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dh2005
Mar 10, 2010, 06:57 AM
Hello everyone,

Five or six weeks ago, after more than fifteen years of continuous PC-ownership, I jumped ship for a Mac Mini. Here are my thoughts; perhaps if any other people with a similar history are considering switching, they might find this of interest.


Buying it:

My first impression on walking into my local Apple Store was "ugh...!!! I'm here to buy a computer, not a 'lifestyle'. What's with all the wankers in blue tee-shirts with tattoos and ski hats...?!". For me, there's nothing more square than trying to be cool. Not a good start.

I identified the least irritating-looking sales assistant, and asked him for help. He was very nice, he knew the products, he ascertained my needs and recommended what I'd decided to buy already. Getting better.

I said, "so, can I buy one then?". He said, "yep, I'll go get it", and within five minutes I was walking out the door with a Mac. All in all, despite the superficially annoying exterior, the Mac-buying experience was a smooth and pleasing one. By this point, I was feeling good about everything.


Setting it up:

I got it home, opened the box and thought, "yeah... that looks smart". The external appearance of a computer had never previously been of interest me, so the Mini broke new ground here.

Putting the few pieces together was no more difficult than putting together a PS3 and, once I'd connected it properly to my television, it powered-up without a hitch. It took, I think, a further five minutes to go through the easy-as-pie setup process for OS X.

And that was that. My Mac was ready to use. And I couldn't discern any noise from the machine whatsoever, in a near-silent room.


Boot Camp:

Mac purists might be slightly offended to hear that one of the first pieces of software that I installed onto my new Mini was Windows 7 (I can hear the groans, now...!).

The process was extremely simple and took very little time, but I would nonetheless complain slightly that OS X forewarned me excessively; it made me print out a Boot Camp guidance document, which I would add was out-of-date, that suggested the installation of Windows was a treacherous and perilous process. I mean, sure, if I'd been a total novice (and/or moron), I might've reformated my OS X partition... but anyone with any PC experience would probably find the process a breeze, and the doom-laden guidance document slightly laughable.

Once installed, Windows 7 ran fine. I mean, it's still Windows, so it occasionally refuses to co-operate for reasons that are beyond me, but it's less annoying than Vista.

Learning to use OS X has been interesting; and it's true, I've probably been leaning on the Windows 7 partition preferrentially because it's easier to stick to what you know. But in the times I've used OS X, it's never crashed, sulked, or flipped-out at me. Seems like a very graceful operating system.


Gaming:

I've been playing a clutch of games from Steam through Windows, the most modern and demanding of which are Doom 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. They run very nicely. Older stuff, like Half-Life and Quake III, bomb along at lightning pace. I'd advise anybody looking to play older games to consider the Mini for this purpose, specifically. I'm absolutely delighted with this facet of performance.


Overall:

I'm pleased. Yes, I could've bought a PC with a greater spec for the same money, but the versatility of being able to switch from PC to Mac and back, coupled with the surprisingly good gaming performance and the living room friendly form factor justify the greater expense (for me, anyway). My only real complaints are that the appearance of the Apple Store and the people within it almost made me turn on my heels, and that OS X seems so committed to being idiot-proof that it can be slightly insulting to an experienced computer user.


All in all, very happy.



Raima
Mar 10, 2010, 07:22 AM
Good write up. Similar experience, but I was more knit picking with the Mac OS X. I was expecting it to be easier to use as that's what everyone made it out to be. Took me a while to get used to it, there's still a few things the erks me about Mac OS X, and that's the right mouse click, it's way more complicated than it needs to be - just give macs a default right mouse button on notebooks etc. Pressing control and clicking or a two finger click is like WTF!!! A single and simple right mouse click will do the job thank you.

Running windows on the MBP is also a pain as there's no page up/down buttons, no page scrolling via track pad and no right mouse click. Drivers are hard to find on the apple site for boot camp, so Windows doesn't identify things like the eject disc button, illuminated keyboard is off, etc. I'm not sure if this is apple's strategy to make the windows experience on mac hardware as difficult as possible when things just work on the pc, but it's working. I'm more inclined to stick with the PC notebook for windows atm.

Other than that, I'm liking the Mac. My i7 iMac should be arriving this Friday :)

Btom
Mar 10, 2010, 07:55 AM
Good write up. Similar experience, but I was more knit picking with the Mac OS X. I was expecting it to be easier to use as that's what everyone made it out to be. .....

+1

I suspect at least some of the OS X irks came from our unfamiliarity with the system, after living with the Windows' ways of doing things for so long....

Tom B.

ae3265
Mar 10, 2010, 08:06 AM
I was expecting it to be easier to use as that's what everyone made it out to be. Took me a while to get used to it, there's still a few things the erks me about Mac OS X, and that's the right mouse click,

Check out BetterTouchTool. Add that and stop looking for a right button, once you get used to the multi-touch you're going to love how versatile it can be.

As a former switcher, the hardest thing is to give up the "Windows" way of doing things and learn the Mac way. Once you get used to it and stop fighting it, it really is both easier and more efficient.

I'm still a big fan of Virtualization over Bootcamp when you need to run Windows. Unless you are running Windows for gaming, Parallels, Fusion or Virtualbox will let you run what you need in Windows (Office, IE, etc.). Right now Parallels seems to run Windows 7 the best.

Check out the osx.iusethis.com site for a lot of great software out there and find a long-time Mac user to show you some things. I learned a huge amount watching a colleague of mine flit through his system with Quicksilver a few years ago and it really opened up the possibilities of OS X.

willcodejavafor
Mar 10, 2010, 08:44 AM
What's with all the wankers in blue tee-shirts with tattoos and ski hats...?!".

Funny :)
That's why I bought mine online.

glasscity
Mar 10, 2010, 08:56 AM
Same here. I recently switched, and I'm very happy with the purchase. I went to bestbuy here in canada to get my imac (originally a macbook, but I returned it because my eyes aren't what they used to be, and the tiny screen was giving me headaches after use. Gotta see my optometrist soon. having them switch it out was absolutely no problem at all, anyway) and I couldn't be happier about the purchase.

There are little quirks that take some getting used to, namely having the window buttons on the left side instead of the right side, remembering that the little red x doesn't quit the program, just closes the window, etc. etc. But all in all it was a pretty good decision, I think.

I don't game, but I have been playing around with some graphics programs and things are running absolutely smooth. The setup took 5 minutes, installing additional programs I needed took all of a minute or two, everything so far has been better than I anticipated.

dh2005
Mar 10, 2010, 10:26 AM
That's why I bought mine online.

Hah! Yeah, I very nearly did the same. But my impatience got the better of me.

I guess my response to the look of the Apple Store employees is yet further evidence that I'm getting old.

Badger^2
Mar 10, 2010, 01:35 PM
Hah! Yeah, I very nearly did the same. But my impatience got the better of me.

I guess my response to the look of the Apple Store employees is yet further evidence that I'm getting old.

You crazy Brits =)

Some helpful links:

http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/

http://www.apple.com/support/mac101/

http://www.lynda.com/home/ViewCourses.aspx?lpk0=67

Two finger right clicking on the trackpad is so easy even my 5 year old gets it =)

Good news, Steam is coming to OSX: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/03/valve-teases-upcoming-half-life-release-for-mac/

Having never used Windows in my entire life -- and seeing zero reason to do so -- installing Windows on my Macs will never happen =)

yamawho
Mar 10, 2010, 02:35 PM
Funny :)
That's why I bought mine online.

Me too ...

dh2005
Mar 10, 2010, 02:42 PM
Nice to know I'm not the only Mac owner who thinks the Apple Store Massive look like trendy dickheads...

... still, it makes sense, really. After all, most people are trendy dickheads. If you want to pull people in off the street to buy their fifth iPod of the year, you need to make them feel at home.

cwwilson
Mar 10, 2010, 02:46 PM
I don't know about your store but around here they are generally very clean looking and are quite nice and helpful.

dh2005
Mar 10, 2010, 03:05 PM
I didn't say they weren't. They just dress like idiots - not all of them, but many.

At the Apple Store in the middle of Manchester during my visit, I'd say more than half of the floor staff had either a "creative" haircut, an unimaginative tattoo, or a piece of silly headwear (ski hat, bandana, whatever...). One guy had all three; he looked like a twentysomething waste-of-space who'd never finished senior school. And what's ironic is, I bet he was a middle-class, privately educated university graduate; it takes money and forethought to look that slack.

Tart.

HLdan
Mar 10, 2010, 03:16 PM
I didn't say they weren't. They just dress like idiots - not all of them, but many.

At the Apple Store in the middle of Manchester during my visit, I'd say more than half of the floor staff had either a "creative" haircut, an unimaginative tattoo, or a piece of silly headwear (ski hat, bandana, whatever...). One guy had all three; he looked like a twentysomething waste-of-space who'd never finished senior school. And what's ironic is, I bet he was a middle-class, privately educated university graduate; it takes money and forethought to look that slack.

Tart.

Gee, you're putting people down and calling them horrible names for how their hair looks or how creative their tattoo is? How much do you think Apple is paying them? I can assure you, not much, as my brother worked there for a bit.
Honestly, I agree with you on your earlier post, you're getting old.
Personally I think the Apple employees attire is very fun and laid back and doesn't represent arrogance like some stores. I don't feel comfortable going into stores where everyone is dressed up and looks "perfect", I feel like I have to act a certain way. Apple hires young people for two reasons, they have an image they want to project and they can pay small wages. Try to be more open minded and less critical of someone's looks. :p

dh2005
Mar 10, 2010, 03:46 PM
But, ya see, there's the irony. They do look "perfect". The image they're trying to project is engineered anti-perfection, and they achieve that "perfectly". It's a contrivance and, in my opinion, very lame. And anybody who dresses to an image makes a deliberate spectacle of themselves, and if they draw adverse comment for doing so then it serves them right.

No need to take my comments personally because your brother worked there, man. Seriously. My mother and sister are nurses, and as a student doctor I hear nurses being slammed all the time. If I got the arse every time that happened, I'd have to quit medicine!

I would also add that I have not commented that they're bad at their jobs, but simply on their appearance, which I find "fun" to the point of being unprofessional. My opinion is clearly dissenting, because Apple Stores do great business; they shouldn't care what I think, and they probably don't - doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. After all, I spent £650 in that Apple Store that day, and I'll probably be spending another £1,500 there on an iMac this time next year. That's more than a casual iPod shopper's likely to spend there in a lifetime.


I'm not looking to get into a war of words, by the way. Maybe the above will explain more clearly where my disagreements come from.

rdowns
Mar 10, 2010, 04:17 PM
Anyone else feel like ripping the stupid ski hats off their heads. :D

dh2005
Mar 10, 2010, 04:59 PM
My feelings didn't run so deeply as to assault them...!


But seriously, and this goes for anybody and not just Apple Store employees, if you wear a ski hat indoors in a temperate climate you're being an ass. There is absolutely no need.

Bobdude161
Mar 10, 2010, 05:21 PM
... and that OS X seems so committed to being idiot-proof that it can be slightly insulting to an experienced computer user.
...

Amen. That's one reason I switched to PC and am enjoying the Windows side more. :)

student_trap
Mar 10, 2010, 06:02 PM
Did you get the 2.26 or 2.53 mini?

Badger^2
Mar 10, 2010, 06:05 PM
I didn't say they weren't. They just dress like idiots - not all of them, but many.

At the Apple Store in the middle of Manchester during my visit, I'd say more than half of the floor staff had either a "creative" haircut, an unimaginative tattoo, or a piece of silly headwear (ski hat, bandana, whatever...). One guy had all three; he looked like a twentysomething waste-of-space who'd never finished senior school. And what's ironic is, I bet he was a middle-class, privately educated university graduate; it takes money and forethought to look that slack.

Tart.

I bet your parents said the same thing about the Beatles. =)

HLdan
Mar 10, 2010, 11:01 PM
Amen. That's one reason I switched to PC and am enjoying the Windows side more. :)

I don't see any reason for you to be on this forum at all then. :rolleyes:

dh2005
Mar 11, 2010, 01:24 AM
I bet your parents said the same thing about the Beatles. =)

Hahahaha...!!!

My grandparents, maybe! My parents were teenagers in the late Sixties.


And in a way, there was something much more honest about "cool" back then. I mean, at the least the Beatles were working-class art school students from Liverpool; I guarantee that some of the people I've been wailing on have as formal an education as I do, and will've come from a more wealthy family than me.

Some of those haircuts are clearly very expensive!

dh2005
Mar 11, 2010, 01:28 AM
Did you get the 2.26 or 2.53 mini?

The 2.53GHz, mate.

yamawho
Mar 11, 2010, 06:24 AM
Amen. That's one reason I switched to PC and am enjoying the Windows side more. :)

Ha ha .. good one :D

As a recent mac owner added a mini to the pc fleet that I own I can say this;

When I need to get something done I use a pc either running windows or linux, when I want to relax I use my mini.

roguepink
Mar 11, 2010, 06:47 AM
Ha ha .. good one :D

As a recent mac owner added a mini to the pc fleet that I own I can say this;

When I need to get something done I use a pc either running windows or linux, when I want to relax I use my mini.

And you are here for what purpose?

dh2005, welcome aboard. The Mac Store experience is not for everyone which is why, in part of the world anyway, you can also buy a new Mac from more traditional computer stores like Micro Center. They wear sport coats and ties.

Its the machine that counts.

I personally enjoyed The Mac Store. They people there knew their Macs and treated me well and THAT'S more important than blue t-shirts and hippie beards.

yamawho
Mar 11, 2010, 06:54 AM
And you are here for what purpose?

To participate in the Mac love in of course :rolleyes:

dh2005
Mar 11, 2010, 06:56 AM
They people there knew their Macs and treated me well and THAT'S more important than blue t-shirts and hippie beards.

Agreed. But if the staff look like dropouts and certain shoppers don't even come inside, the staff won't have the opportunity to demonstrate their customer service skills... call me old-fashioned, but I don't want to be sold something that costs many hundreds of pounds by people who look like they failed all their GCSEs. Particularly when I know that they probably didn't, and in fact scored decent grades, but choose to look like dumb-asses because it's fashionable.


Thanks for the welcome. I'm happy to be here. My Mini is pleasantly diverting, and it's given me the taste for an iMac; probably this time next year.

petetropolis
Mar 11, 2010, 08:00 AM
Thought I chip in too as I've been lurking around these parts for a couple of months (mostly checking on the progress of the iMac issues as that's what I was looking at buying). Sorry, it's a bit of a long post.

Around September last year I decided I wanted to have a go at iPhone development so could only do that using a Mac. I didn't want to spend lots of money straight away so firstly went down the route of getting OSX running in a VM ware image, that worked and I was able to try my hand at coding in the iPhone SDK to see if it was worth investing money. Having done that I reaised that going down the virtualisation or hackintosh route was just to complicated, the trade-offs and issues just made the experience more trouble than it was worth so I decided to spend some cash.

The first issue was finding a suitable replacement for my PC. Having been a Windows Sys Admin, Unix Sys Admin, support person, developer etc... I've become a bit of a tinkerer so like building my own systems and changing things reguarly so the thought of being locked down wasn't good. However with my wife always complaining about the noise my PC makes I decided I could cope with giving that side up for a nice quiet cable free desk. So what to buy, I didn't want a laptop, mainly because I didn't need it to be portable but also, well, have you seen the prices of the top end models! A mac pro was out of the question too, although it's upgradeable I didn't really need a Xeon processor (or 2!) and, well, have you seen the price of those too! Mac minis, a little to underspecced, so that left the iMac and because I didn't want to go lower than the spec of my own built PC I decided on the i7.

....Oh dear, finally made my decision and then I read about the long list of issues with the iMac. Decided to pop along to the nearest apple store to actually have a look at the machines to see if I could spot some of the problems and had my first experiences with the staff. To be honest I was fine with the dress sense and everything, it's what I was expecting, but what I hated was being labelled a 'switcher'. There seemed to be no understanding that someone could be just as happy to use Windows as they are to use OSX, they'd already decided that if I bought a Mac I'd eventually decide that OSX was all I'd want to use and I found the whole 'Mac is the only way to go' attitude the biggest gripe I had with them.

After this lengthy decision process and then subsequent weeks of lurking around places like this I decided to order an i7 online. I did so on the 25th of Feb and as I'm in the UK got ready for the two week shipping wait.....to my surprise my week 9 model left Shanghai on the 27th and was delivered by UPS on the 4th, exactly a week later. I powered it up and it was perfect, I couldn't find any faults with it. The first thing I did was install Windows 7 via bootcamp and that went smoothly too.

So after only ever owning PCs....I love the iMac, as a package it looks good, runs silent and My desk now has a lot less clutter so I'm very happy with it. As far as OSX vs Windows, well I don't really care, they both do their job and I use whichever is appropriate for the task I'm doing. The buying process, well I don't like the limited choice of models and the fact that there isn't a decent PC equivalent sat between the iMac and the Mac Pro, and I could do without the 'Apple superiority' attitude that seems to exist in the stores, but buying online was great and at least the stores have almost all the models on show I can play with properly, I just need a 'do not disturb' sign!

So if anyone else is contemplating it, I can fully recommend the i7 iMac and if you like windows, you don't have to leave it behind......I'm only left with one real annoyance, if Steve Jobs would just let me run OSX on a PC (theres no technical reason why it can't) I could have saved a lot of money.

SpitUK
Mar 11, 2010, 09:02 AM
Thanks for that. I am at the about to switch stage!

dh2005
Mar 11, 2010, 09:03 AM
petetropolis;

Thanks for the input. I agree with several things you've pointed out, there.

voyager03
Mar 11, 2010, 09:31 AM
Interesting thread.

Nothing much to add other than I bought a mini to replace an aged PC - I got a 'Refurbished' 2.53 from the on-line store, a Mac keyboard and VGA cable from eBay and used my old monitor and mouse. All has been fine. I've been playing with VirtualBox but since pretty much everything I regularly used on a PC was freeware (OpenOffice, Gimp and the like) they are all available on the Mac too.

My wife 'switched' a year or so before me and we did the Mac Store experience (in Exeter) a couple of times before she bought as we knew less than nothing about Mac at the time. Can't say I thought the staff were overly trendy or even that young. She was dealt with well, our questions answered and happily she bought a white MacBook 2.4 (which I soon upgraded the memory in to 4gb) and she stopped hassling me with computer problems. Which was good. (I'm currently trying to get her to wait a month or so - her Vodafone contract is up and she wants and iPhone. I think waiting 'till June would be a good idea.....)

AdeFowler
Mar 11, 2010, 09:47 AM
I didn't say they weren't. They just dress like idiots - not all of them, but many.

At the Apple Store in the middle of Manchester during my visit, I'd say more than half of the floor staff had either a "creative" haircut, an unimaginative tattoo, or a piece of silly headwear (ski hat, bandana, whatever...). One guy had all three; he looked like a twentysomething waste-of-space who'd never finished senior school. And what's ironic is, I bet he was a middle-class, privately educated university graduate; it takes money and forethought to look that slack.

Tart.
Tarts indeed.

I think it's an Americanism that just doesn't quite work in our culture. I always cringe when the staff are whooping and high-fiving at store openings. That said, I am nearly 48 and the Apple Stores are doing rather well :o

dh2005
Mar 11, 2010, 10:01 AM
Well, they know which side their bread's buttered, don't they? Trendy idiots who replace their iPods every fifteen months.


I don't where else on the UK high street I could buy a Mac, to be honest. PC World, I guess, though they're typically marooned in business parks on the outskirts of town... anywhere else that anyone can think of?

AdeFowler
Mar 11, 2010, 11:36 AM
John Lewis
Argos

trose
Mar 11, 2010, 12:13 PM
Well, they know which side their bread's buttered, don't they? Trendy idiots who replace their iPods every fifteen months.

You've a real problem with folks different than yourself, eh?

I'd just *love* to go over your budget (and style) and point out all the things that I find to be wasteful and idiotic. I guarantee you there would be plenty.

Point being- Live and let live. If they've the money and desire to purchase a new iPod model, why shouldn't they? Doesn't seem to be hurting anyone. Unless, that is, we take into consideration the discomfort caused by your twisted panties.

On top of all that, you make a hell of a lot of assumptions. They work at an Apple store so they must be purchasing lots of iPods?

For the record- I don't and never have owned an iPod.

dh2005
Mar 11, 2010, 01:05 PM
You've a real problem with folks different than yourself, eh?

I'd just *love* to go over your budget (and style) and point out all the things that I find to be wasteful and idiotic. I guarantee you there would be plenty.

Point being- Live and let live. If they've the money and desire to purchase a new iPod model, why shouldn't they? Doesn't seem to be hurting anyone. Unless, that is, we take into consideration the discomfort caused by your twisted panties.

On top of all that, you make a hell of a lot of assumptions. They work at an Apple store so they must be purchasing lots of iPods?

For the record- I don't and never have owned an iPod.


I have problems with some people who are different than myself, yes. Child-molesters, for instance. Or should I be nice to them, too...? I'm sure you've never made a value-judgement of another human being in your life. How fortunate I am to have your liberal counsel at my ear.



As for my budget (and style); two things to say about that:

1. You'd "*love*" to do that, would you? That's an admission that you would delight in doing the exact same thing that I've done, for which you have criticised me. Makes you a hypocrite.

2. You "guarantee" you'd find plenty that's "wasteful and idiotic"? That's one "hell" of an "assumption", wouldn't you say? Makes you a hypocrite.



As for "Live and let live"; who have I killed...?



On top of all that, perhaps you should have clarified the definition of the expression that I used before publicly soiling your own "twisted panties". Knowing which side one's bread is buttered means behaving in a certain way to gain a certain advantageous outcome; the "trendy idiots" who constantly replace their iPods to whom I referred are the customers, and not the staff. I am suggesting that Apple Stores allow/encourage their staff to project that image to appeal to that consumer demographic.



If you want to vomit some more, send me a PM. I don't do public arguments.

Sir Cecil
Mar 11, 2010, 01:18 PM
I didn't say they weren't. They just dress like idiots - not all of them, but many.

At the Apple Store in the middle of Manchester during my visit, I'd say more than half of the floor staff had either a "creative" haircut, an unimaginative tattoo, or a piece of silly headwear (ski hat, bandana, whatever...). One guy had all three; he looked like a twentysomething waste-of-space who'd never finished senior school. And what's ironic is, I bet he was a middle-class, privately educated university graduate; it takes money and forethought to look that slack.

Tart.


Maybe that says more about Manchester than it says about Apple.

trose
Mar 11, 2010, 01:35 PM
I have problems with some people who are different than myself, yes. Child-molesters, for instance. Or should I be nice to them, too...? I'm sure you've never made a value-judgement of another human being in your life. How fortunate I am to have your liberal counsel at my ear.



As for my budget (and style); two things to say about that:

1. You'd "*love*" to do that, would you? That's an admission that you would delight in doing the exact same thing that I've done, for which you have criticised me. Makes you a hypocrite.

2. You "guarantee" you'd find plenty that's "wasteful and idiotic"? That's one "hell" of an "assumption", wouldn't you say? Makes you a hypocrite.



As for "Live and let live"; who have I killed...?



On top of all that, perhaps you should have clarified the definition of the expression that I used before publicly soiling your own "twisted panties". Knowing which side one's bread is buttered means behaving in a certain way to gain a certain advantageous outcome; the "trendy idiots" who constantly replace their iPods to whom I referred are the customers, and not the staff. I am suggesting that Apple Stores allow/encourage their staff to project that image to appeal to that consumer demographic.



If you want to vomit some more, send me a PM. I don't do public arguments.

Right, because "child molesters" is obviously comparable to "someone who dresses differently than myself".

Let's just leave it at that, since I can see the way you like to "debate".

dh2005
Mar 11, 2010, 02:27 PM
Right, because "child molesters" is obviously comparable to "someone who dresses differently than myself".

Let's just leave it at that, since I can see the way you like to "debate".

It's ironic that you should lecture me on the etiquette of debate; you insulted me, made a series of hypocritical comments, and misinterpretted part of what I'd written. You destroyed your own credibility straight off the line, then got the hump when I pointed it out; using, in large part, the same words you used towards me. Maybe if you hadn't been so aggressive (make sure you're on firm ground before you attack...), and if you'd explained yourself a little better, we'd be debating this now, rather than arguing about it.

Other people on this thread have managed to disagree with me without getting chewed. You set the tone of this exchange; I merely responded to it.


I don't like making enemies on forums - it's stupid, and counterproductive. I'm willing to forget about this, if you are.

dh2005
Mar 11, 2010, 02:31 PM
Maybe that says more about Manchester than it says about Apple.

Maybe, yes. Though the Mac-owning friend I took with me to buy my Mini commented that the staff have a similar image in London.

Mind you - is that much of a defence...?!

yamawho
Mar 11, 2010, 05:06 PM
I've given apple a few bucks for the years mostly for iPods ...

Kids keep losing them or getting them stolen :(

Anyways I decided to get a Mini for myself back in November and although I had many plans for it, I just basically use to for internet and emails.

Decided to go legit and got fed up hackingtoshing.

For the record I can't find my ski hat and I use a blackberry :D

Wrathwitch
Mar 11, 2010, 09:06 PM
I too am a switcher and I have to say:

I am constantly blown away by not having to have "new updates are available for your computer" constantly demanding my time and "You must restart your computer to have these changes take effect".

Its bloody wonderful. I have never had a glitch, hitch, restart requirement, everything just bloody works. When I wonder about updates, I take a look and maybe 1-3 may be available, not the 73 others that you "Could" update.

It starts up in under 30 seconds and is ready to rock World of Warcraft, emails, bit torrents or whatver!

Bloody amazing! Loving it.

voyager03
Mar 12, 2010, 02:48 AM
If nothing else the Mac store employee (and her 'grandmother') here (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/03/11/2010-03-11_law_and_order_star_richard_belzer_accused_of_attacking_apple_store_employee.html) appear to need to get a dose of real life and a sense of humour transplant.... :rolleyes:

dh2005
Mar 12, 2010, 03:51 AM
Aww, man. That makes such a depressing read.

dh2005
Mar 12, 2010, 03:54 AM
I too am a switcher and I have to say:

I am constantly blown away by not having to have "new updates are available for your computer" constantly demanding my time and "You must restart your computer to have these changes take effect".

Its bloody wonderful. I have never had a glitch, hitch, restart requirement, everything just bloody works. When I wonder about updates, I take a look and maybe 1-3 may be available, not the 73 others that you "Could" update.

It starts up in under 30 seconds and is ready to rock World of Warcraft, emails, bit torrents or whatver!

Bloody amazing! Loving it.


Yeah, it's certainly a quicker startup. And generally less instrusive as an OS.

Maybe I'll make an effort to use OS X this weekend. Leave Windows 7 out in the cold for a while...