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Sun Baked
Mar 30, 2010, 03:00 PM
A man who says he suffers from "electromagnetic sensitivities" has sued a neighbor and now former friend in New Mexico state court, seeking $530,000 in damages and a court order requiring her to turn off her wireless electronic devices.

The plaintiff homeowner, Arthur Firstenberg, 59, says he asked defendant Raphaela Monribot, who rents a home near his, to limit her use of the laptop computer, wireless router, iPhone and dimmer switches that are causing him symptoms including nausea, vertigo and heart arrhythmia, reports the Chicago Tribune.

More... (http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/man_sues_neighbor_over_bad_vibes_says_she_must_turn_off_wireless_electronic/)

Those crazy people from New Mexico with iPhone allergies, what'll they think of next. ;)

flopticalcube
Mar 30, 2010, 03:04 PM
Sensitivity to electromagnetic fields is a known phenomenon. I would think the onus, however, is on him to move not his neighbor.

eawmp1
Mar 30, 2010, 03:04 PM
"Electromagnetic sensitivities" - bummer he was born on Earth with its electromagnetic field. Too bad he hasn't discovered the shielding qualities of the tinfoil pyramidal hat. :rolleyes:

Rodimus Prime
Mar 30, 2010, 03:04 PM
While it is true people do suffer with that disability I do not think people should have to bend over backwards because of it. Now the guy sueing should have his house electronomaticly shielded. that is mostly involves lining all the walls and roof with an wire like mesh and it makes the house a Faraday cage. It would block all wireless signals coming in from the out side.

The rights of the majority are being interfered on by the minority.

eawmp1
Mar 30, 2010, 03:06 PM
Sensitivity to electromagnetic fields is a known phenomenon. I would think the onus, however, is on him to move not his neighbor.

I doubt she is casting a strong enough electromagnetic field from her various household devices to affect him.

Rodimus Prime
Mar 30, 2010, 03:07 PM
"Electromagnetic sensitivities" - bummer he was born on Earth with its electromagnetic field. Too bad he hasn't discovered the shielding qualities of the tinfoil pyramidal hat. :rolleyes:

Just going to point out it is a known thing and people do suffer from it. Like I pointed out above it is not that hard to shield ones residents from electromagnetic interference. Hell the wire mesh lining can be inside the walls so one can not see it and it would still do its job and the people who suffer from it the worse things like cell phones will make them sick.

Wireless routers will do it as well. He just needs to shield his house and he would be fine.

flopticalcube
Mar 30, 2010, 03:09 PM
I doubt she is casting a strong enough electromagnetic field from her various household devices to affect him.
Depends how far away she is and how sensitive he is. 10 or 20ft is what I remember as being the range for most. It causes headaches, nausea and panic attacks in some people. Not her problem, however.

Sun Baked
Mar 30, 2010, 03:14 PM
I doubt she is casting a strong enough electromagnetic field from her various household devices to affect him.

He purchased his half of the split duplex (close together), really old home and wiring ... with both homes tied together and his electric meter on her house.

Would think that he'd rewire his house, relocate his meter, and put in a new service panel/ground, plus install foil backed insulation or something on the walls between.

Likely all this would come to a lot less than the initial legal bill.

Counterfit
Mar 30, 2010, 07:38 PM
Wasn't there a thread about this already?

Flynnstone
Mar 31, 2010, 08:10 AM
Now the guy sueing should have his house electronomaticly shielded. that is mostly involves lining all the walls and roof with an wire like mesh and it makes the house a Faraday cage. It would block all wireless signals coming in from the out side.


That would only make you think that you are blocking all the radiation.

MacBoobsPro
Mar 31, 2010, 08:23 AM
Dimmer switches do my head in as I can hear the high pitched buzzing al lthe time. The lower the dimmer the louder the noise. I can also hear my Macs CPUs when they are on. Very subtle high pitched noises that change when they are working (no its not the hard drive).

We also had a TV that I could hear from my driveway when it was on standby. :eek: I could tell if someone had left the TV on before I got it the car. :D

I have to wear earplugs to sleep at night! :o

Adam0306
Mar 31, 2010, 08:43 AM
Those crazy people from New Mexico with iPhone allergies, what'll they think of next. ;)

I would say that either he is or has worked for Microsoft before.

joro
Mar 31, 2010, 09:22 AM
Sensitivity to electromagnetic fields is a known phenomenon. I would think the onus, however, is on him to move not his neighbor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity

According to that although itís claimed to exist, the medical and scientific communities donít actually recognize it as a medical or otherwise existent condition. In any case, I agree with you that the responsibility falls on the person who has this affliction, not everyone around him. Thatís like telling a private resident he has to build a wheelchair ramp on his property because his neighbor is handicapped. :rolleyes:

ucfgrad93
Mar 31, 2010, 09:24 AM
Sounds like the plaintiff should move out to someplace where his nearest neighbor is a mile away.

SpookTheHamster
Mar 31, 2010, 11:07 AM
Sensitivity to electromagnetic fields is a known phenomenon. I would think the onus, however, is on him to move not his neighbor.

It's a known load of crap. The entire world is flooded with EM fields, both natural and otherwise. Every piece of electrical hardware would set the guy off. He says he's been sleeping in his car. If his car is modern, he'll be unlocking it with radio waves.

iBlue
Mar 31, 2010, 11:17 AM
He had better not win that case because it's completely ridiculous.

Thatís like telling a private resident he has to build a wheelchair ramp on his property because his neighbor is handicapped.

Exactly!

Sun Baked
Mar 31, 2010, 05:52 PM
Shows what 20+ years of activism in a fringe area will net you.

Image what some of the really active PRSI users will morph into in that time, and what they will be suing the Circle K clerk over. :p

You know you are a nut sack when you get your own activist wiki entry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Firstenberg

citizenzen
Apr 1, 2010, 12:06 PM
Poor guy. Light probably really freaks him out.

Maybe he could sue the Sun.

wywern209
Apr 11, 2010, 03:03 PM
Dimmer switches do my head in as I can hear the high pitched buzzing al lthe time. The lower the dimmer the louder the noise. I can also hear my Macs CPUs when they are on. Very subtle high pitched noises that change when they are working (no its not the hard drive).

We also had a TV that I could hear from my driveway when it was on standby. :eek: I could tell if someone had left the TV on before I got it the car. :D

I have to wear earplugs to sleep at night! :o

u would have to be inhuman.... r u?

Renese-Williams
Apr 11, 2010, 03:58 PM
Just for this I would set up a bunch of electronics outside his house. :D

millar876
Apr 12, 2010, 10:47 AM
Do these people not realise that when alternating current passes through a conductor (I.e. All the wiring in and under a house) it creates an electromagnetic field, let alone all the omnidirectional broadcast radio and tv signals that have been arround for ages. Why is this sensativity thingey a new thing? I just do t buy it!

MacBoobsPro
Apr 12, 2010, 10:54 AM
u would have to be inhuman.... r u?

I dont think so. :D

If you have a dimmer switch put your ear right up close to it and play with the dimmer. ;)

elpmas
Apr 12, 2010, 03:58 PM
wth. some people need to stop suing for stu**d reasons...seriously...they don't even live in the same house!!!! -__-

Vidder
Apr 12, 2010, 05:26 PM
I dont think so. :D

If you have a dimmer switch put your ear right up close to it and play with the dimmer. ;)

Dude, go back to the other thread and tell us the story with that chick...wtf? you left us all hanging!

max••
Apr 12, 2010, 06:22 PM
i see where this guy is coming from, but if someone told me to turn our 2 wifi networks of, witch we need for our 8+ laptops and devices (one network is mine and can have 10gb of data going through it at one time, the other is family) i would be quite pi***d off

SnailMailFTW
Apr 12, 2010, 07:16 PM
We also had a TV that I could hear from my driveway when it was on standby. :eek: I could tell if someone had left the TV on before I got it the car. :D
That's funny. I can actually hear when the TV is on from a few rooms away, too, even if the volume is all the way down.

iBlue
Apr 13, 2010, 01:07 AM
wth. some people need to stop suing for stu**d reasons...seriously...they don't even live in the same house!!!! -__-

Speaking of WTH, did you just self-censor the word "stupid"?

itickings
Apr 13, 2010, 05:07 AM
u would have to be inhuman.... r u?

Well, then there are quite a few inhumans on Earth. Some people are just much more sensitive to high-pitched noise than others. Dimmers and CRT:s make noise.

Do these people not realise that when alternating current passes through a conductor (I.e. All the wiring in and under a house) it creates an electromagnetic field, let alone all the omnidirectional broadcast radio and tv signals that have been arround for ages. Why is this sensativity thingey a new thing? I just do t buy it!

To be fair, this "sensativity thingey" isn't entirely new. For quite some time now (decades) there's been people claiming to be allergic to electricity. That would line up pretty well with your "all the wiring in and under a house"-example.

Now of course mostly these cases have been considered to imagine everything as far as I know, but the phenomena isn't brand new.

AdamA9
Apr 13, 2010, 05:13 AM
What is it with you guys over there and suing each other over anything petty?

Renese-Williams
Apr 13, 2010, 12:51 PM
What is it with you guys over there and suing each other over anything petty?

At least it's not another McDonalds because someone spilled hot coffee on themselves.

jknight8907
Apr 15, 2010, 03:04 PM
What is it with you guys over there and suing each other over anything petty?

Most people have a complete lack of personal responsibility. They want 'mommy' to protect them.

tkingart
Apr 16, 2010, 12:35 AM
Electrical wiring generates EMF especially in older wires with the minimum legal insulation. Does he have no electricity? The entire planet has an EMF, and doesn't it shield us from solar flares and radiation, as well as gamma rays?

I wonder, is there any medication, treatment or regiment, that can help desensitize him a bit? or is he taking medication for other ailments, that exacerbates it? Does the neighbor with WiFi have a 5ghz Draft N router they could operate (without loss) at 2.4ghz? perhaps moving it to the furthest wall away from the neighbor?

I wonder what their walls between the units look like...he probably beats it like a red-headed stepchild. ;)