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MacRumors
Jan 1, 2002, 02:32 AM
Apple's really hyping this one up... new on Apple.com (http://www.apple.com)

Count the days. Count the minutes. Count on being blown away.



irmongoose
Jan 1, 2002, 04:10 AM
This is unbelievable... Apple has never done this....

I sure hope its a G5, but i doubt it... maybe a new iMac...

BUT.. what if its something TOTALLY different? Something nobody thought of? Not a G5, a new iMac, or not even an iPDA?

Just think... just think....

Big, even by Apple's standards.... im counting, im counting.



irmongoose

j763
Jan 1, 2002, 06:20 AM
Apple has never so heavily advertised mwsf on their site, with all this hype - it has to be big. i think that we'll probably see the flatpanel imac, mabye mabye mabye a G5 and something else that no-one's been expecting. It would be irresponsible of Apple to post such extravagent comments on their site and then to only come out with a flatpanel iMac or a g5. i bet they've had something else in the works that's really going to impress. Apple are trying to impress at the moment, the new 27 cool retail stores (expecting a loss) and the iPod... They're trying to get noticed and what we see at mwsf will fit in with this...

As noted on this and other sites, the keynote will be broadcast live in QuickTime: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/mwsf02/ at 9AM PT. If you don't know your local comparison - a good site is: http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/search/time.html

Narrowband users who can't cope with the live qtv stream should try http://www.macminute.com/ during the keynote, they'll have a live transcript...

Ensign Paris
Jan 1, 2002, 07:10 AM
I hope we see a G4 version of the Cube and G5 Minitowers.

As in a G4Cube to take over the current G4 Market, and the G5 to be slightly more expensive and be in the current minitower design.



[Edited by Ensign Paris on 01-01-2002 at 09:02 AM]

iwantanewmac
Jan 1, 2002, 07:15 AM
ermm the cube WAS a G4??????

Ensign Paris
Jan 1, 2002, 08:06 AM
I meant to say a G4Cube Revision, (Ie. Cube 800mhz and 867mhz) and then 1ghz + G5 MINITOWERS)

ok?

Doraemon
Jan 1, 2002, 08:18 AM
What ever we'll see in 6 days, it's going to be BIG! I'm looking forward to it! :)

Ensign Paris
Jan 1, 2002, 08:24 AM
The last Expo was a flop and didn't do very well, Apple didn't boast about how good or big it was going to be, infact it was just the usual.

I think Apple are making up for that and trying to get back to the cult feeling.

Come on apple do us proud!

irmongoose
Jan 1, 2002, 08:30 AM
I don't think this is just to make up for last time.

there were other expos which weren't that good, and they didn't do something this big...

So, it is not jst to make up for last time...

it MUST be more than that...


irmongoose

pimentoLoaf
Jan 1, 2002, 09:09 AM
OH MY FREAKIN' GOSH !!!!


The thought that Apple has finally fixed every bug, under contract to Microsoft, in Windows 3.1 is ....


UTTERLY AMAZING !!!!

Wow !!! Golly gee !! My, oh my !

grin ;)

blakespot
Jan 1, 2002, 09:35 AM
I still wish people would stop whining about the last expo. Again, the TOP END machine, the G4 733 (prior to expo) dropped to the price slot of the LOW END machine and the new top end machine has 800 MHz processors --- TWO OF THEM.

How is that lame??? I still just don't understand!




blakespot

Supermike
Jan 1, 2002, 09:37 AM
What if "Big" means "Large"? A huge cinema display or something like that? I'm trying to think of other things that would be physically big, but can't think of any.

Ensign Paris
Jan 1, 2002, 09:50 AM
Last Expo was good but it wasn't as good as others, the QuickSilver was amazing but weren't we all waiting for 1ghz?

setanor
Jan 1, 2002, 09:51 AM
the iQuanta!

the world's first quantum computer. plus a machine that makes wormholes. and a plaid imac.

Wes
Jan 1, 2002, 10:03 AM
I don't think this amazing thing is the imac because it isn't that groundbreaking even though it might be released. I think it will be something more groundbreaking than an LCD monitor and a CPU stuck together

Ensign Paris
Jan 1, 2002, 10:10 AM
I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE!

marco114
Jan 1, 2002, 10:26 AM
Meet the "Big" Apple Power Server, with 4 Quad Processor G5's running a 1.5GHZ, 4 native firewire hot swap drive bays with 120GB each, 2 hot swap power supplies, gigawire, AIT II Tape Backup, Dual Channel 1gigbit Ethernet, 8GB RAM, SuperDrive and a cool glowing apple logo on the front running at 100 Gigaflops.

... damn, I just woke up.



[Edited by marco114 on 01-01-2002 at 11:29 AM]

marco114
Jan 1, 2002, 10:27 AM
anyone notice that Apple's site is not responding? Nothing about it is.. Maybe, just maybe they are getting the site up and running on the new Power Server?


[Edited by marco114 on 01-01-2002 at 11:38 AM]

marco114
Jan 1, 2002, 10:32 AM
Let's get like 20 people togetther and Storm the Macworld Expo the day before and see what's under those black curtains!!!

juniormaj
Jan 1, 2002, 10:38 AM
Yeah, I've noticed that it's not responding at all.

zim
Jan 1, 2002, 10:54 AM
does anyone know why apple is not responding? it seems that the whole network is down.

JoeCanadian
Jan 1, 2002, 10:55 AM
I don't doubt there will be some very cool products announced at MWSF, but could the additional hype that Apple is pouring on be an attempt to boost conference attendance? Does anyone know the projected attendance figures for this year compared to other years? Many other conferences this fall have suffered from dramatic drops in attendance.

newamiga
Jan 1, 2002, 10:56 AM
Ok guys here is a wild one but Apple.com down.. could it be that they were actually hacked and those teasers weren't theirs ? Or maybe the response to the teasers is just too much for their web servers.. kinda wierd though that even my mac.com email is down.. real strange that everything would be down at once...

joey j
Jan 1, 2002, 11:02 AM
And a happy new year to everyone! My break from macrumors.com was much
refreshing. So, back to work:


blakespot> How is that lame??? I still just don't understand!

Users might often be waiting on one thread? Although Intel's moving in the opposite direction with hyperthreading, so there's something to be said both ways.

MichiganJS
Jan 1, 2002, 11:32 AM
http://www.apple.com is back, but e-mail is still out... My guess is that they really are moving to much, much, much larger servers in anticipation of next week. I mean, there could be millions and millions watching the webcast!!! You've gotta' be prepared...

(My guess: Apple and Sony become one = A slew of insanely great new digital appliances - 5 or more - appear on the showfloor on day one. A digital camera, some kind of set-top box, and some things that are so creative I can't envision them just yet. Also count on Quicktime6 being announced, if not completed. This will ship with MPEG4, and coincide with the MPEG4 class the following wednesday.)

Is anyone else here lining up outside the Moscone at 2am? I got me a press pass this year, so I'll actually get to see his Steveness up close and personal this time around (as opposed to postage-stamp sized and studdering like a virgin in a stip club).

elgruga
Jan 1, 2002, 11:37 AM
mail servers down, store is down, everything else is up - more or less.
Therefore, expect an Apple annnouncement by email to all mac.com users and a huge sale of outgoing hardware on the store, plus:

iPod series 2
G5 @ 1.5 ghz
iPod bundled with iBooks for 1299 USD
and:
Drum roll...................................

OS X available for Intel boxes
OS X available for Intel boxes
OS X available for Intel boxes
OS X available for Intel boxes
OS X available for Intel boxes
OS X available for Intel boxes

for $99 USD.

joey j
Jan 1, 2002, 11:43 AM
elgruga> OS X available for Intel boxes

I'd love to hear your take on precisely how Apple's going to trample the
applications barrier to entry which has thwarted all alternative OSes to
date.

huxley
Jan 1, 2002, 12:09 PM
it HAS to ba a PDA - Jobs would never let a product die, it's not part of his ego (ie: neXT cube, then G4 cube). That Newton has got to still sting, and the Palm platform on Mac has just not been up to par. I totally agree with the assumptions about more flat panels, it's time for the iMac to be seriously overhauled, and 1 gig processors also have to be in the mix, but there just has to ba a PDA in there somewhere. And you must admit, all those nice little goodies rolled into one Expo certainly does live up to the hype.

pimentoLoaf
Jan 1, 2002, 12:40 PM
Instead of a dual-800 Mhz system, perhaps a quad-1.2 Mhz system -- with g5 chips.

Ain't nothing like that for a PC world, eh?

guest
Jan 1, 2002, 01:27 PM
Note: None of this is true. Names have been changed to protect the author. All of this is parody, and

Appel computer announced today, that in a surprise conference, that Microsloft is selling its Windohs divison to Appel.

The grapevine is stirring after a comment by Bill Gaytz was leaked. "This is the best deal I've ever done. It gets the DOJ off my back, millions more in my pockets, and all for something that was 95% Appel's to begin with."

Appel has announced a two year migration plan for users to move to Mac OS X. Steve Johbs was heard saying "Why would we want to support such a piece of crap? Mack OS X is better in every way, and we think that users are going to go out and buy our brand new G6 (we skipped a generation) boxes.)

An Inhel spokesperson, speaking in regard of this announcement, has said "Oh, $#!t, we're screwed"

Linnus Torvohlds has stated that this is a perfect time for those wishing for a crappy interface to move to Linnux.

Larry Elllison realized that he wasn't ever going to be the richest man, as Gaytz is _way_ ahead of him now.

Steve Balhmmer wet his pants.

Ensign Paris
Jan 1, 2002, 01:44 PM
I am convinced that Apple is updateding there servers!

lewdvig
Jan 1, 2002, 02:15 PM
iMac/Tablet PC/Rev 2 ---> I seeded this one a few weeks ago and it seems to have taken root, but in all honesty, it was what I - as a product manager (which I am - not at Apple though) would make. I actually did some pricing and think that a solution like this could be built for <1500 retail.

Other ideas:
New line of 'connected' Consumer Electronics? No wires!
-I think Apple wants to move away from a pure computer manufacturer into a much bigger market where their design creativity can be even more appreciated.

OSX for x86
-my dream. I have a lot invested in Wintel - I would love it to be Mactel!

lewdvig
Jan 1, 2002, 02:22 PM
re: OSX on Intel

I think that MS would actually support this. .Net does not require an MS OS to use as it is an ASP model. Future revenue for MS hinges on the success of the .NET initiative.

XP has proven that the OS business is drying up. How do you differentiate your product when everything is already built into it? More screensavers? An Office suite?

So, it would not hurt MS business as their focus is already shifting. The added benefit would be that the DOJ and States would lay off. MS has deep pockets, but they would rather spend all that cash on a media company.

Djk515
Jan 1, 2002, 02:42 PM
"as opposed to postage-stamp sized and studdering like a virgin in a stip club"


hahaha. so true MichiganJS. I hate watching that tiny, choppy one-inch screen. Last MWNY, TechTV broadcasted the entire presentation, but too bad for me I don't have TechTV. Hopefully that lapse in Apple.com the other day means they're updating the servers to open up the bandwidth a little more for the millions of people who will be watching. Maybe this time it'll be a two-inch viewing window with a little less interruptions.

elgruga
Jan 1, 2002, 02:45 PM
Well, I dont know the tech details....but I dont need to; this IS a rumor site, right?

Anyway, theres this co. (apple) with 2 OS's, one thats perfectly fine as it is for high-end consumers (9) and one thats an attempt to move into a different area of computing (pro's, servers, etc).

Selling a verson of OSX on Intel doesnt hurt OS9, and doesnt hurt equipment sales for Apple - good equipment is always desirable, and very few computer co.'s make good equipment (apple, sony, ibm sometimes).

OSX has its own applications being developed for it, so no need to think about 'porting' and all that.

Anyway, no other company ever gets us all so excited about possible future products.

If it wasnt for Apple, I wouldnt use computers.
I am not trying to start a war, but I'd rather use a pencil and notepad, a sketchpad, and a calculator than use Windows.

1.5 ghz speeds - and thats a definite.
1.0 ghz Tibook - and thats for sure.



[Edited by elgruga on 01-01-2002 at 03:47 PM]

Phunky Monkey
Jan 1, 2002, 02:50 PM
I'm thinking the big announcement could be one of a couple of things:

1) OSX on intel, and the ability to run wintel apps natively under OSX both for Mac and Intel hardware. This would be the magic kick in the nuts that could take MS down.

2) Some convergence device. It would be similar to a Tivo, but with a snappier interface, CD/MP3/DVD/MPEG4 support, and an Airport/Ethernet/Firewire interface. It would be the be all, end all of TV devices, and seriously kick ass.

3) Remember the rumors flying around a new titanium care for the G4 towers? It will probably pop up here.

4) I seriuosly doubt a PDA. There is sooo much competition in the market now from Palm and others, that even with NewtonOS, it wouldn't be worth it to try and design somethign and get it out to market.

5) Definitely LCD iMacs. This is a must. If they don't have them now, it wouldn't be worth bringing them out.

6) Intel/AMD mac hardware. With Motorola being all sketchy as of late, I wouldn't be suprised to see Apple contract out a RISC-ified version of the Athlon XP. Of course, if Moto came through with a seriously kickass G5, then all would be saved. I still give this one 50/50 though.

7) Besides whatever "big thing" we'll all see in a few days, I forsee a complete feature revamp on the whole lineup. The iBook will be getting a low-end radeon, and possibly a slot-loading drive... maybe a larger screen (13", higher rez too). The TiPB will get the Radeon 8500 and faster slot-loading drives. Perhaps it will also be a dual-proc box... I don't know. The G4 Tower will either be G5-ized, or pick up the Apollo G4s running at much more than 1ghz. The iPod will get some accessories, and maybe some new software for the PCs. Also, RAM, HD, and proc speed bump ups all around.

8) QT6, will be sporting support for MPEG4, and hopefully fix that little AVI bug. (sign the petition at http://www.PetitionOnline.com/qtavi/petition-sign.html)

9) Steve Jobs will come to my house with a large box containing verious Mac goodies to show his gratitude for me writing this big list of genius ideas that he will make millions with over the next few years.

joey j
Jan 1, 2002, 02:56 PM
elgruga> Anyway, theres this co. (apple) with 2 OS's, one thats perfectly
fine as it is for high-end consumers (9) and one thats an attempt to move
into a different area of computing (pro's, servers, etc).

On the contrary, OS X is intended as a unified solution. If Apple makes a
PDA, bet on a cut-down OS X. If Apple creates a rackmount, count on it
running OS X Server.


>Selling a verson of OSX on Intel doesnt hurt OS9, and doesnt hurt
equipment sales for Apple

How do you come to this conclusion? Mac OS is one of the compelling
features which makes people use the Mac. Take it to another platform and
wave goodbye to any revenues, unless Apple charged something ungodly for
the privilege. Apple relies on its hardware revenues to develop Mac OS,
among other things.


>OSX has its own applications being developed for it, so no need to think
about 'porting' and all that.

Cocoa apps could be brought across with a recompile, or even shipped as
fat binaries. However most stuff is Carbon and will be for a while yet.
Carbon will be with us for a long time yet.


>1.0 ghz Tibook - and thats for sure.

Precisely how did you come up with that one?

voicegy
Jan 1, 2002, 03:16 PM
In 1997, Apple created 11,601 "20th Anniversary Macintosh's" that I had the pleasure of owning for a few years.

(yeah, for some odd reason, that's the number of machines that were made, according to my best sources)

Whatever one thought about that machine (now 5 years old) there was nothing like in on the planet. In its day, it couldn't be touched for sheer looks and sound. And Steve had nothing to do with it.

Now that Steve's back, and we're entering the 25th Anniversary of Apple Computer, I wouldn't be suprised to see a machine that relfects the thoughts behind the 20th Anniversary edition, albeit more "reasonably" priced than the 20th was on introduction, and made in a larger quantity.

The mind reels at what the designers at Apple could put out given the resources for such a "special" machine. That is one of my hopes for this years' Macworld.

Oh, that, and a combo PDA / Cell phone with the Apple logo on it. *sigh*

Scott

atlascott
Jan 1, 2002, 03:35 PM
This is the second time in 2 days that someone suggested that Mac and Sony were going to merge or form a partnership. Anyone know anything about this? It might help Apple get OS acceptance and compatibility with elelctronics, but whats in it for Sony? Dont they already make a nice profit on their-second only to Apple in style- laptops?

I think they are announcing G4 ibooks with combo drives, G4 iMacs, G5 Powerbooks, G5 Towers, all running over 1 GHz, with increased bus speed (like 266 or 400 or something)--also, all model ship with minimum 256 MB RAM and Radeon graphics cards. And prices cut across the board. All machines are pre-equipped with Airport 2 (backwards compatible with Aiprport, but 10 times faster) And the formation of AppleGames--a subsidiary of Apple which obtains game and entertainment licenses from great PC games and ports them to the Mac, faster and more stable, with more features. Also, Apple obtained WordPerfect license, and is releasing a Mac version of the PC's WordPerfect Suite for 200 bucks...

Uh, right.

pkradd
Jan 1, 2002, 03:41 PM
Here's a wild guess. Apple has acquired rights to Polaroid's new Opal Technology. An inexpensive set top box will print out large format prints of your favorite photos. Rather then using current ink jet or dye sublimation processes, Opal has all the inks in the paper itself. Colors are fantastically bright and lush with a typical 8X10 print costing about 75 cents (half the price of other types). Prints are finished in minutes. This is a non-silver based technology.

Pretzel Logician
Jan 1, 2002, 04:01 PM
I am hearing conflicting reports on this puppy. Any news? I read something on Motorola's website confirming its existence. But the question du jour is will there be PPC 8500 Macs at MWSF?

samy85114
Jan 1, 2002, 04:12 PM
What about apple site and mail server's down? this is a very significant sight... ( however, these are not always down )
We can feel it, something is coming... we all know that :-) but i just want to say that they are preparing something huge. they do that in order to excite us... well, as far I know , it works well..! I think that keynote gonna be much more big,much more interesting, and will release some products that we never expected to see before... I'm pretty excited by what's going on!! Now I wonder what they will say on apple.com for the 5 days left panel. Let's see tomorrow

samy85114
Jan 1, 2002, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Pretzel Logician
I am hearing conflicting reports on this puppy. Any news? I read something on Motorola's website confirming its existence. But the question du jour is will there be PPC 8500 Macs at MWSF?


Sure, G5 will be there, if it's not the case... well ,so i'm not sure that i'll be blown away.. and it won't be so big after all!

mmoore00
Jan 1, 2002, 04:39 PM
I usually find myself surfing around the Mac Rumor sites looking for any inside information. I am lowly PIII 600 user, and I plan to buy a mac for college. But, I have a feeling we are no longer discussing rumors or seriously speculating future products.

I would be the first one to beg for OSX on a PC platform, but come on guys, let's be serious. Why has Apple been so effective in implementing hard-core pro apps like Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro, etc? It is because they have total control over the hardware. They know that every computer they ship has at least one firewire port and a certain archetecture.

If Apple ships OSX for Wintel/AMD, they lose all certainty of the architecture. They cannot engineer an OS for each and every architecture / chipset and not turn out crap. That is why Windows has traditionally been less effective and runs so differently on each computer. It is a generalized bastardized version of an idea.

In this lies MacOS's great power: The HARDWARE fits the SOFTWARE, rather than the SOFTWARE fitting whatever HARDWARE the OEM decides to put in the box. Rarely can you find such an effective combination.

So, after my speech about OSX, I think I'll put in my two cents about what I expect.

*New iMac. I would guess it is a flat-panel, but beyond that I don't know. I think the idea that I have been hearing about it being a sort of wireless tablet is a great idea, but I hope it does not manifest itself. This "tablet" concept seriously limits the screen size. You couldn't carry a 17" monitor around with you very effectively.

*No G5. Maybe S Jobs will discuss it a bit, maybe even pre-orders. I doubt g5s are ready to ship. Apollos, yes. G5s, no.

*No PDA. Again, whoever said that S Jobs doesn't let product lines die needs to alter their statement to this: "S Jobs does not let product lines concieved by him die." If it is a PDA, it is NOT NEWTON. That was Sculley's baby. He was taken away by the idea of a PDA. Read his book... You'll understand what I'm saying. He was totally obsessed with the idea of a PDA. Jobs won't revive a program that was implemented quite ineffectively AND that was concieved by one of the principle architects of his removal from the company in the 1980s.

*iPod Update. I am guessing maybe a bit more space to compete with Creative's Nomad.

*iDevices. Possibly one or two. Maybe a miniDV camera, set-top box... Who KNOWS? These devices are going to be ULTRA cool, that's for sure.

*Product line update. iBook gets a 200-300mhz power up, plus some power up in the graphics arena. TiBook at least goes above 700mhz, possibly with a new graphics processing unit (GPU). Power Macs in a 1.6ghz, 1.2ghz, and 1ghz (It really will be something like 997mhz, but they sure as hell won't leave a Pro product under 1ghz... I think even Apple is sick of the "Megahertz Myth" stuff...) I'd also guess some differences will occur in Studio Displays after MWSF. Possibly a little bigger? Maybe an ADC->VGA adapter or something.

*Updated Appleworks, hopefully as close to compliant with Office as possible. This is nescessary for adoption to occur...

*iMovie 3. Faster rendering, more effects, etc.

*Discussion of OS X 10.2

Okay, I think that about does it for me. I'd appreciate any comments. I tried to leave out any of my hopes in my predictions... I tried to be realistic. Happy New Year everyone!

McFreggle
Jan 1, 2002, 04:42 PM
Anyone noticed the new layout of the Online Apple Store?
With a new category 'Solutions'.

Seems like Apple is going to provide us with a new, big, solution...

marco114
Jan 1, 2002, 04:53 PM
i don't know about you guys...but I'm staying up until Midnight to see what the next thing Apple's site says.

Wooo hoo! Can't wait.

sjestus
Jan 1, 2002, 06:06 PM
Apple is going to do something like Sony.
The high-end iMac will be a 667MHz G4, 15' LCD, 60GB HD, 256MB DDRRAM, DVD/CDRW,
ATI Radeon 8500 64MB DDR w/TV Tuner, 4 FireWire, Gb Ethernet, 2 USB 2.0.

The High-end Powermac will be a 2 GHz G5, 100GB HD, 1GB DDRRAM, 6x Superdrive, nVidea GeFORCE3 64MB DDRRAM, TV Tuner, 6 FireWire, Gb Ethernet, 6 USB 2.0.

MAYBE

Catfish_Man
Jan 1, 2002, 06:08 PM
...on the "what do we know for sure about MWSF" topic.

Rumor (It might have been confirmed, I can't remember): Radeon 7000 and 8500 mac edition released

Likely: Quicktime 6 announced/released

I think the LCD iMac will have a Radeon 7000 in it. Here's my guess at the top-of-the-line one's stats:

•1Ghz G3 (750fx)
•512k Level 2 cache at processor speed
•Between 384 and 512MBs of RAM (DDR 2100? The 750fx has a 200mhz system bus)
•80GB Hard Drive
•Radeon 7000 w/ 32 or 64MBs or RAM
•DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive
•15" LCD display

macaddict123k
Jan 1, 2002, 06:30 PM
the site says count on being blown away
http://www.apple.com

DannyZR2
Jan 1, 2002, 06:47 PM
oh great... now joey j is a senior....

Ninjamac
Jan 1, 2002, 06:48 PM
It's the G-station!

rekras
Jan 1, 2002, 06:51 PM
Apple's site now says we're going to be blown away, this just keeps getting better and better... I am extremely anxious!!!

I really liked voicegy's idea that we may see some sort of 25th anniversary mac. Maybe a SE imac package that will blow everything else away, who knows...

Another thing id like to see, is if apple copied sony and put one of those wacom tablet/lcd things on the imacs. those things would be great for graphic artists and designers one of apples key markets.

The only other digital "i" device I can think of that would be in apple's feild would be a PDA but steve has said himself that they arnt gonna make one. so maybe steve will redefine a digital device and make somethan else up... who the hell knows, we can only speculate. im just pissing my pants waiting for the 7th to arrive, it's like another christmas.

j763
Jan 1, 2002, 07:42 PM
A PDA is exactly what apple dosen't need at the moment. I'm sure that Steve's not stupid enough to put out a PDA for mwsf. At the moment, we are really in need of the g4 apollo (or a g5, probably unlikely to appear). We'll probably also see another digital hub device - after all, how can the iBook/iMac be the "center of your digital life" if apple have only got an iPod out. I think we're also going to hear a BIG announcement - we've seen rumors of either apple or m$ taking over adobe, but heard nothing more about it recently... has that fallen through, or have people forgot about it or what??

macfreek57
Jan 1, 2002, 09:31 PM
quit posting dreams in a serious discussion! there are forums for that elsewhere on this site. every other one of the posts on this thread is an amazingly unpractical list of things that will probably not all appear at the expo! come on: g5's and flatpanel iMacs and OS X on wintel?
what the heck is that?

do you realize how huge that last thing alone would be?
apple would never release something before it was a serious product. For a company the size of apple, OS X on wintel would take at least a year or two of work on nothing but that. That would mean we never got TiBooks for one.

ClassicMac
Jan 1, 2002, 10:40 PM
making OS X avaliable for wintel machines is something apple would never do. as someone mentioned before, apple's software is designed to work with a specific type of hardware. windows' big problem is that with the many different types of processors and hardware out there, it it hard to make the software compatible with everthing that is out there. if apple decided to make os X for PC, it would have to do the same thing microsoft did with windows, and that would probably make os X an incredibly slow piece of software, especially on PC. and if X worked well on PC, apple still would not do it for the fact that apple hardware is more expensive than PC hardware. yes, mac hardware is of great quality, but face it, PC's are much cheaper (and yes, i know they suck, there isn't a working PC in my house). if you could run OS X on a PC machine and it worked just as well as it did on a mac, you would probably go out and buy a PC box to run it, especially if you were on a tight budget (like me) =)

i do think we will see the introduction of the flat panel imac with faster G3 chips possibly reaching 1Ghz, and hopefully a faster graphics card. i do not think the G5 will be released, but it may possibly be announced and demoed, with apple taking pre-orders (possibly). speed-bumped G4's with Apollo chips reaching 1ghz and up. mabey some sort of new device for the digital hub. we will have to wait and see.

ambidexter
Jan 1, 2002, 11:21 PM
Apple and Sony isn't likely but Apple and Palm... maybe.

They certainly are back in the gadget-that-fits-in-your-pocket mode.

Else, a 100GB FireWire-equipped QuickTime "VCR" would be nice, somewhat like TiVo and very similar in concept (and perhaps OS) as the iPod. This would certainly mesh nicely with the iDVD concept and could easily have a DVD reader, not to mention HDTV tuner.

Then again, maybe it's just a Flower Power iBook. <Shudder>

MD.

rekras
Jan 1, 2002, 11:27 PM
i said copy sony, not merge with them

elgruga
Jan 2, 2002, 12:02 AM
I went too far with the "OS X on Intel thing" - in hindsight it isnt going to happen.
BUT - there has to be some kind of change in the way MS has so much power and the DOJ versus MS is still going on.....something could be in the wind. It probably wouldnt be an MWSF announcement tho.

1 ghz is absolutely essential - so much is riding on the perception of new Mac buyers with this.

I agree with the comment about another digital device - iPod is all on its ownsome. Then again, you cant expect Apple to start making DV cameras.

PDA does not seem likely. There isnt enough profit in it. Enhanced iPod seems a possibility.

How much fuss did Apple make about iPod - a lot!
This begins to smell like bloody Ginger......

I do hope we get some new servers - thats where I would like to see improvements.
Hot swap drives, redundant power, it wouldnt take much to make the current server line more attractive to companies.

Only trouble is - who is buying new servers right now? The used market is flooded. (although not with Mac servers......)

pimentoLoaf
Jan 2, 2002, 12:43 AM
What would excite the masses?

Hmmm...

MacOS X on Intel-based systems to compete head-on with Linux.

A USB toaster-oven in iMac colors. :D

New g4 graphics board with X-Plane in a ROM :cool: (okay, that's a personal request).

Every Apple owner to be given 100 shares of Apple stock.

I give up. What?

[Edited by pimentoLoaf on 01-02-2002 at 01:50 AM]

Classic
Jan 2, 2002, 02:00 AM
http://a772.g.akamai.net/7/772/51/f1fe8037644557/www.apple.com/home/images/12/mwsf02_waybeyond.gif

Crazy! I can't wait!

voicegy
Jan 2, 2002, 02:02 AM
It's midnight on the west coast, and I happened to take a look at Apple's site to see if they changed the little "teaser line" that they've been throwing out for the past couple of days...guys and gals, I think this one is simply the last word in what to expect:

"Beyond the rumor sites. Way beyond."

Conjecture away, boys and girls...we're in for a wonderful ride!

Scott

sjestus
Jan 2, 2002, 02:20 AM
A new UltraMAC computer with 10 2GHz G5s, 20GB RAM, Apple iVC 512MB 1tRAM video card, 10 120GB HDs made by Apple, 35' 3D All Colors Hologram monitor (you can stick your hand through it!!!), 50x DVDRW(DVDs in 35 seconds!!!), 6.1 DTS sound card, 10 FireWire2 ports, 15 USB 2.0 ports, TV Tuner, It also rips DVD. And that's just the low end.

macfreek57
Jan 2, 2002, 02:43 AM
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ClassicMac
Jan 2, 2002, 02:48 AM
what else could apple possiby be developing. mabey the iCar? (just kidding) im thinking that it could be a multiprocessor machine that lets several people run different copies of the OS on it at one time, each person having thier own display, keyboard ect. with this all being hooked up to one central computer. it would be like having 4 computers in one box.

oh well, just an idea, we will know for sure on the 7th. i cant wait!

akeem
Jan 2, 2002, 03:10 AM
The iCar isn't all that far fetched. Apple and VW (beetle) seem to have similar design philosophies. I'm sure Jobs loves that and would have joked about an Apple car years ago with CEO's over lunch. Maybe it's come to "fruition".

akeem
Jan 2, 2002, 03:13 AM
To clarify my post:
VW would make the Apple iCar, Apple would logo and accecerize it (go nuts here).

joey j
Jan 2, 2002, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by DannyZR2
oh great... now joey j is a senior....

You aren't trying to artificially inflate your post count to keep ahead of me, are you? 8-)

Supermike
Jan 2, 2002, 12:56 PM
It's big and will blow us away. And it will go way beyond the rumor sites... A business jet!!! Made of a combination of titanium and transparent materials, cockpit electronics using MacOS X, electric engines that can be charged through a firewire port,...

(I'm buying one for sure!)

macfreek57
Jan 2, 2002, 05:02 PM
ok i think this category has changed enough so that we can safely say that IT IS DEAD!! any and all new comments can and probaly should be made under NEW STRINGS!

macfreek57
Jan 2, 2002, 05:03 PM

blah
Jan 2, 2002, 07:04 PM
its going to be an iIron
and mabey the iGirl !!

lewdvig
Jan 5, 2002, 11:42 PM
ATI confimred the 8500 will be at the show - the Reg posted it a week ago.

More interesting is the possible intro of the next nVidia card, which will be announced soon (CES or MWSF). I can't see them waiting until CEBIT.

The Star Trek hints really point at a communicator of some kind. MS Smartphone and Symbian seem to have this locked up, though its still early days.