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macreator
Aug 31, 2004, 10:21 AM
With the debut of the new 2" thick iMac G5, is a PowerBook G5 closer than we think?

vraxtus
Aug 31, 2004, 10:24 AM
With the debut of the new 2" thick iMac G5, is a PowerBook G5 closer than we think?


If you like 2" thick laptops with a lot of heat to disperse!

musicpyrite
Aug 31, 2004, 10:25 AM
Yeah, fitting a G5 + display into a 2" enclosure is big. I would bet that we see G5 PowerBooks between now and MWSF or at MWSF.

dotnina
Aug 31, 2004, 12:32 PM
I personally was stunned they fit the G5 + a cooling solution into such a small form factor.

The Powerbook G5 is still going to be tough, though, because you need it to be in an even smaller enclosure while not broiling your legs.

I'd guess MWSF or very soon thereafter.

kntgsp
Aug 31, 2004, 01:14 PM
I think that the only PB with an even remote chance of getting a G5 has to be the 17" model. It's the only one with enough interior space to "maybe" fit a G5 with a cooling aparatus. Even then they'd probably have to make it 1/4" thicker at least I would think, wouldn't they?
:confused:


The 15" and the 12" bodies are just so small that I don't think they could do it without making them 2" thick like posted above :rolleyes:

Even then can you imagine a G5 17" PB, haha that would weigh a ton wouldn't it?

LeeTom
Aug 31, 2004, 01:21 PM
Lee Tom's Prediction:
Updated Powerbook G4 at MWSF
Powerbook G5 debuts at WWDC or Paris 2005.

Lee Tom

EJBasile
Aug 31, 2004, 02:04 PM
I think that probably the 2 major problems are

1) Cooling System

2) Power- Powerful processor, must take up a lot of power?

jeremy.king
Aug 31, 2004, 03:50 PM
If you like 2" thick laptops with a lot of heat to disperse!

Already have one (courtesy of my employer)

http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=-840&productId=8663944&storeId=1&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&categoryId=2580118

Notice the height and weight. I hate this POS! :mad:

redAPPLE
Aug 31, 2004, 03:55 PM
i ain't no cooling expert, but how about liquid cooling? is this big? a 1u xserve is how thick? i think someone told me the xserve is not that thick and they fitted a g5 in that. i guess adding liquid cooling might even help more.

btw, i hope they announce the pb g5 during mwsf. i need a new pb.

dotnina
Aug 31, 2004, 04:00 PM
Already have one (courtesy of my employer)

http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=-840&productId=8663944&storeId=1&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&categoryId=2580118

Notice the height and weight. I hate this POS! :mad:

Sweet heavens, that is hideous!

Kingjr3, I take pity on you. (Edit: and by the way I love your sig :))

Savage Henry
Aug 31, 2004, 04:29 PM
Already have one (courtesy of my employer)

http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=-840&productId=8663944&storeId=1&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&categoryId=2580118

Notice the height and weight. I hate this POS! :mad:

Man! our guys have those things; they are soooo funny. I'm not going near a PC lappie til they resemble something post 1987.

atari1356
Aug 31, 2004, 04:30 PM
Lee Tom's Prediction:
Updated Powerbook G4 at MWSF
Powerbook G5 debuts at WWDC or Paris 2005.

Lee Tom


I agree. There aren't going to be any G5 Powerbooks anytime soon - and the G4 may be getting a dual core, which could possibly be better than a single G5 processor in a Powerbook anyways.

Either way, I won't buy one... the 1.5GHz G4 is perfect for my needs. :)

aswitcher
Aug 31, 2004, 04:53 PM
Lee Tom's Prediction:
Updated Powerbook G4 at MWSF
Powerbook G5 debuts at WWDC or Paris 2005.

Lee Tom


I am with you.

Heat, battery life requirements (extra fans + G5 speeds), heat, trying to do more than just squeeze the G5 into the same chasis, heat

James L
Aug 31, 2004, 05:07 PM
I agree, the new iMac has little to do with the possibility of a new G5 PB. It is twice as thick, bigger in every dimension, weighs between 18.5 and 25 lbs, I would bet has multiple fans, and most importantly... doesn't have to rely on battery power!

So, if you want a PB that is 2" thick, weighs 15 or 20lbs, is poked with holes for ventilation like the xServe, and only gets 15 minutes of battery life, then I guess they are close!

:D

Incidently, I looked up the dimensions of the xServe. It is:

1.73 inches (4.4 cm) high by 17.6 inches (44.7 cm) wide by 28 inches (71.1 cm) deep
33 pounds (15.1 kg); 37 pounds (16.6 kg) with three Apple Drive Modules

Still way bigger than a PB!

Cheers,

James

vraxtus
Aug 31, 2004, 05:37 PM
From a CNet article:

Cramming a G5 into such a tight space can be seen a step toward a G5 notebook, but Joswiak cautions that it would be tougher to build the current chip into a laptop than it was to get it in an all-in-one. "The challenges of cooling a G5 in a Powerbook design are significantly greater," Joswiak said, noting that a Powerbook is less than half as thick as the new iMac, leaving far less room for cooling tricks.


Looks like it may be a while folks.

macreator
Aug 31, 2004, 05:40 PM
Although, people were saying the same things when the PowerMac G4 hit the market. "How will they get a G4 in a PowerBook?" Well, they did it. I think getting the G5 in the iMac is important. It shows that they can get the G5 in a small enclosure with minimal fan use and heat sinks.

Bobcat37
Aug 31, 2004, 07:55 PM
Lee Tom's Prediction:
Updated Powerbook G4 at MWSF
Powerbook G5 debuts at WWDC or Paris 2005.

Lee Tom

In that case I think I'll order my 12" PB now, I'm not sure when MWSF is, but unless it is in a couple of weeks, I can't wait any longer ;)

Then hopefully by the time I am ready to upgrade my PB (if need be), the G5 ones will have been available for a little while.