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arn
Aug 2, 2002, 08:23 AM
Despite various reports of build 6C115 being GM (MacRumors (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/08/20020801033845.shtml), ThinkSecret (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/jaguargm2.html), MacMinute (http://www.macminute.com/lib/020801jaggm.shtml), MacOSRumors (http://www.macosrumors.com/)), it appears that it is only the GM candidate (aka FC1)

RailHeadDesign (http://www.railheaddesign.com/) has a screenshot of the wording in the 6C115 release:

Jaguar build 6C115, the GM candidate of Mac OS X version 10.2

According to them 6C116 has already been seeded. While this is all hair-splitting at this point, the take hold messages is that it appears on time and near completion.

eyeONdoor
Aug 2, 2002, 08:39 AM
since it's gone GM so ahead of schedule, could this mean that may release "Jagwyre" earlier than Aug. 24?

gopher
Aug 2, 2002, 08:50 AM
My hope is they iron out a couple bugs on Application launching. I noticed that sometimes I launch an application, it comes up in the dock but does not change focus to the current application. That's in 6c106. Also mounting an FTP server on the desktop mounts the server, but not its subdirectories when it is a Linux server. Not to mention Mail has difficulty with subfolder importing from Entourage, the folders are there, but not their messages. Still it is sweet to have a system so fast it should be called Cheetah! The Find in the Finder feature is as thorough as many programs like Filebuddy and File Freak (without the find in archives), not to mention it is faster. I'm not complaining...this thing is going to rock. It is well worth $300 now!

ntg
Aug 2, 2002, 08:52 AM
just hypothesising, but when I rang Apple yesterday chasing delivery of my 20Gb iPod, I was told it will be delivered "starting next week [5th] and should ship sometime in the following two weeks"
This started me wondering - since it uses new Jaguar features, then is there a chance that the OS to support the iPod will be out at the same time....?

zedwards
Aug 2, 2002, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by gopher
Still it is sweet to have a system so fast it should be called Cheetah!

I think you are onto somthing...10.3?

MacArtist
Aug 2, 2002, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by ntg
just hypothesising, but when I rang Apple yesterday chasing delivery of my 20Gb iPod, I was told it will be delivered "starting next week [5th] and should ship sometime in the following two weeks"
This started me wondering - since it uses new Jaguar features, then is there a chance that the OS to support the iPod will be out at the same time....?

Not necessarily true. The 20GB iPod has features that work only with OS X 10.2, but it could still be used with OS X 10.1.x. All of the iPods are cappable of doing the same thing. They may just delay your iPod until OS X 10.2 is on the shelves.

I don't think that they'll release OS X 10.2 earlier than the 24th. I think they are going GM this early so that they can possibly ship it with the new PowerMacs rumored to be coming soon.

iN8
Aug 2, 2002, 09:16 AM
So what was the codename for 10.0. Tortoise maybe... Escargot... oh, wait, how about Three Toed Sloth:D. They all seem pretty appropriate eh. Beta is quite appropriate as well.

ntg
Aug 2, 2002, 09:24 AM
...or how about "sucker-punch", since so many of us fell for it?

eric_n_dfw
Aug 2, 2002, 09:42 AM
To many of us (myself included) OS X 10.0 (heck Developer Release 4 even) kicked OS 9's butt all over the place.

My personal codename for Rhapsody was "SWEET!"

:p

iwantanewmac
Aug 2, 2002, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
To many of us (myself included) OS X 10.0 (heck Developer Release 4 even) kicked OS 9's butt all over the place.

My personal codename for Rhapsody was "SWEET!"

:p

yeah...right.
10.0 was an impossible slow piece of crap.
(apart from it looks great)

iN8
Aug 2, 2002, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
To many of us (myself included) OS X 10.0 (heck Developer Release 4 even) kicked OS 9's butt all over the place.

My personal codename for Rhapsody was "SWEET!"

:p

You can't be talking about speed. 10.1.5 still has a little sluggishness to the interface, especially resizing windows. I am tired of seeing that spinning beach ball for the most insignificant of tasks.

As far as all the "modern OS" features and uptime hell yeah! I crash on average about 2 times daily in OS 9, mainly because I push my system to its limits.

rugby
Aug 2, 2002, 10:22 AM
My personal codename for OS X 10.0 Server was mostly *&%$#*&%#&$#*$&#*$&


Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
To many of us (myself included) OS X 10.0 (heck Developer Release 4 even) kicked OS 9's butt all over the place.

My personal codename for Rhapsody was "SWEET!"

:p

eric_n_dfw
Aug 2, 2002, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by iwantanewmac


yeah...right.
10.0 was an impossible slow piece of crap.
(apart from it looks great)
Try developing Java2 stuff on OS 9 and tell me OS X 10.0 is slower.

Like I said, some of us would say OS X 10.0 rocked. Some of you are just as right about not liking it. Yes, the GUI was slow that was not my concern. The fact that I can ssh into it from anywhere and run edit/run jsps and whatnot makes it kick OS 9's (and Windows for that matter) butt. Linux or BSD or Unix variant would be the only other solution for geeks like me.

rickey939
Aug 2, 2002, 10:44 AM
No way this is GM, it still has the famous FTP bug where it will mount the server, but NOT sub-directories....

Oh well. Keep crackin Apple, you are doing great!

StuPid QPid
Aug 2, 2002, 10:44 AM
What about "Limpet" as a code name for 10.0. They move at about an inch an hour!
Very apt for my G3 :p

eric_n_dfw
Aug 2, 2002, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by iN8


You can't be talking about speed. 10.1.5 still has a little sluggishness to the interface, especially resizing windows. I am tired of seeing that spinning beach ball for the most insignificant of tasks.

As far as all the "modern OS" features and uptime hell yeah! I crash on average about 2 times daily in OS 9, mainly because I push my system to its limits.
You're right - see my above post. Speed of the GUI is not my primary concern.

eric_n_dfw
Aug 2, 2002, 10:57 AM
The speed of the GUI and the speed of the OS, while hard for many to separate, are two separate things.

Actually, knowing what Quartz and Aqua are doing, I'm surprised that my G4/400 is as fast as it is. Heck, the thing is rendering full PDF screens in real time! (Two (in my case) on a double headed setup)

Now, when you look at non-gui related items like FCP renders and RC5 or SETI computations, especially with Dual Proc machines, OS X 10.0 is nearly as fast as OS 9. (A little slower is to be expected on a pre-emptively multitasking)

Don't get me wrong - I hate that window resizes and scrolling are DOG SLOW on my machine. (I really feel it in iPhoto when rescaling the library or sliding the image editing tools.) But for a nearly 3.5 year old machine with a $300 processor upgrade (less $$ now for a G4/400 I'm sure), I can't complain too much. My Dell laptop at work sometimes feels slugish (especially it's 5 minute boot time to a useable desktop) and it's only a year old!

eizzumdm
Aug 2, 2002, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by gopher
Still it is sweet to have a system so fast it should be called Cheetah!
Originally posted by zedwards


I think you are onto somthing...10.3?

eWeek says the next version of Mac OS X is codenamed Pinot. No more kitty cats.

iN8
Aug 2, 2002, 11:35 AM
Whats a Pinot?

iN8
Aug 2, 2002, 11:40 AM
Is it a shark with frikin laser beams attached to its head.:D

Geert
Aug 2, 2002, 11:49 AM
that sounds more like it.
I already thought it was weird that they would make c115 GM, I read that there were still some small bugs in this seed, so Final canditate 1 has more logic.

further I don't think that they will release Jaguar any sooner, since they are announcing it with a timer on their site.
It would be dumb to set a timer here (www.apple.com/macosx/), and then release it earlier.

merges
Aug 2, 2002, 12:25 PM
cheetah 10.0
puma 10.1
jaguar 10.2
pinot ??.?

eric_n_dfw
Aug 2, 2002, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by iN8
Is it a shark with frikin laser beams attached to its head.:D
:D :D :D

TypeR389
Aug 2, 2002, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by iN8
Whats a Pinot?

One defintion would be a type a grape, or types actually. The Pinot grape, most comenly the Pinot Noir (dark or purple variety) is very common in California, is highly adaptable (Sorta like OSX) and quoting a definition from a wine site:



Though unpredictable at times, the best Pinot Noirs are seductively enchanting in their intense aromatics, complex flavors and long silky textures.

As long as we take away the unpredictable part, I think we can apply a lot of this! Then again, I like the whole Shark idea as well!

:)

peterjhill
Aug 2, 2002, 03:34 PM
115 is the GM, as we will all be hearing soon, but "there are different versions of build 6c115" says official apple person in know (not me). Just heard it today during a webcast of Xserve.

Hemingray
Aug 2, 2002, 04:37 PM
Though unpredictable at times, the best Pinot Noirs are seductively enchanting in their intense aromatics, complex flavors and long silky textures.

It's..... a friggin' grape. :rolleyes:

:p I think that's just silly.

AmbitiousLemon
Aug 2, 2002, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by merges
cheetah 10.0
puma 10.1
jaguar 10.2
pinot ??.?

ah, thank you. im glad some one finally mentioned that cheetah was already used.

the thing that i miss the most from the early builds is the purple button. who remembers the purple button?

Microsoft_Windows_Hater
Aug 3, 2002, 01:56 AM
Just before writing a reply, please know that I am purchasing the retail version, and this version came from a developer friend of mine.

Well, its everything we have dreamed it would be.

I have an iBook 500 (192mb) and it is blazing fast. Everything from surfing the web, to iChat to Word is much faster. The new look is great. No bugs to report, but I have only been using it for about an hour.

Everyone will enjoy it and i will enjoy the retail version even more than this one.

Go Apple!

gopher
Aug 3, 2002, 02:02 PM
I too am purchasing the retail version. Did you notice if they fixed the issue where some applications would launch, show up in the Dock, but not come front first? Also is it possible to install over an existing Mac OS X and keep all one's preferences from an older version, or does one have to enter in a new username and password and copy all the preferences over from the old Library folder? Also can you yet ftp into a standard Linux FTP webserver? I had trouble getting in to my Linux web server further than its root directory when I did a connect to server.

8thDegreeSavage
Aug 3, 2002, 03:07 PM
You just install 6C115 right over top...no probs at all in upgrading

sweetaction
Aug 3, 2002, 07:50 PM
Got to play with Jaguar today at an Apple store (the computer store) in Seattle. So snappy even at this build. Final Cut Pro 3 opened almost instantly. I am very excited about the final release.

dazzla
Aug 4, 2002, 05:27 AM
Although 115 was indeed GM candidate 1, it has beed declared as the final GM by Apple. 115 is the build going out to shops.

phgreer
Aug 4, 2002, 05:52 AM
I'm sorry but the price went up and now I really can't afford it. I'd have to sell my house!

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=295690

Sepulchre
Aug 4, 2002, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by phgreer
I'm sorry but the price went up and now I really can't afford it. I'd have to sell my house!

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=295690

Wow, thats one heck of a price to pay for an OS :D

Sepulchre
Aug 4, 2002, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by dazzla
Although 115 was indeed GM candidate 1, it has beed declared as the final GM by Apple. 115 is the build going out to shops.

Really? Thats great, but are you completly sure of this?

PumaCode
Aug 5, 2002, 02:11 AM
I can confirm dazzla's comment Jaguar 6C115 being both GMc1 and GM.

PumaCode