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quagmire
Sep 16, 2004, 04:51 PM
Just got home from the apple store. They just got both the 17" and 20" imac G5's this morning. The 20" imac wasn't ready to be played with. They didn't get the software installed yet(that they wanted on there).

Ok, here is my review. For using it for 1 hour I can say it is the best imac yet. The computer screams even with the 256 MB of ram in it. You can see the effects of the 5200 in there. But, average Joe won't notice. The viewing angles are ok. The horizontial angles are great. But, the vertical angles are crap. The imac G5 is really that quiet. I can't even hear the HD spinning when I put my ears near it.( The store wasn't that noisy) The ports on the back are really make imac have a clean look. The cables were neatly put throught the hole and attatched. You only need 1 finger to tilt the computer back and forth. The aluminum stand is heavy so it makes the imac really sturdy. If I got mad at it and wanted to hit it,( like I ever will) it won't even budge. The extra space below the screens don't look that bad as people think. Sure the 20" looks better then the 17" because of the space below but, really it doesn't make the computer look ugly. The plastic does get a little hot but, not as much as my 12" Powerbook G4. Even cooler then the ibooks there. The only things that does suck about the imac G5 is the 5200 and the 256 MB of ram. But, that is because my uses require more. But, the average Joe will not care for the extra ram. If I had the money to buy it I would buy it in a half of a heart beat. In my opinion after looking at the imac G5 they are as good(maybe even better) then the imac G4's design.

tech4all
Sep 16, 2004, 06:24 PM
....You can see the effects of the 5200 in there. But, average Joe won't notice....

What kind of "effects"? Can you give some examples? :)

JOD8FY
Sep 16, 2004, 06:44 PM
Thanks for the review! Glad to hear all those good things about it. How did you test out the GPU? Did you play a game? Thanks.

JOD8FY

quagmire
Sep 16, 2004, 06:54 PM
Sorry, I told someone that on my buddy list. He said it wasn't because of the GPU it was the ram. When I opened a program the black selection thing stayed there for 2-4 seconds. But, I stick with my statement about the ram. It is zippy with 256 MB and the average Joe won't notice it.

Manzana
Sep 16, 2004, 07:03 PM
...and it is a trend. This iMac is so much better in person, seeing it on the web and reading all the articles about it just don't do it justice it is that sweet.

They only had 1 out (17") with 512 RAM. I overheard that they had sold 4.

The back of the case was warm, but like the poster above stated, it's not even close to how hot my PB 15" gets. And if it wasn't for the fact that I'm hooked on portability thanks to my PB I would defenitely be looking for a way to get my paws on this.

I tried out the speakers, not impressive but serviceable for being out of the box. I would definitely have to hook up better ones. It was also very easy to tilt the screen and rotating it was a breeze. This iMac really takes up no space, when I would slide the keyboard under it, it was just tiny footprint.

I could feel the fans blowing when I put my cheek close to the back of it. This was rather embarrasing as there was always about 2-3 people trying to check it out.

JOD8FY
Sep 16, 2004, 07:38 PM
It was also very easy to tilt the screen and rotating it was a breeze.

How do you rotate it? As in from side to side, not up and down. Does it do that? Is the footprint on some sort of rotating disc?

Thanks,
JOD8FY

quagmire
Sep 16, 2004, 07:50 PM
How do you rotate it? As in from side to side, not up and down. Does it do that? Is the footprint on some sort of rotating disc?

Thanks,
JOD8FY

Well, you can tilt it up and down. But, you would have to move the whole stand to turn it sideways. But, it is very easy to do.

The speakers are very good. It is better then my 12" pbooks speakers.

crazzyeddie
Sep 16, 2004, 08:42 PM
How do you rotate it? As in from side to side, not up and down. Does it do that? Is the footprint on some sort of rotating disc?

Thanks,
JOD8FY

Theres already a third-party product that is a thin rotating base for the iMac.

FuzzyBallz
Sep 16, 2004, 08:45 PM
How do you rotate it? As in from side to side, not up and down. Does it do that? Is the footprint on some sort of rotating disc?
http://www.alibaba.com/photo/50145846/Multi_Use_Rotating_Platform.jpg

Jovian9
Sep 16, 2004, 09:15 PM
Theres already a third-party product that is a thin rotating base for the iMac.

What is the product? Link?

Don't panic
Sep 16, 2004, 09:20 PM
What is the product? Link?

iNECK (http://www.g5gear.com/ineck/index.htm)

dswoodley
Sep 16, 2004, 09:21 PM
nice review, I'm jealous!

any issues with dead pixels?

Jovian9
Sep 16, 2004, 09:26 PM
iNECK (http://www.g5gear.com/ineck/index.htm)

Thanks!

sorryiwasdreami
Sep 16, 2004, 09:34 PM
Theres already a third-party product that is a thin rotating base for the iMac.

Can you point us to it? Thanks.

edit: beaten; my appologies. $50 for that!?

quagmire
Sep 16, 2004, 09:38 PM
nice review, and congrats on your machine! I'm jealous!

any issues with dead pixels?

Note: I did not buy the imac G5 even though I would love to. I just test drove the 17" 1.6 Ghz G5 with 256 MB of ram for a hour.

Phat_Pat
Sep 16, 2004, 09:54 PM
my school is getting one and i think i will be too..... cant wait :D

MacPutz
Sep 16, 2004, 10:27 PM
Thanks for the input! Me Thinks this machine will make a great companion to my Dual 2.0 G5, so my wife can surf and check email on her own machine in her office upstairs. Any theories on time to obsolescence for the 17" G5 iMac? Does anyone think its graphics card is its Achilles Heal?

I am almost ready to order one!

FuzzyBallz
Sep 16, 2004, 11:28 PM
iNECK (http://www.g5gear.com/ineck/index.htm)
Damn, $89-$107 for a little rotating disc?

Manzana
Sep 17, 2004, 12:16 AM
the wood surface that apple store has is not "slippery", but it was very easy for me to push the sides and it would rotate perfectly...like it was meant to. Must be because the center of gravity is so low???

Johnkb
Sep 17, 2004, 12:45 AM
I hear that the front plastic is a little too reflective. Any opinions on this?

Punani
Sep 17, 2004, 01:32 AM
If anyone is interested, here are the guts of an iMac G5...

http://www.csupomona.edu/~erwintung/images/imac_g5.png

XboxEvolved
Sep 17, 2004, 02:12 AM
so if I buy an iMac G5 and get 256, and when I want to upgrade it with a 1gb stick will I be able to open it and not screw it up?

JOD8FY
Sep 17, 2004, 06:01 AM
so if I buy an iMac G5 and get 256, and when I want to upgrade it with a 1gb stick will I be able to open it and not screw it up?

That's it. Look at the picture above your post. On the right side, see that green stick? Just put another green stick in the slot next to that one and you're all set.

JOD8FY

Diatribe
Sep 17, 2004, 06:13 AM
Thanks for the input! Me Thinks this machine will make a great companion to my Dual 2.0 G5, so my wife can surf and check email on her own machine in her office upstairs. Any theories on time to obsolescence for the 17" G5 iMac? Does anyone think its graphics card is its Achilles Heal?

I am almost ready to order one!

The 5200 in my powerbook plays UT 2004 all right. I'd say with the G5 you'd be able to play it without hickups even on large maps with dozens of people. But if you don't even play stuff like that and are not into video rendering, editing, etc. this mac will last a couple of years easily.
It always depends on what you want to do with it. I'd bet that the next Rev. has a ATI 9800 with 128MB VRAM at least as an option.
Edit: Although it should've been standard in the first place.

edesignuk
Sep 17, 2004, 06:25 AM
Damn, $89-$107 for a little rotating disc?No, "€/$ 49,95 (17”version) and €/$ 59,95 (20”version)"

FuzzyBallz
Sep 17, 2004, 02:12 PM
No, "€/$ 49,95 (17”version) and €/$ 59,95 (20”version)"
Ever heard of exchange rate?

KevRC4130
Sep 17, 2004, 04:06 PM
Ever heard of exchange rate?

notice that its euro/ DOLLAR!

Meaning, it costs the same amount of dollars as it does Euro. They're kind of ripping they europeans off, but then again usually things cost quite a bit mroe across the pond.

earthtoandy
Sep 17, 2004, 04:53 PM
i got to play with the 20" today! WOW! its gorgeous. extremely quiet. the pictures dont do it justice at all.

1. Screen is gorgeous and amazing. really beautiful.
2.Overall look is great. Very sleek but bold.
3. EXTREMELY quiet. I tried everything to try and get it to make some noise. Only when i pressed my hear hard against it could i even hear a little buzz.
4. something people havent mentioned, speaker! they are FAR better than i could of expected. Full robust sound that seems to fill the whole area. Not the greatest on volume but no slouch either. way way better than could be expected.
5. and it seemed (although i couldnt test it too much) to really be speedy.
6. Also extremely sturdy. seems as stable as a normal tower. glides on the desk as you rotate it and it tilts on the hinge as well and smoothly as the cinemadisplays...and anyone who has touched those knows they are a dream

great machine... i want one now.

of course then i went over to the g5 powermac with the 23" screen and i REALLY want that

edesignuk
Sep 17, 2004, 05:36 PM
Ever heard of exchange rate?Yes I have. Ever read that quote properly? "€/$" = Same amount for both currency!

http://upload.yo-momma.net/uploads/funny/potatowned.gif

MacUser1
Sep 17, 2004, 05:50 PM
Yes I have. Ever read that quote properly? "€/$" = Same amount for both currency!

http://upload.yo-momma.net/uploads/funny/potatowned.gif

that's too funny :D :D :D

kirk26
Sep 17, 2004, 06:54 PM
What kind of "effects"? Can you give some examples? :)


Give us an ********** break about the video card.

FuzzyBallz
Sep 17, 2004, 07:58 PM
Damn, I was thinking about British Pound...

Anyway, Euro does not equal USD, thanks to GW and company. It's 1 Euro to 1.22 USD.

tech4all
Sep 19, 2004, 01:12 AM
Give us an ********** break about the video card.

Whoa, cool it down man, no need to lash out so harsly since I wasn't saying anything bad about the video card in the first place. He said something to that fact that the graphics were hindered due to the graphics card, so I simply asked if they could give some examples of these "hinders" in the graphics (such as minimizing a window or something). He then said it wasn't the graphics card but rather the 256mb RAM. Might want to read more carefully next time before making unneccassry remarks :rolleyes: ;)

Also, I actually agree with you about people making a big deal about the graphics card, I have the same card if my Mac and I got no problems with it.

ToddW
Sep 19, 2004, 05:08 PM
Well it has been roughly 30 hrs since I have had my new iMac. This was IMHO a great impulsive purchasing decision. I will first give you a bit of a background.

Being a PC user for a ver long time, I have grown quite discusted with them. It is enough I have to use them everyday at work and develop hardware and software for them, I was using them at home. I built PC's for people, I was the PC geek that you read in all of the forums. Then I decided to change platforms.

Back in April I bought a powerbook. That is a great little machine. After a few months of use, I started to realize that what I needed was a desktop. I rarely used the portability of the powerbook. I used it as a desktop replacement.

Then this month the iMac G5 appeared. This thing caught my eye, after scouring the internet over the past couple of weeks looking at pictures reading all the information I could, I decided I wanted one. Well yesterday that came true. Proud owner of the G5 iMac 20".

This sucker is awesome. I have been doing everything on it that I did with my powerbook, but with a bigger screen and with greater ease. Transferring my information from the powerbook was a snap. The screen is eligant and is great for watching DVDs, videos, and other things. This thing is great for photoshop and the iLife suite runs without a hitch. The biggest test I have done so far is compiling control system programs in Matlab all day, which by the way is an X11 application. The only negative thing I can say is that the keyboard had a few keys that did not work. One call to apple and my keyboard is on the way.

Devie
Sep 20, 2004, 01:48 AM
congrats ToddW!
Post some piccies :D

edesignuk
Sep 20, 2004, 02:01 AM
Anyway, Euro does not equal USD, thanks to GW and company. It's 1 Euro to 1.22 USD.
I know euro doesn't = dollar, but that doesn't change the fact that they have chosen to sell the product for the same ammount in both currencies. Exchange rate doesn't come in to it.

t300
Sep 20, 2004, 03:20 AM
Well it has been roughly 30 hrs since I have had my new iMac. This was IMHO a great impulsive purchasing decision. I will first give you a bit of a background.

Being a PC user for a ver long time, I have grown quite discusted with them. It is enough I have to use them everyday at work and develop hardware and software for them, I was using them at home. I built PC's for people, I was the PC geek that you read in all of the forums. Then I decided to change platforms.

Back in April I bought a powerbook. That is a great little machine. After a few months of use, I started to realize that what I needed was a desktop. I rarely used the portability of the powerbook. I used it as a desktop replacement.

Then this month the iMac G5 appeared. This thing caught my eye, after scouring the internet over the past couple of weeks looking at pictures reading all the information I could, I decided I wanted one. Well yesterday that came true. Proud owner of the G5 iMac 20".

This sucker is awesome. I have been doing everything on it that I did with my powerbook, but with a bigger screen and with greater ease. Transferring my information from the powerbook was a snap. The screen is eligant and is great for watching DVDs, videos, and other things. This thing is great for photoshop and the iLife suite runs without a hitch. The biggest test I have done so far is compiling control system programs in Matlab all day, which by the way is an X11 application. The only negative thing I can say is that the keyboard had a few keys that did not work. One call to apple and my keyboard is on the way.

I like reviews like this...I hardly consider the "I went to the Apple store and played on one for a while" reviews something to take into consideration. I question their validity, like everyone questions Pat's (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110169/) sex.

Diatribe
Sep 20, 2004, 05:47 AM
I like reviews like this...I hardly consider the "I went to the Apple store and played on one for a while" reviews something to take into consideration. I question their validity, like everyone questions Pat's (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110169/) sex.

I missed the part where "I do everything I did with my powerbook but with greater ease" is something worthier to take into consideration than a first impression in a store that was a pretty nice read.
I am not discriminating either post/review here and I am appreciating every bit of "experience" with a new product, so while you may or may not find a particular "review" worthy of YOUR consideration, some people may differ although that may be amazingly strange for you. So just leave it at that.

t300
Sep 20, 2004, 09:20 AM
I missed the part where "I do everything I did with my powerbook but with greater ease" is something worthier to take into consideration than a first impression in a store that was a pretty nice read.
I am not discriminating either post/review here and I am appreciating every bit of "experience" with a new product, so while you may or may not find a particular "review" worthy of YOUR consideration, some people may differ although that may be amazingly strange for you. So just leave it at that.

No, no, no, no. I wasn't aiming this directly at you...you are hardly the target. But there are some I have seen that have been, well, minimal. I apologize for the confusion. G'day.

quagmire
Sep 20, 2004, 04:06 PM
No, no, no, no. I wasn't aiming this directly at you...you are hardly the target. But there are some I have seen that have been, well, minimal. I apologize for the confusion. G'day.

So you are aiming at me then. I played with it for a hour. Did all the tests I considered the big ones and the one that will make the imac sell. The imac really needs at least 512 MB to run perfectly. But, 256 MB will not make the imac unbareibly slow.

Elan0204
Sep 22, 2004, 12:43 AM
I got my iMac today, so here is a short review:

In brief, I can tell you that it is great! You can hear it in a silent room, but it is very quiet. My PowerBook wasn't perfectly silent, and i wouldn't say this is louder. I haven't done anything that caused the fans to ramp up yet, even though I have done things that would have gotten my PowerBook's fans going (probably at full speed, too). I think Apple's claims are well justified in the "softer than a whisper" department. You have to remember that you can here a whisper in a silent room, and likewise, you can hear the iMac too.

The speakers as expected don't have much bass, but I think they are fine for being built-in. The way my desk is, the whole bouncing sound off the desk thing doesn't really work as Apple would have intended, so I think the speakers could sound better if I rearranged things. Personally, I don't care enough to bother. If I need better sound, I'll connect my external speakers.

I think the screen is very bright, but the room I am in doesn't have very bright lights. The room is by no means dark, but it isn't an office with large fluorescent lights or anything. In order to not hurt my eyes, I had to set the brighness a bit below half.

I went with the 20" model, and the screen is gigantic. Coming from my 15.2" PowerBook, I'm definitely going through an adjustment period. It looks like my sceen has no dead/stuck pixels, but I haven't run a pixel check program or anything. However, I think if there were any, I would have noticed them by now. Viewing angles are excellent as expected. Adjusting the screen is very easy, and can be done with one finger. As i had suspected, the 20" model does look much more proportional than the 17" does, thanks to the white space under the screen.

So far I've been very impressed with performance. I have 512MB of RAM right now, and haven't bothered swithcing the Processor Performance setting from Automatic. I haven't done anything yet that would really push the iMac, so I can't comment on performace too in depth. So far though, I haven't found myself waiting for much of anything, and applications open much faster than on my PowerBook.

That's all I can think of at the moment, but feel free to ask questions.

I guess that wasn't that short of a review after all. :D

BakedBeans
Sep 22, 2004, 03:06 AM
this machine must be really good as its getting me to start thinking about selling the powerbook and getting the imac.... its got edesign thinking aswell.... have you got any pics? any benchmarks?

Diatribe
Sep 22, 2004, 03:18 AM
Barefeats has posted benchmarks. See this thread. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=89963)

Elan0204
Sep 22, 2004, 11:59 AM
In case people were wondering, the 160GB drive is from Seagate and spins at 7200 RPM with 8MB of cache. Here is a link (http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,585,00.html) to more information.

If anyone has some other questions feel free to ask.

Devie
Sep 23, 2004, 03:29 AM
In case people were wondering, the 160GB drive is from Seagate and spins at 7200 RPM with 8MB of cache. Here is a link (http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,585,00.html) to more information.

If anyone has some other questions feel free to ask.
Can you upload some decent-sized pics with the flash off? :P
I've yet to see decent 20" iMac pics...