FCC iPad Images Reveal Broadcom Chip, Apple A4, Toshiba Flash Memory

[MacRumors]

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http://images.macrumors.com/article/2010/04/02/161424-fcc.jpg

A closer look at the FCC images (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/02/ipad-internal-photos-posted-to-federal-communications-commission-site/) reveal that the obscured chip parts were actually blacked out with a layer embedded in the PDF. A quick manipulation reveals the actual underlying chips.

Unsurprisingly, the main processor is an Apple A4, but the new images reveal that Apple is using Toshiba Flash memory and a Broadcom BCM5973 chip. iFixit is doing a full analysis (http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPad-FCC-Teardown/2197/1) of the newly revealed images.

Article Link: FCC iPad Images Reveal Broadcom Chip, Apple A4, Toshiba Flash Memory (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/02/fcc-ipad-images-reveal-broadcom-chip-apple-a4-toshiba-flash-memory/)

[whyrichard]

good undercover work

[RMo]

Have we learned nothing about using layers to "black out" things in PDFs?

http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/06/22/138210.shtml ... and I know there's been a ton of others.

[rumplestiltskin]

God bless you, iFixit! You saved my nappy arse more than once! :p

[tatonka]

What a bunch of monkey's at the FCC .. you would think they know what they do .. well apparently not.

[Ljohnson72]

Whoever made this PDF is gonna see some heat...

[ravenvii]

Whoever made this PDF is gonna see some heat...

Eh, it's coming out tomorrow and everyone will have an opportunity to crack one open and photograph and analyze every inch of it. This just allows everyone to see a day earlier.

[Ljohnson72]

Eh, it's coming out tomorrow and everyone will have an opportunity to crack one open and photograph and analyze every inch of it. This just allows everyone to see a day earlier.

True, but this we're talking about Apple here.

[Friscohoya]

This is apple pornography...

[Neotyguy40]

Toshiba NAND memory?

What a coincidence! Look what I just read:

http://dvice.com/archives/2010/04/toshibas-ultra-.php

256GB iPad by 2012? Seems likely!

[andiwm2003]

Whoever made this PDF is gonna see some heat...

Eh, it's coming out tomorrow and everyone will have an opportunity to crack one open and photograph and analyze every inch of it. This just allows everyone to see a day earlier.

doesn't matter if the ipad comes out tomorrow. whoever screwed up should be fired because they breached confidentiality. either because they are reckless or stupid. maybe this time it doesn't matter but there will be other times where it damages somebodies business.

[Nuvi]

I really wonder if its really worth it for Apple to develop their own chip. I mean its not like the wow factor is within the chip.

[Peace]

I really wonder if its really worth it for Apple to develop their own chip. I mean its not like the wow factor is within the chip.

It is if you plan on using the chips in future iPhones and iPod Touchs.
And maybe even other types on tablets.

[Vmaatta]

Have we learned nothing about using layers to "black out" things in PDFs?

http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/06/22/138210.shtml ... and I know there's been a ton of others.

What a bunch of monkey's at the FCC .. you would think they know what they do .. well apparently not.

Whoever made this PDF is gonna see some heat...
Some heads are gonna roll…
This is apple pornography...
Geeky **** :D.

[chrisandersen]

The speakers look bigger than I thought they would be.

[cmaier]

Broadcom chip is the same chip used in the iPhone for the i/o controller for the touch screen.

[Nuvi]

It is if you plan on using the chips in future iPhones and iPod Touchs.
And maybe even other types on tablets.

Sure but can Apple keep it cost efficient and competitive speed wise. I don't like to see another PowerPC era of lagging behind the rest.

[millertime021]

FCC Fail.

[topmounter]

Somehow or another Apple will figure out how to make removing a layer from a PDF a violation of the DMCA :rolleyes:

[enberg]

Somehow or another Apple will figure out how to make removing a layer from a PDF a violation of the DMCA :rolleyes:
What would be the point? The interweb will be rife with disassembly videos and images on saturday anyway.

[cvaldes]

It is if you plan on using the chips in future iPhones and iPod Touchs.
And maybe even other types on tablets.
Other potential products that could benefit from the homegrown silicon could be AirPorts, Time Capsules, maybe even AppleTV.

[Rot'nApple]

Apple is using Toshiba Flash memory

Isn't Flash on an :apple: iPad sacrilegious?! :eek: :rolleyes: :D

[CJS7070]

I'm wondering who it was that was taking the time to go through and find this fail in the PDF to begin with :p

[cvaldes]

Sure but can Apple keep it cost efficient and competitive speed wise. I don't like to see another PowerPC era of lagging behind the rest.
This is a bit different since there are multiple vendors of ARM chips. Apple was using them until the iPad.

If for whatever reason, Apple decided to abandon in-house ARM design, they would simply return to off-the-shelf components or have someone else design custom silicon for them. It's not like this a life-or-death gamble.

Clearly, Apple thinks that they can gain some sort of competitive advantage by designing their own silicon.

It will be interesting to see if they use the A4 (or A4 variant) in the next-generation iPhone and how that affects power consumption. Apart from AT&T's network performance, battery life is the biggest complaint amongst iPhone users.

[jclardy]

I really wonder if its really worth it for Apple to develop their own chip. I mean its not like the wow factor is within the chip.

I kind of doubt that Apple could have squeezed 10 hours of battery from a stock chip at the same performance level. Developing their own chip lets them create specific cycle saving instructions.

[Catfish_Man]

I kind of doubt that Apple could have squeezed 10 hours of battery from a stock chip at the same performance level. Developing their own chip lets them create specific cycle saving instructions.

Hm... not really. A custom instruction set would require recompiling all iPhone apps, and prevent moving back to commodity chips in the future if they want to. However, P.A.Semi does have a lot of very expert designers, so it's quite possible Apple really can build a better chip.

They can also integrate exactly the non-processing functionality (IO, memory controllers, etc...) that they need.

[koach]

Do we know how much ram is in the ipad yet? I was hoping this would tell us.

[cmaier]

I kind of doubt that Apple could have squeezed 10 hours of battery from a stock chip at the same performance level. Developing their own chip lets them create specific cycle saving instructions.

I believe the reason for the 10 hour battery life is that the battery is huge. Much more power is consumed by the screen and radios than by the CPU in these things, so even halving cpu power consumption would have little overall effect on battery life.

[LukeHarrison]

Is it just me who's a little disappointed that the A4 doesn't look like it does in the promo vid? I wanted it to just have the Apple logo and 'A4' written on it. :p

[mithlond]

that it was the day before. It still represents both a breach of confidentiality and an instance of committing the 'security through obscurity' fallacy.

I'm sure whether we hear about it or not that Apple will have words with the FCC.

[santaliqueur]

I really wonder if its really worth it for Apple to develop their own chip. I mean its not like the wow factor is within the chip.

Uh oh, too bad they didn't real your post before investing tens or hundreds of millions of dollars into this project. Too late to turn back now! Post earlier next time.

[ouimetnick]

The markings on the new A4 chip look don't looks as sexy as the chip markings that was shown on te keynote

[daxomni]

Can Apple sue the FCC if they don't fire/kill the employee who allowed this leak?

[iVoid]

The speakers look bigger than I thought they would be.


Yeah, but having stereo speakers and then putting them RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER is stupid.

[cmaier]

Yeah, but having stereo speakers and then putting them RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER is stupid.

Aside from the fact that you won't get meaningful separation anyway, the left and right channel have no meaning in a device that is designed to operate in any orientation.

[mrklaw]

Aside from the fact that you won't get meaningful separation anyway, the left and right channel have no meaning in a device that is designed to operate in any orientation.

you could put them at the top and bottom for maximum separation. And when watching movies they'd be left/right. For music yes you could listen in any orientation but then you could also easily put it in landscape.

[baryon]

I don't know how this compares to the iPhone and other devices, but I'm glad to see some Japanese electronics in there.

[cmaier]

you could put them at the top and bottom for maximum separation. And when watching movies they'd be left/right. For music yes you could listen in any orientation but then you could also easily put it in landscape.

True, if there was room to do so they could have done that (not sure whether they had room or not). Still wouldn't be very good stereo being that close together. I'm not even sure that they are hooked up in stereo as opposed to being push-pull for greater bass, or push-push for louder volume.

[ouimetnick]

the lcd looks welded to the digitizer. The things look kinda like screws, but it seems like melted plastic. I hope screen replacements are simple like iPhone.

[cmaier]

I don't know how this compares to the iPhone and other devices, but I'm glad to see some Japanese electronics in there.

that's funny

[Revelation78]

the lcd looks welded to the digitizer. The things look kinda like screws, but it seems like melted plastic. I hope screen replacements are simple like iPhone.


Doubtful. Rumor has it that Apple will "seal" the digitizer to the screen to prevent dust under the screen - even on the next iPhone. It'll be more cost effective for Apple this way.

[ImperialX]

Do we know how much ram is in the ipad yet? I was hoping this would tell us.

This is the only question I have for the iPad hardware. Everything looks good, and this is the only thing we still don't know.

Hearing every review say it's "blazing fast" without any numbers just isn't very convincing...:rolleyes:

[DaveGee]

Can Apple sue the FCC if they don't fire/kill the employee who allowed this leak?

Why does everyone think this is the FCCs fault?

Do you really think the FCC would presume to know what is or isn't 'TOP SECRET' according to Apple? Also, do you really think they would have someone on THEIR staff take the time to blackout each individual chip?

I'm pretty sure if Apple wanted the FCC to display a 'blacked out' version of a photo then APPLE would have to supply it on their own.

If I'm totally off base then so be it but I kinda doubt the FCC would needlessly take on the responsibility, ESPECIALLY since most hardware designers don't request this level of secrecy. Finally, while the FCC does try and respect certain wishes from submitters (like to not publish before a certain date) I think I read (somewhere) that they aren't formally obligated to do so.

[cmaier]

This is the only question I have for the iPad hardware. Everything looks good, and this is the only thing we still don't know.

Hearing every review say it's "blazing fast" without any numbers just isn't very convincing...:rolleyes:

what numbers would convince you? If everything is instantaneous, of what use is an arbitrary benchmark number?

[ImperialX]

what numbers would convince you? If everything is instantaneous, of what use is an arbitrary benchmark number?

From what I know, the iPhone 3GS is "blazing fast" as well. It will be quite disappointing if the iPad also had 256MB of RAM, wouldn't you say?

Of course, we both preordered the iPad already, so we can't really do much even if it turns out to be the same...but it's still nice to know, right?

[cmaier]

From what I know, the iPhone 3GS is "blazing fast" as well. It will be quite disappointing if the iPad also had 256MB of RAM, wouldn't you say?

Of course, we both preordered the iPad already, so we can't really do much even if it turns out to be the same...but it's still nice to know, right?

No. I wouldn't say. It would only disappoint me if the thing isn't at least as fast running iPad apps as my 3GS is running iPhone apps. The amount of RAM tells me nothing about how fast it will be in my hands.

[Toups]

Do we know how much ram is in the ipad yet? I was hoping this would tell us.

If you look in the App Store for "Pad Info" which can be viewed at http://appshopper.com/utilities/pad-info you will see the device apparently contains 4GB of RAM.

:D

[pubwvj]

I really wonder if its really worth it for Apple to develop their own chip. I mean its not like the wow factor is within the chip.

The processor can be an enormous cost of production. Vertical integration, having their own chip, not only gives Apple security and control but cuts their costs if they can use it widely enough. I love vertical integration in business and is how I've done things for decades. It makes sense.

[pubwvj]

"A closer look at the FCC images reveal that the obscured chip parts were actually blacked out with a layer embedded in the PDF. A quick manipulation reveals the actual underlying chips."

If Apple goofed I would guess it was on purpose to spur marketing.

If the FCC goofed it's just typical government clumsiness.

[cmaier]

If you look in the App Store for "Pad Info" which can be viewed at http://appshopper.com/utilities/pad-info you will see the device apparently contains 4GB of RAM.

:D

Uh, no. That was probably run on the simulator. I'm sure the author of that app didn't have an actual device.

[ImperialX]

No. I wouldn't say. It would only disappoint me if the thing isn't at least as fast running iPad apps as my 3GS is running iPhone apps. The amount of RAM tells me nothing about how fast it will be in my hands.

I still think that having a number will be more indictive of performance than a mere statement, and I think it's safe to say that 256MB isn't enough to give the iPad a 3GS-like performance given its much higher resolution.

If you look in the App Store for "Pad Info" which can be viewed at http://appshopper.com/utilities/pad-info you will see the device apparently contains 4GB of RAM.

Thanks. This app will at least tell me how much RAM the iPad has when I get it.

P.S. the 4GB is actually the RAM his Mac has, not the iPad.

[gnasher729]

Whoever made this PDF is gonna see some heat...

It's one day before the release, and I don't think a company like Apple wants to have enemies at the FCC :rolleyes: I guess Apple will politely point out to them that this shouldn't have happened.

[doctoree]

Have we learned nothing about using layers to "black out" things in PDFs?

http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/06/22/138210.shtml ... and I know there's been a ton of others.

They seem to be real experts. First photograph it with a exttemly distorting lens and then using these layers....

[Toups]

I still think that having a number will be more indictive of performance than a mere statement, and I think it's safe to say that 256MB isn't enough to give the iPad a 3GS-like performance given its much higher resolution.



Thanks. This app will at least tell me how much RAM the iPad has when I get it.

P.S. the 4GB is actually the RAM his Mac has, not the iPad.

You may be right and I thought about that as well, but typically the simulators lock the simulation to the available memory on the actual device platforms to avoid developers making a iPhone with 2GB of RAM, running a demo, then it stall on a device with only 256MB.

Not sure if anyone has taken a look at some of the apps, i.e. X-Plane at 156MB install, Dungeon Hunter HD at 211MB, Asphalt 5 HD at 232MB... these are not small games and load the entire application into RAM at start-up in most cases for smoother game play and access. These games are highly memory intensive (not to mention GPU tasking) especially since it has 4 times the resolution of the smaller iPhone/iPod Touch devices. (not accounting for alleged multi-tasking of 3rd party applications)

[gnasher729]

Somehow or another Apple will figure out how to make removing a layer from a PDF a violation of the DMCA :rolleyes:

Did that layer prevent copying of the PDF? If it didn't prevent copying then removing it can't be a DMCA violation. Was it an effective copy protection measure? As far as I know many people use tools that could remove a layer in a PDF file for completely legitimate reasons and people using these tools (printers, editors) could do this without problems. If it is not an effective copy protection method then it can't be a DMCA violation.

Anyway, Apple is not the copyright holder of these pictures. The FCC is. So again, no chance for DMCA violation that _Apple_ could sue for.

[cmaier]

You may be right and I thought about that as well, but typically the simulators lock the simulation to the available memory on the actual device platforms to avoid developers making a iPhone with 2GB of RAM, running a demo, then it stall on a device with only 256MB.


Trust us.

[cmaier]

Did that layer prevent copying of the PDF? If it didn't prevent copying then removing it can't be a DMCA violation. Was it an effective copy protection measure? As far as I know many people use tools that could remove a layer in a PDF file for completely legitimate reasons and people using these tools (printers, editors) could do this without problems. If it is not an effective copy protection method then it can't be a DMCA violation.

Anyway, Apple is not the copyright holder of these pictures. The FCC is. So again, no chance for DMCA violation that _Apple_ could sue for.

Based on what theory?

[BadCatOS]

The Apple A4 chip looks lame. The marketing images were better, but thats understandable. I want to know the Ram like everyone else. Let's see some exact specs Apple.

[cmaier]

The Apple A4 chip looks lame. The marketing images were better, but thats understandable. I want to know the Ram like everyone else. Let's see some exact specs Apple.

Do you need to know the exact diameter of the hose clamp in your car, too?

[LbrTradr]

I wonder if these FCC pictures are what Steve Jobs was talking about when he was spotted with Eric Schmidt a week ago and was heard saying:

"They're going to see it all eventually so who cares how they get it."

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/26/steve-jobs-and-eric-schmidt-seen-chatting-at-palo-alto-restaurant/

[bozeefus]

imagine if the macbook pro upgrade is delayed due to implementation of A4 chips. LOL!!!!! worst idea ever?

[cmaier]

imagine if the macbook pro upgrade is delayed due to implementation of A4 chips. LOL!!!!! worst idea ever?

what on earth does one have to do with the other?

[ImperialX]

Do you need to know the exact diameter of the hose clamp in your car, too?

No, we don't, but if we are to treat the iPad as a computer (which we are), then knowing the size of the RAM should be common knowledge.

imagine if the macbook pro upgrade is delayed due to implementation of A4 chips. LOL!!!!! worst idea ever?

The new MacBook Pros will be using Intel chips. It has nothing to do with the A4.

[cmaier]

No, we don't, but if we are to treat the iPad as a computer (which we are), then knowing the size of the RAM should be common knowledge.


The whole point of the iPad is that you shouldn't have to treat it as a computer (meaning you shouldn't require any knowledge of its innards, you shouldn't need any special training to operate it, etc.)

[ImperialX]

The whole point of the iPad is that you shouldn't have to treat it as a computer (meaning you shouldn't require any knowledge of its innards, you shouldn't need any special training to operate it, etc.)

I find this strange coming from a developer. I'm not saying everyone has to know how big the RAM is, but certain people do.

[ouimetnick]

The whole point of the iPad is that you shouldn't have to treat it as a computer (meaning you shouldn't require any knowledge of its innards, you shouldn't need any special training to operate it, etc.)

You do treat it like a computer. Steve said its a netbook successor, and it kicks the netbooks ass, so iPad is then a computer.

[marksman]

I really wonder if its really worth it for Apple to develop their own chip. I mean its not like the wow factor is within the chip.

The benefit for them is to be able to design the hardware and software to work together in a direct and integral fashion.

Competitors will not be able to do this using off-the-shelf parts. So Apple will likely be able to get more performance and battery life out of their own chip design, as opposed to using one for general consumption.

Speed and Battery Life are both things that help with the "wow factor" as you put it.

[ouimetnick]

The benefit for them is to be able to design the hardware and software to work together in a direct and integral fashion.

Competitors will not be able to do this using off-the-shelf parts. So Apple will likely be able to get more performance and battery life out of their own chip design, as opposed to using one for general consumption.

Speed and Battery Life are both things that help with the "wow factor" as you put it.

Look at iPhone and iPods, and Macs. They all use off the shelf parts and contain the wow factor. Also is the Apple A4 really that power efficient? Those batteries are huge.

[dacapo]

Why does everyone think this is the FCCs fault?

Do you really think the FCC would presume to know what is or isn't 'TOP SECRET' according to Apple? Also, do you really think they would have someone on THEIR staff take the time to blackout each individual chip?

I'm pretty sure if Apple wanted the FCC to display a 'blacked out' version of a photo then APPLE would have to supply it on their own.

If I'm totally off base then so be it but I kinda doubt the FCC would needlessly take on the responsibility, ESPECIALLY since most hardware designers don't request this level of secrecy. Finally, while the FCC does try and respect certain wishes from submitters (like to not publish before a certain date) I think I read (somewhere) that they aren't formally obligated to do so.

agreed. it's not like the FCC is a reseller/partner/customer or any of those other entities in which an NDA or contract would have any enforceability. it's apple's fault most likely anyways and the FCC as a regulatory agency has nothing to gain or lose from this anyways.

as someone i know once said: if a person forcibly takes your money, it's called robbery. if the government forcibly takes your money, well, that's called taxation.

[kas23]

Where's the magic generator? Or, is it invisible because it's magic too?

[Cloudane]

ifixit's analysis of the images proves, for those of us who wanted to be certain, that the 3G model has a full GPS. Excellent.

[Avicenna]

Can someone tell me whats this FCC and PDF? lol, totally confused.

[DanielSw]

I really wonder if its really worth it for Apple to develop their own chip. I mean its not like the wow factor is within the chip.

I really wonder if you've ever read any of the articles about the A4. You must not have. Otherwise you'd know why they did it. Not some arbitrary decision.

[Kevin Winsness]

How do you remove a PDF masking job is what I would like to know!

[cmaier]

You do treat it like a computer. Steve said its a netbook successor, and it kicks the netbooks ass, so iPad is then a computer.

No, he didn't say that. He said netbooks are not good at anything. That's completely different than saying iPad is to be treated like a computer. His point, in fact, is that iPad is to be treated like an appliance that just get the job done.

[cmaier]

I find this strange coming from a developer. I'm not saying everyone has to know how big the RAM is, but certain people do.

It's my job to make sure that my app works regardless of how much RAM it has available. I bet you want multitasking, right? If so, when Apple implements multitasking, you won't even get all the memory to yourself. All I need to know as a developer is how much virtual address space I have, and then I have to test it under various conditions to make sure performance is ok.

[ClassicII]

How do you remove a PDF masking job is what I would like to know!

Good question.

[cmaier]

Good question.

Acrobat Pro and various other tools allow you to toggle stuff on and off.

[jimmyjoemccrow]

Can someone tell me whats this FCC and PDF? lol, totally confused.

The PDF are a government body that regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. FCC is a file format to store documents with images and text in a compressed format.

[Squid7085]

A closer look at the FCC images (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/02/ipad-internal-photos-posted-to-federal-communications-commission-site/) reveal that the obscured chip parts were actually blacked out with a layer embedded in the PDF. A quick manipulation reveals the actual underlying chips.


Lol at the FCC.

[cmaier]

Lol at the FCC.

Apple, not the FCC, blacked it out.

[Rocketman]

I call fake!

The Apple logo on the chip is not rainbow colored.

:D

Rocketman

[ouimetnick]

The PDF are a government body that regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. FCC is a file format to store documents with images and text in a compressed format.

Other way around.

The FCC are a government body that regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. PDF is a file format to store documents with images and text in a compressed format.

FCC is Federal Communications Commission
PDF is Portable Document Format.

[cmaier]

Other way around.

The FCC are a government body that regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. PDF is a file format to store documents with images and text in a compressed format.

FCC is Federal Communications Commission
PDF is Portable Document Format.

He was joking

[iVoid]

Apple, not the FCC, blacked it out.

After this, Apple is REALLY going to dislike Adobe. :)


"Adobe can't even make software that blacks out stuff right, so use Pages instead!" - Steve Jobs

[BJEast75]

Other way around.

Get a sense of humour!! Jees, it's sad when you HAVE to point it out to some people.

B

[jamesryanbell]

I just keep having a hard time justifying purchasing one of these without a camera. That's so huge as far as what it would enable it to do.

I may grit my teeth and hold out till Rev B.

Oh wait...this has nothing to do with the original post. Humor me.
:D

[ddTaylor]

Based on what theory?

RETRACTED - my comments would only lead to more of what I am asking cnaier to avoid.

D

[ddTaylor]

Do you need to know the exact diameter of the hose clamp in your car, too?

Not a fair comparison - would you need to know the horsepower of your car engine would be a better analogy - yet that would smack-down your entire premise. it is important to know the RAM of the iPad for future-proofing reasons and the ability to jude how well it will ultimately multi-task. Why is that hard for you to understand? RAM is a HUGE issue in performance and should not be overlooked when it comes to specifications and the desire to know. The amount of RAM directly impacts my desire to buy one and that of others, so it is NOT out of line to ask and answer.

D

[Veri]

doesn't matter if the ipad comes out tomorrow. whoever screwed up should be fired because they breached confidentiality. either because they are reckless or stupid. maybe this time it doesn't matter but there will be other times where it damages somebodies business.

On the contrary, Apple shouldn't be able to invoke any confidentiality clause. The issue of spectrum pollution is in the public interest, which is why the FCC gets to review submissions in the first place. Since they do, any American should be able to. Government departments are only servants of the people, working on behalf of them - only the military/police get the privilege to hide data from their employers, and only in limited (but increasingly abused) circumstances.

But I expect an Apple employee with a good sense of marketing provided this PDF.

[koach]

If you look in the App Store for "Pad Info" which can be viewed at http://appshopper.com/utilities/pad-info you will see the device apparently contains 4GB of RAM.

:D

I wonder if that is real or just a number that the simulator puts out?

[Eldiablojoe]

Other way around.

The FCC are a government body that regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. PDF is a file format to store documents with images and text in a compressed format.

FCC is Federal Communications Commission
PDF is Portable Document Format.HaHa!! Humor Fail! :p

[Jaro65]

Toshiba NAND memory?

What a coincidence! Look what I just read:

http://dvice.com/archives/2010/04/toshibas-ultra-.php

256GB iPad by 2012? Seems likely!

We're gonna get there, and I would certainly like a 256GB iPad as then I could synch a good portion of my iTunes content. Remains to be seen if they can achieve this kind of capacity growth while maintaining the current pricepoints.

[92jlee]

doesn't matter if the ipad comes out tomorrow. whoever screwed up should be fired because they breached confidentiality. either because they are reckless or stupid. maybe this time it doesn't matter but there will be other times where it damages somebodies business.

Damages someone's business? Are you stupid? All they are doing is showing what hardware is inside - OLD hardware as per usual with Apple.