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gwynne
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
Congrats, MBP waiters. :)



Dr Yueh
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
Up it is
Same C2 in the low-end MBP 13" right?

dsburdette
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
Just refreshed and it's back up!

tactician1016
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
The store is back, and updated with the specs!
However... the base 15 went up 100.

bwenz
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
Apple.com isn't down indeed, but try clicking the link on "Store" on the upper hand of the page.

Then reply again. :)

Thats not down either ;)

adztaylor
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
No love for the 13inch.

SolRayz
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
Apple has updated....:D:D:D

Let the rants begin!!!

SteveSparks
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
Wow! 13" still CD2 :(

Shadow
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
UK store is up

dennis123123
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
c2d STILL?!? WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!

oh well, glad I still have a nice "up to date" last year model pro :)

Flackhead
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
Big disappointment about the 13 inch macbook pro!!

I hoped for an i3, now im going to rethink..

Schizoid
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
Why do they take the store down for so long? I would have thought that they would set up and validate the new content on an offline copy, and even do a dry run of the update process using offline copies, so that the real update could take minutes rather than hours.

Given how disruptive these store updates are, and the fact that this is worldwide, I'm really hoping that Apple will use this outage as the opportunity to open up iPad pre-orders for the next countries to get it (e.g. the UK).

- Julian

I bet that sticky note page gets more hits than most websites! We'll see iAds on it soon!

Cerebral
Apr 13, 2010, 07:37 AM
FFS! C2D on 13" lame...(rethinks purchase)

Dave351
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
# 512GB Solid State Drive [Add $1,300.00]

Yikes!!!! :eek:

jambobowron
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
Back Up!!!! Yay

Kilamite
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
1680x1050 resolution available as an extra on the 15" MBP.

Julianne
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
its up.. new macbook pros !! yippie!

20LEGEND
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
WTFFFF. No i5 on the 13". :'(

Buck987
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
They did for me in 5th ave store


my nearby store will do ram

nomad421
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
Oh ****! They all have crap GPUs :( !!!

Ichorus
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
Nope :( im in work, I could phone but I couldn't talk. It put me right through to someone. one of you guys can get the price. Its a free number anyway.

Poop, should have spoke to the person. Must have meant nothing. Seen as it is not on the site.. :( booooooooo. More waiting then.

must
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
mabooks pro updated !!! !! ! !!

KnightWRX
Apr 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
No love for the 13inch.

Well, at least it got a 320M instead of the 310 being rumored.

fatespawn
Apr 13, 2010, 07:39 AM
13' Core 2 Duo..... ouch.

snowleopard13
Apr 13, 2010, 07:39 AM
Core2Duo @ 13inch??!! Seriously Apple?

*LTD*
Apr 13, 2010, 07:39 AM
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1600/store1.png

sfwalter
Apr 13, 2010, 07:39 AM
Good grief Apple. I like the 13" for its size, not its underperforming cpu

Foggy
Apr 13, 2010, 07:40 AM
nm

melllvar
Apr 13, 2010, 07:40 AM
Glass Multi-Touch trackpad with support for inertial scrolling

whats that??

DipDog3
Apr 13, 2010, 07:40 AM
FFS! C2D on 13" lame...(rethinks purchase)

I was also looking to get a 13", but not if it is not updated!

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

King Mook Mook
Apr 13, 2010, 07:40 AM
No info on iPad in Australia (or other countries!) :'(

Steve121178
Apr 13, 2010, 07:40 AM
I expect a lot of people might be disappointed with the update...

gwynne
Apr 13, 2010, 07:40 AM
On this page it says: 17-inch. Starts at $2499:

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

But here it seems to be $2,299.00.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro?aid=AIC-WWW-NAUS-K2-BUYNOW-MACBOOKPRO-INDEX&cp=BUYNOW-MACBOOKPRO-INDEX

Not a big deal, just wondering why that is.

KnightWRX
Apr 13, 2010, 07:40 AM
15" 1440 by 900 (native) fail.

cervaro
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
So nice to see Apple still use the exchange rates to shaft UK customers! :(

paddykev
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
UK store is up and new MBP!:cool:

Robert M.
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
Wow....the 13's still have the C2D

Ironduke
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

Apple have shafted the 13"

and upped the price.
ahhahahhahahah


999 UKP
pathetic

Pascal2000
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
Store is back up!!!!

*LTD*
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
13-inch MBPs are for chodes! Get an iPad instead! :p

jtrenda33
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
is anyone else disappointed with the update? pretty minor with the exception of the i7s.

Buck987
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
I predicted i3 in the 13"....maybe the supply is low so apple is sticking with the CD2.

I don't know anything about the graphic chips?

Are they any good?

foofan
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
512GB Solid State Drive [Add $1,300.00]

PUUUHHHLLEEEAAASE!

PoianaNana
Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 AM
New specs online:
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html
First!

SpaceKitty
Apr 13, 2010, 07:42 AM
No mention of firewire on the 15"? Never mind, I see it now.

Bearxor
Apr 13, 2010, 07:42 AM
1680x1050 res on the 15" makes me happy :)

Also, the dedicated 320M on the 13" makes it a real choice for me. I'm very happy about this update, but am kind of scratching my head as to why there's no 17" i7 and if the i7 in the 15" is a quad-core or not. Can't seem to find it.

NVM: I see the i7 17" is a selectable option, just not a preconfigured one.

*LTD*
Apr 13, 2010, 07:43 AM
And yet, these too will sell in record numbers.

(Unless of course everyone decides to get an iPad instead.) ;)

Aduntu
Apr 13, 2010, 07:43 AM
15" does have firewire.

20LEGEND
Apr 13, 2010, 07:43 AM
New specs online:
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html
First!
That hasn't been updated yet.

kbmb
Apr 13, 2010, 07:43 AM
No mention of firewire on the 15"?

Firewire on all Pro models.

-Kevin

gwynne
Apr 13, 2010, 07:43 AM
"Late April".

askipper
Apr 13, 2010, 07:43 AM
So nice to see Apple still use the exchange rates to shaft UK customers! :(

Exactly - what a rip off. Even when the xrate is ***** at $1.5=£1 instead of $2=£1 like a year or so ago - they still rip us off with an xrate of $1.2=£1 - what a total rip off. OK, if you import from the US you have 10% duty and 17.5% tax to pay but I assume there's sales tax in the US anyway

Rip off - a $2000 MBP should be £1400 max in the UK

Moomba
Apr 13, 2010, 07:43 AM
I called and they said the "ships within 24 hours" is actually 2-3 business days according to their system on the backend.

danielsamuels
Apr 13, 2010, 07:44 AM
512GB Solid State Drive [Add $1,300.00]

PUUUHHHLLEEEAAASE!

Find one better. (http://www.google.com/products?q=512GB%20Solid%20State%20Drive&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf)

Cerebral
Apr 13, 2010, 07:44 AM
My current feelings towards apple and 13"

http://i43.tinypic.com/2d7g7s4.jpg

miles01110
Apr 13, 2010, 07:44 AM
New battery too. Up to 8-9 hours on the 15", 10 hours on the 13".

SpaceKitty
Apr 13, 2010, 07:44 AM
Firewire on all Pro models.

-Kevin

I see that now, I just missed it before.

badmac78
Apr 13, 2010, 07:44 AM
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro?mco=OTY2ODExMA

MorphingDragon
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

Apple have shafted the 13"

and upped the price.
ahhahahhahahah


999 UKP
pathetic

Its cheaper in New Zealand, the 13" now starts at $2k not $2.5ish.

h4ck
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
meh.. i5 in only 15"+ .. 13" is still core2duo. figures. i don't need to lug around a 15".

AdamA9
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
Meh, beaten to it...

Kilamite
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
High resolution anti-glare is a rip off in the UK!

Costs the same in £ as it does in $!

aznguyen316
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
pretty weak update on the 13". 15" got 330m which is okay, discrete and nvidia optimus it looks.

PoianaNana
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
That hasn't been updated yet.

yes it is...

refresh your browser's page...

try it out bu yourself!!!

oh... my... gosh... they are here!

odedia
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
Store is updated with specs:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45692/macbokpros.JPG

snverhallen
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
When Steve Jobs allegedly replied to an email about the MacBooks he said not to worry, I got the impression that something impressive was coming.

I mean the processor speed bumps (i7) is nice but I was expecting a bit more TBH.

Hopefully there blazin' fast.

neteng101
Apr 13, 2010, 07:45 AM
is anyone else disappointed with the update? pretty minor with the exception of the i7s.

Quite expected really - Core i5/i7s, the hi-res screen option on 15", Nvidia Optimus graphics, 16:10 display resolutions remain, no Blu-Ray.

Yes some will be disappointed but that was the realistic refresh, basically more CPU/GPU, screen options, newer HDD/SDD options.

JoeDMD
Apr 13, 2010, 07:46 AM
A mac upgrade that isn't a ripoff-
the 512gb ssds actually cost that much.

SimonTheSoundMa
Apr 13, 2010, 07:46 AM
No ExpressCard on the 15inch, again.

jtrenda33
Apr 13, 2010, 07:46 AM
1680x1050 res on the 15" makes me happy :)

Also, the dedicated 320M on the 13" makes it a real choice for me. I'm very happy about this update, but am kind of scratching my head as to why there's no 17" i7 and if the i7 in the 15" is a quad-core or not. Can't seem to find it.

17 inch does have i7.

Drinahn
Apr 13, 2010, 07:46 AM
Sorry, you're buying a 13" laptop and complaining about the processor only being a C2D still? It's the lower end laptop in the line-up, expecting it to have the same specs as a 17" version but with smaller display is never quite going to happen.

Personally I can't see what I could possibly ever do on a tidgy little laptop like that that would warrant more number-crunching capacity. Unless you're just doing protein folding because you're bored?

I'd be more disappointed about the relatively flat scale of GPU performance across the line-up. I'm a bit disappointed also that the Mac Pro and Macbook Air haven't been updated. The Buyer's Guide here basically will now say "Don't buy a mac unless you want a MBP"

Bah.

KnightWRX
Apr 13, 2010, 07:46 AM
1680x1050 res on the 15" makes me happy :)

Optional :

# MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Glossy Widescreen Display [Add $100.00]
# MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display [Add $150.00]

100$ fail.

oceptis
Apr 13, 2010, 07:46 AM
I waited all this time for a 13" core iX. What a fool I am. Perhaps they're not done quite yet but at least I won't have to pay more for the RAM and HDD I wanted to upgrade.

BeachChair
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
How is the 320M compared to what they had before (9400M?)

ps45
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
Apple products are a rip off in the UK!


Fixed that for you.

PoianaNana
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
Core i*

Nvidia 330

168'x1050 (optional)

HDD or SSD

up to 8-9 hours of wireless work!

OMG!

applemax
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
It says in the tech specs that they now have subwoofers? That wasn't listed in the old ones... :confused:

mondesi43
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
I was also looking to get a 13", but not if it is not updated!

:mad::mad::mad::mad:


RAM is 4GB now standard and it looks like a better battery....correct? For the same price as before. Don't know about the graphics card compared to the one in our MBP, but to me that's a quasi $200 price drop.

edit: Looks like the graphics card is significantly better along with the battery.

jackpinkus
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
The Aussie Store!
http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro?mco=MTM3NDc0NDI

Eric M
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
1680x1050 res on the 15" makes me happy :)

Also, the dedicated 320M on the 13" makes it a real choice for me. I'm very happy about this update, but am kind of scratching my head as to why there's no 17" i7 and if the i7 in the 15" is a quad-core or not. Can't seem to find it.

NVM: I see the i7 17" is a selectable option, just not a preconfigured one.

as per title :)

La Porta
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
At least Apple didn't take away the anti-glare option on these. That's been the trend across the other lines, so you guys should be happy as such...

iLog.Genius
Apr 13, 2010, 07:47 AM
1680x1050 res on the 15" makes me happy :)

Also, the dedicated 320M on the 13" makes it a real choice for me. I'm very happy about this update, but am kind of scratching my head as to why there's no 17" i7 and if the i7 in the 15" is a quad-core or not. Can't seem to find it.

Yeah, too bad it's an upgrade which costs $105 CDN. I don't understand why Apple would not make the 1680x1050 resolution native/standard? As for the i7 17-inch, I'm think they're going to try to make it different, something similar to when they updated the 17-inch to the unibody architecture last.

It's a nice update but again, Apple makes you feel that some of these new features should've been here a while ago but when they finally introduce it, they make you pay for it.

20LEGEND
Apr 13, 2010, 07:48 AM
I waited all this time for a 13" core iX. What a fool I am.
Feel the same way. :(

h4ck
Apr 13, 2010, 07:48 AM
huh? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/280596/mbpro.png

why do i see i5 and i7 macbook pros?

Meh, beaten to it...

*LTD*
Apr 13, 2010, 07:48 AM
Features at a glance:

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

TheDrift-
Apr 13, 2010, 07:48 AM
£120.00 for an antiglare screen!!

runeasgar
Apr 13, 2010, 07:48 AM
do apple stores have the new laptops day of?

kkook
Apr 13, 2010, 07:49 AM
Who will choose the 13" C2D? Cmon Apple.:mad:

KnightWRX
Apr 13, 2010, 07:49 AM
Sorry, you're buying a 13" laptop and complaining about the processor only being a C2D still? It's the lower end laptop in the line-up, expecting it to have the same specs as a 17" version but with smaller display is never quite going to happen.

You're right, just about every other manufacturer understood long ago that Specs and Screen size aren't tied together. We should quit on hoping Apple to see the light.

Because you know, everyone wants to drag around a 17" behemoth or they don't need the extra processing power. :rolleyes:

dcoux09
Apr 13, 2010, 07:49 AM
OK, worst update in history? NOTHING new for the 13"... that being said, what's the difference between a core 2 duo and i5... would I have seen a difference?

co80126
Apr 13, 2010, 07:49 AM
wow....cant even get hdmi...i mean i wanted blue ray but didnt expect it, but atleast hdmi....this really isnt anything special of an update

*LTD*
Apr 13, 2010, 07:49 AM
MASSIVE battery update.

tomjleeds
Apr 13, 2010, 07:50 AM
Sorry, you're buying a 13" laptop and complaining about the processor only being a C2D still? It's the lower end laptop in the line-up, expecting it to have the same specs as a 17" version but with smaller display is never quite going to happen.

Personally I can't see what I could possibly ever do on a tidgy little laptop like that that would warrant more number-crunching capacity. Unless you're just doing protein folding because you're bored?

I'd be more disappointed about the relatively flat scale of GPU performance across the line-up. I'm a bit disappointed also that the Mac Pro and Macbook Air haven't been updated. The Buyer's Guide here basically will now say "Don't buy a mac unless you want a MBP"

Bah.

Er...have you heard of using an external display? No?

What if I want all that grunt on the desktop but would like to be able to take it places? Why do I have to be a machine with a bigger screen? What does screen size have to do with grunt anyway?

Not all of us are editing video.

r0k
Apr 13, 2010, 07:50 AM
New Macbook Pros. No changes (that I noticed) to anything else. It's not time for me to replace my Macbook yet so I glanced at the new MBP line, drooled for a second, then closed the tab. Whoa. Had to do an "undo close tab" to go back and check the cpus. Yes, there's core i5's and a core i7. The low end (my end of the line) are still core duos but everybody gets 4 gig of RAM now.

SimonTheSoundMa
Apr 13, 2010, 07:50 AM
Compare the 330M here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-330M.22437.0.html

Would at east have liked the see the 360M as an option for 15 and 17 inch models.

bottsjw
Apr 13, 2010, 07:50 AM
disappointing not to see an improvement in the 13". Sure, leave the C2D in the MB, but the Pros should all have an i#. Disappointing...

hexor
Apr 13, 2010, 07:50 AM
These weren't expected to be announced at an Apple event so it should be no surprise that these are a simple gpu/cpu refresh.

BeachChair
Apr 13, 2010, 07:51 AM
Audio

* Stereo speakers with subwoofers

que?

applemax
Apr 13, 2010, 07:51 AM
Pretty glad I didn't wait for this update! My last-gen MacBook Pro is still awesome!! :)

1984
Apr 13, 2010, 07:51 AM
Still no $&@#ing Blu-Ray! Not even as an option!

M87
Apr 13, 2010, 07:51 AM
Well, I'm completely underwhelmed.

Jolt
Apr 13, 2010, 07:51 AM
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

Apple have shafted the 13"

and upped the price.
ahhahahhahahah


999 UKP
pathetic

Not really. The old base model (2.26) MBP13 was 999UKP when you picked the 4GB ram upgrade. They've just made it standard now, and you get a few other upgrades thrown in (faster cpu, bigger hdd, more battery, better gfx).

KnightWRX
Apr 13, 2010, 07:52 AM
OK, worst update in history? NOTHING new for the 13"...

Except bigger hard drives, more RAM and a new GPU. Yeah, NOTHING new indeed. :rolleyes:

karlwig
Apr 13, 2010, 07:52 AM
guys, if you dont just look at the specs in the "buy now" page, youll actually see that the battery has been upgraded as well.... 2 more hours! didnt expect that.

EDIT: guess someone beat me to it.

mac8867
Apr 13, 2010, 07:52 AM
All I have to say on the new models is "yyyyyaaaaaawwwwwnnnnn"

glad I didn't wait, my 2009 13" is perfect.

*LTD*
Apr 13, 2010, 07:52 AM
OK, worst update in history? NOTHING new for the 13"... that being said, what's the difference between a core 2 duo and i5... would I have seen a difference?

Why the frustration? Just enjoy them. They can do anything you'd want them to do and do it reasonably well, all while running OS X.

SOFTWARE is the whole point, not really the hardware specs. Been this way for a long time now.

Are you really surprised?

kbmb
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
Who will choose the 13" C2D? Cmon Apple.:mad:

Errr.....maybe someone that wants a 13" screen? :D

-Kevin

xROBERTxDAVISx
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
You wont get a 3g announcement until the rest of the world get the wifi model so just keep an eye out about the uk wifi models.

Bearxor
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
How is the 320M compared to what they had before (9400M?)

It's basically a rebadged 9600M GT.

rwbean
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
I waited all this time for a 13" core iX. What a fool I am. Perhaps they're not done quite yet but at least I won't have to pay more for the RAM and HDD I wanted to upgrade.

And I waited all this time for USB 3.0 ... three months after HP, ASUS, everyone else has (admittedly top line) models with it, Apple can't do it. What a joke. :confused:

And I count myself as a fan. Others will be pissed off by the lack of Blu-Ray, but I didn't want that, so could be objective and knew that was never going to happen.

bergmef
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
Sorry, you're buying a 13" laptop and complaining about the processor only being a C2D still? It's the lower end laptop in the line-up, expecting it to have the same specs as a 17" version but with smaller display is never quite going to happen.

Personally I can't see what I could possibly ever do on a tidgy little laptop like that that would warrant more number-crunching capacity. Unless you're just doing protein folding because you're bored?

I'd be more disappointed about the relatively flat scale of GPU performance across the line-up. I'm a bit disappointed also that the Mac Pro and Macbook Air haven't been updated. The Buyer's Guide here basically will now say "Don't buy a mac unless you want a MBP"

Bah.
I look at the 13 inch macbook as the low end and 13 inch macbook pro as a smaller version of the pro line, not a gimped or low end laptop. It's just smaller or it shouldn't be in the pro group.

Just my opinion (and yes, I was hoping for a decent 13 incher).

MorphingDragon
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
You're right, just about every other manufacturer understood long ago that Specs and Screen size aren't tied together. We should quit on hoping Apple to see the light.

Because you know, everyone wants to drag around a 17" behemoth or they don't need the extra processing power. :rolleyes:

I've found several exceptions to that rule, mainly gaming laptops and the 17"ers that only have normal dual core parts.

McBeats
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
Reports sayin gefore 320 in the 13 inchers and 330 in the bigger ones

cawesjmu
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
From Apple's website under features:

"Depending on which application you’re running, these models automatically switch between the blazingly fast discrete NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M processor and power-efficient integrated Intel HD Graphics."

Sweet. I know a lot of people hated the fact you had to log out switch graphic cards before.

akjs2396
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
I still have my 2008 unibody 13" macbook, C2D 2.4 with 4GB ram.

Today's 13" "update" gives me no reason to update either, totally razzed off!

And still no UK iPad pricing!!!


arrrrrrrrgh!:mad::mad::mad::mad::apple:

Ed91
Apr 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
It looks as if my 2007 MBP will live to see another revision. Admittedly, there's a new enclosure, multitouch trackpad, faster bus, superior battery life and better graphics.. hmm. It's sounding better every minute..

But it still suits my needs, and while it does that I certainly can't justify £1649 for a mid range 15" :eek:

20LEGEND
Apr 13, 2010, 07:54 AM
Apple really screwed me over this time. Waited 3.5 months for a new top end 13" pro. And they decide not to shove an i5 into it. I'm going to cry myself to sleep now. Night.

gtokidd
Apr 13, 2010, 07:54 AM
i5 and GeForce GT 330M with only 256 MB? $1800? I was hoping for a little more for this price.

commander.data
Apr 13, 2010, 07:54 AM
Interestingly they offer an HDMI output adapter now but still no Blu-Ray.

Looks like the 13" MBP got a significant GPU boost from the 9400M to the GT320M. But the 15" and 17" MBP are stuck with the GT330M? What is the TDP of the GT320M? It better not be the same as the GT330M since that would mean Apple made now real use of the larger thermal room in the larger models.

*LTD*
Apr 13, 2010, 07:54 AM
As long as it'll run EVE Online and Aperture nicely I'm ok with it. ;)

Hog
Apr 13, 2010, 07:54 AM
ewww the 13'' !! ..so gimp

Aaon
Apr 13, 2010, 07:54 AM
Well, I am not thrilled, but it is good enough for me to pull the trigger. I think the middle Macbook Pro with the high-res screen is the one for me. Now, that being said,the high end 15" has, in addition to the slightly faster processor, an additional 256mb of dedicated graphics memory on the 330M. Do you think this will make a difference? That is, is the additional $200bucks worth it for the faster processor and graphics memory? I'm interested in your thoughts, since my current macbook pro is the old first generation core duo model (not the C2D).

puffnstuff
Apr 13, 2010, 07:54 AM
would a 13" 2.66ghz w/ 8gb ram be ok for FCP,AE,Photoshop,etc? :(

Maserati7200
Apr 13, 2010, 07:54 AM
I said this four times and I'll say it again: if the MBP's are going to get updated around now (which they probably are), it's going to be a week or two after this event, as a silent update. (most likely APRIL 12-13 or APRIL 19-20). In 2009, the Mac Pros, iMacs, and Mac Minis were updated two weeks before the March 2009 iPhone OS 3.0 event, and in 2008, the iMacs were updated a week after the March 2008 event for iPhone OS 2.0.
Was I right or was I right?

xyz01
Apr 13, 2010, 07:55 AM
Sorry, you're buying a 13" laptop and complaining about the processor only being a C2D still? It's the lower end laptop in the line-up, expecting it to have the same specs as a 17" version but with smaller display is never quite going to happen.


This is a Pro laptop, not the normal macbook. For many of us who use the computers at work, screen size is not about "bigger is better", but of what size is a best compromise between portability (travel, and moving it around internally for meetings and presentations), normal work scenarios (e.g., do you have extra screen and keyboard at the normal desk), battery lifetime etc.

E.g. Macbook air was never positioned as "small, and thus cheap".

*LTD*
Apr 13, 2010, 07:55 AM
But will it run Crysis?

BeachChair
Apr 13, 2010, 07:55 AM
It's basically a rebadged 9600M GT.

Well that doesnt make me any wiser.

KnightWRX
Apr 13, 2010, 07:55 AM
I've found several exceptions to that rule, mainly gaming laptops and the 17"ers that only have normal dual core parts.

My point exactly. Other manufacturers know that 13" laptops don't mean low specs or 17" laptops don't mean high specs.

OllyW
Apr 13, 2010, 07:56 AM
I still have my 2008 unibody 13" macbook, C2D 2.4 with 4GB ram.

Today's 13" "update" gives me no reason to update either, totally razzed off!

And still no UK iPad pricing!!!


arrrrrrrrgh!:mad::mad::mad::mad::apple:

You should be happy, it's saved you tons of money. :D

chris7777
Apr 13, 2010, 07:56 AM
Store Is Back Up

NVIDIA GeForce 320M on 13's
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M on 15's up

SimonTheSoundMa
Apr 13, 2010, 07:56 AM
But will it run Crysis?

No.

Steve121178
Apr 13, 2010, 07:56 AM
I'm surprised none of you ever get upset about the lack of integrated WWAN...

applemax
Apr 13, 2010, 07:56 AM
But will it run Crysis?

...and will it blend?! :p

ipoppy
Apr 13, 2010, 07:57 AM
Generally I am a bit disappointed by the update especially because of price here in UK. Thats too expensive for that what they got to offer.
I wanted either new Macbook Pro or Macbook Air. Now I stay with my old MBP and see what updated MBA will bring; hopefully with at least i3.

Just bought it iMac 27" with i7 and 16GB Ram. That will keep me going for a while ;)

-=XX=-Nephilim
Apr 13, 2010, 07:57 AM
i5 and i7 are great and hope rumours are true! :)

but how about the graphics cards!?!?!?!

I truly hope they moved up from 9600 >_<

Saturn1217
Apr 13, 2010, 07:57 AM
Does anyone else wish that apple would offer a 13inch MBP at like 1799 that is an actual PRO laptop?

If they were going to slap the Pro label on it and get everyone excited they need to give a viable option to those whole like portability but still want the options of a MBP!!!

Sorry just venting I guess.

I mean they didn't even give us a matte or high res screen option :(

On the bright side my low end last generation MBP still feels quite current and I have absolutely no reason to do something stupid like sell my current computer and give apple more money *phew!*

gtokidd
Apr 13, 2010, 07:57 AM
But will it run Crysis?

Thats a good question.

jviphone
Apr 13, 2010, 07:58 AM
Ill be selling my month old c2d 2.66 15" for 1800.00 wish there was a way apple would take this back :( even with a restocking fee. BUt im not sure the upgrade is worth all the hassle.

MetaKnight
Apr 13, 2010, 07:59 AM
I personally am glad that I waited...even for the 13. Faster gpu, faster cpu, and larger hard drive standard. Longer battery life is a plus.... basically a better computer. An i5 would've been nice, but I can deal ;)

applemax
Apr 13, 2010, 07:59 AM
Ill be selling my month old c2d 2.66 15" for 1800.00 wish there was a way apple would take this back :( even with a restocking fee. BUt im not sure the upgrade is worth all the hassle.

It's not.

20LEGEND
Apr 13, 2010, 07:59 AM
Thought about it long and hard. I was really really hoping for i5 on the 13 inchers, but alas, it was not to be.
Going to get this now - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127032 - since I really need a new laptop. I'm guessing I'l be able to hackint0sh it since the 15" MBPs have very similar hardware.

I'm seriously heartbroken. :'(

Bearxor
Apr 13, 2010, 08:01 AM
Well that doesnt make me any wiser.

Sorry, I just figured that telling you it was the same card that was in the previous 15" and 17" models was enough. It's a significant step up for the 13".

As for the 330m, well... It's a step up, but not a significant one from the 9600m. It's basically a rebadged 9700m GT.

But, honestly, with nVidia's mobile GPU lineup right now, there's not a whole lot of options.

ucdortbes
Apr 13, 2010, 08:01 AM
moved to the new thread.

dcoux09
Apr 13, 2010, 08:01 AM
Except bigger hard drives, more RAM and a new GPU. Yeah, NOTHING new indeed. :rolleyes:

wow, that's innovative. they can't even give us a i3??? if you're happy with substandard upgrades, then you should be excited.

miknos
Apr 13, 2010, 08:01 AM
Guys, just go to the updated website:

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

smiddlehurst
Apr 13, 2010, 08:02 AM
Exactly - what a rip off. Even when the xrate is ***** at $1.5=£1 instead of $2=£1 like a year or so ago - they still rip us off with an xrate of $1.2=£1 - what a total rip off. OK, if you import from the US you have 10% duty and 17.5% tax to pay but I assume there's sales tax in the US anyway

Rip off - a $2000 MBP should be £1400 max in the UK

Guh, every time, every bloody time Apple launch a new product someone cocks this calculation up and bitches about it. US prices do NOT include sales tax, UK's do. Using the base macbook as an example:

UK Price - £999.99
UK Price without VAT - £851.06
UK price in Dollars at current exchange rate of 0.6483 - $1,312.74
US Price - $1,199.00
Difference - $113.74

That difference has to cover any additional taxes that get paid to the UK government, higher transport cost, additional costs from lower volume of devices (UK localisation costs) and also absorb any short term changes in the interest rate. It's actually pretty damn close to where it should be when everything's taken into account so if you want to blame anyone blame our lovely money-grubbing government.

braintumor
Apr 13, 2010, 08:02 AM
Nothing much has changed to be honest!

I think this update is primarily aimed at the potential gamers, because the most significant change is the GPU. The CPU upgrade will 'only' give you an improvement of about 10%... So anybody who has a MBP (2009 spec) and not using it for games shouldn't be to upset because the real world performance difference isn't too much...

BTW... I think the exchange rates apple are using are ridiculous! Compare the 17" MBP US price with the Euro price:

US: $ 2299
EU: € 2249

They must be joking!

troller
Apr 13, 2010, 08:03 AM
I still have my 2008 unibody 13" macbook, C2D 2.4 with 4GB ram.

Today's 13" "update" gives me no reason to update either, totally razzed off!

Same here, I see no reason to update my 2008 13"

hisboyelroy
Apr 13, 2010, 08:03 AM
So, I too am a fool who sold my 13" MBP about six weeks ago and have been doing without, only to find a disappointing refresh, if you can even call it that, to the new 13". I think I have learned my lesson about managing expectations when it comes to Apple refreshing their products. I want my old 13" back.

theLimit
Apr 13, 2010, 08:04 AM
Oh, well. My wallet will remain closed.

I like the new GPU and longer lasting battery on the 13", but it still has C2D and is therefore still overpriced.

Bring on the Air updates within the next two weeks!

AdamA9
Apr 13, 2010, 08:05 AM
Well played Apple.

Still, with all the complaining, people wont turn their backs on Apple. :rolleyes:

I'm glad I waited for this, but it just re-affirms my decision to wait for an iPad (depending on price) or get a windows laptop.

I can see UK owners getting shafted on iPad prices now given what we have seen today, and that my friends is a right pisser!

DipDog3
Apr 13, 2010, 08:05 AM
10 Hour Battery?

Really?

macnerd93
Apr 13, 2010, 08:05 AM
I think they'll upgrade them to i3/i5's :D

I can't imagine them keeping C2D'd in them!


Looks like i was right :D they are C2D, thanks to my sources :D

JeromeOD
Apr 13, 2010, 08:05 AM
Back UP YEAHHHHH

15" i7 here I come!!!! Eek - how much! £1800 FFS!

Same one in the US is $2200 - what a rip off! With exchange rate at $1.5/£1 (which is crap anyway) it should only be £1400

Why do we get ripped off

Jeez, when are people EVER going to learn that UK prices include VAT and the US prices DO NOT include sales tax? The difference is less than £100 when you take taxes into consideration.

BeachChair
Apr 13, 2010, 08:06 AM
Sorry, I just figured that telling you it was the same card that was in the previous 15" and 17" models was enough. It's a significant step up for the 13".

As for the 330m, well... It's a step up, but not a significant one from the 9600m. It's basically a rebadged 9700m GT.

But, honestly, with nVidia's mobile GPU lineup right now, there's not a whole lot of options.

Alright thanks.

wotanub
Apr 13, 2010, 08:06 AM
So... Anyone else getting a Vaio Z?

Porkypimp
Apr 13, 2010, 08:06 AM
The new Intel Core i5 and Core i7 processors boost performance up to 50 percent over the previous generation. Based on Intel’s latest 32-nanometer process technology, these are the fastest dual-core processors available and they set an all-new benchmark for Mac notebooks.

jragosta
Apr 13, 2010, 08:06 AM
Nothing much has changed to be honest!

I think this update is primarily aimed at the potential gamers, because the most significant change is the GPU. The CPU upgrade will 'only' give you an improvement of about 10%... So anybody who has a MBP (2009 spec) and not using it for games shouldn't be to upset because the real world performance difference isn't too much...

BTW... I think the exchange rates apple are using are ridiculous! Compare the 17" MBP US price with the Euro price:

US: $ 2299
EU: € 2249

They must be joking!

Once again, the EU price includes VAT while the US price does not. IIRC, that's 17% in most EU countries.

Add in the extra costs for localization, shipping, support, and all the paternalistic EU laws that affect Apple and it's not that far out of line.

dwd3885
Apr 13, 2010, 08:06 AM
glad i decided to keep my imac and get the ipad. this would have been major dissappointment.

tooz
Apr 13, 2010, 08:07 AM
Could it be that the 13" had to stay with the C2D because this way they can use Nvidia's chipsets, whereas they couldn't with the i3/i5/i7 ?

oceptis
Apr 13, 2010, 08:08 AM
I personally am glad that I waited...even for the 13. Faster gpu, faster cpu, and larger hard drive standard. Longer battery life is a plus.... basically a better computer. An i5 would've been nice, but I can deal ;)

I'll probably settle, but I'll be stuck with it for years. I don't buy new computers very often.

BeachChair
Apr 13, 2010, 08:08 AM
Jeez, when are people EVER going to learn that UK prices include VAT and the US prices DO NOT include sales tax? The difference is less than £100 when you take taxes into consideration.

Actually the difference is like 240 dollars or 160 pounds if you assume a US sales tax of 8%.

Edit: Nevermind, I see now that by taking into consideration you mean removing

KnightWRX
Apr 13, 2010, 08:09 AM
wow, that's innovative. they can't even give us a i3??? if you're happy with substandard upgrades, then you should be excited.

You never said innovative, you said NOTHING new. That is wrong. Not to mention the longer lasting battery.

What were you expecting anyway ? A silent innovative upgrade ? This is basically what this update was supposed to be, bar the C2D in the 13".

And no, I'm not excited since I'm not in the market anymore.

inertiat
Apr 13, 2010, 08:10 AM
Seems a mixed update for many people.

First, the :(

C2D on 13" :(
No USB 3 :(
No 1024MB video RAM :(
No HDMI :(
No Blu-Ray :(
£150 for anti-gloss screen :(
High-resolution screens a pricey option :(
Still no PCI slot on the 15" :(
SSDs still super expensive :(

Then, the :)

i5s and i7s in 15" and 17" :)
Longer battery life :)
Better GPUs :)
Auto-switch between discreet and integrated GPUs :)
Larger HDD as standard :)
More RAM as standard :)

When does everyone reckon the next update will be? ;)

JeromeOD
Apr 13, 2010, 08:11 AM
Actually the difference is like 240 dollars or 160 pounds if you assume a US sales tax of 8%.

depends on the model doesn't it, but in a sliding scale way, it starts at less than £100 and goes up, but not by a lot. It's certainly not the £400 the original poster is making the usual mistake about.

Thunderhawks
Apr 13, 2010, 08:11 AM
Except bigger hard drives, more RAM and a new GPU. Yeah, NOTHING new indeed. :rolleyes:

Haha,

Yes, totally disappointing and why then do it at all?

Looks like Apple just caved in to pressure and threw some meat at the starving masses.

Now we need to start new posts about when the next update is due and what should be in it.

Wait , I think we did that already! :-)

aibo82
Apr 13, 2010, 08:12 AM
The 13" is a joke Sony have just release a 13" Z series with an Core 2.66 i7 500gb and 4GB DDR3 330GT and 1080p with 3g WAN for £1800 what gives with apple surely a i7 in a 13" SONY CAN!?

SimonTheSoundMa
Apr 13, 2010, 08:12 AM
Once again, the EU price includes VAT while the US price does not. IIRC, that's 17% in most EU countries.

Unlike Adobe where they stick a £ in front instead of a $.

Photoshop £600, or $600 in the USA. Comes out to be ~$1,000 when converted today (with the crappy pound), $400 more expensive.

MorphingDragon
Apr 13, 2010, 08:12 AM
Seems a mixed update for many people.

First, the :(

C2D on 13" :(
No USB 3 :(
No 1024MB video RAM :(
No HDMI :(
No Blu-Ray :(
£150 for anti-gloss screen :(
High-resolution screens a pricey option :(
Still no PCI slot on the 15" :(
SSDs still super expensive :(

Then, the :)

i5s and i7s in 15" and 17" :)
Longer battery life :)
Better GPUs :)
Auto-switch between discreet and integrated GPUs :)
Larger HDD as standard :)
More RAM as standard :)

When does everyone reckon the next update will be? ;)

There isnt much of a performance gap between Core2 and i3 and USB3 is still on the very high end motherboards.

Aleidfse
Apr 13, 2010, 08:13 AM
for the 15' should i get the wide screen or upgrade to HD glossy or HD antiglare and why

thanks

billchase2
Apr 13, 2010, 08:14 AM
Hmmm... interesting.

I keep reconsidering replacing my old Powerbook with something new, but since I have a MBP for work, there hasn't been the need. This update doesn't impress me enough to justify spending the money either.

Perhaps I'll just pick up a Mac Mini one of these days instead. Those suckers are great for the price.

Cerebral
Apr 13, 2010, 08:15 AM
Anyone still considering the 13"....im 50/50

MorphingDragon
Apr 13, 2010, 08:15 AM
The 13" is a joke Sony have just release a 13" Z series with an Core 2.66 i7 500gb and 4GB DDR3 330GT and 1080p with 3g WAN for £1800 what gives with apple surely a i7 in a 13" SONY CAN!?

Minus a couple hours battery life, and I havent checked but LED backlighting.

SimonTheSoundMa
Apr 13, 2010, 08:16 AM
for the 15' should i get the wide screen or upgrade to HD glossy or HD antiglare and why

thanks

Get what you can afford!

Aleidfse
Apr 13, 2010, 08:18 AM
Get what you can afford!

assume money isnt an issue (im welling to pay the difference if it's worth it)

Hog
Apr 13, 2010, 08:20 AM
Anyone still considering the 13"....im 50/50

ha, nope... I already have a 2.5 core 2 mbp with 4 gig of ram ( which is going on 2 and a half years old)... I don't really care about what graphics card it has.... So it's not really worth it to me. I would if they had an i5 or i7 :)

hisboyelroy
Apr 13, 2010, 08:20 AM
I noticed there aren't any 13" MBPs in Apple's refurb store at the moment, but plenty of 15" and 17" though. Do you think they realize there is not much difference between the current generation and the last generation and decided to bury the old ones so as not to make that point too obvious?

askipper
Apr 13, 2010, 08:23 AM
Guh, every time, every bloody time Apple launch a new product someone cocks this calculation up and bitches about it. US prices do NOT include sales tax, UK's do. Using the base macbook as an example:

UK Price - £999.99
UK Price without VAT - £851.06
UK price in Dollars at current exchange rate of 0.6483 - $1,312.74
US Price - $1,199.00
Difference - $113.74

That difference has to cover any additional taxes that get paid to the UK government, higher transport cost, additional costs from lower volume of devices (UK localisation costs) and also absorb any short term changes in the interest rate. It's actually pretty damn close to where it should be when everything's taken into account so if you want to blame anyone blame our lovely money-grubbing government.

I understand what you say and damn right I'm bitching about it - especially since the xrate is so ***** compared to what it was 12/18 months ago when it was nearly $2 to the £1

And you are right when compared to importing individually from the US for the base model 13" but let's take the 15 inch mid range - not much in that either!

$2000 base price from US and £1650 from the UK (£1400 ex VAT)
You'll get £1.52/$1 rate right now on a credit card so cost is £1315
Add 0% Duty = that's right- NO Duty on consumer electronics from US to UK
Add 17.5% VAT £230
Add Int Shipping from a mate in the US say £60 inc insurance
Total cost to import from the US = £1600

So, yes, you are right - £50 in it at most and then you don't get apple care etc in the UK for a US based purchase

So, yes - I do blame our money grabbing government!

Still, let me rant ;-)

Flackhead
Apr 13, 2010, 08:23 AM
I personally am glad that I waited...even for the 13. Faster gpu, faster cpu, and larger hard drive standard. Longer battery life is a plus.... basically a better computer. An i5 would've been nice, but I can deal ;)

True words, ive just orderd my 13 inch MBP. I've been waiting for 3 months and I had hoped a major update, but they are after all updated:)

I'm glad battery updates, it is a great help for students at the school, like me:)

Anyway, i3 vs. C2D = well, if apple can make a better mac with an C2D instead of i3, its okay, the performance difference is low.
Would you like an 2.0 i3 or an 2.4 C2D?

andymodem
Apr 13, 2010, 08:26 AM
Was hoping for quad core, but they are all dual-core. :(

ditzy
Apr 13, 2010, 08:26 AM
Sometime at the end of last year, someone asked when the minis will be iX. My answer was after 13 inch MBP, but said that I didn't expect that to happen for the 13 inch until the generation after this one. However this update took so long, that I had decided that I must have been wrong. There would be no way after all this time that they would just increase the clock speed on the 13. Instead I find that I have never been so sad to be proven right. They say that the pessimist is never disappointed, well I'm a pessimist and I am disappointed.

askipper
Apr 13, 2010, 08:26 AM
Jeez, when are people EVER going to learn that UK prices include VAT and the US prices DO NOT include sales tax? The difference is less than £100 when you take taxes into consideration.

Oh shut up! I forgot about US sales tax and anyway - if you purchase in certain states there is no sales tax - and even when not, it's not 17.5% like our crappy country charges. I know you're right but I still don't like the prices!

Steve121178
Apr 13, 2010, 08:29 AM
So... Anyone else getting a Vaio Z?

Strongly recommended... ;)

Ironduke
Apr 13, 2010, 08:36 AM
I still have my 2008 unibody 13" macbook, C2D 2.4 with 4GB ram.

Today's 13" "update" gives me no reason to update either, totally razzed off!

And still no UK iPad pricing!!!


arrrrrrrrgh!:mad::mad::mad::mad::apple:

It looks like the 320m is alot better but?

Soks
Apr 13, 2010, 08:46 AM
First post - just registered yesterday.

It's been about 4 months since I decided to take a leap and jump n the Mac bandwagon, and now the new models are finally out. Yay!

I've decided to get the middle 15 inch model with the widescreen display.

For those interrested in knowing the base price of that model is in Denmark (ie. without the widescreen) for exchange rate comparison, it's $2737.

Luckily I've made a deal with my boss though, so I won't have to pay more than 40% of that. :D ...otherwise I wouldn't pay that kind of money for a laptop...not even an Apple one.

ECUpirate44
Apr 13, 2010, 08:52 AM
For anyone who has already bought the new mbp. Can you tell me what your delivery date is? I'm flying out on wendesday and I would like to have it with me. But if delivery dates are on the 21 or later I have to wait till I get home to order :/

braintumor
Apr 13, 2010, 09:08 AM
Once again, the EU price includes VAT while the US price does not. IIRC, that's 17% in most EU countries.

Add in the extra costs for localization, shipping, support, and all the paternalistic EU laws that affect Apple and it's not that far out of line.

OK, i show you the difference:

US price (without VAT) = $2299
in Euro => € 1693
adding European VAT 19% => € 2015
official apple price (with 19% VAT) = € 2249

Difference = € 234
Difference in US$ = $318

That's a 10% higher price for European customors, compared to US customers... Thats a lot! Who don't wanna save $300+ ???

By the way, there are no more extra costs! Shipping is the same for the US products, the MBP's sold in the US also come from China and need to be shipped! Support? There is no difference either and which "paternalistic EU laws" are you talking about that make products sold in the EU 10% more expensive???

If it was that way, it would be the same with all electronic goods manufactured in asia, but thats not the case!

SimonTheSoundMa
Apr 13, 2010, 09:12 AM
Difference = € 234
Difference in US$ = $318

That's a 10% higher price for European customors, compared to US customers... Thats a lot! Who don't wanna save $300+ ???

Euro is about to crash, so it might get even worse.

co80126
Apr 13, 2010, 09:21 AM
So I bought a New macbook pro last week, 15 inch, 8 gb, 3.06hz and after i recieved it the box broke and out flies my new computer onto the ground and cracks. I called apple and they are replacing it with a new macbook pro with these configurations.....

Configuration

2.66GHz Intel Core i7
8GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 15-inch Hi-Res Glossy Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide
Microsoft Office Mac 2008 - Home and Student Edition
Aperture preinstalled
Final Cut Express preinstalled
Bento 3 by FileMaker preinstalled
Accessory kit

braintumor
Apr 13, 2010, 09:27 AM
Euro is about to crash, so it might get even worse.

What does that have to do with the current exchange rate? If apple was smart they could hedge currencies, so that abrupt forex changes wouldn't effect them short-term (6-12 months)...

Apple should be more worried about a soon to come reevaluation of the Yuan, because that will make ALL products built in China more expensive for EVERYBODY!

co80126
Apr 13, 2010, 09:30 AM
For anyone who has already bought the new mbp. Can you tell me what your delivery date is? I'm flying out on wendesday and I would like to have it with me. But if delivery dates are on the 21 or later I have to wait till I get home to order :/

i just bought mine and it says the 16th to the 22nd, i got the 2-3 day delivery(18.00) and it was custom config

co80126
Apr 13, 2010, 09:31 AM
which is better? 2.66ghz core i7 or a 3.06 hz c2d?

gtokidd
Apr 13, 2010, 09:38 AM
Do the stores have them yet?

jbl
Apr 13, 2010, 09:43 AM
Looks like apple failed at including the i5 and i7 on the 13"

This is quite funny.

Also, some people seem to think that this i7 is quad core... it's not.

BillyBobBongo
Apr 13, 2010, 09:44 AM
Euro is about to crash, so it might get even worse.

My Dad's been saying that since the beginning of the year...and when he comes to visit me in Holland he whines that it hasn't.

He'll be here again in a few weeks...I'm still expecting whining! ;)

johnnymg
Apr 13, 2010, 10:13 AM
Looks like apple failed at including the i5 and i7 on the 13"

This is quite funny.

Also, some people seem to think that this i7 is quad core... it's not.

Looks like you failed at marketing 101.

Nexcin
Apr 13, 2010, 10:16 AM
Seems a mixed update for many people.

First, the :(

C2D on 13" :(
No USB 3 :(
No 1024MB video RAM :(
No HDMI :(
No Blu-Ray :(
£150 for anti-gloss screen :(
High-resolution screens a pricey option :(
Still no PCI slot on the 15" :(
SSDs still super expensive :(

Then, the :)

i5s and i7s in 15" and 17" :)
Longer battery life :)
Better GPUs :)
Auto-switch between discreet and integrated GPUs :)
Larger HDD as standard :)
More RAM as standard :)

When does everyone reckon the next update will be? ;)

I admit that I'm also dissapointed in the Duo Core still in 13" models. But as you write, you cant satisfy everyone and it will always be you win some you loose some.

The new 15" lineup is sweet, but im sad since i planned the 13" + an Apple Cinema Display.

johnnymg
Apr 13, 2010, 10:19 AM
I admit that I'm also dissapointed in the Duo Core still in 13" models. But as you write, you cant satisfy everyone and it will always be you win some you loose some.

The new 15" lineup is sweet, but im sad since i planned the 13" + an Apple Cinema Display.

The 13" base model gets (1) increased bat life, (2) increase in memory to 4GB, (3) a step up in processor speed, and (4) ambient light controlled backlit keyboard! This is a VERY nice upgrade for the SAME price as the "old" model.

This should be a VERY capable little road warrior.

cheers
JohnG

runeasgar
Apr 13, 2010, 10:23 AM
default 2.4GHz i5 with BTO HR glossy display.

should have it late this week or early next week :)

edit: upgrading from 2.4GHz C2D (pre-unibody).

diamond.g
Apr 13, 2010, 11:19 AM
For all those that are saying the GT330 and 320 are just 9700 and 9600 rebadged, you are wrong. As it supports DX10.1 which isn't possible on the G9x cores. These are G200 based.

Overall the updgrades are good, not too happy about the price increase though :(.

Not surprised about the 13" C2D as Apple probably couldn't deal with the thermal requirements of two GPU's in such a small chassis. Notice the 320M is integrated not discrete. All the other models have Intel HD as integrated and the 330M for discrete with dynamic switching between the two.

AlmostThere
Apr 13, 2010, 01:02 PM
Apple should be more worried about a soon to come reevaluation of the Yuan, because that will make ALL products built in China more expensive for EVERYBODY!

With Apple, you get what you pay for. If the prices go up as you suggest, I think most people will still be happy in the knowledge that they are getting a proportionally better computer.