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AngeredTree
Aug 28, 2004, 06:06 PM
Yeah, I'm a total mac user of course, but I was wondering if there was a browser I could recommend to my computer illiterate PC friends in college. Thanks.

Timelessblur
Aug 28, 2004, 06:06 PM
Firefox nough said

homerjward
Aug 28, 2004, 06:23 PM
Firefox nough said
agreed. unless it's for the pc of a person you hate, in which case ie all the way

takao
Aug 28, 2004, 06:23 PM
jop firefox

friarbayliff
Aug 28, 2004, 06:30 PM
Agreed, firefox all the way. Popup blocking is supreme and you'll easily become addicted to tabbed browsing.

yippy
Aug 28, 2004, 08:40 PM
Firefox for sure, but anything is better than IE.

~Shard~
Aug 28, 2004, 08:50 PM
Netscape Navigator rocks man. :p ;) Nah, I'd go with the crowd and recommend FireFox as well if he absolutely HAS to use a PC... ;)

Duff-Man
Aug 28, 2004, 08:52 PM
Duff-Man says...Firefox...or Mozilla (or firefox and thunderbird) if they want to ditch that virus-spreading program Outlook as well....oh yeah!

Timelessblur
Aug 28, 2004, 09:47 PM
Hey Outlook is still really good and personly I like it better than Thunderbird. It just more powerful (mind you I do use that extra power it has in it so I not giving it up but IE is just weak compared to the power of firefox)

Dr. No
Aug 28, 2004, 10:12 PM
Firefox.

Fastest browser, works great with XP, very stable

Make sure you download Macromedia Flash, though.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

kirk26
Aug 28, 2004, 10:41 PM
I've tried Firefox, but it's way too slow to open. Camino opens faster for me. Also, I have 3 rows of Bookmark toolbar favorites. Camino puts them on separate lines. Firefox only has one line. Camino gets my vote.

LeeTom
Aug 28, 2004, 10:44 PM
I've tried Firefox, but it's way too slow to open. Camino opens faster for me. Also, I have 3 rows of Bookmark toolbar favorites. Camino puts them on separate lines. Firefox only has one line. Camino gets my vote.

But seeing as how we're talking about Windows, your vote doesn't count.

Lee Tom

jsw
Aug 28, 2004, 10:46 PM
Another vote for Firefox. When you need to be on Windows, it makes it a bit more pleasant.

EJBasile
Aug 28, 2004, 10:57 PM
I just use Internet Explorer witht the Google Pop-Up Blocker. Works great for me.

kirk26
Aug 29, 2004, 12:43 AM
Firefox for Windows is the best.

FuzzyBallz
Aug 29, 2004, 01:30 AM
FireFox by mozilla.org, period. Or Mozilla if you need the newsgroup and email client. But FireFox is faster.

Abstract
Aug 29, 2004, 01:36 AM
I just use Internet Explorer witht the Google Pop-Up Blocker. Works great for me.

Great.....virus and spyware companies aim at IE and Outlook users. Good luck. ;)

Kingsnapped
Aug 29, 2004, 02:06 AM
I really enjoyed the mouse-gestures with Opera. Maybe it wouldn't be bad if people actually registered it and got rid of the advertisement.

homerjward
Aug 29, 2004, 02:24 AM
I just use Internet Explorer witht the Google Pop-Up Blocker. Works great for me.
youre askin for it man

FuzzyBallz
Aug 29, 2004, 03:19 AM
I really enjoyed the mouse-gestures with Opera. Maybe it wouldn't be bad if people actually registered it and got rid of the advertisement.
Why pay when you can get it as a free extension/plug-in with FireFox which doesn't force a huge ad in your face to begin with.

AmigoMac
Aug 29, 2004, 03:48 AM
Firefox hands down! It's amazing... we have a winner! :)

FredAkbar
Aug 29, 2004, 03:49 AM
Why pay when you can get it as a free extension/plug-in with FireFox which doesn't force a huge ad in your face to begin with.
I assume you're talking about AdBlock, and I agree, use Firefox on Windows and check out AdBlock (adblock.mozdev.org), it's pretty powerful and works really well. It's a lot better than the built-in "block all images from [domain]" contextual menu item.

Abstract
Aug 29, 2004, 04:54 AM
Um....I don't think he's talking about the adverts, but its good to know about a PithHelmet type app for Firefox as well. Thanks. ;)

He's talking about mouse gestures being available on Opera. It would be good, but no way I'd pay to use a browser unless it was THAT much better than any other browser out there today.

deral
Aug 29, 2004, 07:15 AM
internet explorer.

~Shard~
Aug 29, 2004, 10:02 AM
internet explorer.

Yikes, you're joking right? Do you also enjoy not wearing sunscreen at the beach, driving without a seatbelt and not locking your doors when you leave your home?

Darbydoggy
Aug 29, 2004, 10:35 AM
If your not sure yet........ FIREFOX is great!

etoiles
Aug 29, 2004, 11:08 AM
I really wanted to start using Firefox on the PC (w2k) at work (especially for tab browsing), but I got annoyed by pages not opening up correctly or having 'rendering errors'. I am back to IE with the google pop-up blocker. You can use Proxomitron if you want to filter out more stuff.

No problems with security/virus so far, but our system is pretty well protected (as well as you can protect PCs). But that is not my problem, we have an IT team monitoring that, so I use what is most convenient for me.

wPod
Aug 29, 2004, 11:32 AM
i would say mozilla. . . but i guess it has been a while since i really used a windows machine of my own (i use them at work but dont customize a lot of stuff for fear of the rath of my boss) so i read about this firefox and it is just a derivative of mozilla (a slightly more simple version designed for speed) so id have to recomend it with everyone else cause i know how strong mozilla is and any software that comes from mozilla.org!

EJBasile
Aug 29, 2004, 03:01 PM
Great.....virus and spyware companies aim at IE and Outlook users. Good luck. ;)


Plus I have Ad-Aware and a Virus Scanner- MacAfee or whatever

Aaon
Aug 29, 2004, 04:38 PM
Despite the security concerns, I use IE as well on my Windoze machines. I also have the google pop-up blocker bar, and Notron Antivirus. The occasional run of Spybot and Ad-Aware is also essential as well. But despite all that,I like IE more than the other browsers available for Woindoze. It works well, and I actually like the integration with the operating system, I liek being able to type a web address anywhere and having it hit the web, or accessing my c: drive at any moment by typing c: in the address bar. It works well, and has a pretty clean interface.

Aaron

Abstract
Aug 30, 2004, 08:16 AM
Then why not use MyIE2? Its pretty much IE, but better. ;)

~Shard~
Aug 30, 2004, 08:34 AM
Then why not use MyIE2? Its pretty much IE, but better. ;)

Definitely, however I think you'd be surprised by how many people have never even heard of MyIE2.... ;)

Timelessblur
Aug 30, 2004, 09:14 AM
I really wanted to start using Firefox on the PC (w2k) at work (especially for tab browsing), but I got annoyed by pages not opening up correctly or having 'rendering errors'. I am back to IE with the google pop-up blocker. You can use Proxomitron if you want to filter out more stuff.

No problems with security/virus so far, but our system is pretty well protected (as well as you can protect PCs). But that is not my problem, we have an IT team monitoring that, so I use what is most convenient for me.


Trust me it will get by it, I am pretty sure that I have the family computer pretty well protected. It blocks almost all of the stuff but a lot still gets by. A trick to get around dealing with those pages is get the extetion for firefox call IE view so when you run into one of the pages with very poor and lazy webmaster you can right click and say view in IE. IE now opens up at the exact same loction and it looks like IE.

That at least how I deal with it

kgarner
Aug 30, 2004, 11:25 AM
I use Firfox here at work. One very cool thing I have found is running Firefox off of my USB drive. This makes it possible to keep all of my bookmarks and everything the same and I can run it off of any Windows computer I come in contact with (work, school, friends, etc)

brenton
Sep 10, 2004, 01:20 PM
This is sad
Im not trying be a @$$ Or anything

But Mozilla firefox is a new company that just made a internet browsing thing just for the heck of it

I Have horror storys of firefox
It rarely works ever

thats why I say internet explorer and its made by a company ALMOST everyone knows



GO IE! :D

FuzzyBallz
Sep 10, 2004, 02:32 PM
This is sad
Im not trying be a @$$ Or anything

But Mozilla firefox is a new company that just made a internet browsing thing just for the heck of it

I Have horror storys of firefox
It rarely works ever

thats why I say internet explorer and its made by a company ALMOST everyone knows



GO IE! :D

Hahaha, shut your pie hole 'cause it's obvious you have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Mozilla.org is created by people who created Netscape, as a open source project, free of ads and junk coding like IE. So remember, if you don't know crap, shut up.

brenton
Sep 10, 2004, 02:38 PM

brenton
Sep 10, 2004, 02:40 PM
Mozilla may be good but probaly everyone here preferes it because there mostly windows haters And I can almost guarantee you that atlest 70% Of the people that have Cable have internet explorer because its made by a huge company and isnt free so Stuff that cost money is usually better
And they make IE for mac too but they also make firefox for mac buts its a nightmare with mac Sorry but Thats my opinion :)

Timelessblur
Sep 10, 2004, 03:20 PM
Mozilla may be good but probaly everyone here preferes it because there mostly windows haters And I can almost guarantee you that atlest 70% Of the people that have Cable have internet explorer because its made by a huge company and isnt free so Stuff that cost money is usually better
And they make IE for mac too but they also make firefox for mac buts its a nightmare with mac Sorry but Thats my opinion :)

Ok I going to say you are full of it. I have yet to hear a story of Firefox doing damage to a system and general I am on several other PC based forums and more active there and keep track of stuff that goes on there more. Have yet to read a post bashing firefox. Try asking the question about firefox as overclockers.com, Sharky forums hell try asking the same quiest on most heavy PC forums. You see that a lot of them choose to use firefox. IE has about hte same number but if you look at the IE knock off (MyIE2 and those) very few. But look at the other netscape browser numbers and you will noticed something. More of the educated people who know quiet abit about computer you will see they use a netscaped based browser over an IE based one.

The mac verson works ok in Pear PC (only place I have look at it) but it pretty clear that it a straight port from the windows verson not the other way

Westside guy
Sep 10, 2004, 03:50 PM
Mozilla Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/) - and here's why:

- User-selectable pop-up blocking (IE does this too as of XP Service Pack 2)
- User-selectable ad blocking
- Large community of talented people writing extensions for Firefox (http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/?application={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}) that greatly enhance its useability
- Renders pages significantly faster than Internet Explorer

I haven't had problems with Firefox displaying pages incorrectly on Windows or Linux, period. The Mac version occasionally has problems, but the developers are aware of them and working on them. If you find a page that doesn't render correctly (on Windows, MacOS, or Linux) you should report it using the excellent Bugzilla bug reporting and tracking tool (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/). If they can duplicate the bug, it will get fixed - BUT you should realize that rendering "bugs" might be due to inproper coding. (I realize some people just prefer to whine rather than take constructive steps, so this may not apply to you. :D)

Actually let's add another bullet point:

- Developers are, in large part, available to the end-user AND they listen! When has MS listened to you?

Edit: Oh, let's not forget that IE hasn't actually been developed/improved/fixed for several years, in terms of supporting newer Web standards.

brenton
Sep 10, 2004, 04:37 PM
I Think that people here prefer Mozilla because it isnt runned by microsoft and Plus The Most important reason that IE seems better is because It isnt free! Free programs usually have spyware, Not that mozilla firefox does.
Anyways, Its like macs vs pcs, Macs will never take over pcs, Sadly, But I wish they would
And Mozilla will never take over Internet explorers for these reasons

1.Internet Explorer comes on a brand new computer (Firefox doesnt and NEVER WILL)

2.More people Know about internet explorer then mozilla.

3.The mac version of IE Has less bugs then the firefox mac version

4. Everyone is entitled there own opinion

the features of firefox are nice, But In the end, There is more you can do on IE then firefox

Timelessblur
Sep 10, 2004, 05:49 PM
I Think that people here prefer Mozilla because it isnt runned by microsoft and Plus The Most important reason that IE seems better is because It isnt free! Free programs usually have spyware, Not that mozilla firefox does.
Anyways, Its like macs vs pcs, Macs will never take over pcs, Sadly, But I wish they would
And Mozilla will never take over Internet explorers for these reasons

1.Internet Explorer comes on a brand new computer (Firefox doesnt and NEVER WILL)

2.More people Know about internet explorer then mozilla.

3.The mac version of IE Has less bugs then the firefox mac version

4. Everyone is entitled there own opinion

the features of firefox are nice, But In the end, There is more you can do on IE then firefox

again you failed to even go agaist my argument. I said go to some heavy Windows PC site where there are people who know there stuff. Hell you will find a lot of mac haters there but yet they like firefox over IE. Before you ride off these blind Maccy as MS haters go check out those sites. Also I not among the blind maccy if you noticed I tend pick at the flaws. Go check out a heavy end PC site and then ask the same question here. Your answer will be Firefox or Oprea in general. You are not going to see many IE post. Hell ask them what browser they see and again you will see Firefox Oprea and IE rounding out the top 3. heck go to some gaming forums and ask the question and look at you answer you will get. Firefox yet it again.

Firefox is still a pretty new browser and it is spreading like wild fire. I first heard of it last spring when it was still a pretty new beta and it was recomend I switch. I got it a few months later when it went to 9.1 and I have never looked back. Now I see more and more computer going over to firefox and the more computer smart people are using it.
IE is a broken web browser. Those IE only sites are made by the lazy and poor web master who are consider crappy because they dont bother making there site for a large chunk of the market. Laslty IE does not work with the current web standards out there.

But you will find this instersting. Of the more educated people ;windows side you will find that it a higher % of them use a Netscaped bases broswer over an IE one. Yes IE is still the larger % base but then again most people are idoits who know nouthing and I get to speed a large chunk of time cleaning up there computers and fixing them. Pain in the rear. Every 2-3 months I come home from collage and I get to spend the first few hours or after I get home cleaning up the home computer and getting everything working on it again. It not fun but it still uses IE and sadly it not going to switch over to firefox because my mom does not want to change and she is idoit when it comes to computers and she know it.

As for the bugs considing firefox is still a BETA program it is forgiveble. It going 1.0 by the end of the year so most of bother rsome bugs will be gone.

Oh and by the way there is a lot more that you can do with Firefox than IE. Out of the box Firefox is about on the same leval as IE but once you get the common extentions that most people will tell you to get you find that it is in fact a much more powerful browswer and you can keep adding on from there.


So before you say it all MS haters go check some gaming forums or costume PC forums and see what they say.

edit: Now look at the results from that poll. And if you noticed that is from a pretty much a PC only site. IE is blown out of the water by firefox. http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=316137&page=1&highlight=firefox

Fourbin
Sep 10, 2004, 06:07 PM
Why are you even bothering debating this with brenton? His rhetoric sounds like its of a 12 year old and obviously he doesn't know anything. IE is free and Mozilla is better.

dav
Sep 10, 2004, 06:57 PM
Anyone who says IE > Firefox obviously doesn't know their stuff. Just let the kid be :p

Timelessblur
Sep 10, 2004, 08:07 PM
Why are you even bothering debating this with brenton? His rhetoric sounds like its of a 12 year old and obviously he doesn't know anything. IE is free and Mozilla is better.

I forgot about that. IE is free for everyone so MS does not really give a rats ass about it. Firefox is also free but the diffence is the devepors of firefox make there money off of people donating money or buying the cds. Plus it is open sorce so a lot of people who care about it are working hard on it

brenton
Sep 11, 2004, 11:02 AM
Ok thats cool, I didnt know that firefox was like that, does it cost any money at all? But Still Im going to use Internet Explorer because it is older and More people use it

I know some GREAT computer designers that prefer IE over firefox

There both webbrosing programs So It doesnt matter

BTW Im a month away from 13 :)

Timelessblur
Sep 11, 2004, 11:28 AM
Ok thats cool, I didnt know that firefox was like that, does it cost any money at all? But Still Im going to use Internet Explorer because it is older and More people use it

I know some GREAT computer designers that prefer IE over firefox

There both webbrosing programs So It doesnt matter

BTW Im a month away from 13 :)

Well that answer all the question right there. Firefox is 100% free. Well enjoy the spy where that goes with using IE. Since I started using firefox back in June and I had almost no spyware. The spare scanner have pick up something like 20-30 files since june. Now running IE only I would pick up 30+ items in a week. Just to give you an idea. I must say it so nice to to not have to make scanning a weekly thing to more of a monthly thing. (oh and those spyware files that I get with firefox they are all cookies compared to about everything else with IE)

Westside guy
Sep 11, 2004, 02:26 PM
You know guys, assuming the rest of you are older than 12... it's kinda silly to hassle a 12-year-old for "acting like a 12-year-old". :) There are actually a lot of kids on this forum. If you don't like what they say, argue with their statements rather than insulting them. Or just walk away.

... So says the 44-year-old dude. :D

grapes911
Sep 11, 2004, 04:56 PM
You really want to know whats up? Here is a story on MSN that says that mozilla/firefox is better than ie.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2103152/

ug.mac
Sep 12, 2004, 12:25 AM
I use Firefox as my default web browser on my Windoze system. Because it Fast and safe, with tabbed browsing feature, and also I can change its theme. :D

dav
Sep 12, 2004, 01:55 AM
I know some GREAT computer designers that prefer IE over firefox

heh, Just to let you know any web designer has to go out of his/her way to make pages look right in IE... All the hacks, etc. It quickly gets very frustrating.

Westside guy
Sep 12, 2004, 03:25 PM
heh, Just to let you know any web designer has to go out of his/her way to make pages look right in IE... All the hacks, etc. It quickly gets very frustrating.

Man, no kidding. What's really frustrating is when I've coded to a standard that MS explicitly says it supports, and then it turns out their implementation is buggy.

For a specific example: There's a property that MS actually came up with called "innerHTML" - while it's not yet a standard (it's under consideration) both Mozilla and Safari have already incorporated it because it's really handy. So I'm coding some forms using Firefox since the JavaScript console is so darn useful. Well everything works in Firefox, and it works in Safari. But I go over to IE 6 and it doesn't work as planned. IE's implementation is limited - it doesn't always work if it's used inside of a table element. MS even has a page up in their knowledgebase, explaining why it doesn't work - but the bottom line is THEY invented this property and THEY don't even fully support it as defined by themselves!

kerb
Sep 13, 2004, 07:39 AM
i use firefox on my mac, my windows and my linux machines


little tip for using firefox:

type about:config in the address bar

scroll down to network.http.pipelining and set to "true"
then set the value of the pipelining to 8 instead of the default 4


speeds it up no end basically because you are doubling the number of requests you send to a website to receive data

jdechko
Sep 13, 2004, 09:31 AM
i use firefox on my mac, my windows and my linux machines


little tip for using firefox:

type about:config in the address bar

scroll down to network.http.pipelining and set to "true"
then set the value of the pipelining to 8 instead of the default 4


speeds it up no end basically because you are doubling the number of requests you send to a website to receive data


Great tip kerb... thanks!

BTW, firefox is all i use on my XP machine

FuzzyBallz
Sep 13, 2004, 07:11 PM
For the open minded hybrid users.

Hit Me. (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2004-09-10-08-0.9/)

BTW, that tweak for FF is awesome, I can totally feel the difference.

zagato27
Sep 26, 2004, 05:43 PM
Yeah, I'm a total mac user of course, but I was wondering if there was a browser I could recommend to my computer illiterate PC friends in college. Thanks.

Well, my son is running a PC with XP. I'm using a G5 and both are on a wireless network. I'm using Mozilla and love it. Has both browser and email together and they are tight. Lots of skins and it's pretty solid. My son is using FireFox on his PC and loves it. Says that he doesn't need integrated email as he has a hotmail account. Don't think you would go wrong with either FireFox or Mozilla. If you want integrated email go with Mozilla. Browser alone, FireFox. Popup blocking works great. Cheers

grapes911
Sep 26, 2004, 06:07 PM
Well, my son is running a PC with XP. I'm using a G5 and both are on a wireless network. I'm using Mozilla and love it. Has both browser and email together and they are tight. Lots of skins and it's pretty solid. My son is using FireFox on his PC and loves it. Says that he doesn't need integrated email as he has a hotmail account. Don't think you would go wrong with either FireFox or Mozilla. If you want integrated email go with Mozilla. Browser alone, FireFox. Popup blocking works great. Cheers

I personally think firefox is a little faster. You can always get thunderbird if you need email.

Mechcozmo
Sep 26, 2004, 07:13 PM
I've got Mozilla on my PeeCee, but that is because I didn't trust the first public relase of Firefox, named Firebird at that point. IE is for updating windows...odd how that ONLY works in IE?

I use Safari on my Macs, but on an old System 8.6 Mac I use a form of Mozilla that will run. And I got my friend hooked on Firefox, who used to hate anything Apple-related or non-Microsoft. :D

And I know that I shouldn't be beating up a 13 year old kid, but cmon, even my 10 year old sister can debate better than that!

grapes911
Sep 26, 2004, 07:18 PM
I've got Mozilla on my PeeCee, but that is because I didn't trust the first public relase of Firefox, named Firebird at that point. IE is for updating windows...odd how that ONLY works in IE?

Its not really odd. Many people complain that ms integrates ie with the os. Well, one advantage to this is being able to update your computer through ie. Is it a better option that not useing a brower at all, like os x? That is debate for another time.

Timelessblur
Sep 26, 2004, 07:34 PM
I've got Mozilla on my PeeCee, but that is because I didn't trust the first public relase of Firefox, named Firebird at that point. IE is for updating windows...odd how that ONLY works in IE?

That is one point where I not going to hit MS on. I think it a perficly fine and a good idea that the make updating Windows in IE only. It much easier for MS to keep it secure and keep it safer (THe less they have to deal with the better this is MS). Plus it easier to get it to run for on there computer.

Apple way well came out of the fact that they had to update there computer but they never really had there own browser even when OSX started so they had to go about another way of keeping upto date.

Mozilla and firefox 1.0PR are pretty much the same speed for browsing the web since they both run off the exact same webbrowsing engine. Mozzilla just has other stuff ingegated into it and if you want or like it all ingrated use Mozzilla. Browser only use firefox.

Also I might like to had firefox is the 3rd name for the browser. It started out a Pheniox then move to firebird and then to firefox (both changes where due to legeal and coping right issues).

To be honest I use firefox as my main browse and I have seen 0 speed diffences bettween the 2 and that is accross 3 diffence computers ranging from brand new to 5 years old. I tend to notic the biggest limiting factor in speed is the speed of the internet conectoin

homerjward
Sep 26, 2004, 08:46 PM
ive just discovered netscape 7.2! i really like the tabbed browsing implementation (better than ff imo) and i use it for all my ftp stuff cause the dl manager's better. not to mention it has built-in irc support thru chatzilla without getting a plugin-extension. still have ff as my default tho

FuzzyBallz
Sep 26, 2004, 09:06 PM
...netscape 7.2! i really like the tabbed browsing implementation (better than ff imo)...
Better because...?

grapes911
Sep 26, 2004, 09:25 PM
ive just discovered netscape 7.2! i really like the tabbed browsing implementation (better than ff imo) and i use it for all my ftp stuff cause the dl manager's better. not to mention it has built-in irc support thru chatzilla without getting a plugin-extension. still have ff as my default tho

Netscape is built off of firefox.

Timelessblur
Sep 26, 2004, 09:42 PM
Netscape is built off of firefox.

try the other way around. Firefox is based off of netscape

homerjward
Sep 26, 2004, 10:18 PM
Better because...?
it has a new tab button on the bar for when i dont want to take my hand off the mouse, and since i dont always have a scroll wheel mouse w/ me i can ctrl+click to open a link in a new tab.

grapes911
Sep 26, 2004, 10:44 PM
try the other way around. Firefox is based off of netscape

No, I was correct with what I said. But so are you. I'll explain:
Mozilla was built off Netscape. Netscape stopped being developed directly. Instead, only Mozilla/Firefox developeds further. But how do new versions of Netscape come to being? Well, when its time for a new Netscape build, they take the code almost directly from the newest stable Mozilla/Firefox and make Netscape.

There actually is a lot more to it, but you can see that the older versions of netscape were the fathers of Mozilla/Firefox, but the newer versions of Netscape are the children of Mozilla/Firefox.

FuzzyBallz
Sep 27, 2004, 12:45 AM
it has a new tab button on the bar for when i dont want to take my hand off the mouse, and since i dont always have a scroll wheel mouse w/ me i can ctrl+click to open a link in a new tab.

For FF: View > Toolbars > Customize... drag New Tab icon to toolbar.

http://img50.exs.cx/img50/9123/Tab2.jpg

homerjward
Sep 27, 2004, 01:20 AM
For FF: View > Toolbars > Customize... drag New Tab icon to toolbar.

http://img50.exs.cx/img50/9123/Tab2.jpg
thanks, now i can go back to using ff, cause after netscape i couldnt do without that feature.