I'd like...." Especially considering how incredibly well the iPhone is doing.

Rodimus Prime
Feb 8, 2010, 03:28 PM
Apple market share slippy tell me one thing. Apple has reach its saturation point in the market. It is not really go gain much more market share and mostly its growth in units sold will be that of the pass with growth of the smart phone market.

Honestly as more players move into the smart phone market I expect apple's market share to fall as Android moves in to take some. I expect windows mobile 7 to take some market share away from apple.

Now I am not saying windows mobile 7 is better than apple but WM market share has fallen so much it can really only go one direction. RIM, Nokia and Apple all stand to loss market share as those 3 are all sitting around their saturation points.

desigarms
Feb 11, 2010, 12:20 PM
At this point, I am glad I switched to the droid. Its better than the 3Gs in pretty much every aspect except the app store.

With that said, competition is great, and I fully expect the iPhone 4G to convert me back <3 Its probably going to be amazing.

+1.. I too was a devoted iPhone 3G owner. I was initially very impressed with iTunes compatibilty, screen, user interface..etc. Over time I got sick of how Apple locks down the phone (big brother attitude). So I jailbreak the phone, etc...But..still.

I had a chance to played with the Verizon Motorola Droid and never looked back. I paid early cancellation fees and couldn't be happier with Verizon's coverage/signal strength and Android...WOW!

The ability to multi-task, run programs (reminders in the background) opens up a world of cool programs and productivity. The ability to customize the phone! External memory card, Open source, physical keyboard, design...wow! You load what you want, no need to 'ask' permission from iTunes.

With external memory card, I can backup any applicaton and/or data to the card. If the phone craps, all my data is intact. When my iphone crapped out, I have to get another iPhone and use iTunes to restore. Otherwise, my data is 'backed up' but I can't get to it!

ReyesJonathan
Feb 18, 2010, 12:31 AM
iPhone down, Nokia UP!

So much for the dimise of Nokia!

perhaps it's the other way around? :p

greygray
Feb 18, 2010, 05:01 AM
All I know is that Apple better wow me with iPhone OS 4.0/iPhone 4G or I'm jumping ship to the first Android phone for AT&T.

I may be considering jumping ship to HD2 or BB Bold 9700.

Stella
Feb 18, 2010, 07:25 AM
Apple market share slippy tell me one thing. Apple has reach its saturation point in the market. It is not really go gain much more market share and mostly its growth in units sold will be that of the pass with growth of the smart phone market.

I wouldn't call iPhone / Smartphone market saturated, Apple are constraining themselves artificially.

There's plenty of ways to get more sales:
(1) offer the phone to ALL carriers unconditionally in markets where they currently do not
(2) When you buy the iPhone outright, you get the phone sim unlocked ( currently, iPhone SIM locked ) - for frequent travellers - sim locked phone is PITA - no one wants to pay rip-off roaming charges if avoidable
(3) Create iPhone models for other GSM / 3G Frequencies ( i.e., 1700 )
(4) maybe create a CDMA version of the iPhone ( but whats the point? a very very small minority of the world actually use CDMA - and is dying due to HSPA+ )


perhaps it's the other way around? :p

Nope, review Q4 2009 smartphone marketshare statistics.

I fully expect Apple's marketshare to increase when iPhone 4 is released.

patternmedia
Feb 18, 2010, 02:29 PM
iphone has plenty of room in the market.. most people I talk to want one.. price is the issue.. this network cost comes down and a subsidized phone plan to take it to $50/month with phone (here in Canada).. right now its around $80 isn't it? Once it competes with normal phone plans combined with lowing network costs, the adoption will be massive. The price point is limiting adoption and apple can make $$$ from software so I'm sure we'll see a price drop

sinsin07
Mar 11, 2010, 06:54 PM
I pray to any and all gods that joeshell is trying to be sarcastic. You throw all of that into a phone in June and you have a $1,500 phone.

USB 3: Because everybody has a USB 3 port

Bluetooth 3: I didn't know it existed before two seconds ago, and why stop with Bluetooth 4 is ready?

4G/WiMax: You want to include a battery-sucking 4G radio for a network with zero nodes on AT&T and only available in four cities on Sprint? How's this going to affect battery life?

HD radio, stereo speakers, OLED, front-facing camera, fingerprint reader, solar panels: You forgot to add a flux capacitor

Flux capacitor LMAO. He also forgot nuclear battery to supplement the solar panel, teleportation, hadron collider, and gestures for jump to light speed.