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ThatsMeRight
Mar 12, 2010, 09:59 AM
Okay,

You've got the iPad Dock keyboard and a normal iPad dock. I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy the normal iPad dock but I will also need a keyboard.

The Apple site tells me you can also use bluetooth keyboards (which I don't have at home).

Now I thought that it might be better to buy the bluetooth keyboard. Than I will just put the iPad on the normal iPad dock and I will use the bluetooth keyboard to type stuff.

Now the bluetooth keyboard and the special iPad Dock Keyboard have the same price except there's one difference: the iPad Dock Keyboard isn't wireless but it's also a dock at the same time.

So, what to do?

Buy a wireless bluetooth keyboard or buy the connected iPad Dock Keyboard?
And what are you going to do?



Cyroceon
Mar 12, 2010, 10:02 AM
I'm having a very similar conundrum. I came here for answers.

JimmyTheKnife
Mar 12, 2010, 10:03 AM
...Buy a wireless bluetooth keyboard or buy the connected iPad Dock Keyboard?
And what are you going to do?

I ordered the plain dock because I had the same questions you have. Before I make the decision on a keyboard, I'd have to know if the top row 'special keys' will work on the bluetooth keyboard. That would be a dealbreaker if they don't.

roland.g
Mar 12, 2010, 10:05 AM
Get the BT keyboard and the iPad dock normal. While you will pay a bit more for it, you will also have a nice smaller charging dock/slideshow picture frame. The Keyboard dock just seems less practical. Also think about portability. You can take the BT keyboard and iPad with you anywhere, even the dock too which is less cumbersome, but the keyboard dock looks much harder to transport.

GadgetX
Mar 12, 2010, 10:06 AM
$30 for a dock seems a bit ridiculous to me. I'm going to wait and see what third party accessories come along in the next couple months.

ThatsMeRight
Mar 12, 2010, 10:11 AM
$30 for a dock seems a bit ridiculous to me. I'm going to wait and see what third party accessories come along in the next couple months.
The +$130 for 3G too. But I'm willing to pay $30 for the very first original iPad Dock.

Get the BT keyboard and the iPad dock normal. While you will pay a bit more for it, you will also have a nice smaller charging dock/slideshow picture frame. The Keyboard dock just seems less practical. Also think about portability. You can take the BT keyboard and iPad with you anywhere, even the dock too which is less cumbersome, but the keyboard dock looks much harder to transport.
It's just the keyboard issue. I was also thinking about the fact that the bluetooth is more portable (it would also be more easy to use, as you can put it on your legs or somewhere else). Do you know if you also can use the bluetooth keyboard with other systems (like, for example, the PS3)?

I ordered the plain dock because I had the same questions you have. Before I make the decision on a keyboard, I'd have to know if the top row 'special keys' will work on the bluetooth keyboard. That would be a dealbreaker if they don't.
Yea, indeed. I also would like to know that.

-Ryan-
Mar 12, 2010, 10:11 AM
I don't like the look of the Apple Dock + Keyboard. To me it looks like I'd be sitting far too close to the iPad to be comfortable. I'd rather use a bluetooth one and set the iPad further back on the desk. Plus, I already have several bluetooth keyboards. :)

ThatsMeRight
Mar 12, 2010, 10:14 AM
Well, than the decision is easy made (wireless, bluetooth) except for one small thing: do the special icons (on the iPad Keyboard Dock) also work on the bluetooth keyboard?

mrgreen4242
Mar 12, 2010, 10:19 AM
I got the case, which doubles as a stand, no dock (can just plug it in with the included AC adaptor and a $2 USB-dock connector cable), and have an Apple BT keyboard now... so that's my answer. The iPad docks vertically which seems a little odd, compared to most monitor setups. Might work well for a small screen with software designed to be used that way, but it's nice to have the option and not be locked into one or the other.

ThatsMeRight
Mar 12, 2010, 10:24 AM
I got the case, which doubles as a stand, no dock (can just plug it in with the included AC adaptor and a $2 USB-dock connector cable), and have an Apple BT keyboard now... so that's my answer. The iPad docks vertically which seems a little odd, compared to most monitor setups. Might work well for a small screen with software designed to be used that way, but it's nice to have the option and not be locked into one or the other.
Wow, didn't think of this! I will buy both the case and the standard iPad dock, and I will choose for the bluetooth keyboard. You're right. I don't want to be locked to the portrait mode.

And oh, no need of buying a Dock to USB cable. Quote from Apple's website;

In the box
- iPad
- Dock Connector to USB Cable
- 10W USB Power Adapter
- Documentation

So that should be fine. So the accessoires I will buy:

- The case
- Standard iPad Dock
- Bluetooth Apple Keyboard

EDIT: I can't seem to find the Bluetooth Keyboard at the Apple site anymore. Anyone got a url (keyboard which IS compatibly with the iPad)?

phillyred79
Mar 12, 2010, 10:31 AM
I have decided to wait on the keyboard stuff.. I like the idea of a wireless keyboard via bluetooth, but then what if I want to sync up something else via bluetooth like headphones etc?? And for my purposes if I really need to do that much typing then I will just pull out my MacBook.. I'm sure the keyboard is a good idea for some people though..

blackNBUK
Mar 12, 2010, 10:32 AM
Just to throw another option in...

I'm planning to get Apple's iPad case; that way I can protect the screen and I've got a convenient way of propping the iPad up should I want to. It might even raise the virtual keyboard up enough on it's own to make the typing I want to do acceptable.

If it doesn't the next question is, does the iPad case let you plug it into the dock? I can't be sure either way from looking at the photos but there does look like there is a gap behind the dock connector port.

Edit: Looks like mrgreen4242 beat me to it :)

ThatsMeRight
Mar 12, 2010, 10:38 AM
I have decided to wait on the keyboard stuff.. I like the idea of a wireless keyboard via bluetooth, but then what if I want to sync up something else via bluetooth like headphones etc?? And for my purposes if I really need to do that much typing then I will just pull out my MacBook.. I'm sure the keyboard is a good idea for some people though..
I'm think you will be able to connect with more than 1 item to the iPad.

Bytor65
Mar 12, 2010, 10:44 AM
I don't like the look of the Apple Dock + Keyboard. To me it looks like I'd be sitting far too close to the iPad to be comfortable. I'd rather use a bluetooth one and set the iPad further back on the desk. Plus, I already have several bluetooth keyboards. :)

???

Have you used a laptop? Did you find the screen too close to be comfortable?

Remember this screen is tiny, smaller than a macbooks. You need to sit close if you plan to see much.

Obviously if you already have BT keyboard it is a no brainer, but if I get a keyboard at all, it would probably be the dock version. It charges, it holds the screen upright and IMO keeps it close where it needs to be, and the most economical solution as I would skip the regular dock.

ThatsMeRight
Mar 13, 2010, 02:07 PM
???

Have you used a laptop? Did you find the screen too close to be comfortable?

Remember this screen is tiny, smaller than a macbooks. You need to sit close if you plan to see much.

Obviously if you already have BT keyboard it is a no brainer, but if I get a keyboard at all, it would probably be the dock version. It charges, it holds the screen upright and IMO keeps it close where it needs to be, and the most economical solution as I would skip the regular dock.
But I'm going to have the regular dock :P

CristobalHuet
Mar 13, 2010, 02:12 PM
Connected. It doubles as a dock and you can plug it into the wall while your iPad is docked onto it.

Plus I find it's more effective for extensive note taking than an onscreen keyboard. :)

Costs as much as the BT keyboard too.

ThatsMeRight
Mar 13, 2010, 02:17 PM
Connected. It doubles as a dock and you can plug it into the wall while your iPad is docked onto it.

Plus I find it's more effective for extensive note taking than an onscreen keyboard. :)

Costs as much as the BT keyboard too.
Yea, but I'm not going to plug it in all the time and as I said before. I will also buy the regular dock. Next to that I also want to able to use it in landscape mode :P

JonnyIreland
Mar 13, 2010, 02:23 PM
I already own the BT keyboard, so it's an easy choice for me.
However, inside my geek-world of a mind (which is always thinking about this stuff, lol) I have visions of a few months down the line where I can have my iPad set up with a really nice, futuristic little mini-desktop look. Who knows what third-party accessories there will be for that. But in any event my vision includes a BT keyboard.

EddyP
Mar 13, 2010, 03:25 PM
It looks like the iPad keyboard dock has 14 buttons "above the numbers". That's the same as my BT keyboard. I assume my BT keyboard will be able to do the same things as the iPad dock keyboard. :confused:

It will be interesting though to see how it works though. Most of the same function buttons appear to be in the same place (playback controls & volume) on both. The exception appears to be the screen brightness buttons.

It's not a deal breaker for me though. I figure I can use the screen for any functionality that may be missing with the function keys.

FlashHead
Mar 13, 2010, 04:53 PM
Count me in for the case plus bluetooth keyboard.

It seems the keyboard dock would really only be beneficial to keep plugged in on a desk. That does not address my mobile needs. At least half the time I will be using my keyboard of choice in a non-desk situation: on the couch, reclining in bed, and most often in a theater seat taking notes (I'm a director). Instead of trying to balance the keyboard dock so the ipad doesn't fall off, I imagine the bluetooth keyboard on my lap and ipad in case, on the seat next to me or anywhere in eyesight. Could even walk around with the bluetooth keyboard, to the lighting table or sound board and still jot down some notes as long as I'm still in range. Plus, BT keyboard is slimmer (probably lighter) and I don't need a dock when I can use the case as a stand (in landscape also, which is more appealing to me for slide shows, move watching, really anything you'd want to with your iPad while it is parked on a table - while portrait is preferable for walking around.)

Seems like a no-brainer for me as far as convenience and mobility.

ciaran00
Mar 13, 2010, 09:41 PM
Or you can just wait for jailbreak and Veency and pay $0.

You can use your mouse with Veency, too :)

Veency can be used in tunnel mode thru usb... fyi

uberamd
Mar 13, 2010, 10:01 PM
The separate dock and bluetooth keyboard seems like a logical setup for me. More money? Yeah. However you can bring the keyboard with you and use the case as a stand if you wanted, or use the dock to use it as a picture frame and avoid having a keyboard stuck infront of it.

But I am having one thing I am having a hard time imaging... navigation. So you are typing away at an email using the BT keyboard and boom, I want to send it. What do I do? Reach up and tap send? Press tab a few times to highlight Send? Hot key? This all seems so strange without a cursor to navigate. Same goes with web browsing. Say I am typing a comment on MacRumors with the BT keyboard. Do I need to manually press Submit Reply, then undock the iPad so I can comfortably browse the site then redock to type another comment with the keyboard? This seems like a strange process.

blackNBUK
Mar 13, 2010, 10:14 PM
Or you can just wait for jailbreak and Veency and pay $0.

You can use your mouse with Veency, too :)

Veency can be used in tunnel mode thru usb... fyi

While running a VNC server on a iPhone/iPad seems kind of cool I can't see what the practical use of it is. If I'm sat at a Windows/Mac machine I'd be using the applications installed on that machine; not the Apps on my iPad.

ciaran00
Mar 13, 2010, 10:55 PM
While running a VNC server on a iPhone/iPad seems kind of cool I can't see what the practical use of it is. If I'm sat at a Windows/Mac machine I'd be using the applications installed on that machine; not the Apps on my iPad.
Um plenty.
-I use it at work to have beejive open, since our work intranet doesn't allow IM apps or connectivity to IM networks
-Use it when I'm texting a LOT. Keyboard really comes handy
-Use apps I prefer to Windows equivalents, but can't use because I have Windows (ie: Colloquy)
-Practice kanji strokes with my wacom - i like the iphone character recognition a lot
-iPad: The device lets me move my personal stuff (like my writing) out of my work laptop. Veency lets me access all that thru a keyboard/mouse.

... if I was to buy a separate keyboard, it would have to be something ultra compact and transportable.

The Apple offerings are as good as Veency, since with the bulk you'll probably have them in the same location as your PC or laptop anyway.

Except Veency's free.

Veency's also good for a lot of jailbreaking tasks, like futzing around in sqlite or terminal, or even installing stuff off of cydia.

And, Veency gives you a mouse. The keyboard alone doesn't have that. How exactly are you going to touch your iPad with it all tilted on that dock?

capitanbuzo
Mar 13, 2010, 10:55 PM
The separate dock and bluetooth keyboard seems like a logical setup for me. More money? Yeah. However you can bring the keyboard with you and use the case as a stand if you wanted, or use the dock to use it as a picture frame and avoid having a keyboard stuck infront of it.

But I am having one thing I am having a hard time imaging... navigation. So you are typing away at an email using the BT keyboard and boom, I want to send it. What do I do? Reach up and tap send? Press tab a few times to highlight Send? Hot key? This all seems so strange without a cursor to navigate. Same goes with web browsing. Say I am typing a comment on MacRumors with the BT keyboard. Do I need to manually press Submit Reply, then undock the iPad so I can comfortably browse the site then redock to type another comment with the keyboard? This seems like a strange process.

These were some of the reasons why I went for the Keyboard Dock and the rest relate to iPad specific buttons. I already own the Apple bluetooth keyboard but, since this is attached to my Mac Pro, I figured that I would not want to constantly be reconnecting the keyboard between devices.

Trek2100
Mar 13, 2010, 11:50 PM
Wow, didn't think of this! I will buy both the case and the standard iPad dock, and I will choose for the bluetooth keyboard. You're right. I don't want to be locked to the portrait mode.

And oh, no need of buying a Dock to USB cable. Quote from Apple's website;



So that should be fine. So the accessoires I will buy:

- The case
- Standard iPad Dock
- Bluetooth Apple Keyboard

EDIT: I can't seem to find the Bluetooth Keyboard at the Apple site anymore. Anyone got a url (keyboard which IS compatibly with the iPad)?

It has always been in the same place under Mice and Keyboards. It says Apple Wireless Keyboard. In the description it indicates MAC or iPad.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDA1Mg&mco=MTMzNzg5MDM

For me personally the dock is of no use if you have the case, but thats just me.

R.Perez
Mar 13, 2010, 11:56 PM
I say go for the wireless, which it looks like you will!

EssentialParado
Mar 14, 2010, 11:45 AM
But I am having one thing I am having a hard time imaging... navigation. So you are typing away at an email using the BT keyboard and boom, I want to send it. What do I do? Reach up and tap send? Press tab a few times to highlight Send? Hot key? This all seems so strange without a cursor to navigate. Same goes with web browsing. Say I am typing a comment on MacRumors with the BT keyboard. Do I need to manually press Submit Reply, then undock the iPad so I can comfortably browse the site then redock to type another comment with the keyboard? This seems like a strange process.

I'm sitting on my laptop right now, but I've imagined the screen as a touchscreen and I can easily imagine scrolling through these forums, and pressing buttons using the screen. I suppose it might be a bit disjointed to take your hands off the keyboard, but you need to do that with a mouse anyway.

(It's also possible they might incorporate keyboard shortcuts, like Cmd+Shift+D to send an email)

ThatsMeRight
Mar 14, 2010, 11:55 AM
These were some of the reasons why I went for the Keyboard Dock and the rest relate to iPad specific buttons. I already own the Apple bluetooth keyboard but, since this is attached to my Mac Pro, I figured that I would not want to constantly be reconnecting the keyboard between devices.
You have to push on the iPad anyway. Controls are exactly the same (except for top row) on the bluetooth keyboard and it won't connect, disconnect, connect, disconnect for every time you want to type something.

CristobalHuet
Mar 14, 2010, 11:55 AM
So the consensus is:

-iPad case
-iPad dock
-Wireless keyboard

Possible scenarios:

(1) Case for when you want to type in landscape/portrait (no keyboard)
(2) Case + Keyboard for when you want to type in landscape
(3) Dock + Keyboard for when you want to type in portrait and/or charge iPad
(4) Dock for charging iPad
(5) Case + Keyboard for when you want to type in portrait

Missing anything?

I still dunno about the combo above The keyboard dock looks like an attractive option for when you're at a desk (or in class), and the case looks good for everything else pretty much, but you can't dock and type in landscape... :confused: :(

That would be a dream, maybe in iPad 2.0 we'll get landscape docking as well? :D

EssentialParado
Mar 14, 2010, 12:23 PM
What I'm wondering is if the 'esc' key on bluetooth keyboards will substitute for the home button. That's quite clever if so.

CristobalHuet
Mar 14, 2010, 12:26 PM
What I'm wondering is if the 'esc' key on bluetooth keyboards will substitute for the home button. That's quite clever if so.

This is pretty much confirmed IIRC.

Clix Pix
Mar 14, 2010, 12:35 PM
I have the older version of the BT wireless keyboard, the one which uses three batteries. I"m wondering if it will work with the iPad...... I hope so, as I'd hate to have to buy the newer version for just this!

uberamd
Mar 14, 2010, 12:54 PM
I'm sitting on my laptop right now, but I've imagined the screen as a touchscreen and I can easily imagine scrolling through these forums, and pressing buttons using the screen. I suppose it might be a bit disjointed to take your hands off the keyboard, but you need to do that with a mouse anyway.

(It's also possible they might incorporate keyboard shortcuts, like Cmd+Shift+D to send an email)

I guess I see it more like typing infront of a netbook screen, then reaching to do multitouch gestures (zoom, etc). It just seems like it will be very awkward to reach forward with your hand an manipulate the device. Also if you look at the dock there isn't much support provided from it.

http://www.techhail.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/iPad-Dock-29.jpg

It doesn't go very high up the back of the device, and pressing on the very top of the iPad seems like it would easily create screen wobble, or heck even place strain on the dock connector plug. I see using the dock for a long winded email or forum comment, and definitely using it as a 'picture frame' of sorts; but short of that I don't see it being used long term for this style of device especially with a keyboard.

If I have the keyboard, chances are I am at home which means I can use my desktop or one of my laptops to accomplish the same task as the iPad.

ThatsMeRight
Mar 14, 2010, 12:55 PM
This is pretty much confirmed IIRC.
What's IIRC?

uberamd
Mar 14, 2010, 12:55 PM
What's IIRC?

If I Remember Correctly.

ThatsMeRight
Mar 14, 2010, 12:57 PM
I guess I see it more like typing infront of a netbook screen, then reaching to do multitouch gestures (zoom, etc). It just seems like it will be very awkward to reach forward with your hand an manipulate the device. Also if you look at the dock there isn't much support provided from it.

http://www.techhail.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/iPad-Dock-29.jpg

It doesn't go very high up the back of the device, and pressing on the very top of the iPad seems like it would easily create screen wobble, or heck even place strain on the dock connector plug. I see using the dock for a long winded email or forum comment, and definitely using it as a 'picture frame' of sorts; but short of that I don't see it being used long term for this style of device especially with a keyboard.

If I have the keyboard, chances are I am at home which means I can use my desktop or one of my laptops to accomplish the same task as the iPad.

But wouldn't it be much more fun to do those tasks on an iPad? :P

PsyD4Me
Mar 14, 2010, 01:37 PM
the connected makes it seems like one of those old school palm pilot keyboard dock setups, wireless for sure, although i plan on using neither. the screen is plenty for fast and accurate typing

ThatsMeRight
Mar 16, 2010, 09:06 AM
the connected makes it seems like one of those old school palm pilot keyboard dock setups, wireless for sure, although i plan on using neither. the screen is plenty for fast and accurate typing
Yes, it might be but if you want to type documents or so than I think it becomes annoying after a while to look down all the time.

wolfpackfan
Mar 16, 2010, 09:51 AM
I have the BT keyboard already, so won't need the combination. I have been planning to get the dock to use with my keyboard, but the more I think about it and look at it, I'll probably just get the case and use it to elevate the iPad enough to see as I use the keyboard. I am concerned also that if you use the dock a lot and keep pressing the screen, etc. it will eventually cause the dock connector to get messed up. I had that happen previously to a Dell Axim Pocket PC I had. It finally got so it wouldn't sync or charge.

Bytor65
Mar 16, 2010, 10:27 AM
Yes, it might be but if you want to type documents or so than I think it becomes annoying after a while to look down all the time.

If I wanted to write long documents, I would use my desktop rather than try to make this what it isn't.

wyneken
Mar 16, 2010, 10:36 AM
I suspect I'll end up with both, but I decided -- sort of impulsively, in the hurried process of pre-ordering last week -- to start with the keyboard dock, mostly because I'm interested in these (unspecified?) keys that trigger specific iPad functions.

As with many other aspects of this new device, I don't expect to know how I'll actually end up using it until I own one. I'm looking forward to this early period of trial and discovery a lot -- it's one of the pleasures (and frustrations) of being an early adopter.

ScrewTheDaisies
Mar 16, 2010, 10:39 AM
I ordered the BT keyboard, and I'm planning on using this $1.99 item for a stand, instead of the dock:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41v0g14uOAL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

I needed something smaller than the dock to fit in my bag, and I like that it's angle-adjustable. (It's unclear from the photos how angle-adjustable the Apple case is when in portrait mode, so I was hesitant to drop the money on it.)

I think I'm going to put a little grip tape around the bottom rear bar of the stand to help keep it from slipping when you press on the iPad.

v3rn
Mar 20, 2010, 03:55 PM
I originally purchased the keyboard/dock combo but then realized that if I wanted to just bring the dock somewhere, it would be a hassle because the keyboard would be attached. So I changed my order to the bluetooth keyboard and the dock separate. The problem I'm seeing is that the bluetooth keyboard is just the normal Apple keyboard. But the keyboard/dock combo is a specially made keyboard with extra buttons for the iPad. There are buttons to take you to search/home, music controls, brightness controls, volume, etc on the keyboard/dock combo. But those buttons are missing on the bluetooth keyboard.

Now I'm not sure which keyboard/dock combo that I want.

Any suggestions?

lorductape
Mar 20, 2010, 03:56 PM
Bluetooth. I doubt you'll miss the extra buttons.

Night Spring
Mar 20, 2010, 03:59 PM
Cancel keyboard and dock, wait until the reviews are in and we know whether or not the buttons on the bluetooth keyboard can act as special iPad function buttons, then decide which one to buy.

jasg49
Mar 20, 2010, 06:51 PM
Cancel keyboard and dock, wait until the reviews are in and we know whether or not the buttons on the bluetooth keyboard can act as special iPad function buttons, then decide which one to buy.After comparing my wireless KB with the picture of the KB+Dock, I am quite confident that the 14 special keys in the top row will work the same on both keyboards. Only the labels on the keys will be a bit funky on the separate keyboard.

If this weren't true, then Apple would not sell the separate KB as an iPad accessory.

anthonymoody
Mar 20, 2010, 07:07 PM
I faced the same dilemma. I went with the dock and BT keyboard.

I called Apple on pre-order day and was told that "they didn't know" whether or not the BT keyboard keys would be able to be re-mapped to mimic the special function keys on the keyboard dock. I was happy for their honesty to tell you the truth.

At the end of the day, I feel like it'll only be a matter of time before the keys can be re-mapped.

Most importantly, I prefer the portability/choice of keeping keyboard and dock separate. AND I prefer the positioning flexibility afforded by separate devices. Can't move things around with the keyboard dock. The relationship b/t screen and keyboard is fixed. Not so with separate devices...

Tallgrass
Mar 25, 2010, 07:12 PM
I like the BT keyboard. Can you sinc the wireless keyboard to the iPad right out of the box? or does it require some kind of setup. I have a HP laptop without bluetooth.

tivoboy
Mar 26, 2010, 02:42 PM
I think many people are moving in the BT keyboard direction, judging by how much prices have gone up on ebay for second hand BT keyboards. From about 35$ now more than 40-45$ just in the past week.

ThatsMeRight
Mar 26, 2010, 02:47 PM
bump

gr8ful
Mar 26, 2010, 04:29 PM
I will be waiting to see what third party solutions crop up. I am hoping for a folding bluetooth keyboard with a built-in dock for the iPad, much like the iGo Stowaway keyboards for PDAs.

pruppert
Mar 26, 2010, 04:55 PM
I will be waiting to see what third party solutions crop up. I am hoping for a folding bluetooth keyboard with a built-in dock for the iPad, much like the iGo Stowaway keyboards for PDAs.

Picking up on that, does anyone have experience with flexible (rollup) keyboards? Such a keyboard would be very portable, easy to roll up and toss into a bag.

But, I'm probably just going to go with the bluetooth apple keyboard since I already own one.

MTI
Mar 26, 2010, 05:00 PM
Unless you're a "collector" and buying for historical resale in the future, waiting for the 3rd party companies to ship their competitively priced and much more feature ladden versions is the smart way to go.

LadyHoneyBabe
Mar 29, 2010, 03:43 PM
I've been debating this for a while now and I wonder if anyone else has thought about this. I'm not sure if I want the Keyboard Dock combo or the iPad dock & wireless keyboard. I know one costs less than the other, but one gives a little more freedom than the other (because the wireless keyboard isn't connected to the dock). Decisions...decisions...decisions.

:apple:

Drumjim85
Mar 29, 2010, 03:44 PM
go for the wireless. it can also be used for other computers, unlike the all in one.

Epicurus
Mar 29, 2010, 03:46 PM
I'd say wireless. If nothing else, it should be easier to pack in a bag than the keyboard-integrated dock.

Night Spring
Mar 29, 2010, 03:51 PM
One more vote for wireless. You can use it with the iPad in both portrait and landscape orientations. If you use the dock, you are limited to portrait.

H00513R
Mar 29, 2010, 03:53 PM
Will the standard wireless keyboard from an iMac re-sync to the iPad?? Just a thought I had when reading the posts.

rtay
Mar 29, 2010, 03:59 PM
i went wireless + the dock. you can use the wirless keyboard with the case too and not have to take it out. its offers alot more flexibility, even though the keyboard dock would be really nice

Night Spring
Mar 29, 2010, 04:03 PM
Will the standard wireless keyboard from an iMac re-sync to the iPad?? Just a thought I had when reading the posts.

I don't think there's such a thing as an iPad wireless keyboard, it's just the standard Apple wireless keyboard, the same as comes with iMacs.

And yes, you can make your iMac "forget" the wireless keyboard, then couple the keyboard with any other compatible device, so I assume the same will work with the iPad.

ThatsMeRight
Mar 29, 2010, 04:23 PM
Unless you're a "collector" and buying for historical resale in the future, waiting for the 3rd party companies to ship their competitively priced and much more feature ladden versions is the smart way to go.
There's just one problem: I don't/can't wait :P

goobot
Mar 29, 2010, 04:57 PM
i like connected better.

cheaper, has dedicated buttons, and you dont have to remember the other piece or turn on your bluetooth.

bossxii
Mar 29, 2010, 05:05 PM
Wireless + separate dock. Mostly because I don't' think will want my screen that close to the keyboard when typing. Not to mention I already have a wireless keyboard sitting in the box I've never used with my iMac, so it's a freebie for me.

Night Spring
Mar 29, 2010, 05:08 PM
i like connected better.

cheaper...

They seem to be the same price.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC533LL/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY

goobot
Mar 29, 2010, 05:10 PM
They dont seem to be the same price.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC533LL/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
+dock

fixed

LadyHoneyBabe
Mar 29, 2010, 05:18 PM
I have a couple of questions:

1. If I use the BT keyboard, will it disable the onscreen keyboard?

2. Does the Keyboard Dock combo need to be plugged in to provide power to the keyboard or will it get power from the iPad (and drain the battery) if it's not plugged in?

:confused:

Night Spring
Mar 29, 2010, 05:20 PM
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY + dock

Ah. Gotcha. But not everyone will need a dock. Some might be getting a case that doubles as a stand, others might have stands sitting around their house that can hold the iPad. It's not required that you buy the wireless keyboard together with the dock.

goobot
Mar 29, 2010, 05:21 PM
Ah. Gotcha. But not everyone will need a dock. Some might be getting a case that doubles as a stand, others might have stands sitting around their house that can hold the iPad. It's not required that you buy the wireless keyboard together with the dock.

correct. but op was asking keyboard dock vs dock and keyboard.

Night Spring
Mar 29, 2010, 05:23 PM
correct. but op was asking keyboard dock vs dock and keyboard.

Oops, my bad, forgot about that! :p

GadgetX
Mar 29, 2010, 05:25 PM
The dock is over priced IMO I think eventually I'll get a bluetooth keyboard and something like this http://theappleblog.com/2010/03/18/tip-cheap-ipad-stand/

frank.deale
Mar 29, 2010, 05:28 PM
This depends on whether I can use the iPad keyboard dock without having to connect to an external power source. Does anybody know?

LadyHoneyBabe
Mar 29, 2010, 05:33 PM
I have a couple of questions:

1. If I use the BT keyboard, will it disable the onscreen keyboard?

2. Does the Keyboard Dock combo need to be plugged in to provide power to the keyboard or will it get power from the iPad (and drain the battery) if it's not plugged in?

:confused:

applesupergeek
Mar 29, 2010, 05:44 PM
Even if it's not plugged in the power that the keyboard will draw will be very, very negligible.

Clix Pix
Mar 29, 2010, 05:46 PM
Right now I'm planning to use my 2007 Apple BT keyboard with the iPad positioned on the copy/book holder that I bought yesterday. This to me offers more flexibility in placing the iPad and keyboard at optimal spacing from each other and from me. The keyboard dock does look useful, too, but I will be perfectly happy with the regular dock, at least for the time being, and will be using it primarily for charging the iPad.

Doju
Mar 29, 2010, 05:48 PM
Right now I'm planning to use my 2007 Apple BT keyboard with the iPad positioned on the copy/book holder that I bought yesterday. This to me offers more flexibility in placing the iPad and keyboard at optimal spacing from each other and from me. The keyboard dock does look useful, too, but I will be perfectly happy with the regular dock, at least for the time being, and will be using it primarily for charging the iPad.Why use the bookholder for the stand when you could just use the regular dock and the 2007 keyboard?

Damian.
Mar 29, 2010, 05:59 PM
I've been debating this for a while now and I wonder if anyone else has thought about this. I'm not sure if I want the Keyboard Dock combo or the iPad dock & wireless keyboard. I know one costs less than the other, but one gives a little more freedom than the other (because the wireless keyboard isn't connected to the dock). Decisions...decisions...decisions.

:apple:

I think this will help you a bit:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=862861&highlight=

Clix Pix
Mar 29, 2010, 06:05 PM
Why use the bookholder for the stand when you could just use the regular dock and the 2007 keyboard?

Because there will be times when I don't need to charge the iPad on the dock and/or won't want to plug into anything, just use my iPad either on my lap or on the bookholder.

LadyHoneyBabe
Mar 29, 2010, 06:29 PM
cool. I found a thread that had already been started about this.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=877257

I think this will help you a bit:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=862861&highlight=

Thanks. I posted that link too (lots of good info), but people keep posting in here, so I decided to go with the flow. :D

ipadking
Mar 30, 2010, 11:18 AM
I'm going to wait on the bluetooth or keyboard dock. When I first got my iPhone keyboard was hard to type on. But after a couple of months, I think it's easier to type on then my PC keyboard. My hands hurt a lot less with the iphone keyboard. I think it's going to be true for the iPad, just drop the physical keyboard, you hands will hurt much less on the iPad since they's no physical keypresses.