getting carded when going out, ages reactions to ID's etc

[acidrock]

I was 25 at the time, am now 26, but I went out with a old relative to eat, to take them out. He wanted to go over to the bar side, and the waiter askes me are you over 21? I don't look anywhere near 21 but thought it was funny. then I showed him my ID and he looked at it really hard even though the face was forward. Some people have said they are carded because they have to ask all young people that but I went to clubs when I was 21 and just got asked to show an ID. What have been your experiences going to bars and clubs with getting Id-ed. -nathan

[kanker]

Most places in the States you are REQUIRED to have your ID in order to be in a bar, even if you're 80, and you and the bar can be fined if you aren't in possession of your ID. I've been hanging out in bars since I was 17 (I'm a professional musician). I'm 31 now and I can count on one hand the number of times that I've been carded going into a bar.

[sorryiwasdreami]

I'm 26 and I get carded everywhere: bars, clubs, restaurants, casinos, concerts, etc. The only place I don't get carded is in other countries.

[baby duck monge]

i just turned 21 and i almost never get carded. of course, i was never really carded before i turned 21, either. just lucky that way, i guess.

[jefhatfield]

i usually got carded until about 35, but now it rarely happens but when it does, it's very nice

the middle aged frump and gray hair definitely makes me look over 21 and it's obvious my skin isn't as tight and smooth as just five years ago...most people stop looking very young between 30 and 40 and it's only the very rare 40 year old who can p*** for a 21 year old

about age, it's still obvious demi moore looks older than ashton kutcher but she is about as well put together as any person can be at 40...it also doesn't help that ashton plays a high school aged student on tv ;)

[Kwyjibo]

Haha, i'm 19 and I go out to the campus bars near me. I can usually get a few drinks at the bar .. i guess I look old enough .... who knows

[iJon]

i go to some campus bars as well. there is this one we always go to because they never card. go in and order a couple of pitchers and we are set. for going to liquor stores we just use our fakes which work great. hopefully we won't get caught anytime soon. fakes with your own pic is a felony now.

iJon

[MacAztec]

Hah I have never tried to buy liquor at a store. usually a friend has an fake id so he just gets it. It was so funny this summer, we found some black guys ID, he was like 23. It was his driver's license. So we were hammered and someone was like "i want to go get some beer but I don't have an ID", then my friend was like "wait, use this!" and gave him that ID. The guy didn't use it but it was hilarious.

[acidrock]

no I mean getting carded is totally normal, but this guy said are you over 21 lol, I am 26 and was about turn that when this happened. I have asked my grandparent to let me take him out to eat there again. When I got carded before they just said can I see your ID, there was a difference.

[Doctor Q]

I remember a very young looking high school drama teacher who got tired of being challenged all the time. So she had the older-looking (but underage) students go to the liquor store and buy her her cigarettes. They never got carded!

[MongoTheGeek]

I never got carded until I was 22.

Now I get carded a lot. Its really bad when they card me and don't card my wife...

[rainman::|:|]

i pass for 18 depending on my outfit, so i definitely get carded a lot. Waitors almost always ask... bartenders often... tho bartenders didn't used to card me before i turned 21, which is bizarre. Gay clubs card damn near everyone, the cops watch them carefully... it's accepted that if you want in a gay club, and you don't have your ID, you're out of luck (well, there are certain ways to get in, but i'll leave that for another post).

As for cigarettes, i never used to get carded, but now they have this program that requires them to card anyone appearing under 27... they do sting operations at stores constantly, using kids from juvenile detention. I uh, support restrictions on youths buying cigarettes or whatever, but it's a bitch when you need smokes but left your ID at home. Thankfully I have a gas station that knows me now, which is nice.

paul

[Neserk]

As for cigarettes, i never used to get carded, but now they have this program that requires them to card anyone appearing under 27... they do sting operations at stores constantly, using kids from juvenile detention. I uh, support restrictions on youths buying cigarettes or whatever, but it's a bitch when you need smokes but left your ID at home. Thankfully I have a gas station that knows me now, which is nice.

paul


I'd rather you not smoked ;)

[blackfox]

Although I am 29, I still look very young, so I am carded everywhere...it is kind of flattering, actually. It is to the point that I am almost dissapointed on the rare occasions I am not asked to present ID...

Still, much has to do with liability and legal issues...I get carded at the my regular bar down the street, even though I have been going there over a year and I know all the staff...but to them, it is just not worth any hassle with the Liquor Control of said state, to let me (or anyone) by when the wrong eyes are watching...

[Neserk]

Usually if I'm with peers I don't get carded. If I'm with just my husband (grocery store) I do. I'm no longer sure how old I look.

I think I'm pretty much a chameleon when it comes to age.

When I'm in the classroom (as a student) people assume I am in my early twenties (how old you'd have to be in order to those particular classes). But when I subbed in middle school PE they couldn't find the teacher :rolleyes: so they saw me as being that young :eek: (heaven forbid!) When my partner announced I was 34 tonight in class (we interviewed each other and introduced are partners to the class) no gasped with surprise...

[iMeowbot]

38 and still get carded regularly, even when in the company of people who are in their early 20s who don't get asked. Maybe the gray doesn't show up as much in a dimly lit restaurant or something, but it's gone past flattering to almost embarrassing (as in, I hope it doesn't make younger friends wonder if they look older than they are).

[Badradio]

I think it depends on the place too; if you're in a college town, you're going to get carded more as the risk to the bar/club owners is higher that they're going to let someone in who is underage if they don't. Boston is mean for ID; I got turned away from a bar there when I was 26 as they wouldn't even accept my UK photo driving licence. Had to go back to my hotel and get my passport. They were cool about it though - I guess the laws are only there to protect people.

[Sun Baked]

Haha, i'm 19 and I go out to the campus bars near me. I can usually get a few drinks at the bar .. i guess I look old enough .... who knowsWait until you're 35 and they start asking you if you'd like the senior discount. :eek: :D

So getting carded because you seem younger is always a good thing, it's when you're young and they think you're old that it's bad. ;)

[TBR]

Like most people in the UK* I started going out to pubs and clubs at 16, everyone in my town starts going out at 16; some before, well it is Blackpool (http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=blackpool) :)

I started working in a bar at 16 and had my own 1 man bar at 17, started working on the bar on my 17th birthday.

Throughout all that time I've never been id'd**, never been asked for it although I used to carry my passport around when I went out. (just incase)

Back in my younger days of 16-18 you would be in a pub/club and know that over 90% of the people were underage. Most notorious at that time was a place called Main Street, where every tuesday would be double your money. (pay £10 to get in get £20 of drink vouchers etc)
The place would be full to capacity every tuesday and every college/sixth form student would be there and it got to the point where the college made wednesday a half day because no one was fit for anything on a Wednesday.....MMmmm Happy Days.


* I'm assuming this from my experience and tv.

**I was Id'd three weeks ago. I'm now 24.....not even funny, bearing in mind all that I have just said.

Oh and you might be thinking that I look old....I didn't at the time I was quite young looking...(not anymore :()

[acidrock]

Wait until you're 35 and they start asking you if you'd like the senior discount. :eek: :D

So getting carded because you seem younger is always a good thing, it's when you're young and they think you're old that it's bad. ;)

So when I am 35 will they say are you over 25 j/k heh

[AndiePandie]

I get carded all the time. For some reason people don't think I look any older than 20 when I'm actually 27. I don't mind it so much as I realize that people are just doing their job when asking. I never used a fake ID as I just didn't think it was worth the risk. I'm a goody two shoes like that. :p

[ExoticFish]

my girlfriend and i are both 22 and she gets carded all the time and i rarely get carded. it seems i get carded a lot less at the end of a long day when i have a good scruff going. i've gone to the store with my dad and when they card him he smiles and tells them how they've just made his day. :)

[Abstract]

I get carded now as often as I did when I was 18. The drinking age in Ontario (Canada) is 19, but I've been going to bars since I was 16. One bar in particular let us into the bar one time, and after that, they recognised me and let me and some friends into the bar every time, even at 16. I think I look older than I am (24), so that probably helps.

[rhpenguin]

I rarely get carded anymore unless im going to a bar. My beer store knows me well and no one ids for smokes either unless i show hesitation (as in i dont know what kind of cigarette to get).

Best way to not get carded is show confidence.

[jsw]

I remember a very young looking high school drama teacher who got tired of being challenged all the time. So she had the older-looking (but underage) students go to the liquor store and buy her her cigarettes. They never got carded!Well, the smoking undoubtedly caught up to her, and I'm sure she doesn't look "too young" now....

[virividox]

I rarely get carded anymore unless im going to a bar. My beer store knows me well and no one ids for smokes either unless i show hesitation (as in i dont know what kind of cigarette to get).

Best way to not get carded is show confidence.
yeah walk in like you own the place and you rarely get questioned

[Mord]

i have never got asked for ID and i'm 16 :D.

even though i have a nice fake ID i have yet to use it :rolleyes:.

[CubaTBird]

wow, talk about a lack of morals on these boards. and they say teenage drinking is a problem :rolleyes: well im 17 and have never touched alcohol in any way shape or form and don't intend do. i really don't believe im missin anything :o

[cheekyspanky]

I've been able to get served in Bars since 15, as someone said before its about looking confident and not hesitating too much! I think I've been asked for ID only 2 or 3 times and thats usually when they have to ID everyone or do an every 3rd person (etc) check.

The joys of living in the UK :D

[Mord]

wow, talk about a lack of morals on these boards. and they say teenage drinking is a problem :rolleyes: well im 17 and have never touched alcohol in any way shape or form and don't intend do. i really don't believe im missin anything :o

don't knock it until you have tried it

[rhpenguin]

don't knock it until you have tried it


I agree with your statement, and i do love an ice cold brew once and a while, but i cant drink to get drunk. It just doesnt work for me. Now getting stoned on the other hand is a totaly different story. Im totaly pro marijuana.

[Mord]

I agree with your statement, and i do love an ice cold brew once and a while, but i cant drink to get drunk. It just doesnt work for me. Now getting stoned on the other hand is a totaly different story. Im totaly pro marijuana.

i cant get drunk either. and i totaly agree with you on the marijuana front.

[Archaeopteryx]

Since I turned 21 ive been carded maybe twice...

Though I do have a few really really funny being carded stories..


I am 24... But I look older.. I have a full man beard.. and am usually very raggedy :-P About a month ago I went with my younger cousin to buy some cheapy pump paintball guns at walmart to waste an afternoon away... well.. When buying the cash register prompts "Check ID must be over 16" ... The lady.. some snot nosed girl about 18 looks at me "I need to see your ID"
"Are you serious"
"yes I cant sell it to you if you arent 16"
"But im old enough to be your older brother" (yes :-P)
"Dont make me have to call the maneger" (said rudley)

I forgot the Co2 cartriges.. the little disposable ones.. (told you they were cheapie guns)

I go back later that day.. pick them up.. and the cash register flashes "Must be 14 to purchase check id"

A DIFFRENT LADY... looks at me.. and says "I am going to have to see ID"
My words " YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING WITH ME"

lol.. I also got carded for a rater R movie when I was 22...

Yet Ive been carded for beer and liqour maybe once... also an intresting story.. I was denied the purchase because my ID was "expired" I told the snot nose "Look ****er, because some stupid arbitarely assigned date has passed doesnt change the damn day i was born nor the fact that thats my god damned picture on it! If it were a fake ID dont you think I would put a current ****ing date on it"

[iJon]

wow, talk about a lack of morals on these boards. and they say teenage drinking is a problem :rolleyes: well im 17 and have never touched alcohol in any way shape or form and don't intend do. i really don't believe im missin anything :o
Lack of morals, hahahaha. Whatever man. Whatever gives you an ego boost or makes you feel better than everyone else.

iJon

[acidrock]

DRINKING - POT
the guys and maybe gals that drink, I'm courious, are you into Pot also? I wonder if there is any corolation between people that do Pot and other substances, and drink?

DRINKING
I actually used to drink, but don't want to now. I'm concerend that before I could drink OK, but then stopped When I was overseas part of one summer. When I was of age I started to get hang overs after starting again. I wonder if I drink now I will become additcted to alcohal. I also know that since I did it before, I don't want to do it now.

POT:
and about Pot etc, and the thing about you should try it once. I have a lot of people that make that comment to me. Here's the thing, after living with people that do pot, you realize how messed up they actually are or will become. I had lived with them all year last year, and then a guy moved in Spring that asked me like 2000 times if I wanted pot. I gave him the same answer every time. The whole conversation between us in that three months, was, do you want pot. It was almost like right when I walked in the door right away, literally. Well after seeing how messed up that guy was, he ate like nothing, and obviously had memory issues, I'm like heck nah! -best!

[AndiePandie]

I don't think there is a correlation between drinking and smoking pot but that's just a guess really. You would have to determine the kind of drinking, such as binge (think frat party) or social (glass of wine with dinner) and go from there.

I drink only on weekends and it's minimal. A glass of wine or a bottle of beer with a meal and that's about it. I don't drink to get "buzzed" or "wasted" as that does not appeal to me in anyway. I have not nor do I want to smoke pot. :)

[cheekyspanky]

I think that drinking is a major part of the culture here in the UK, but drugs arent. Well not in my circle of friends anyway. I can't say I've ever been tempted to try drugs, seeing all the stoners in my halls of residence and their behaviour didnt really encourage me!

Being a student, drinking is a frequent activity - in fact the main social activity, but I don't think I could become addicted to it..I find the more I drink the less I like the taste! I think the lower age limit here, 18 compared to 21, means we have different attitudes on each side of the pond.

[Sun Baked]

So when I am 35 will they say are you over 25 j/k hehYou got those last two numbers reversed, you'll want them to think you're 25 -- but they'll think you're 52.

You may think a babyface is a problem, but it's better than the alternative.

[acidrock]

You got those last two numbers reversed, you'll want them to think you're 25 -- but they'll think you're 52.

You may think a babyface is a problem, but it's better than the alternative.

no actualy i found it quite flattering, the thing is I had the numbers right, unless your joking, but my post was a joke. Age ain't thing but a number, it's how mature you act and how you deal with thing that make it up

[rainman::|:|]

when the hell did we start talking about pot? you certainly don't get ID'd for pot. If you're buying dope and someone asks to see your license, you've just been arrested.

Good stuff tho.

CubaTBird, you will eventually grow up and will probably learn, like most adults, that alcohol can be a relaxing and enjoyable experience. Word to the wise, don't act too preachy right now, you'll look bad if ever caught with a glass of wine with dinner... which there's no reason to feel bad about having. Hell, in some industries, drinking with the boss is the only way to get ahead... i'm talking about executives here, not mill workers.

paul

[Sun Baked]

no actualy i found it quite flattering, the thing is I had the numbers right, unless your joking, but my post was a joke. Age ain't thing but a number, it's how mature you act and how you deal with thing that make it upIt's all these people that are proud of looking much older... :rolleyes:

[acidrock]

Originally Posted by rhpenguin
I agree with your statement, and i do love an ice cold brew once and a while, but i cant drink to get drunk. It just doesnt work for me. Now getting stoned on the other hand is a totaly different story. Im totaly pro marijuana.

i cant get drunk either. and i totaly agree with you on the marijuana front.

hey paul and others, to answer your questions about pot: this is maybe why we started taling about pot (above), because people brought up marijuana? I was also just wondering what the people were like that drank if they did pot too, when they were in college.

[Duff-Man]

Duff-Man says...well, I will go back to the original topic as I was away a couple days (or in the case of this thread - daze) and did not get a chance to respond earlier.

Last time I was asked for ID was in Seattle when buying a beer at the Safeway at 2am...it is obvious that I am past my "best before" date but the lady said they check everyone regardless...seemed a bit silly to me but I guess grocery store clerks are not paid enough to exercise judgement...oh yeah!

[Sun Baked]

Duff-Man says...well, I will go back to the original topic as I was away a couple days (or in the case of this thread - daze) and did not get a chance to respond earlier.

Last time I was asked for ID was in Seattle when buying a beer at the Safeway at 2am...it is obvious that I am past my "best before" date but the lady said they check everyone regardless...seemed a bit silly to me but I guess grocery store clerks are not paid enough to exercise judgement...oh yeah!She just wanted your name and address. ;)

The sting operations have basically made it cheaper for chain stores to go through the trouble and check everyone that looks like they aren't senior discount material.

[jefhatfield]

hey paul and others, to answer your questions about pot: this is maybe why we started taling about pot (above), because people brought up marijuana? I was also just wondering what the people were like that drank if they did pot too, when they were in college.

i never did both together at any time in my life...before age 21, i did pot in college and it really messed up my grades...for the most part my major in my school was very undemanding and it would take anybody a minimum of effort to have a 2.0 gpa...i managed to be stoned a lot and miss classes and end up with 2.5 years with an overall gpa around 1.9...i can atttribute a lot of things to my poor performance in school but i would say that being stoned did not help my ambition or my memory...i had to finish college later when i didn't do any pot and i found my brain worked better

that being said, i don't think everybody has problems with school if they smoke pot...when i was in grad school, which was very demanding, i hung out with fellow students socially and they smoked pot and partied rather hard...but there was a different ethic there...study hard and party hard, with the understanding that there is a balance in life and one has to pay bills, do homework, and get enough sleep before a workday...but as a freshman and sophomore in college for me and many of my friends it was party hard and party hard ;)

today, twenty years later, i don't smoke pot and have no desire to...i drink, but mostly beer but it does have a tendency to put on weight...wine or anything else has a much higher alcohol content but is not as fattening

in the end, each person is an individual and has different reactions to drugs and substances...i know pot will make me lazy so i abstain but i don't think it is as dangerous as alcohol can be to many people...i know that beer is fattening so i drink less...and with any medications, i read the bottle for side effects so i don't mix it with alcohol if there is a negative prolonged effect

drugs like ecstasy are best used in psychiactric applications and cocaine and opiates for medical uses...though i don't believe in criminalizing any drug, common sense dictates that the hard drugs are not a good form of recreation...some can also make the argument that alcohol is as bad as heroin, but for some people alcohol is that bad

he he...i hope i didn't cross the line into the political forums

[jefhatfield]

besides the obvious drinkers and pot smokers in college, many students didn't do any drugs but still managed to party hard and avoid homework

my roomate in 1st and 3rd years of college did not drink or do any drugs but he managed to make tv, movies, and food his drug of choice and his grades suffered for it...he did manage to get through college, but with minimal grades and he often was proud of getting a C or even D if it meant that he didn't have to take the class again...in four years of college i don't know if he ever saw the inside of the library

other friends i had didn't do drugs but found other creative ways to avoid doing homework and procrastinating as much as they could

in every case, leisure time was the reason for college for most of the people i met in the dorms the first year, not learning or retaining any information after a test was passed...but then i would meet older adult students who went to college who didn't need the degree for any reason, but were in school for the joy of learning and those students were usually straight A students

[rueyeet]

wow, talk about a lack of morals on these boards.Yay decadence!! :p :D

More seriously: addiction has nothing whatsoever to do with morality--but then, not all drinking (or even all pot smoking) leads to addiction, either.

I've never gotten carded, even before turning 21, unless the establishment has a "card everyone that looks like they're under 40" policies. In fact when I was taken out for my 21st birthday, I complained about not getting the ceremonial "yup, you're legal" carding, so the waitress obliged me.

I like the taste of alcohol, and will drink pretty much anything I find yummy (which translates to: anything with rum or vodka) but don't overdo it. But I never smoke pot--even if I was tempted by the effects, which seem from observation to be a matter of sitting around smiling in a goofy manner, I'm asthmatic. Smoking of ANY substance would simply be dumb, in that special way that only circumvention of one's self-preservation instinct is.

[takao]

twice
first time with 16 (at a club where i have been in the day before...pretty obviously their business was running to good)
second time with 17 (same here..was there the week before)

with buying beer etc. never had a problem getting alcohol (didn't drink before i was 15-16)..perhaps i was lucky
but they got more strict in the last 4-5 years... but now i'm 21 and at that age getting an "acces denied" at the doors is limited to wearing wrong shoes and clothes ;)