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WindowsTraitor
Apr 14, 2010, 08:07 PM
I ordered my imac last tuesaday and is still not here. This is a fragile piece of equipment and it has been traveling for a week already. I fear that may of the damages reported happen because of shipping.

I would like to return it and buy one at the apple store. How long does it take to get a refund? Which carrier do I use to ship it back?



IndustrialSpace
Apr 14, 2010, 08:20 PM
Maybe someone is gingerly hand-carrying it over to your apartment, Dude. Be glad. It's a long walk from Shanghai! ;)

mystikjoe
Apr 14, 2010, 08:20 PM
I ordered my imac last tuesaday and is still not here. This is a fragile piece of equipment and it has been traveling for a week already. I fear that may of the damages reported happen because of shipping.

I would like to return it and buy one at the apple store. How long does it take to get a refund? Which carrier do I use to ship it back?

it's coming from china not down the street. did you pay for upgraded shipping? also you haven't even received or opened your product. stop acting like a child and be glad you are one of the lucky ones that can afford an imac! :)

WindowsTraitor
Apr 14, 2010, 08:32 PM
it's coming from china not down the street. did you pay for upgraded shipping? also you haven't even received or opened your product. stop acting like a child and be glad you are one of the lucky ones that can afford an imac! :)

Since I can afford it I expect a better service. I do not want to open the box either. I just want to send it back. I would not want to deal with a broken computer etc. Plus I want the i7.

They should make the computers in the USA so more people could afford it too by having jobs here.

unixfool
Apr 14, 2010, 09:02 PM
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WTF. :eek: This is the worst reason for a return that I've ever seen... :mad:

Someone else will pay the cost for your OCD return. Just wait and open the dang box...just because its taking awhile to ship doesn't mean you'll be receiving damaged goods. You aren't the only one that paid for an iMac...you're not entitled to something that the others may not have received. And, Apple doesn't do the shipping...they have other companies deal with that. Complain to the shipper...good luck with that, BTW.

I hope they charge you a restocking fee, just to be anuses.

jessica.
Apr 14, 2010, 09:05 PM
Last Tuesday as in 4/6 or are you talking about 4/13? If it's 4/6 then still it's not even enough time. What did you order? This sounds to me like you wanted an i5, you ordered it, and now you're looking for any reason to return so you can buy the i7. You don't need to do that. They'll happily take your **** back and let you upgrade. Don't open the box when it gets there.

StarTzar
Apr 14, 2010, 09:09 PM
They should make the computers in the USA so more people could afford it too by having jobs here.

If Apple could find "dollar a day" labor in the USA, they would have them assembled here.

mac88
Apr 14, 2010, 09:12 PM
I ordered my imac last tuesaday and is still not here. This is a fragile piece of equipment and it has been traveling for a week already. I fear that may of the damages reported happen because of shipping.

I would like to return it and buy one at the apple store. How long does it take to get a refund? Which carrier do I use to ship it back?

Just don't open the box and send it back for a return. Good luck! :D

hamlinspahn
Apr 14, 2010, 09:27 PM
If Apple could find "dollar a day" labor in the USA, they would have them assembled here.

The same is true for all of them HP, DELL, and (insert brand here).

outphase
Apr 14, 2010, 09:36 PM
Since I can afford it I expect a better service. I do not want to open the box either. I just want to send it back. I would not want to deal with a broken computer etc. Plus I want the i7.

They should make the computers in the USA so more people could afford it too by having jobs here.

So you want to return your "late" computer to order a custom-built one that still has to be shipped from overseas? I'm sure you thought that one through 100%.

StarTzar
Apr 14, 2010, 09:51 PM
The same is true for all of them HP, DELL, and (insert brand here).

You're absolutely right... and they probably all use the same sweat shops.

OrangeSVTguy
Apr 14, 2010, 10:14 PM
If everything wasn't outsourced, then we just might have a middle-class again that can afford such items.

Was this a BTO iMac? That adds a shipping delay and once you do get it, you won't be able to return it anyways since it's Build-to-Order Mac.

splashnader
Apr 14, 2010, 10:36 PM
So you want to return your "late" computer to order a custom-built one that still has to be shipped from overseas? I'm sure you thought that one through 100%.

LOL. He/she is going to be waiting even longer for his i7 to arrive than his original purchase. :D

Doesn't Apple wait till you have returned the first one, before they ship the second one.

MacHamster68
Apr 15, 2010, 03:16 AM
your iMac is shipped from china not by plane , its in a container with a couple other iMac's , and that container is on a containership , and containerships are no speedboats , and there is a bit of a distance between china and usa and i assure you its more then the couple inches on the map :D

most products you buy today are actually made from parts from china and other asian country's and all these products are made in china /asia for a reason and the reason is so you who has a job can afford them
and "made in usa" never really stood for high quality, that was the label "made in germany" which stood for high quality ,and i said "was" :rolleyes:

yayitsezekiel
Apr 15, 2010, 03:22 AM
Sorry bro but this has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read...period.

It took my MBP ~1.5 weeks to ship. Patience man ;)

SaSaSushi
Apr 15, 2010, 03:37 AM
They should make the computers in the USA so more people could afford it too by having jobs here.

Yeah, that's not too elitist, because everyone reading these forums is in the USA, right? Or, if not, they don't count anyway. :p

With the economy booming in China, Mac sales there are brisk these days. ;) I just read on AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/22/material_market_gains_expected_from_apples_25_new_china_stores.html) that Apple plans on opening 25 new Apple stores in China.

But as you've seen you'll always find a few fellow xenophobes in here, so don't worry. (I'm American by the way. I just live in Japan.).

Apple offers equal service to all customers, not just those with a high income. Not to mention, anyone else who is a Mac owner could "afford to buy one" so I'm not sure what your bragging is all about.

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 05:40 AM
1- You can now get the i7 at the apple store. So no need for waiting. I understand that this is a fedex issue, but since there are so many complains, apple should look into this as they are the ones responsible for the goods untill I get them(I have not seen anywhere that this is shipped Ex-works)

2-If you are running a business, a one day delay can cost you $$$. Mine is for personal use so that is not the case. Nevertheless when I order something, and I pay for it, I expect that everything works according to my expectations. Everytime I order from Amazon, or Costco, the shipping says 7-10 days, but for some reason I always get the goods after 10 days.

3-They have a return policy. If I am not satisfied, I can return it. The issue is that it takes 10 days to get the item, another 10 days to send it back, and another 10 days to get the refund. To me that is not customer friendly. To me that is like buying one of those B&S shops.

4- I am not xenophobe and this was not a xenophobe comment. My point is that the more jobs we loose less people will able to afford things, while prices will still go up, due to a deprecating dollar. I have lived this before I have seen in other countries I have lived in. I do not want this to happen to the USA, but if we keep importing more than exporting, if we keep closing manufacturing sites, if we keep outsourcing services. if we keep constraining foreign tourism, we will end up just like any other country that has had hyper inflation etc. Foreign students are not coming here anymore as they used to. Top American executives are being sent to China, so not only we are loosing muscle power, we are also loosing brain power.

5-Things used to work in this country because people complained. By reading some the comments in here, it looks that we have become a herd of sheep all heading down a cliff. People saying "oh I have yellow tint on my 2k computer, but it is ok, because it is apple" F. that should my computer have that, I will be flying to the infinite loop and they will hear my infinite complain.

Bennieboyİ
Apr 15, 2010, 05:44 AM
if your unhappy with the wait, you could try an actual apple store, or ebay? or craigslist? or i dont know lol good things come to those who are patient ;)

auero
Apr 15, 2010, 05:45 AM
The shipping/fedex is not causing the issues with the iMacs. That's just crazy. How do you think apple stores get them? Via fedex/ups.

spcdust
Apr 15, 2010, 06:06 AM
This has got to be the stupidest post I have read in a long time.

Your logic is that you want to return it unchecked because it may possibly be damaged due to the length of time it's taken to get to you? What date did you place the order, what date did it actually ship to you. Just have some patience and if it's the configuration you want open the box and check it out - if it's broken (unlikely) send back for a refund, if it's okay then enjoy it. Also, the iMacs in the store have also been shipped from China, what are you going to do, ask that they pull a box from the centre of the freight pallet?

Actually why am I dignifying this ridiculous post (and subsequent ones by yourself) - I think most of us must have felt like this when we read the question.:confused::rolleyes::confused::rolleyes::confused::rolleyes::confused::rolleyes:

DdMac679
Apr 15, 2010, 06:11 AM
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what the hell is wrong?

I can tell you what's wrong. You live in a fairy tale with unrealistic expectations. I can see the phone call now to Apple.

Caller: Hello Apple
Apple: How can I help you?
Caller: Yeah, I ordered an iMac and I want to return it.
Apple: What seems to be the problem?
Caller: Well I waited 2 weeks to for it arrive and I think it may be damaged?
Apple: What type of damage do you think it received?
Caller: I'm not sure.
Apple: What do you mean sir?
Caller: Well it is still turned off, sealed in its shipping package, and sitting by the front door?
Apple: Was the package damaged?
Caller: No, but I know that it's damaged because the extended shipping of consumer iMacs is causing all the problems to the recent i7 series. Plus I really wanted an i7 and didn't display any kind patience to wait for it.

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 06:21 AM
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I can tell you what's wrong. You live in a fairy tale with unrealistic expectations. I can see the phone call now to Apple.


Caller: Hello Apple
Apple: How can I help you?
Caller: Yeah, I ordered an iMac and I want to return it.
Apple: What seems to be the problem?
Caller: Well I waited 2 weeks to for it arrive and I think it may be damaged?
Apple: What type of damage do you think it received?
Caller: I'm not sure.
Apple: What do you mean sir?
Caller: Well it is still turned off, sealed in its shipping package, and sitting by the front door?
Apple: Was the package damaged?
Caller: No, but I know that it's damaged because the extended shipping of consumer iMacs is causing all the problems to the recent i7 series. Plus I really wanted an i7 and didn't display any kind patience to wait for it.


YOU MISSED THE BEST PART:

Apple: Sure Sir. Please return the sealed item to us. If you open it we will charge a restocking fee. As soon as we get the computer back, we will send you the refund.

spcdust
Apr 15, 2010, 06:40 AM
Caller: Hello Apple

YOU MISSED THE BEST PART:

Apple: Sure Sir. Please return the sealed item to us. If you open it we will charge a restocking fee. As soon as we get the computer back, we will send you the refund.


I'm confused????

If it's broken / faulty wether you've opened the box or not it's not an issue - you get a refund or replacement no matter.

If it's undamaged / no faults then it's a non issue as you've got what you ordered and all is well.

Have I missed something - are you wishing to change the configuration therefore looking for an excuse, thus avoiding a re-stocking fee, to return a potentially perfectly good iMac?

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 07:08 AM
I'm confused????

If it's broken / faulty wether you've opened the box or not it's not an issue - you get a refund or replacement no matter.

If it's undamaged / no faults then it's a non issue as you've got what you ordered and all is well.

Have I missed something - are you wishing to change the configuration therefore looking for an excuse, thus avoiding a re-stocking fee, to return a potentially perfectly good iMac?

The fact that I changed my mind is also associated to the fact that the shipping takes so long. Since I still have to pay taxes, and the shipment takes so long, I rather buy it at the apple store. So if I have an issue, I can just solve it there.

If I do not want to open the package because I will not use it. I am still going to buy an Imac, even pay more, so what is the problem with this?


I have the balls to say, I changed my mind, I made a mistake, and I want to fix it. Since I can fix it, there is no issue anymore.

Bennieboyİ
Apr 15, 2010, 07:10 AM
I have the balls to say, I changed my mind, I made a mistake, and I want to fix it. Since I can fix it, there is no issue anymore.

:rolleyes: why the thread then?

SaSaSushi
Apr 15, 2010, 07:15 AM
5-Things used to work in this country because people complained.

What country is this of which you speak? You are aware that these forums have a global membership, right?

Yeah, you're right, you're more elitist than xenophobe.

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 07:24 AM
:rolleyes: why the thread then?

you can close if you need to. I just got the answer this morning.

Bennieboyİ
Apr 15, 2010, 07:26 AM
you can close if you need to. I just got the answer this morning.

it's not for me to close the thread, and as for an answer, there is none, it's all about your personal choice, you decide at the end of day what you want, if your not happy with that choice, there isn't anyone else who can make it for you.

uniforms
Apr 15, 2010, 07:33 AM
Just goes to show you how "smart" we Americans are now. We want Apple to assemble product here so we can have a middle class. But if apple did the prices would be three times what they are. The would be few sales and Apple would be no longer. Why do you think Apple didn't do so well in the 80's? They could not compete with other product being so much less, even though Apple made a MUCH better machine than others. Just like they do today. So if you want to pay three times the cost, go ahead. Then Apple will be what they were. Wake up!!!!!! It's a global economy.

spcdust
Apr 15, 2010, 07:34 AM
The fact that I changed my mind is also associated to the fact that the shipping takes so long. Since I still have to pay taxes, and the shipment takes so long, I rather buy it at the apple store. So if I have an issue, I can just solve it there.

If I do not want to open the package because I will not use it. I am still going to buy an Imac, even pay more, so what is the problem with this?


I have the balls to say, I changed my mind, I made a mistake, and I want to fix it. Since I can fix it, there is no issue anymore.

Right, I must be being really dense here as I still don't get it. Have you changed your mind on the particular configuration you wish to order? If not then what I said still stands.

If you receive a "broken" iMac, wether you open the box makes no odds - you just send it back for a refund and once that's processed (could be a couple of weeks) then make your purchase at an Apple Store.

If you receive a perfectly good iMac then where's the problem?

End of the day it's your choice but I must have missed something as it makes no sense?

FOOTNOTE:
Ahhhh - I did miss something, you basically ordered an i5 and now have decided you want an i7 and are looking for some BS excuse to return it.

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 07:55 AM
FOOTNOTE:
Ahhhh - I did miss something, you basically ordered an i5 and now have decided you want an i7 and are looking for some BS excuse to return it.

Finally you got it.... But is not a BS excuse. The BS cam from fedex when I called them asking where is the package(Fedex website showed the delivery for yesterday), and them giving me some BS answer about some trailer bla bla in transit bla bla, friday delivery bla bla.

spinnerlys
Apr 15, 2010, 07:59 AM
Finally you got it.... But is not a BS excuse. The BS cam from fedex when I called them asking where is the package(Fedex website showed the delivery for yesterday), and them giving me some BS answer about some trailer bla bla in transit bla bla, friday delivery bla bla.

So in other words: If the iMac came earlier than it did, say two to three days after ordering it, there would be no need for the i7?

You changed your mind on what CPU you want, even the fastest delivery (C) wouldn't have changed that.

Or did all this waiting cause your cogs to rattle the whole time and thus came to the conclusion: faster processor, faster delivery?

SaSaSushi
Apr 15, 2010, 08:07 AM
Finally you got it.... But is not a BS excuse. The BS cam from fedex when I called them asking where is the package(Fedex website showed the delivery for yesterday), and them giving me some BS answer about some trailer bla bla in transit bla bla, friday delivery bla bla.

Sounds like your problem is with FedEx, not Apple.

Oh, and those are all Americans getting paid in American dollars that are screwing up your shipment and causing you unnecessary delays. Imagine that.

They would be doing the same thing from Cupertino if that was where you iMac was assembled.

spcdust
Apr 15, 2010, 08:09 AM
Finally you got it.... But is not a BS excuse. The BS cam from fedex when I called them asking where is the package(Fedex website showed the delivery for yesterday), and them giving me some BS answer about some trailer bla bla in transit bla bla, friday delivery bla bla.

Fair enough that you changed your mind regarding which processor you wanted but, as highlighted by spinnerlys your justification for returning the iMac is a BS excuse - the delivery time is irrelevant. Your change of heart is your decision and nothing to do with Apple, they have supplied what you ordered, but you wish to deflect your indecision and blame them.

Also, how do your parents feel about having to wait the two, possibly three, weeks weeks for the refund to appear on their Credit Card?

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 08:13 AM
So in other words: If the iMac came earlier than it did, say two to three days after ordering it, there would be no need for the i7?

You changed your mind on what CPU you want, even the fastest delivery (C) wouldn't have changed that.

Or did all this waiting cause your cogs to rattle the whole time and thus came to the conclusion: faster processor, faster delivery?

Basically, I would not have had the time to read reviews, benchmarks and so on :) again and again. Plus the i7 were not avail, at the apple store, but I was there 3 days ago, and they said that now they have them in stock.



Also, how do your parents feel about having to wait the two, possibly three, weeks weeks for the refund to appear on their Credit Card?

I actually sent them cash in an envelope with an offer they could not refuse.

Bennieboyİ
Apr 15, 2010, 08:25 AM
It is actually sent them cash in an envelope with an offer they could not refuse.

***** lol you cant order online with cash :confused::rolleyes:
the apple stores only take credit or debit cards

refunds are dealt the same, no one now is stupid enough to send thousands of pounds, dollars or w/e through the post :rolleyes:

spcdust
Apr 15, 2010, 08:30 AM
You know what, something tells me we're going to see a lot more post from you over the coming weeks as, even before you've taken delivery of your ordred iMac, you're already finding fault. Wait until you see the yellow tint back light bleeding screen:p:p

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 08:35 AM
You know what, something tells me we're going to see a lot more post from you over the coming weeks as, even before you've taken delivery of your ordred iMac, you're already finding fault. Wait until you see the yellow tint back light bleeding screen:p:p

hahhahahahahahha I have had nightmares about that already. YOu remember the kid from Sixt sense... I see yellow tint ahhahahhaah.

You will see me on the IPAD forums too.. I ordered the 3g version, and we still do not have a confirmed date.

Mystic385
Apr 15, 2010, 09:03 AM
You might as well send in the refund request for the iPad now. I'm betting it'll take too long to arrive and it's a fragile piece of equipment. lol.

As for the computer it seems to me what your saying is the 1Mac 27 is fragile gear and the longer it takes to ship the more risk of damage and that at some point that level of risk became too great and.... I'm guessing you're sitting there with not much to do but long for your computer and every second is killing you.

Remember grasshopper... patience is beauty. As opposed to patients which are a whole different other matter. Although a hole could be involved.

I've enjoyed reading this thread. I'd be real worried about that iPad though.

GregGebhardt
Apr 15, 2010, 09:35 AM
Plus I want the i7.

.

Well now we are getting the whole story.

Just remeber the units at the Apple Store had the same trip and shipper handling that your did. So yopu will have the same chances of shipping damage.

You really need to relax!:eek:

MacHamster68
Apr 15, 2010, 10:06 AM
i too would be more worried about that small tiny ipad which comes in a realy small box and as i work as a courier , i know exactly how small boxes get thrown around in the depots and some really throw things around there , see it every morning ...."where are my deliveries for the day "....."that pile over there in the corner"
and they really pile things up without any thought about placing heavy packets on small parcels , so it could well be someone is dumping a small fridge on top of your small ipad , now you got something to worry about ;)

vicliner
Apr 15, 2010, 10:55 AM
I ordered a base model, opened it. Everything worked fine. Changed my mind called Apple and asked (no harm in asking) if I could upgrade. The awesome Apple lady told me to package it up and she would order an I7 for me. Other than the wait, She seemed as excited as me to send me an I7 and take more of my money, which made me happy as well.

Paulywauly
Apr 15, 2010, 11:53 AM
most fragile electronic stuff you buy is shipped from China or some other country in a either a plane or a container on a ship in exactly the same way. Only difference here is that Apple are shipping it to the UK for you direct from china.

It may take longer than you would like which is fair, but remember, it isnt being bounced about in a warehouse or a shops stockroom till you buy it your getting straight from the source. so its less likely your fragile equipment is getting damaged

KevKaos
Apr 15, 2010, 12:25 PM
Plus I want the i7.




AHHHHHHH!!!!! The hammer just hit the head of the nail. Buyer remorse.

H00513R
Apr 15, 2010, 02:19 PM
At least look at the machine first...sheesh.

unixfool
Apr 15, 2010, 05:05 PM
Basically, I would not have had the time to read reviews, benchmarks and so on :) again and again. Plus the i7 were not avail, at the apple store, but I was there 3 days ago, and they said that now they have them in stock.

<face/palm>

WTF

1. You didn't do the proper research then you scapegoat Fedex/Apple because you didn't study up...

2. The i7 wasn't available at your local Apple Store, so you order, wait, get pissed, blame Fedex/Apple, plan to return, then find that 3 days ago, Apple now has them in stock.

Maybe you should've done proper research before your purchase.

Maybe you should've decided that it would be quicker still to wait until your local Apple Store had them in stock, rather the order a BTO system and think that you'd get that system in 2 days.

<face/palm>

W.T.F.

Bass Akwards, man...

unixfool
Apr 15, 2010, 05:07 PM
we still do not have a confirmed date.

You already planning to return that back because you don't have it yet?

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 07:16 PM
I hate to be right most of the times , I sincerely hate it.

So what the hell do I do now? What the hell is wrong?????????

mystikjoe
Apr 15, 2010, 07:20 PM
I hate to be right most of the times , I sincerely hate it.

So what the hell do I do now? What the hell is wrong?????????

by a pc you are not a mac person! :)

unixfool
Apr 15, 2010, 07:31 PM
I hate to be right most of the times , I sincerely hate it.

So what the hell do I do now? What the hell is wrong?????????

<sigh>

Return it like you planned...unopened. What's it matter to you what damage was done, since your plan was to return it unopened anyways...

by a pc you are not a mac person! :)

HAHAHA!

Ditto.

WindowsTraitor
Apr 15, 2010, 07:59 PM
by a pc you are not a mac person! :)

thank you for your compliment. If eating up **** means you are an apple person, then I am happy to be a non mac person.

ouimetnick
Apr 15, 2010, 08:20 PM
God must agree with you... get the i7

Mystic385
Apr 15, 2010, 08:39 PM
Wow, Windowstraitor, I was wrong. It is damaged. You must be like psychic or something. Can you please post up 6 numbers in the range 1 - 40 so I can go buy the winning lotto ticket. So that would be numbers that will win in tomorrows draw. Tomorrow is Saturday here. I know because it's friday 1.40 pm now.

Thank you.

That's a really good place to get a ding in the box as well. There is a giant block of foam there.

I'll never doubt you again.

I wouldn't open the box. We all know it'll be damaged based on your psychic accuracy so far. (1 for 1 or 100%)


Now think lotto numbers please and post them up. And a powerball number from 1-8. I'll post up the results of my winnings on Saturday night my time for you.

Thanks.

jaycee520
Apr 15, 2010, 08:59 PM
You know what, something tells me we're going to see a lot more post from you over the coming weeks as, even before you've taken delivery of your ordred iMac, you're already finding fault. Wait until you see the yellow tint back light bleeding screen:p:p

lol...thats a good one:D

spcdust
Apr 16, 2010, 04:17 AM
Just return it - it's irrelevant wether the box is damaged or not as you have been looking for a reason to return the computer anyway. Whist I myself would be some what perturbed to see such a hole in the iMacs box you do seem determined to just find fault no matter what - I mean you could just fire that iMac up and see how it is but you had already made your mind up even before it had been delivered. Looking at your picture I am surprised the white Apple box is so filthy as they usually get despatched in a brown outer cardboard box - did this also have a huge hole in it?

By the way, totally agree with unixfool comments, you didn't consider your purchase prior to purchasing and now are just looking for excuses to justify your change of mind. It's your prerogative to have a change of heart but just be honest with us (we're not Apple, just fellow Apple users) - there isn't any shame in just saying "damn, made the wrong call on my purchase, want to change my mind" - we've all done it at sometime.


PS - you've been somewhat ambiguous on your purchase but reading other posts from you is this a refurb that you spoke about purchasing? Is the issue that you now regret buying a refurb and actually want a bright sparkly "fresh out the box" iMac?

WindowsTraitor
Apr 16, 2010, 07:59 AM
J - there isn't any shame in just saying "damn, made the wrong call on my purchase, want to change my mind" -

I said that a couple of posts ago. Nevertheless I called apple, and the said to just turn it on and check it out. (I am not sure if that is just so i cannot send it back anymore lol)

Cosmetically there is no damage to the computer.

I was playing with it for a couple of hours. There is no HDD noise(limited) and I change the boot up disk in the preference setting to get the boot up time to aprox 30 sec.

I was checking for the yellow tint but if there is, it is very faint.

But it does have backlight bleeding on the bottom right corner. It is very annoying while watching movies.

Also the side viewing is really bad.

I have to install CS5 and the other stuff, and see how it goes, but in they end I may just keep it.

May suggestion though is that for people looking to buy the i5 or i7 , just make your decision based on personality. If you always want the best, just get the highest model and sleep well at night.

I decided to be cheap, getting the refurb and the lower model just cause my wife was bitching, but then I ended up bitching. So if you can afford it, get the i7.

Nevertheless, I will keep trying to find excuses to get the i7.

With the money saved, I will get:

4 more GB ram
windows 7 and parallels
HDMI to miniport converter. I read that someone is coming out with one that is fully HD. (Kanex XD)

spcdust
Apr 16, 2010, 08:20 AM
If you haven't got any sign of the yellow then that would be motivation enough to keep hold of it, despite what others may say, this is still an ongoing issue. The backlight bleed......well I think all the 27" panels are going to suffer this to a greater or lesser extent. I unfortunately have had three iMacs swapped out, electing to keep the fourth one. The first had HDD issues, and two and three had pronounced yellow hues. The fourth however, well the yellow is much less distinct (possibly non existent but I've become hyper sensitive to the issue) and acceptable. Unfortunately the backlight bleed is a little more pronounced on iMac number 4 but I've decided it's not that much of an issue so it's a keeper.

I know what you mean regarding the Core i5 and i7 decision, I did elect the i7 for the very reasons you outline but in all honesty the Core i5 would have been plenty of processing power (the benchmarks seem to suggest in "Real World" tasks there's not much in it). Reckon you've made the right call in picking up a refurb and then investing the money you've saved in the additions you mentioned.

KevKaos
Apr 16, 2010, 10:25 AM
I LOVE my refurb 21.5. I'm afraid your's is going to grow up with a complex from feeling unloved. So sad. :(

Mystic385
Apr 16, 2010, 10:46 AM
I decided to be cheap, getting the refurb and the lower model just cause my wife was bitching, but then I ended up bitching.

lol. My wife made me do it.

I think if you agree with your wife that you'll do something then you kind of need to take ownership for your actions.

Your wife sounds like a smart lady. And was supportive of you splashing out on this machine.

If you agree on something it should be a done deal. I wonder how useful it is for the relationship if you then go on about the decision on line, then blame your wife for you agreeing to buy a certain computer. If you agreed, then you agreed. Is it a good idea to blame others especially your wife if you changed your mind?

"Man up," springs to mind.

frankandsteph
Apr 16, 2010, 11:16 AM
The fact that I changed my mind is also associated to the fact that the shipping takes so long. Since I still have to pay taxes, and the shipment takes so long, I rather buy it at the apple store. So if I have an issue, I can just solve it there.

If I do not want to open the package because I will not use it. I am still going to buy an Imac, even pay more, so what is the problem with this?


I have the balls to say, I changed my mind, I made a mistake, and I want to fix it. Since I can fix it, there is no issue anymore.


But you also complain because it ill take some time to ship it back and then get a refund....would you expect them to just send your cash back without waiting?

You are a confused soul

Tombs
Apr 16, 2010, 11:34 AM
I said that a couple of posts ago. Nevertheless I called apple, and the said to just turn it on and check it out. (I am not sure if that is just so i cannot send it back anymore lol)

Cosmetically there is no damage to the computer.

I was playing with it for a couple of hours. There is no HDD noise(limited) and I change the boot up disk in the preference setting to get the boot up time to aprox 30 sec.

I was checking for the yellow tint but if there is, it is very faint.

But it does have backlight bleeding on the bottom right corner. It is very annoying while watching movies.

Also the side viewing is really bad.

I have to install CS5 and the other stuff, and see how it goes, but in they end I may just keep it.

May suggestion though is that for people looking to buy the i5 or i7 , just make your decision based on personality. If you always want the best, just get the highest model and sleep well at night.

I decided to be cheap, getting the refurb and the lower model just cause my wife was bitching, but then I ended up bitching. So if you can afford it, get the i7.

Nevertheless, I will keep trying to find excuses to get the i7.

With the money saved, I will get:

4 more GB ram
windows 7 and parallels
HDMI to miniport converter. I read that someone is coming out with one that is fully HD. (Kanex XD)

Although it got deleted by a mod I stand by my response even funnier if Jobs turned up to do the collectoin and then lays into you..:)

splashnader
Apr 16, 2010, 05:24 PM
As for the problems with the iMacs, every LCD screen is going to have some tiny miscoloration when viewing a D65 6500K color temperature set on an all white screen. Some of course will exaggerate this problem to greater extents than others.

Also almost every LCD screen is going to have back light bleeding, especially in the corners of the screen. This is a limitation with LCD technology. LED backlights can often exacerbate this problem because the backlight is so strong and constant, meaning it can't be lessened or turned down. Unless the screen is absolutely flush within micro centimeters of the back panel you will have light bleed. In order to have that kind of craftsmanship in a LCD screen or television you would have to pay twice what the iMac is worth to begin with. Even then it's not going to be perfect. Even the new MacBook pro that came out have back light bleeding. Again some worse than others.

If can't tolerate back light bleeds then you go out and buy a Mac pro tower. Spend at least two grand or more on a professional display or of course by an old heavy out dated CRT display. Other than that some flaws you will simply have to learn to live with.