Poll: Your reaction to the iMac G5?

[MacRumors]

Vote: Poll: Your reaction to the iMac G5? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=423)

[samh004]

woot I was the first person on the poll, wow :)

so happy they finally replaced that stupid iPod poll :)

[whw5]

I hope they do a poll more often now. I dont want this one for the rest of the month. lol. My gut reaction to the imac was one of disapointment, but now I think its awsome.

[iMeowbot]

The iSlab is a nice machine, but I can't see myself patting it on the head when it does a good job. The iLamp stays employed for as long as it can keep up.

[stefman]

Wow!

It's very nice, Apple doesn't stop impressing!

However, I don't think I'll replace my iLamp soon though. It is my first Mac after all....sentimental value!

[redAPPLE]

Good, because the design did not have the "WOW!!!" effect, that the flat panel iMac gave me.

[wordmunger]

It's very good, but not Wow because it isn't a true luggable. A luggable iMac (designed to be easily moved around the house, with a battery), would have gotten a Wow.

[AmigoMac]

It's good, not really the wow I was waiting but Im really considering to get one ;) ... maybe on my desk will be wow!

[Chaszmyr]

Sheesh, is ANYONE actually getting one of these new iMacs? I don't know anyone who is, and i'm shocked by it.

[Knox]

I have it down as 'Good' - it's not amazing, but fits the bill nicely.

[ChicagoMac]

I had a strange urge to order pizza when I first saw the new Imac G5. I wonder if they'll offer pepperoni as an option?

Besides the fact that it looks like a pizza box, I think it's great that they were able to keep the price low. I really expected it to be more expensive than the previous model. I rated it as "good."

[boomtopper]

I absolutely love it. The technical problems they must have encountered must have been extremely hard. But look at the x86 world you will never see a desktop computer designed to be as small as that and be 64bit as well!!!
If only i had the money for one.

[wrldwzrd89]

I rated it Good. I have no plans to buy the 'iSlab', as someone else called it, since my 'iLamp' is staying with me until 2007.

[basiq]

This iMac is a great value computer.. Being an flat panel with 1.8 G5 Processor, for people like me that is the Graphic design, This is a heaven sent... Although, having the airport card and bluetooth included would have been really nice.. this computer is for those crt iMac people who would be most likely to convert to iMac G5.

[robotrenegade]

It should come with bluetooth and airport card. It's a nice design but its still just an iMac. I'll have to wait till I use one in person before I give it a better rating.

[relimw]

It should come with bluetooth and airport card. It's a nice design but its still just an iMac. I'll have to wait till I use one in person before I give it a better rating.

I only gave it a 'good' in the poll for this reason. It would've been a whole lot better with wireless options builtin for those prices.

PS Thanks for a new poll at last :)

[Sol]

The iMac G5 is very well designed but I hate the thought of being limited to one screen. Mirror-only output seems like a limitation imposed on the consumer lines to make the PowerBooks and PowerMacs more appealing. I would also prefer twice the graphics memory because the new generation of 3D games will be utilising the Doom 3 engine and that needs 128 MB to run well at the native resolutions of the iMacs.

As for the BlueTooth and Airport options, they should be built into the motherboards. These are features that new computer buyers would expect as standard options at those prices.

[sockeatingdryer]

It still looks to me like my eMac from the front. And I love my eMac's design. And I'm sure the eMac's still expandable enough to last me until graduation. Not enough to spend savings on, especially when I just got this one! :)

[Porsche]

The new design didn't have the same effect the iMac G4's did on me when I first saw it, but it is still very nice.

I voted 'Good'.

[wordmunger]

As for the BlueTooth and Airport options, they should be built into the motherboards. These are features that new computer buyers would expect as standard options at those prices.

I just priced a "comparable" dell w/17-inch flat panel monitor: $1229, bluetooth/wireless networking not even available as "options". So, "at those prices," apparently that's not what buyers expect.

link (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V592&l=en&oc=D46RH&s=dhs#bottom_anchor) (not sure this will work -- basically Dell 4600, P 4 2.8, lowest available non-integrated graphics card was a 128 Nvidia 5200).

[Yvan256]

It should come with bluetooth and airport card. It's a nice design but its still just an iMac. I'll have to wait till I use one in person before I give it a better rating.

And why would you want everyone to pay for options they'll probably never use? I plan on keeping all my wires, thank you (security concerns). Anyway bluetooth and airport are available as options so why are you even complaining?

I'd like a better GPU and more VRAM (even as an option) but it's not available, which makes the iMac G5 a no-sale for me. :(

[Macmaniac]

I gave it a good only because of the poor GPU, and only starting with 256 memory, can't Apple be nice and give you 512!

[AmigoMac]

I just priced a "comparable" dell w/17-inch flat panel monitor: $1229, bluetooth/wireless networking not even available as "options". So, "at those prices," apparently that's not what buyers expect.

link (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V592&l=en&oc=D46RH&s=dhs#bottom_anchor) (not sure this will work -- basically Dell 4600, P 4 2.8, lowest available non-integrated graphics card was a 128 Nvidia 5200).

Hardware integration gives a big plus to the iMac... No tower around... the iMac is a winner... but we always expect more and we are ready to complain and cry if we don't find what we want ...

P.S We= Most of Mac users, I have complained twice but not cried...

[eyeluvmyimac]

Who knows, maybe by next year apple will bump up the baseline ram to 368MB...lol Apple needs to get with the program, anything below 512, and soon 1gig is just a waste. As another member put it in a different thread:
"what's with the anemic ram?"

[wdlove]

I voted good, because there is always room for improvement. Usually I have to see a new Mac in person to really get the Wow factor.

Thank you arn, it's awesome to have a new poll. Hoping that coming Fall season means the return of daily polls again. ;)

[sorryiwasdreami]

Sheesh, is ANYONE actually getting one of these new iMacs? I don't know anyone who is, and i'm shocked by it.

Yes, mine is ordered and coming in a couple weeks.

It got the "wow" from me because it was a 2-inch thick G5.

[BornAgainMac]

I am Happy that the iMac isn't cripped with a G4 because of the powerbooks. It looks like the G5's will be for desktops and the new G4's will be for laptops. Perhaps the G4's should be rebranded to make people feel good.

I hope the revision-B iMacs have better graphic cards.

[macridah]

I like it. I just wish that 512MB ram was standard, 1.8 low end, 2.0 high end. I'm buying one ... actually, I already ordered one. 3-4 weeks ship time.

[Savage Henry]

Even though I agree with the design, what they wanted and where they wanted to go with it, but it just isn't the aesthetic replacement for it's sunflower-inspired elder brother. That and the RAM thing knocks it's rating to 'good'.

It's unquestionably 'good', but only 'good'.

[StudioGuy]

I rated it Good. I have no plans to buy the 'iSlab', as someone else called it, since my 'iLamp' is staying with me until 2007.

I like my iLamp too! The swivel feature gets used a lot.
Still, the new iMac is a fine computer. Just need to put it on a lazy-susan now... :p

[Wonder Boy]

I gave it a good only because of the poor GPU, and only starting with 256 memory, can't Apple be nice and give you 512!

when i bought my blue dalmation crt, it came with 64mb of ram. starting at 256 isn't that bad.

[nagromme]

"what's with the anemic ram?"
Same thing that's up with cars lacking floormats. Something else for Apple and Apple resellers to make a buck on. (Of course, you're better buying from OWC or someplace instead.)

Also, Apple can have a SLIGHTLY lower entry price by going with 256 RAM. The thing will still run--and be faster than many old machines that still serve well. That said, I'd recommend more RAM for anything but casual surfing/email/WP. (Yes it would benefit those casual uses, but not enough to be worth the $ until you get serious and do more.)


Sheesh, is ANYONE actually getting one of these new iMacs? I don't know anyone who is, and i'm shocked by it.
Nope, nobody's getting one. The new iMac is a total flop that everyone hates :rolleyes:

[Koodauw]

I didn't like it at first, similar to the new displays. But once I saw the display in person, it was a whole nother story. I hope to see one of the iMac in person, and will make decision then. It look promising though. I might just have to buy one.

[johnnyjibbs]

While I loved the elegance of the iMac G4, the iMac G5 just looks so much simpler and right. At first, I was not so pleased with the eMac-style look but it grows on you. I'd love to see one in person (hopefully in Apple Store London in it's November opening!). I'm really happy with my 12" PB but I know which desktop I'll be getting...

For the record, I voted "wow!"

[solvs]

It's ugly... and I want one.

I don't need wireless, I don't play video games, and I can buy my own RAM. It's not the old G4 iMac (that was a thing of beauty), but it's not an expensive design and has some good specs for once. $1299 is just the right price for this "pizza box" and I, for one, will get one as soon as I start working again and they are available in stores.

Though I do wish they'd have an upgrade option for the video card like they do for the P'Books, if nothing else than to quell the whiners who probably wouldn't buy it anyway. :p

[iMeowbot]

Sheesh, is ANYONE actually getting one of these new iMacs? I don't know anyone who is, and i'm shocked by it.
Yeah, I get the impression that this one isn't really meant to interest current Mac owners.

[MattG]

I like it, but not as much as the G4 design. Still, it's very impressive that they could fit all that into a space that small.

[NAG]

Yup, always room for improvement but very good none-the-less.

[revenuee]

The wireless built-in i guess i could live without --- would of been nice though.

But i can't find anywhere where it says Firewire 800 -- WTF?

and the graphics card only allows mirroring to external displays, they should really allow for dual display set-up.

with those two things, that machine would call out to us photo/video producers looking for G5, but still on a budget ... LOL

oh well ... i really like the over all minimalist design of the thing though

[zwida]

It got the "wow" from me because it was a 2-inch thick G5.

Same response, same reason.

Sure, I'd be happier if it had the option of a better GPU, but that's not a big enough reason for me not to buy one (my wife telling me that I can't buy one, on the other hand, is...). This may keep SOME people from buying it, I guess, but I just don't think it's going to slow sales on this thing. If you stand in an Apple store long enough to listen to shoppers, they're just not asking the kinds of questions that would lead you to believe that they know anything about graphics power.

I know that there will always be a segment of the population that DOES know about all this fun stuff. I guess I'm lucky that I get nifty equipment to use (on somebody else's dime) at work... for home this iMac would fit in perfectly.

[kenaustus]

Since I use a new 23" display at work (and love it!) I understood the design of the new iMac in a heartbeat and ordered a 20" version at 6AM on Tuesday.

Then I looked at the picture of the back with the cover off and could understand the need for the space under the display - the chin.

I voted Wow because the design is basically a new cinema display - with the 20" iMac starting $600 more than just the 20" display for a 64 bit computer with a SuperDrive.

Also a WOW because Apple cut the entry level 17" $500 from the G4 line and the 20"{ is a $400 price cut from the G4 line. Apple worked their ass off to bring a balanced G5 computer for a very reasonable price $1299 (before student discounts, etc.).

Anyone that doesn't like it should hold off a few weeks when the backorders will build up and nothing will be available until after Christmas. By that time there might be a 3rd party graphics card available . . . .

This one will be a hot seller.

Definately a WOW

[Yvan256]

Though I do wish they'd have an upgrade option for the video card like they do for the P'Books, if nothing else than to quell the whiners who probably wouldn't buy it anyway. :p

The PowerBooks have video options? Then why doesn't the new iMac have video options too! WHY!!!!!! :(

[dubbz]

Good... It was a Wow until I noticed its little weakness, which have been mentioned over, and over, and over again... (hint: it's not about the amount of RAM, since that's upgradable). Overall, I thought it was pretty cool, but in its current state it's not for me.

[Yvan256]

Also a WOW because Apple cut the entry level 17" $500 from the G4 line and the 20" is a $400 price cut from the G4 line. Apple worked their ass off to bring a balanced G5 computer for a very reasonable price $1299 (before student discounts, etc.).

I saved the Canadian store web page for the iMac G4 (before they updated it), and I'm sorry to tell you that us Canadians aren't getting any price break for the entry level 17"... The other two models are 430$ and 500$CAN cheaper than their previous counterparts, respectively.

The entry level 17" is still 1749$CAN, which is quite high. 1299$CAN and you'd have a lot more buyers! (of course) :D

Edit: I can spell ok, but sentence building not good I am at.
Edit2: middle 17" is 430$CAN cheaper not 500$CAN.

[FFTT]

Those who really know Apple have learned to beware of Rev A models.

Overall, the iMac G5 design concept does deserve a Wow rating.

Unfortunately, Apple has lost many potential sales by not offering
an upgrade to the long outdated 5200 GPU, especially on their 20" models.

I am hopeful that continued negative feedback regarding this issue will
motivate Apple to solve this problem before the holiday rush.

[Wonder Boy]

I am hopeful that continued negative feedback regarding this issue willmotivate Apple to solve this problem before the holiday rush.

what do you want them to do? upgrade the graphics card for halloween? or make bluetooth and wireless standard for thanksgiving? i'll bet most people who order a new imac won't even get theirs by halloween.

sorry if i came off a little harsh, nothing is meant by it.

[edenwaith]

Wow!

It's very nice, Apple doesn't stop impressing!

However, I don't think I'll replace my iLamp soon though. It is my first Mac after all....sentimental value!

I was just thinking a similar thing about my Bondi blue iMac today. Such beauty, design, and it still works! Just too bad it wasn't faster. After recently receiving a 1.25 GHz eMac, I am seeing how sluggish 233 MHz seems at times...even with OS 9! Maybe if I put Mac OS 7 on it...hmmm...

I don't like the latest iMac too much yet...it doesn't have enough of that house hold item appearance. No toilet seat, cheese grater, toaster, or lamp appearance. However, I wouldn't say 'no' if someone gave me one for free! I'm still waiting for the resources to get a 20" display and a G5 PowerMac.

[MacinDoc]

Liked it so much I ordered one! (BTW, the 20" model is a great price at the Apple Canda store, compared to the 20" Cinema Display, although I understand from the specs that the LCD is from the previous model of Cinema Display).

[ariza910]

One thing that has not been mentioned is that the G5 iMac is VESA compatible wich means there are tons of swing arm and wall mounts allready available.

The all in one design combined with VESA mounting means that these iMacs can be mounted just about anywhere with minimal effort.

I can already see these iMacs used in Kiosks at schools, malls, museums, mobile iTunes music store, etc.

[FFTT]

what do you want them to do? upgrade the graphics card for halloween? or make bluetooth and wireless standard for thanksgiving? i'll bet most people who order a new imac won't even get theirs by halloween.

sorry if i came off a little harsh, nothing is meant by it.


YES! :rolleyes:

The number one complaint about the new iMac G5,
above all others
is the outdated 5200 GPU.

They may not be able to offer a system wide upgrade to fix this problem,
but it is quite possible that they could offer upgrades to the top end 20" models before the end of the year.

Happy holidays!


;)

[kenaustus]

My guess is that nothing else was available when the iMac went to the market. Just because there is an option available for the PB (which I selected when I got my PB in April) does not mean one is available to Apple that meets their specs for the iMac.

Look at the pic of the inside of the iMac, remember that there are three thermal zones, a G5 running hot enough to get its own thermal zone and fan and a built in power supply.

Apple is going to be pretty demanding on what goes inside of this box and they will probably offer something when it is ready.

Also remember that offering an upgrade on the graphics board just adds more gross margin dollars to the sale of an iMac. They are not holding back because they want to be mean to Mac lovers. All the posts on all the boards will not pressure Apple to put in something that they are not happy with.

When they DO come up with another board then those with an iMac may well be able to put one in as the G5 is very open to the user - something that they G4 was not.

I'll wait until they have something they are happy with and then decide if I want to spend the money. Tiger might make the investment not worth while.

[iBook]

Really like the new iMac.

Nice clean design, and I love the footprint. Sleek and minimal on the desktop with the Bluetooth mouse/keyboard and Airport Express for the printer.

[wishful thinking]What would have made the iMac great is a better graphics card and the inclusion of said Bluetooth equipment as standard.[/wishful thinking]

Will probably be in line to buy a Revision B. As it is this year, I've bought an iBook :) , a Dell desktop :o and a replacement iPod :( .

[toughboy]

The new design didn't have the same effect the iMac G4's did on me when I first saw it, but it is still very nice.

I voted 'Good'.

absolutely same here... iLamp did a WOW effect on me, but my love for iMacG5 is strangely growing.. You know, just like music, there are songs that you love at first sight, and some that you got to know better and better and fall in love at last.. plus, the second type of love lasts more.. :) I guess I'm buying the iMac G5 RevB..

Plus, iMac G5 is really a good-buy.. a flat screen and a G5 and still all-in-one and the real futuristic design takes a 4 over 5 from me.. The "Tiger" will be the 5th star.. ;)

[evilgEEk]

The G4 iMac never really did it for me. It definately grew on me, but at first I thought it was just weird.

But the new G5 iMac is sweeeeet! It's the perfect desktop for me, well, within my price range ;). The "perfect" desktop would be a PowerMac of course. ;)

So, obviously, I gave it a "Wow"

Such a great machine, I can't wait to get one!

:D

[CrackedButter]

Last wednesday Apple Ginza didn't have anything about the new iMac, now this week since I went in yesterday (Monday), they have the iMac advert and a new sign in the window, it isn't taking up much since the ipods and in full view. I have a pic: http://homepage.mac.com/crackedbutter/PhotoAlbum37.html

just look to the right of the ipod mini's near the door. Sorry about the distance from object, but Apple Ginza doesn't like their photo taken, no japanese shop does actually. :)

Incase anybody is interested, the picture is 6mp with a Fuji S7000.

[macFanDave]

and QTVR, but I reserve the right to change my opinion once I see it in person.

To me, the Cube was one such thing that I had to see in person to appreciate its beauty and design. Before it came out, I was guessing the $999 would be a good price (and could move some Apple LCD monitors), but when Steve announced it was going for about $1,800, I immediately switched my prediction to "doom" (and I was right).

I'm predicting solid success for the iMac G5 (especially when word gets around that you can upgrade it easily to a very usable 512 MB for about $40 if you visit ramseeker.com).

With the iPod/iTMS duo being such a success in the digital music area, we need to add more "spokes" to the "digital hub" that Macs represent.

[ACED]

I really wanted to like it, however, to me it looks much too much, too similar to the eMac...in fact it should have been the new eMac IMHO

It's a crippled G5 in a tight box...with too many irritating limitations...as pointed out here by many....

To me, the concept of the iMac was the screen ... it was all you saw ... I would have prefered a slightly thicker box so all I could see was the screen ... this G5 iMac is dissapointing...not for me...I gave it a terrible.

Apple should have used a G4, lowered the price, and called it the new eMac...now that would have been wow!

[iNetwork]

I voted good because of the ability to vesa mount the SOB! The castrated bus speed, OLD graphics processor and 1.8 ghz just won't cut it for me. When the 1st speed bump comes out, I will buy one. I will then get a vesa arm, bluetooth kbd/mouse, and Airport Extreme. Freeing up my desk space will be entirely worth it. I can't imagine the wow factor when I "push" my entire computer 2' above my desk and I can work on paper... :eek:

[gopher]

I would have bought one had I not gotten the 17" Powerbook last year. If my Powerbook ever breaks down, I may have to spring for an iMac 20" with a 250 GB hard drive and a wall mount with bluetooth and airport. That would keep me happy for several years. Yes I like Firewire 800, but it isn't perfect yet. And the 64 MB of VRAM from the Radeon 9600 on my Powerbook is perfect. I don't see how the iMac's nVidia could be any worse.

[CrackedButter]

My girlfriend is going to get one of these, i think she is springing for the bottom end version. She was going to get an iBook, but considering the price and the fact that she will include a bag with the laptop plus the other extras such as mouse, the iMac may come out cheaper and last longer. I have the laptop that she was gong to get and I feel like getting an imac as well, photoshop is such a chore on this thing when working with images of 6 or 12 megapixels. I'm only doing college work as well!

[QuiteSure]

This is the ultimate "switcher" box for owners of the iPod. For that purpose it's truly great.

[Anonymous Freak]

This is one of the first Apple machines where the specifications and price are noticeably more impressive than the design in a long time. I mean, it's $400 cheaper than the old iMac for the same screen, and MUCH better internals.

[CmdrLaForge]

I really liked the design from the very first moment. Before the new iMac came out it was clear for me that my next Mac is a Powerbook. But in the meantime I am really considering the iMac. I will not get one before the next rev is out so I don't really care about the 5200.

[dieselg4]

I like it - it very much like a reinterpretation of the origional macintosh.

[ssamani]

Sheesh, is ANYONE actually getting one of these new iMacs? I don't know anyone who is, and i'm shocked by it.

I'm getting at least one and a friend is likely to be switching and purchasing one. Both of us will be going for 20" with various upgrades, e.g., BlueTooth, Airport, etc.

I concur with the rest, its not as loveable to Mac fanatics as the iLamp, but I reckon it is likely to get more interest from switchers because of, oddly, its relative dullness

Sanj

[StudioGuy]

Just need to put it on a lazy-susan now... :p

A Macintouch reader already found this solution: http://www.g5gear.com/ineck/

Now that's being ahead of the game!

[MacFan26]

Hoping that coming Fall season means the return of daily polls again. ;)
Did anyone catch that is says that at the top? Cool :)

[Apple of my eye]

1299 for a G5, w/ 17" LCD display, oh yeah beautiful to. It's like a supermodel who is cool with going to dinner at WENDY's.

[themadchemist]

A Macintouch reader already found this solution: http://www.g5gear.com/ineck/

Now that's being ahead of the game!

Yeah, I thought of something like that too. I'm glad someone had the initiative to actually act on a good idea.

However, the pricepoint seems a wee bit high for something like this. Let's just say that the profit margins must be ridiculous--I mean, early-90s-Apple ridiculous.

[kenaustus]

The company probably took a gamble that the G5 iMac would be the same as the new Cinema Displays in terms of the base and worked on it for a while before the iMac release. On that day they could send it off to be manufactured.. Not cheap, but not cheap plastic either.

I don't need it for my display so I'll probably pass on one for the iMac.


It is good, however, to see third party suppliers working hard on the new iMac design.

[OldManJimbo]

Good - started with Excellent (based on design) but gave deductions for - should have Bluetooth and Airport standard; should have more memory (512 minimum), should have dual-monitor capability.

[ariza910]

One thing that has not been mentioned is that the G5 iMac is VESA compatible wich means there are tons of swing arm and wall mounts allready available.

The all in one design combined with VESA mounting means that these iMacs can be mounted just about anywhere with minimal effort.

I can already see these iMacs used in Kiosks at schools, malls, museums, mobile iTunes music store, etc.

[slughead]

Everyone is wrong, the iMac is perfect.

The white space under the monitor? the poor speaker direction guaranteed to resonate your desk and make a buzzing noise? the video card being the low-end card from last year? the lack of a handle? the sub-par (350:1) contrast ratio? the fact that it's top heavy, has a smaller base, and has the cables on the far edge adding up to easier tipping? the the lack of an 8x write superdrive?

Nope, no valid complaints. You whiners "Just don't get it."

[notEven]

it's so good a design that the "geniousity" of it all makes itself transparant. it surely doesnt beg for anyones attention> and i highly doubt that was ever a goal. seems to me apple usually doesnt make products according to what people actually "want" > they seem to make products that they feel people "need". so far, i'm really impressed with the g5 design (case/hardware design) - im sure the process to get to the current end result was amazing and intensive. i wish i had a reason to own an imac.

[jefhatfield]

i said "wow" instead of just "good", but feel it's somewhere in between but closer to "wow"

if the entry level was $999 usd instead of $1299, i would say "wow" all the way

the only time i really felt the wow factor was early on with the imac g3 and clamshell ibook...the original prices were high by today's standards but in 1998 and 1999, $1299 and $1599 were competitive prices compared to offerings in the pc world

the $1299 g5 imac is not a bad price but you can get a seemingly equal 64-bit athlon 64 desktop for a grand with lcd monitor and lots of bundled software extras at office depot or circuit city...and many first time buyers might be scared of the imac's $1299 starting price tag which comes with way less software compared to any major brand pc box...apple gives the average user what they need and pc companies give the user too much software which will never be used

what you have to do is convince a computer newbie that the apple computer is really worth two hundred more due to reliability, ease of use, and great erogonomic design...that initial first step of faith to get someone to pay just a little bit more for an unfamiliar computer like a mac is what has stumbled apple inc for many years

[dwsolberg]

I voted good. I'm waiting for a video card update, then I will most likely buy one. I don't even play games, but video cards are used for more than gaming.

But what's amazing is that I never even considered an iMac before this came out. I mean, the specs are so much better -- bus is more than 3 times faster, processor is about 50% faster, hard drive is much faster, price is lower. And I admit that the video card is better than the iLamp, which is better than nothing. I think Apple has a real winner here.

[wrldwzrd89]

I voted good. I'm waiting for a video card update, then I will most likely buy one. I don't even play games, but video cards are used for more than gaming.

But what's amazing is that I never even considered an iMac before this came out. I mean, the specs are so much better -- bus is more than 3 times faster, processor is about 50% faster, hard drive is much faster, price is lower. And I admit that the video card is better than the iLamp, which is better than nothing. I think Apple has a real winner here.
I think you're mistaken about the graphics card. Both the last-generation 17" (which I have) and 20" iLamps have the nVidia GeForce 5200 Ultra as their graphics card. That same card is in the 17" and 20" iMac G5. Here's a link (http://www.apple-history.com/frames/body.php?page=gallery&model=imac_usb_2) to specs for the iLamp, and here's another link (http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html) to the specs of the iMac G5. The 15" last-generation iLamp DID have an older graphics card.

[BornAgainMac]

I have a monitor of similiar size to the iMac for my Powermac G5. I wanted my setup be like the iMac so I bought a wireless keyboard and mouse and placed my Powermac under the desk. Next I bundled the monitor's powercord and video connector together the best I could. I still have more difficult access to USB/firewire/DVD Burner but it keeps everything nice and clean. I don't like firewire and usb hubs because of the extra wires and A/C bricks. I wish I had the new 20 inch Apple monitor for those ports. But I do have Airport so I can place the Powermac anywhere I want in my house.

I call this setup my iMac Dual Processor Extreme system.

[slughead]

I think you're mistaken about the graphics card. Both the last-generation 17" (which I have) and 20" iLamps have the nVidia GeForce 5200 Ultra as their graphics card. That same card is in the 17" and 20" iMac G5. Here's a link (http://www.apple-history.com/frames/body.php?page=gallery&model=imac_usb_2) to specs for the iLamp, and here's another link (http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html) to the specs of the iMac G5. The 15" last-generation iLamp DID have an older graphics card.

Don't listen to these people, video cards are like a fine wine--they get better with age.

So what if it was the low-end card from last year? Now it's even better!

Don't compare it to what's out now, do what Apple tells us to do and compare it to last year's model (http://images.apple.com/imac/images/graphicschart08312004.jpg)!

Also, ignore graphs like these, they distort the truth by using real applications!
http://barefeats.com/image05/mot-pre.gif

Christ, stop whining people!

[Elan0204]

I voted "Good." I really like the new design, but am disappointed in the choice of video card. It's not even the 64MB of VRAM (although that should be higher), but the card itself is not very good. Spec issues aside, i still like the new look, and the some of the shortcomings in the specs won't stop me from buying one.

I do think the iMac G4 (iLamp) would have been a "Wow," though.

[wrldwzrd89]

I voted "Good." I really like the new design, but am disappointed in the choice of video card. It's not even the 64MB of VRAM (although that should be higher), but the card itself is not very good. Spec issues aside, i still like the new look, and the some of the shortcomings in the specs won't stop me from buying one.

I do think the iMac G4 (iLamp) would have been a "Wow," though.
Apple won't use a better video card for one simple reason - it would make the iMac G5 better (in one aspect) than the low-end PowerMac G5, which is something Apple does not want to happen. That happened due to 2 factors:
1. The lack of the latest video cards for Macs
2. Apple's desire to keep the price of the high-end PowerMac G5 (without tax) under US$3000.

It's an unfortunate situation for Apple, but one that Apple can't do much about. I would have liked to see a video card upgrade for the Rev. A iMac G5 too, but the dilemma Apple is in prevents them from doing so.

[sebisworld]

This is incredible. The vote has been on so long that I can now vote again, and it does not say that I have already voted.

[ASP272]

I love it. If I could afford it, I would buy one immediately. I would make sure I upgraded to all the options. I mean, if you're going to do an all in one computer, you might was well do it right. Fork out the cash for the top of the line (which lasts about a month or so). I do hate the fact it only has 64MB video ram as others have noted. Because I am a graphic designer, though, it would be my second computer - right next to my Dual 2GHz G5. :)

[FelixDerKater]

It may look better in reality, but from the pictures of the new iMac that I have seen, it doesn't look too appealing.

[MacPutz]

Holy Cow! An old Tekkie's dream come true. I envision this same machine with touch screen capabilities. Now that would be worth being beamed up for!

Lets hear it for the iMac TouchSlab!

iLamps, we hardly knew ye......

[iLilana]

How is it that after 2 years of 32 meg video cards in iMacs they can only seem to bring it up a tad. One thing I don't like about any iMac or even eMacs or the AIO concept is the restrictiveness. Which also makes me wonder how a base modular machine could cost more than an AIO.

could it have been that hard to add an 8x AGP slot for optional video upgrades?... And don't go on about how much it would cost to impliment... This could be another innovative step in personal computing. Developing a new compact video card i/o node. Maybe someone could come up with an idea for an external video card for aio machines. ugh.. apple..

messege to steve jobs.
I love the new iMac but video video video

now.. touch screens... make them standard in all macs and monitors.

[macFanDave]

Which will come first: a new MacPoll or the iMac G6?

A) New MacPoll
B) iMac G6
C) Godot

[wrldwzrd89]

Which will come first: a new MacPoll or the iMac G6?

A) New MacPoll
B) iMac G6
C) Godot

I choose 'C' because I don't know what "Godot" is and it sounds interesting. I'm with you on the MacPolls - why aren't they being updated regularly anymore?

[relimw]

Which will come first: a new MacPoll or the iMac G6?

A) New MacPoll
B) iMac G6
C) Godot

D) None of the above

My guess would be the dual core powerbooks would be next, then a poll asking us how we like the new powerbooks. I'd also expect a speed bump on the emac for that matter. Guess we'll see soon :)

[autrefois]

I choose 'C' because I don't know what "Godot" is and it sounds interesting.

"Waiting for Godot" is an existential play by Samuel Beckett (the author, not the guy from Quantum Leap :)) where the two main characters are waiting around for someone named Godot to come during the whole play, but he never comes.

The play came out roughly the same time as this Macpoll...I think I read somewhere that Beckett was thinking of an Apple two-button mouse when writing the play.


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I think the iMac G5 is really cool, and I'm glad it's getting such good reviews in the press! Looks like another big success for Apple—they're definitely on a roll! :D

[crenz]

I quite like it, after hearing that the components can be easily replaced. The design is not stunning, but clever. I hope it'll be a good success.

[edesignuk]

I like it, I like it quite a lot in fact. Yes, the video card is pretty *****, and 256MB standard RAM is a joke, but at the new price point I can forgive these small things. £1k for the 1.8GHz 17" is great value IMO. A Windows using mate of mine has even said to me last night he's gonna buy one.

I ordered my 20" yesterday, can't wait for it to arrive (< 2 weeks) :D

[Rxke]

I think it will appeal to a lot of switchers...

Funny: most Mac users I know are underwhelmed by the design, but Windows-users seem to be quite impressed...

A lot of people I know are having some kind of mental image of how a computer should look like, and they could not see the 'lamp' as a serious, 'real' computer... (Same thing with the cube, people seemed to be... Not ready for computers not looking like classical computers... Ugly big boxes...)

The new iMac looks better in their opinion: a 'kewl' big flatscreen, with built in computer, they go 'wow, great!' The idea of miniaturisation they relate with, as long as it is packaged in a 'serious' form. Weird.

So, it could prove to cause an avalanche of switchers on the desktop front.

[DuhMacDude]

My review of the iMac G5:
I'm being PRACTICAL here...okay...
All this hype...all this excitement...for the imac. Yes, it's faster than the previous one...but it's not good enough. Geforce fx 5200 ISN'T a crappy video card?! wuteva! One year old (budget gfx card) technology is VERY old in the graphics business...and it's almost 2 years old now actually. When you compare it to the newly released geforce 6600 and x700, it's like 1/2 to 1/3 the speed!! Don't expect to play any of tomorrow's games on this thing. Doom3? You're dreaming. Probably run it at 1024x768 and medium quality (what's the 17 inch monitor with 1680 x 1050 resolution for then?). And... the cpu is slow. I know about that u can't compare different architectures together...but 1.8GHz G5? seriously...it doesn't compare well with a similarly priced 3.0ghz p4. At $1200, apple should at least give a good cpu and graphics card. Apple sacrifices too much performance for good looks. I'd rather have a 2.3 ghz g5 in this thing and have it thicker than a dinky 1.8ghz.
Anyhow...my impression has remained the same for both imacs: the design is good, but the hardware and pricing are bad. If apple wants to win pc converts...it should do something more unique...for example they could make it like a media center pc...or add INCLUDED wireless and bluetooth. Also, it has to be CHEAPER and BETTER in all aspects compared to a similarly priecd pc. sorry apple...if i were going to buy a mac...i'd rather wait and bust my bux for a powermacg5 or amd fx-53 (or the soon fx-55)

[kenaustus]

Duh (good name)

Read the articles reviewing the new iMac and you'll find that it IS well priced - BELOW both Dell and Gateway for similar models.

The base 17" model is $1,299 - Gateway has a 15" AIO that is more expensive. Yup, 15" and it costs more.

Super cheap PC's are going to have the GPU that doesn't compare to the 5200, which is actually the 53200 Ultra, and the Ultra will work with the advanced graphics that is coming in Tiger.

Take some time to compare the base 17" iMac to the base 12" iBook. $200 more and you get a 17" monitor, more than double the HD capacity and a G5 instead of a G4 processor.

Obviously the iMac is not designed for the die hard Doom 3 player - the real Doom pros in that area spend 3 to 4 times the cost of an iMac on their rigs.

It is, however, a fantastic computer for those whose life does not center around Doom. It's a great design and will perform exceptionally well for the things they do every day on a computer - plus make it easy to do things that can't do on a PC because it includes iLife. iLife? Why is it that the big PC makers like Dell can't add something like that on their computers for free, just like Apple?

In the real world the G5 iMac is going to be as big a hit as the iPod. the big time doom players are looking at a 2.5 PowerMac with a 30" display.

[jefhatfield]

like mentioned if the design was not quite as nice, but the interior had a faster g5 and a better video card, i think the overall package would get more switchers, but not that many more

apple has always been a step behind what they put inside their machines, but the outside design and operating system has always been a step ahead

no computer can have the most cutting edge os, industrial design, and the best and fastest components all at the same time and still be 1299 usd

and even if the imac had all the best guts inside and best look, people out there are comfortable with windows xp and will not consider a machine with another os in it...it's sad and microsoft, now through people's choice, has become a monopoly...but they used aggressive tactics to get recognized in the early days

[asphalt-proof]

Wow!

It's very nice, Apple doesn't stop impressing!

However, I don't think I'll replace my iLamp soon though. It is my first Mac after all....sentimental value!


I would have given it a wow except for the graphics card. I know it probably had to be the one to go in because of heat/space issues but still... kind of a bummer getting stuck with that vid card.

I'm with you sefman, my iLamp is my first mac and will remain in the family till it dies.

[kenaustus]

Before worrying about the speed of the G5 there is a need to remember that PC chips have the burden of an x86 base and Windows has the burden of massive backward compatibility - both which slow the performance of the PC chip.

The G5 is a far more efficient design and a 1.8 is no slouch. As Apple and third party software increases the 64 bit optimization the chip will get even faster and perform better than PCs will with the upcoming Longhorn. (Longhorn will have system requirements that are not even available yet.)

The GPU is not the base 5200, but is the 5200 Ultra and is designed to work with the advanced graphics features in Tiger as well as taking care of current users at a very good level. When there is a good upgrade that meets Apple engineer's standards I believe it will be offered as a BTO option as it only increases gross margin dollars - just like the Bluetooth option does. Serious gamers are not going to buy a base model computer so they will always need to look elsewhere to get the fastest possible performance. That is not what the iMac is all about.

Switchers? Most people walk into a discount store and are told to avoid Apple ("too expensive and no software available") by a commission salesman. Or they hear that they should buy a Dell and go on line - spending more for less computer than Apple provides. They don't "switch" because they don't know any better. iPods will help get people to look at the Mac because they see how it works from using iTunes. The new design will also draw the iPod users in (when it's in stock) and will get switchers as long as there is an informed salesman around to help explain what the Mac is about.

Watch the availability between now and Christmas if you think it is not going to be a very hot seller. I think you'll be surprised.

[janmc]

LOL! I'm very impressed at the intellectual level of mac users! Waiting for Godot is one of my favourite plays. To compare it with the interminable wait for the 2 button mouse is genius!

Edit - I messed up the quote below by deleting some important characters. It's still excellent though.

BTW - my iMac is waiting at home for me! Woohoo
:p


[QUOTE=autrefois]"Waiting for Godot" is an existential play by Samuel Beckett (the author, not the guy from Quantum Leap :)) where the two main characters are waiting around for someone named Godot to come during the whole play, but he never comes.

The play came out roughly the same time as this Macpoll...I think I read somewhere that Beckett was thinking of an Apple two-button mouse when writing the play.

[wrldwzrd89]

I would have given it a wow except for the graphics card. I know it probably had to be the one to go in because of heat/space issues but still... kind of a bummer getting stuck with that vid card.

I'm with you sefman, my iLamp is my first mac and will remain in the family till it dies.
Heat/Space is not the only reason that the iMac G5 got that graphics card. The other reason is that upgrading the graphics card on the iMac G5 would make it better than the low-end PowerMac G5 - something Apple wants to avoid. The reasons the low-end PowerMac G5 has that graphics card are keeping costs down and the lack of truly top-end graphics cards for Macs. Believe me, Apple would love to put the ATI Radeon 9800 XT Mac Edition as the main card in the top-end PowerMac, and the ATI Radeon 9600 XT as the card for the other two PowerMacs. Apple can't do that if they want to keep the price of the top-end PowerMac (excluding sales tax, obviously) below US$3000.

[cb911]

well i voted Wow! because it's a pretty good design, and i didn't see that one coming... :p

and to add to the wow factor, they've got a wall mount for it. :D that's pretty wow.

of course the RAM and graphics card could be better... but i'm voting from my response when i first saw the iMac G5 unvelied. :D

[DuhMacDude]

i still don't understand why apple didn't put a better gfx card...if it's because of heat issues, then they could've used the mobility radeon 9800, it's prbly even faster than fx 5200 ultra...as for pricing, i checked dell and u can get a 3.0ghz computer with a 17 inch monitor and gfx 5200 for about 1400...--still a better buy.

[kenaustus]

i still don't understand why apple didn't put a better gfx card...if it's because of heat issues, then they could've used the mobility radeon 9800, it's prbly even faster than fx 5200 ultra...as for pricing, i checked dell and u can get a 3.0ghz computer with a 17 inch monitor and gfx 5200 for about 1400...--still a better buy.

Apple offers what their engineers sigh off on. Unlike PC boxes you are not going to be able to pick up just any part an throw it into the iMac - there is simply too much thermal engineering in it for that.

If you think the Dull is a better buy then buy it. You'll be back soon enough. Just give thought to what you need to do before you put it on the internet. Got SP2? Better install it from a CD before you go onto the internet and then hope your apps are compatible.

You probably wouldn't enjoy an iMac anyway - you're too concerned about the tech specs to be able to enjoy the experience it provides, a common problem with PC users. Personally, I'll continue my total switch to Macs as I have found out the difference in the total experience. The last Dull at the office has been replaced and my 20" iMac shipped today, which means the old Dull at home is gone.

Just avoid all the reviews that say Dull is more expensive than the iMac for comparable configurations - you'll find them depressing as you work to maintain your Dull & Windows . . .

Oh, just one techie comparison you forgot - 64 bit -vs- 32 bit :D

[DuhMacDude]

Apple offers what their engineers sigh off on. Unlike PC boxes you are not going to be able to pick up just any part an throw it into the iMac - there is simply too much thermal engineering in it for that.

If you think the Dull is a better buy then buy it. You'll be back soon enough. Just give thought to what you need to do before you put it on the internet. Got SP2? Better install it from a CD before you go onto the internet and then hope your apps are compatible.

You probably wouldn't enjoy an iMac anyway - you're too concerned about the tech specs to be able to enjoy the experience it provides, a common problem with PC users. Personally, I'll continue my total switch to Macs as I have found out the difference in the total experience. The last Dull at the office has been replaced and my 20" iMac shipped today, which means the old Dull at home is gone.

Just avoid all the reviews that say Dull is more expensive than the iMac for comparable configurations - you'll find them depressing as you work to maintain your Dull & Windows . . .

Oh, just one techie comparison you forgot - 64 bit -vs- 32 bit :D

btw...i'm a mac user...(& pc)
anyhow...pc's are faster for the price...as for 64 bit...it doesn't really have all the benefits that ppl say...it lets u address more memory...some other minor benefits but it isn't like gonna be twice as fast...just look at amd 64 and u'll see. Hey, even though dell's look "dull", at least they have pretty good hardware.

[kenaustus]

Hey, even though dell's look "dull", at least they have pretty good hardware.

If you had gone through the same problems I have for the past two years you wouldn't say that. Hardware problems, infections even behind a company firewall and Norton kept up to date.

Speed doesn't count for much when you have to reinstall on a business computer - it's the days lost reinstalling and checking data that does count.

For me the PC world is heading very fast towards a crisis point with Windows. Backward compatibility is a huge albatross around MS's neck and they are not able to keep up. IE security improvements for only XP? Longhorn having features pulled out left and right and still 2006 beta testing? Massive increases in virus/worm attacks?

I used PCs since the days of DOS and only started using a PB for business travel just over 2 years ago - to avoid infection problems while on overseas business trips. Over the last 2 years the comparison between a Dull and a Mac have been very clear and I'm moving everything to Mac.

Now there is a new PB & new 23" display for work & business trips, a new iBook for my wife to use at her job and a new iMac for use at home. I don't care if Dull (or any other PC maker) starts delivering a 5 GHz Pentium for $499 - the price of USING one is too high and the Mac will still be cheaper for me.

By the way, I do think that 64 bit is going to become more important. Tiger will probably have a significant increase in optimization for 64 bit and smart software companies are going to address this, just as they did for the move from 16 to 32 bit processors. Over the life of the iMac and the Dull the iMac is going to be ahead.

[cxny]

Having seen it in the Soho Store it's a WOW although mine hasn't arrived yet. The price point is good and I'll slowly replace the aging snow iMacs in my office w/ a G5 network.

[slughead]

Apple offers what their engineers sigh off on. Unlike PC boxes you are not going to be able to pick up just any part an throw it into the iMac - there is simply too much thermal engineering in it for that.

I doubt this. Those 9700 Mobility cards are PLENTY cool. The 5200, by the way, is a non-mobility card.

I think the issue is definitely cost, or Apple being scared of the iMac eating into its powermac sales (which is BS anyway because if it weren't for the iMac, Apple'd be dead right now and there'd be no powermac). Plus the fact that Apple makes plenty of profit off both machines, and don't get me started on the specifics of THAT.

[autrefois]

LOL! I'm very impressed at the intellectual level of mac users! Waiting for Godot is one of my favourite plays. To compare it with the interminable wait for the 2 button mouse is genius!

Thank you very much. :D

BTW - my iMac is waiting at home for me! Woohoo
:p

You're lucky! I have yet to even see one. I hear it looks better in person than it does in pictures, so I can't wait.

[blissed]

Desktop Computers are so... 90's. Whatever. Put a folding keyboard on the iMac and call it what it is. :eek:

[stoid]

After having gone to the Apple Store today, I think that the 17 inch machines are rather ugly. There's far too much white space and miniaturizes the monitor. The 20 inch version though is truly a work of art, and I'd drop the bills on it right away if I had them to spare. I take that back, actually, I'd probably get the 20 inch display for my PowerBook instead of the iMac G5.

[wrldwzrd89]

I doubt this. Those 9700 Mobility cards are PLENTY cool. The 5200, by the way, is a non-mobility card.

I think the issue is definitely cost, or Apple being scared of the iMac eating into its powermac sales (which is BS anyway because if it weren't for the iMac, Apple'd be dead right now and there'd be no powermac). Plus the fact that Apple makes plenty of profit off both machines, and don't get me started on the specifics of THAT.
First of all, I don't think Apple was willing to put a mobility graphics card in a desktop machine. Apple probably used the slot-loading CD drive in the iMac (which is a drive meant for laptops BTW) because the design forced them to. Personally, I don't think Apple's product differentiation policy is BS at all. I suspect that Apple does it to give each product a clear market so that consumers are less likely to be confused or undecided about whether to buy, say, a PowerBook or an iBook. There's a simple reason for Apple's profit margins being what they are - lack of sales volume. I strongly suspect that if sales of Apple computers suddenly doubled, the price of each Mac Apple sells would drop, and Apple would either (depending on how bold it decides to be with price cuts) break even or make even more than before.

[edesignuk]

Desktop Computers are so... 90's. Whatever. Put a folding keyboard on the iMac and call it what it is. :eek:What? :confused:

[kenaustus]

There is another rather important reason why Apple NEEDS a higher gross margin than other companies, like Dull. Apple DEVELOPS, and they develop both software and hardware. Dull buys Windows at a rather cheap price and spends very little on R&D for hardware development. Do you really think Dull designs their notebooks?

Look at a few areas where Apple spends R&D money. OS X is at the top of the software list. They are bringing out features in Tiger in a few months that MS is taking out of Longhorn that will be out in a couple of years. Throw in iLife, iTunes for Windows, Final Cut Express, Keynote and the Pro Apps and there is an impressive range of software that no other consumer/pro computer company delivers. On the hardware side Apple invested a huge effort into developing the G6 along side IBM's 64 range and they continue to do so. Major dollars there. Big time money spent on other little things like the iPod, iSight and Airport Express.

Then there is the design work they do. Look at how elegantly designed the various products are. Everything from iPods and iSight to the new iMac and notebooks.

No one invests like Apple and we've benefited from that in spades. That's where the additional gross margin goes and we're lucky it does.

[Mertzen]

A bit sceptical at first I now love the new iMac .. clean and powerful at an amazing price point ..

If I didn't have the 23" ADC LCD I would have gotten a 20" iMac G5 by now ..

[slughead]

First of all, I don't think Apple was willing to put a mobility graphics card in a desktop machine.

Why not? Aside from cost. Cooler, smaller, faster than the 5200.

Also, someone else was talking about "engineers signing off" on various things.. well the 9700 mobility (a much, MUCH faster card than the 5200) has been out for over a year, surely they must have considered it.

[wrldwzrd89]

Why not? Aside from cost. Cooler, smaller, faster than the 5200.

Also, someone else was talking about "engineers signing off" on various things.. well the 9700 mobility (a much, MUCH faster card than the 5200) has been out for over a year, surely they must have considered it.
Apple's scared of taking away their PowerMac sales - that's why.

[gopher]

Overall I'm impressed with the new design, the accessibility of the design, and thinness of the machine. If I didn't already have a Powerbook G4 17" the 20" iMac g5 would be first on my hit parade! Still I would like to see Firewire 800 built-in, and better ethernet, and dual display support. The videocard isn't important to me.

I'm not subscribing to this thread, but if you have any questions, you can send me a private message.

[robotrenegade]

I saw the new iMac today and it is ugly in every letter of the word.

[coumerelli]

There is another rather important reason why Apple NEEDS a higher gross margin than other companies, like Dull. Apple DEVELOPS, and they develop both software and hardware. Dull buys Windows at a rather cheap price and spends very little on R&D for hardware development. Do you really think Dull designs their notebooks?

Look at a few areas where Apple spends R&D money. OS X is at the top of the software list. They are bringing out features in Tiger in a few months that MS is taking out of Longhorn that will be out in a couple of years. Throw in iLife, iTunes for Windows, Final Cut Express, Keynote and the Pro Apps and there is an impressive range of software that no other consumer/pro computer company delivers. On the hardware side Apple invested a huge effort into developing the G6 along side IBM's 64 range and they continue to do so. Major dollars there. Big time money spent on other little things like the iPod, iSight and Airport Express.

Then there is the design work they do. Look at how elegantly designed the various products are. Everything from iPods and iSight to the new iMac and notebooks.

No one invests like Apple and we've benefited from that in spades. That's where the additional gross margin goes and we're lucky it does.

And a very good reason WHY they're more expensive than other computers.

Very well said. This post needs to be on the front page of every news site around the world to let every one know just WHY we pay top dollar for our macs.

Thank you, kenaustus. :)

[kenaustus]

For those that think the iMac is expensive check out:

http://osopinion.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2350

They compare the base iMac with a comparable DIY PC and the iMac is $300 CHEAPER. Yup, cheaper by $300.00 and that doesn't include the value of the elegant design over a $40 case. Pay more, get Windows and UGLY to boot.

[Ninja_Turtle]

hey look, another month with the same poll!
whoopie!

[runningman]

I think the design is awesome. Still like the swivel stand though. Will wait and see how people like it in their homes/work prior to buying though.

[kenaustus]

I think the design is awesome. Still like the swivel stand though. Will wait and see how people like it in their homes/work prior to buying though.

There was a very thin adapter announced by a third party within a week of the iMac announcement. Very thin, same aluminum and around $80. Shipping in Oct.Nov. Can't remember the name, but will try to find it.

I don't think most people will be swiveling the 20" very much though.

[janmc]

Spent the weekend playing with new computer - I think it looks so much better in 'real life' than in the pictures. All the visitors to my house were extremely impressed - it got lots of compliments. The best thing though was when they asked how much it was, and realised that it was under €1500...

As someone said, why would a home user buy a PC when they can get an elegant machine for that kind of money?

[junx069]

was a little so-so about it when it first came out... but it has really grown on me, and may consider it when I get a new mac. Although, the PowerMac is the way I have gone in the past and may continue in the future.

[wrldwzrd89]

was a little so-so about it when it first came out... but it has really grown on me, and may consider it when I get a new mac. Although, the PowerMac is the way I have gone in the past and may continue in the future.
I like the iMac G5's design too - but I think I'm also going to get a PowerMac to replace my iMac G4 (iLamp).

[kenaustus]

My new iMac arrived today and it is very impressive. When compared to the PM I would not argue against the PM at all - it has twice the kick!

For me the iMac is an exceptional value, gets rid of the clutter of a box & screen & speakers at home and provides an experience that is better than the 1.5 15" PB I use at work. When you consider that the base model is only $200 more than the base iBook it is an excellent value - and rather good looking!

[Ninja_Turtle]

woot I was the first person on the poll, wow :)

so happy they finally replaced that stupid iPod poll :)


yeah, well now we are stuck with the iMac poll for a month

[lostandbusted]

everything seems nice to me except for the gpu...can you actually swap the graphics card out with a mobile one or will it cause problems, or will it even fit? aren't the pins different on a mobile gpu than a regular?

also, since i'm not a mac user yet (but hope to be in the near future--right now *bsd user), will the graphics card even hold up to any of the new games (like ut2004) or will it be slow and crappy? i know if that's all i had on a pc the game would suck...but they might have something working different with the games for the macs...

[wrldwzrd89]

everything seems nice to me except for the gpu...can you actually swap the graphics card out with a mobile one or will it cause problems, or will it even fit? aren't the pins different on a mobile gpu than a regular?

also, since i'm not a mac user yet (but hope to be in the near future--right now *bsd user), will the graphics card even hold up to any of the new games (like ut2004) or will it be slow and crappy? i know if that's all i had on a pc the game would suck...but they might have something working different with the games for the macs...
The graphics card is SOLDERED to the motherboard and CANNOT be removed or swapped (safely). If I were you, I wouldn't even bother trying to run UT 2004 on any Mac and stick with the other games that aren't PC ports. Examples include RealMyst and games from any of the numerous Mac shareware developers. (That's just me, though - I don't play UT and games like it, so I'm not exactly the best source of information.)

[lostandbusted]

hmm...so how does RealMyst run under the gpu?

[wrldwzrd89]

hmm...so how does RealMyst run under the gpu?
Believe me - it runs GREAT. Nice and smooth, even at the highest detail setting - constant 30+ FPS. Just because the GPU is attached to the iMac with solder doesn't mean that it won't perform like the add-in card version. How do I know this, even though I don't own an iMac G5? I own an iMac G4 that has the same GPU as the iMac G5 - that's how.

[samh004]

jeez this poll is still here :eek:

it's now got more votes than that stupid iPod one had :(

I hope a new one is added soon...

[samh004]

another day and we will have had this poll for a month...

[relimw]

lol me too... but has someone at MacPolls died or what?! They used to be regular!!

It seems our fearless leader (arn) is now an intern (I'm presuming some form of doctor) which means ~80 hour work weeks.

[sigma]

I have an idea. Lets try to vote for 'Terrible' so much we sway the poll ^_^

[im_noahselby]

another day and we will have had this poll for a month...

What happened to Mac Polls? There used to be a new one each day, and now they've all of a sudden stopped? Does anyone know why? :(