Who do you love?

[MacBytes]

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Link: Who do you love? (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040920151543)
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[zelmo]

"But the survey only measured loyalty among corporate information technology decision makers, not average consumers. "IT departments appreciate Microsoft more than individual users," said Phillip Bounsall, executive vice president for Walker Information."

I'll pass this one along to my IT department next time they are running around frantically loading virus definitions and patches on all the Windoze boxes, while I sit calmly at my Mac.

:rolleyes:

[2GMario]

when you start running polls on what company's people "love", you know the world has changed. i love my girl friend, i enjoy using my mac.

either way, in my opinion, this is a dumb poll.

most IT departements are usually il informed. theres a reason u see 2 different job positions, "programmer" and "manager". the programmer who knows what language best to write a piece of software in, usually doesnt have the power to make that decision, and the manager that does couldnt tell you the difference between vc++ and vb.

people hear a popular brand name, and without thinking twice, think they were sent from god and push the company in that direction without opening thier eyes and see what else is out there.

the article points it out exactly. a: apple isnt on the list, thats a given in corporate IT. b: u see intel and not amd c: in my opinion, mysql is a much better system than oracle

just my view

-Mario

[Bob Knob]

"IT departments appreciate Microsoft more than individual users," said Phillip Bounsall, executive vice president for Walker Information."

Of course IT loves MS, it means job security.
One my sisters has a business that switched to all OSX almost two years ago, since then they have let both full-time IT guys go. She's lowered her overhead enough that she's thinking about expanding the business. It was like a drug addiction, the IT guys were needed to keep the system going, the IT guys were firmly against the switch and spoke of never-ending problems if she made the switch... Funny thing is that when she made the switch her problems ended, and so did the IT guys.

[wdlove]

I guess that the title was to get attention to the story, it worked with me. They used the proper word in the story though, loyalty.

I friend that started with Apple, but because of a job he chose Windows IT.

[zelmo]

"IT departments appreciate Microsoft more than individual users," said Phillip Bounsall, executive vice president for Walker Information."

Of course IT loves MS, it means job security.
One my sisters has a business that switched to all OSX almost two years ago, since then they have let both full-time IT guys go. She's lowered her overhead enough that she's thinking about expanding the business. It was like a drug addiction, the IT guys were needed to keep the system going, the IT guys were firmly against the switch and spoke of never-ending problems if she made the switch... Funny thing is that when she made the switch her problems ended, and so did the IT guys.

I guess we have a fairly unique situation here at work (commercial printing plant). We basically have one F/T IT guy, who is responsible for 25 Macs, around 60 PC's, and a half dozen WIN '03 servers. He also happens to be very familiar with Macs, since he also worked in our electronic prepress department on a Mac for about 5 years. I know he would love to switch all over to Mac. With sole responsibility for 90 computers (plus other things), job security isn't very high on his list of things to worry about.

[paulypants]

Indeed. Using Microsoft solutions = job security.
There will always be a myriad of Microsoft problems
to keep IT people busy...and employed. An Apple
solution would reduce IT headcount considerably.
How funny the world works. The best soltuions for
a company won't be utilized because it wouldn't be the
best solution, career wise, for those making the decisions.
Too much power in the wrong hands...

[ntg]

I guess we have a fairly unique situation here at work (commercial printing plant). We basically have one F/T IT guy, who is responsible for 25 Macs, around 60 PC's, and a half dozen WIN '03 servers. He also happens to be very familiar with Macs, since he also worked in our electronic prepress department on a Mac for about 5 years. I know he would love to switch all over to Mac. With sole responsibility for 90 computers (plus other things), job security isn't very high on his list of things to worry about.

I'm a Network Manager for a Law Firm in Northamptonshire in the UK.

I'm responsible for about 150 PCs and about a dozen servers, including exchange servers. We have a PC-only network, and run a customised legal application which integrates with MS Office.

However, it is a windows-only install and therefore we cannot use macs. If VirtualPC was any good, or indeed any other piece of software, then I would try to introduce macs, but as it is I am stuck. A version written in Java would press the right buttons too, but it is just too slow and flaky at present.

I do, however, take in my new 15"pb every day, and it does everything for me as a network manager. I connect to the exchange servers, administer the servers with the OSX port of VNC (something we use on all desktops and servers anyway) and also digitally edit video footage & manipulate photos, etc. for legal cases, something our PCs are rubbish at (I cannot get a consistent firewire connection on any of them!)

I have been involved in computers since the seventies, and have worked with mixed Apple, Windows, Novell and Solaris (NIS) networks. As a Solaris Admin, I much prefer to use an apple, especially since OSX.

I hope Apple over here start to advertise in the mainstream after the opening of the Regent Street store, and more so after Birmingham opens (and then Manchester...)

I have used Apples since a II+ in the early 80s (I now have about seventeen of various types) and I'm fairly sure I have spent more of my time advertising Apple in the UK than they have themselves.

I hope they finally start to get the message that people will use them if they know about them.

Nigel Goodey
Network Manager
Franklins Solicitors LLP

[shamino]

I'll pass this one along to my IT department next time they are running around frantically loading virus definitions and patches on all the Windoze boxes, while I sit calmly at my Mac.
And that is precisely why IT departments prefer Windows.

The much higher support costs (patches, system corruption, virusses, etc.) means corporations have to hire more IT staff in order to keep it all working.

IT managers are looking out for their own jobs. If the company would suddenly switch to something that needs no maintenance, they'd all be without jobs.

[shamino]

How funny the world works. The best soltuions for a company won't be utilized because it wouldn't be the best solution, career wise, for those making the decisions.
Too much power in the wrong hands...
I learned all about this in a management class. It's called suboptimization - when a person or group starts working to benefit himself/itself to the detriment of the corporation as a whole.

This is a very real problem, and it's very difficult to fix, because the higher-level managers/executives that can take action usually don't have the specialized knowledge and experience to be able to challenge their subordinates' decisions.