Folding@home shout out! - Join the cause and our team.

[DeSnousa]

I've noticed that team Macrumors.com is losing active users since I have restarted folding@home, plus their is hardly any one joining the team :(

So this is a shut out, any one who is folding@home and any one who had once folded, post a message in this thread lets show the forums just how strong our team used to be.

Any one who once folded, come back and help the cause and the team once again. We don't need to fold 24 7 we just need you in your computers idle time to fold.

Any one who has not folded at all, folding@home is project of Stanford University to turn the worlds computers into a large super computer to fold proteins. Protein folding is linked to disease, such as Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. This is an opportunity to do charity and have competive fun in the form of a points system.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=21908

We need to get more involement! I was thinking a pass it on, where we send out a private message about team folding and then they need to forward it on to 3 other members on the forum.

[DeSnousa]

Serious out of over 400,000 members on this forum we have 69 members contribiting to folding@home. Even so team Macrumors.com is ranked 58 world wide, thats an incredible thing. We used to be ranked 23, years ago there is no reason we can't grow again!

[twoodcc]

i don't think we can do 'pass it on' thing on this forum. but we do need more involvement.

i know a lot of people on this forum have some very nice computer power. and i'm sure they do use them 24/7 either. we could be a great team. i'm doing all i can already

[daze]

I'd like to help. I think my PS3 can do Folding.

[lordonuthin]

I'd like to help. I think my PS3 can do Folding.

you most certainly can fold with a ps3 go here to get the client software (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download).

[DeSnousa]

i don't think we can do 'pass it on' thing on this forum. but we do need more involvement.

i know a lot of people on this forum have some very nice computer power. and i'm sure they do use them 24/7 either. we could be a great team. i'm doing all i can already

Thats great, I'm doing all I can to at the moment. Might not be able to cope with all that PPD as it is a laptop doing it all :D My goal is to get to 100k in points then to get into the top 100 :)

Remember all those who join, team number is 3446.

[Bennieboy©]

i'll be getting more involved with this as soon as my electricity supplier has finally changed, should be a couple of weeks, my current love overcharging me for leaving things running 24/7.

i'll also try and sort out the software for my ps3, i barely use that so it'd prolly out do my computer looool
Powermac G5 dual 2.0Ghz teh Mac Pro is coming later this year hopefully :D

[lordonuthin]

Everyone has lost interest in doing this kind of thing I guess. Maybe when they removed the screensaver, for good reasons, it wasn't as interesting for some people. Upgrading to new clients can be a hassle.

I think if the stats were more interesting, I would like to have a better way to see how I'm doing against people on other teams.

Kakaostats may go by the wayside, he doesn't have individual stats anymore and the rest of his stats are questionable because of some bug.:(

[lordonuthin]

i'll be getting more involved with this as soon as my electricity supplier has finally changed, should be a couple of weeks, my current love overcharging me for leaving things running 24/7.

At least you can change providers, at least where I live there is only one so I'm stuck with what I have to pay:(

i'll also try and sort out the software for my ps3, i barely use that so it'd prolly out do my computer looool
Powermac G5 dual 2.0Ghz teh Mac Pro is coming later this year hopefully :D

Ps3's are quite fast when it comes to folding so it may indeed outpace your G5 :p

[DeSnousa]

Everyone has lost interest in doing this kind of thing I guess. Maybe when they removed the screensaver, for good reasons, it wasn't as interesting for some people. Upgrading to new clients can be a hassle.

I think if the stats were more interesting, I would like to have a better way to see how I'm doing against people on other teams.

Kakaostats may go by the wayside, he doesn't have individual stats anymore and the rest of his stats are questionable because of some bug.:(

We need to get more users in the team and have it competitive between us and also track the teams PPD. The stats are really fun and is what makes me want to produce more then I would otherwise do :D

[SciFrog]

Every little bit helps. But what we really need is people with 8 cores plus (virtual, desktop machine) running bigadv, at least until faster GPU and/or a GPU client for mac.

[DeSnousa]

Every little bit helps. But what we really need is people with 8 cores plus (virtual, desktop machine) running bigadv, at least until faster GPU and/or a GPU client for mac.

Glad to hear from other users on the forum :)

We have lost more active users since I started this thread :( Come on every one, every bit helps. Hell if we had 1000 users folding 100 points a day that would go a long way, and for those who don't fold 100 points is not that hard for a modern computer :)

[twoodcc]

I'd like to help. I think my PS3 can do Folding.

yes, the ps3 can fold. just remember to join team 3446! and your ps3 should get around 900-1000 ppd (points per day)

i'll be getting more involved with this as soon as my electricity supplier has finally changed, should be a couple of weeks, my current love overcharging me for leaving things running 24/7.

i'll also try and sort out the software for my ps3, i barely use that so it'd prolly out do my computer looool
Powermac G5 dual 2.0Ghz teh Mac Pro is coming later this year hopefully :D

sounds good :) we need all the help we can get. and that mac pro will do nicely!

Everyone has lost interest in doing this kind of thing I guess. Maybe when they removed the screensaver, for good reasons, it wasn't as interesting for some people. Upgrading to new clients can be a hassle.

I think if the stats were more interesting, I would like to have a better way to see how I'm doing against people on other teams.

Kakaostats may go by the wayside, he doesn't have individual stats anymore and the rest of his stats are questionable because of some bug.:(

do you ever use these stats? (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=3446)

you can see other individuals also. and see how you rank against them

Every little bit helps. But what we really need is people with 8 cores plus (virtual, desktop machine) running bigadv, at least until faster GPU and/or a GPU client for mac.

yeah we do. of course GPU folding in windows helps also. but not as good as bigadv. apple needs to release the new mac pros soon!

Glad to hear from other users on the forum :)

We have lost more active users since I started this thread :( Come on every one, every bit helps. Hell if we had 1000 users folding 100 points a day that would go a long way, and for those who don't fold 100 points is not that hard for a modern computer :)

yes we do need more users. 1,000 users @ 100 ppd is 100,000 ppd. whiterabbit is doing almost that by himself!

[lordonuthin]

do you ever use these stats? (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=3446)

you can see other individuals also. and see how you rank against them.

I do now, for some reason it takes me a while to understand when I look at it.

yes we do need more users. 1,000 users @ 100 ppd is 100,000 ppd. whiterabbit is doing almost that by himself!

Ha ha, yes we could use some more folders.

[twoodcc]

I do now, for some reason it takes me a while to understand when I look at it.

i think those stats are pretty good. nothing is perfect, but they seem to work for me.


Ha ha, yes we could use some more folders.

yeah the more the better right now. and i finally got my other system up!

[lordonuthin]

yeah the more the better right now. and i finally got my other system up!

Great! I look forward to you chasing me down ;)

[DeSnousa]

Want to welcome Monitor and Pixellated to the team, thanks for your contribution :)

Monitor your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=510149

Pixellated your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=509269

[twoodcc]

Great! I look forward to you chasing me down ;)

haha. i don't think that's gonna happen just yet. maybe next year though :)

Want to welcome Monitor and Pixellated to the team, thanks for your contribution :)

Monitor your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=510149

Pixellated your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=509269

welcome to the team!

[GSX]

I have heard of Folding@home at it sounds interesting. I like the idea of helping scientists with their experiments.

Unfortunately I have two problems with this.

1) Ultimately where does all this research go? Who is benefitting from it all? I can't help but think that all this research will just enable some multi-billion dollar drug company to come up with some pill that they can patent and make billions of more dollars. I tried reading the faqs of Folding@home, but it does not really say where all this research is going. I am sure the scientists mean well with their research, but ultimately they will not be the ones creating the drugs to cure these diseases. Drug companies will be doing that, and they are strictly profit oriented.

2) My electricity prices are going up by about 10% so I really don't like the idea of my iMac running 24-7 eating up electricity, and adding to the wear and tear of my system. I'm not sure what the monthly cost would be running Folding@home, but I'm sure it adds up.

Can anyone here comment on these concerns?

[twoodcc]

I have heard of Folding@home at it sounds interesting. I like the idea of helping scientists with their experiments.

Unfortunately I have two problems with this.

1) Ultimately where does all this research go? Who is benefitting from it all? I can't help but think that all this research will just enable some multi-billion dollar drug company to come up with some pill that they can patent and make billions of more dollars. I tried reading the faqs of Folding@home, but it does not really say where all this research is going. I am sure the scientists mean well with their research, but ultimately they will not be the ones creating the drugs to cure these diseases. Drug companies will be doing that, and they are strictly profit oriented.

2) My electricity prices are going up by about 10% so I really don't like the idea of my iMac running 24-7 eating up electricity, and adding to the wear and tear of my system. I'm not sure what the monthly cost would be running Folding@home, but I'm sure it adds up.

Can anyone here comment on these concerns?

Well you do have a point. I can't really comment about it, other than that I don't know.

And yes, electricity costs do add up. But I still believe that it's a good thing to do

[4JNA]

Ultimately where does all this research go? Who is benefitting from it all? I can't help but think that all this research will just enable some multi-billion dollar drug company to come up with some pill that they can patent and make billions of more dollars. I tried reading the faqs of Folding@home, but it does not really say where all this research is going. I am sure the scientists mean well with their research, but ultimately they will not be the ones creating the drugs to cure these diseases. Drug companies will be doing that, and they are strictly profit oriented.

per the FAQ on the F@H page...

Who "owns" the results? What will happen to them?

"Unlike other distributed computing projects, Folding@home is run by an academic institution (specifically the Pande Group, at Stanford University's - Chemistry Department), which is a nonprofit institution dedicated to science research and education. We will not sell the data or make any money off of it.

Moreover, we will make the data available for others to use. In particular, the results from Folding@home will be made available on several levels. Most importantly, analysis of the simulations will be submitted to scientific journals for publication, and these journal articles will be posted on the web page after publication. Next, after publication of these scientific articles that analyze the data, the raw data of the folding runs will be available for everyone, including other researchers, here on this web site."

it's open source science. everyone participates, everyone wins.

2) My electricity prices are going up by about 10% so I really don't like the idea of my iMac running 24-7 eating up electricity, and adding to the wear and tear of my system. I'm not sure what the monthly cost would be running Folding@home, but I'm sure it adds up.


the cost of gasoline is up also, but i still drive my paper/plastic/glass to the city recycle point to keep it out of a landfill. i guess i don't get the point of the question. if you can afford the small increase in cost due to additional electrical usage, then fold. if not, don't.

no idea which system you have, but a quick guesstimate of a current imac running folding with the screen set to turn off when not being used would be around 100-120w, so like leaving a light bulb on. well, an old school incandescent bulb... you do have all LED and CFLs since you worry about electric rates, right?

if i had only an imac and a desire to fold, i'd leave the imac alone and build a cheap pc system to fold with. no wear and tear, better results, lower cost. just my 2 cents.

[DeSnousa]

Hope to see you join the team GSX, if you don't won't to run it 24/7 don't just have the client on when you use the computer. It is designed so that you do not notice a decrease in speed when using the client.

Great to know the the project is open, I never gave it that much thought :o Still even if it was run at a profit the fact is a cure has still occured :)

[DeSnousa]

Welcome gman20 to the team :)

Your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=510277

Great to see some new users, also great to see our active users increase :D

[Bennieboy©]

ok mines turned on :D ps3 will start the night shift tonight :D

[DeSnousa]

ok mines turned on :D ps3 will start the night shift tonight :D

Sounds heaps good :D Thanks!

I'm pulling nearly 4k a day, though its about to go down as I have taken a GPU offline (at least for now).

[twoodcc]

Welcome gman20 to the team :)

Your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=510277

Great to see some new users, also great to see our active users increase :D

welcome to the team!

yes it's great to see new users! we need as many as we can get!

ok mines turned on :D ps3 will start the night shift tonight :D

nice :)

[Matty-p]

ive got a ps3 and a mac pro coming monday or tuesday so will contribute these to project ps3 +24/7 (i did a weeks folding for toms hardware a month os so ago and i got 1250 ppd just on the ps3) mac pro probly only about 5-6 hours a day but more like 15 hours in the school holidays and weekends :rolleyes:! could you suggest a client for the mac :confused:?? and i think i will start a new folding acount but just to make sure you can put more than one client/machine on one acount/username also how many ppd can the 2009 quad core enty leval mac pro achive on 24/7 ????

[InfoSecmgr]

Call me ignorant, but what results has folding at home produced thus far? I'm looking for hard statistics, not "you contributed to x".

[4JNA]

Call me ignorant, but what results has folding at home produced thus far? I'm looking for hard statistics, not "you contributed to x".

not ignorant, just didn't know where to look i guess...

now onto results which can be found at the F@H page!

LINK (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Papers) to the published papers (results) page, and a really cool MOVIE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFcp2Xpd29I&feature=player_embedded) here. might no be much to watch, but the difference between folding a couple years ago and that movie are like the difference between a paper plane and the space shuttle. we have come a long way in a short period of time, and it only gets better with new clients and more people participating.

to put it a different way, if you would have been folding in 2007, you would have been part of the record...

September 2007: Guinness World Record. From their award: On 16 September 2007, Folding@home, a distributed computing network operating from Stanford University (USA) achieved a computing power of 1 petaflop -- or 1 quadrillion floating point operations per second. The project uses the power of peoples' home computers, as well as their PlayStation3s, to simulate the processes inside living cells that can lead to diseases, such as Alzheimer's Disease.

it's real, it matters, the more people that help, the better the results.

222706

[macinside]

There was a study a bit ago that showed that complexity drastically reduced participation in altruistic activities, while simplicity -- especially exact instructions on how to participate -- drastically increased participation.

I think that's applies here. Using a Mac is so simple, generally speaking, that the folding@home pages seem obtuse in comparison. The pages are all ugly, and instructions are unclear, and files seem to be missing that instruction pages reference.

To increase participation I recommend that a very clear communicator make a new thread (perhaps a sticky) with *dead simple* step by step instructions w/screenshots on how to install and turn it on (circa 2010). Maybe even a screen flow that just shows exactly how to it, hosted on a service with crystal clear video like vimeo.com. Get our mirror neurons goin', yaknow?

Case in point, I'm having my own issues. Where exactly is the screen saver? On http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/OSX/OSX.html, it talks about it, and say to grab it off the download page, but I just can't find it. Makes me feel dumb, which is hardly what you want in a social endeavor.

Beyond my notebooks, I also have 2 8 Core Mac Pro's I'd like to put into the game, but I really only want the processor power being used when they're idle. I need that power to myself at the other times. Screen saver or idle time processing is perfect.

Second, I did install just the basic install of http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/Folding@home-OSX10.5-6.29.3.pkg.zip in the meantime. Activated the client in System Preferences, and hit the enable button. When does this thing activate? It's not showing any activity in Activity Monitor yet. I guess maybe this does idle time processing w/o any visual feedback?

[4JNA]

...I think that's applies here. Using a Mac is so simple, generally speaking, that the folding@home pages seem obtuse in comparison. The pages are all ugly, and instructions are unclear, and files seem to be missing that instruction pages reference.

To increase participation I recommend that a very clear communicator make a new thread (perhaops a sticky) with *dead simple* step by step instructions w/screenshorts on how to install and turn it on (circa 2010). Maybe even a screen flow that just shows exactly how to it, hosted on a service with crystal clear video like vimeo.com. Get our mirror neurons goin', yaknow?

i agree 100% with everything you just said. that said, which version, of which client, on which system, running which OS.... :confused::eek: you get the idea. it's a huge program with lots of different possible setups, and can be a real nightmare to get/keep running.

i know lots about folding, but have no idea how to help you with your current setup questions, the big units are way out of my league, and anything posted in a sticky will likely be out of date very quickly. it's dynamic and changes and updates on a regular basis. that's a good thing, but it makes keeping up with folding very difficult and time consuming.

forums like this and the official F@H forums are a really good place to start. asking questions (like you already did) is a great start, because everyone here/there want to fold and help others fold, as it's the point of the whole thing. more people folding is always better than less, therefore help all who ask. there are several here running clients on systems just like yours and will likely respond in turn. best of luck getting it sorted out.

[DeSnousa]

Your first points are up bennieboy, welcome to the team :D

We have 75 active folders now :D

[Bennieboy©]

yeah lol my ps3 has already completed 2 work unit's whilst my G5 is lagging at 38% on it's first :O lmao roll on teh pro :D

[lordonuthin]

There was a study a bit ago that showed that complexity drastically reduced participation in altruistic activities, while simplicity -- especially exact instructions on how to participate -- drastically increased participation.

I think that's applies here. Using a Mac is so simple, generally speaking, that the folding@home pages seem obtuse in comparison. The pages are all ugly, and instructions are unclear, and files seem to be missing that instruction pages reference.

Well put, the instructions are way out of date, hard to follow for beginners and make references that are no longer valid.

To increase participation I recommend that a very clear communicator make a new thread (perhaps a sticky) with *dead simple* step by step instructions w/screenshots on how to install and turn it on (circa 2010). Maybe even a screen flow that just shows exactly how to it, hosted on a service with crystal clear video like vimeo.com. Get our mirror neurons goin', yaknow?

Case in point, I'm having my own issues. Where exactly is the screen saver? On http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/OSX/OSX.html, it talks about it, and say to grab it off the download page, but I just can't find it. Makes me feel dumb, which is hardly what you want in a social endeavor.

As far as the screen saver, it no longer exists, which is why you can't find it. Sometime in the past it was deemed detrimental to folding because it was using up valuble resources the could be used for folding. And we all go through a 'feeling dumb' stage after which you go through an 'oh well I'll do the best I can' stage, which lasts as long as you continue to fold.

Beyond my notebooks, I also have 2 8 Core Mac Pro's I'd like to put into the game, but I really only want the processor power being used when they're idle. I need that power to myself at the other times. Screen saver or idle time processing is perfect.

It would be great to have your Mac Pros folding and I understand your concern. The clients are supposed to ease up as other process use more cpu power but I have read where this doesn't always seem to work as for someone using video software etc. I suppose you could try and see if it works for you and if not... There should be new cpu software sometime in the future that "may" work better, but we will have to see.

Second, I did install just the basic install of http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/Folding@home-OSX10.5-6.29.3.pkg.zip in the meantime. Activated the client in System Preferences, and hit the enable button. When does this thing activate? It's not showing any activity in Activity Monitor yet. I guess maybe this does idle time processing w/o any visual feedback?

It sounds like it might not be running properly, did you set up a username and team? I'm running a different client that doesn't work through the prefs pane but I'll try to get back to you with something that might help, in the meantime try here (http://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=14fc4044e9c0e1c8ce9bbf6bba791c1b). Good luck! Oh I forget to mention that they are having trouble getting enough work units out for everyone to crunch, maybe that is why your client isn't running...

[DeSnousa]

Welcome to the team daygokid619 :)

Your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=510552

[daygoKid19]

thanks for welcoming me. i had a windows box running SETI all day but saw that Macrumors had a folding@home team so decided to join in. i have a question though, does having a dedicated GPU help out alot? Right the computer only has integrated graphics.

[twoodcc]

thanks for welcoming me. i had a windows box running SETI all day but saw that Macrumors had a folding@home team so decided to join in. i have a question though, does having a dedicated GPU help out alot? Right the computer only has integrated graphics.

welcome to the team and thanks for joining!

as for a dedicated GPU, it depends. you can run a GPU folding client, which will use your video card for folding, and you can still run a CPU client also. right now, nvidia cards work much better for folding.

what setup do you have now?

[daygoKid19]

welcome to the team and thanks for joining!

as for a dedicated GPU, it depends. you can run a GPU folding client, which will use your video card for folding, and you can still run a CPU client also. right now, nvidia cards work much better for folding.

what setup do you have now?
its running a 2.6 Ghz Dual Core with 2 GB of memory, Intel GMA X4500, and windows xp. it just runs F@H at the moment so i would like to use it to the best of its ability.

[twoodcc]

its running a 2.6 Ghz Dual Core with 2 GB of memory, Intel GMA X4500, and windows xp. it just runs F@H at the moment so i would like to use it to the best of its ability.

is this a desktop or laptop?

[daygoKid19]

is this a desktop or laptop?

It is a desktop. i have also decided to throw my PS3 in the mix so it will be helping out at night.

[Bennieboy©]

ok in the last 2 days, my ps3 has folded 9 WU's in the same time my G5 has managed 68% on it's first WU :O the G5 is being turned off for now lol will resume main machine folding when i get my mac pro

[DeSnousa]

ok in the last 2 days, my ps3 has folded 9 WU's in the same time my G5 has managed 68% on it's first WU :O the G5 is being turned off for now lol will resume main machine folding when i get my mac pro

Are you sure it's not a big unit that is worth a lot of points?

[Bennieboy©]

Are you sure it's not a big unit that is worth a lot of points?

i honestly have no idea lol

just looked at the preferences and under settings it was set as no preference, does that mean big WU's? i dont think the G5 has the muscle to kick the big WU's under the deadlines.

[twoodcc]

It is a desktop. i have also decided to throw my PS3 in the mix so it will be helping out at night.

oh ok. well you could add a video card to your desktop and fold with it also if you wanted. right now nvidia cards are better. probably a GTX 260 is best bang for your buck

[lordonuthin]

i honestly have no idea lol

just looked at the preferences and under settings it was set as no preference, does that mean big WU's? i dont think the G5 has the muscle to kick the big WU's under the deadlines.

The G5 doesn't have the power for big wu's, from my experience they don't make good folding machines which is too bad as there are a lot of them still out there.

[Bennieboy©]

The G5 doesn't have the power for big wu's, from my experience they don't make good folding machines which is too bad as there are a lot of them still out there.

lol i didnt think so, not with twoodcc talking about i7's and such
been thinking about swallowing the mac pro pride, and going the hackintosh route, been reading the F@H FAQ about the gpu's an such, and i'd get a tonne more hackintosh for my money then i would mac pro, so i may go down that route, would prolly make upgrading things to stay current a lot easier then the mac pro too :D

[twoodcc]

lol i didnt think so, not with twoodcc talking about i7's and such
been thinking about swallowing the mac pro pride, and going the hackintosh route, been reading the F@H FAQ about the gpu's an such, and i'd get a tonne more hackintosh for my money then i would mac pro, so i may go down that route, would prolly make upgrading things to stay current a lot easier then the mac pro too :D

that's not a bad route to go at this point. but remember, for gpu folding you have to use windows, at least for now.

any you really only get a tone of points if you overclock or run multiple gpus in windows

[Bennieboy©]

that's not a bad route to go at this point. but remember, for gpu folding you have to use windows, at least for now.

any you really only get a tone of points if you overclock or run multiple gpus in windows

thats what i was thinking about the mac pro, load one up with 4 gfx cards, or a hackintosh running osx, windows on bootcamp using the extra gfx cores and the main F@H on the OSx side with the cpu,

[twoodcc]

thats what i was thinking about the mac pro, load one up with 4 gfx cards, or a hackintosh running osx, windows on bootcamp using the extra gfx cores and the main F@H on the OSx side with the cpu,

remember though, you can't use the gpu's in OS X, only in windows right now. so the only way to use both gpu and cpu at the same time is in windows, unless you are good in linux, i've heard people getting it to work

[lordonuthin]

remember though, you can't use the gpu's in OS X, only in windows right now. so the only way to use both gpu and cpu at the same time is in windows, unless you are good in linux, i've heard people getting it to work

Using WINE can work but it isn't easy, I tried and wasn't able to get it working. I will have to try again sometime.

[twoodcc]

Using WINE can work but it isn't easy, I tried and wasn't able to get it working. I will have to try again sometime.

yeah that's what i've heard. i've also heard some people say it was easy, but they were running a non-gui version of linux. i'm not that good with linux yet

[King Mook Mook]

I've installed it and am now part of the MR Team! YAY! The only thing is that it's not taking any processor power, or at least it doesn't appear to. I've got iStat installed and I can't see it take any of the CPU power, and I've followed the guide (it wasn't exactly difficult) and it still doesn't show it taking any power.... I don't know if that's how it supposed to be, but I'm pretty sure it's not, and I really want to contribute to the team, so if someone could help me out it would be terrific! And my User Name for Folding is KingMookMook, and I couldn't see that listed on the MR Folding Site, so it probably isn't working... I've only been doing it for a couple of hours though, so I might not have done enough to show up on the boards.

King Mook Mook

[King Mook Mook]

Okay, I fixed it! I enter in the -advmethods in advanced and that got me one to work on straight away! Apparently this is quite a common problem, so if you're having problems with your Folding@Home, then try that tag and it'll probably work. Now I'm using my full CPU and Folding away!

King Mook Mook

[DeSnousa]

Okay, I fixed it! I enter in the -advmethods in advanced and that got me one to work on straight away! Apparently this is quite a common problem, so if you're having problems with your Folding@Home, then try that tag and it'll probably work. Now I'm using my full CPU and Folding away!

King Mook Mook

Great to hear you fixed it up and welcome to the team. Your stats will pop up when you complete a unit (allow a few hours after).

Great news for the team :D

[twoodcc]

Okay, I fixed it! I enter in the -advmethods in advanced and that got me one to work on straight away! Apparently this is quite a common problem, so if you're having problems with your Folding@Home, then try that tag and it'll probably work. Now I'm using my full CPU and Folding away!

King Mook Mook

thanks for joining! and glad you got it fixed!

you can look at your log file to see the status of the current unit you're working on. once you complete a unit, could take 12 hours or so, depending on the unit, then you'll show up on the stats page

[Matty-p]

just started folding again - made my self a new account and changed teams to mac rumors - at the moment im only at about 1/3 folding power about (1100 ppd) Sunday or Monday will be adding my new main mac to the team :)

[twoodcc]

just started folding again - made my self a new account and changed teams to mac rumors - at the moment im only at about 1/3 folding power about (1100 ppd) Sunday or Monday will be adding my new main mac to the team :)

Thanks for joining! We need all the help we can get

[lordonuthin]

Welcome king mook mook and matty-p we appreciate your joining the team!

[DeSnousa]

Great to see so many joining the team :D

[dukebound85]

why isnt my fah using cpu cycles? i dl's the client and started it in sys prefs

never mind, its going

[Bennieboy©]

why isnt my fah using cpu cycles? i dl's the client and started it in sys prefs

system prefs? are you using the command line variant? there should be some coding info on F@H for getting it started working via the terminal ;)

*edit

i think this is what your after SMP Guide (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacSMPGuide) ;)

[dukebound85]

now i cant seem to find myself on the MR team lol

[Bennieboy©]

now i cant seem to find myself on the MR team lol

if you've only just started, you wont, let the program crunch a few WU's it'll take a while depending on your system and WU settings, but you'll be up there soon enough ;)

[dukebound85]

cool

my quad core 2.4 ghz with an 8800gt is chugging away lol

what flags should i use?

[twoodcc]

cool

my quad core 2.4 ghz with an 8800gt is chugging away lol

what flags should i use?

i think you can run the gpu client for your video card. worth a shot anyways

[Bennieboy©]

here are your stats Dukebound Click (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=511029)

[stridemat]

Ok ignore my ignorance.....

but my computer is on 24h a day, I never turn it off, so it would make sense for me to help the MR cause. I have tried setting it up before but it never 'did' anything. Help?

[Bennieboy©]

Ok ignore my ignorance.....

but my computer is on 24h a day, I never turn it off, so it would make sense for me to help the MR cause. I have tried setting it up before but it never 'did' anything. Help?

whats your machine? are you capable and comfortable with terminal controls? or need a GUI lol

you can read more Here (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ)
and Here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=21908)

[stridemat]

whats your machine? are you capable and comfortable with terminal controls? or need a GUI lol

you can read more Here (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ)
and Here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=21908)

Im comfortable with terminal, and it seems less wasteful than a GUI. Im on a 2007 macbook (slow and steady and all that) but like I say its on 24h a day so should hopefully churn through some units.

[Bennieboy©]

sweet :D welcome to the team in that case,

sidenote, hmmm mines been fetching a new WU for the last half hour, my iStat is showing no net usage or downloads :S any ideas whats going on?

hmm the log is showing no more work left :S i've just restarted F@H and selected the ' larger then 5Mb option ' but still nothing :S anyone else getting this?

[stridemat]

When I get home I will have a look at setting it up again, Im not sure how good an iPhone would be at folding :cool:

[DeSnousa]

Sometimes the project has difficulties in sending the WUs, it will come in time :)

[lordonuthin]

yeah, lately there haven't been enough wu's to go around but if you set the -advmethod flag you may get something. or not :p

[lordonuthin]

sweet :D welcome to the team in that case,

sidenote, hmmm mines been fetching a new WU for the last half hour, my iStat is showing no net usage or downloads :S any ideas whats going on?

hmm the log is showing no more work left :S i've just restarted F@H and selected the ' larger then 5Mb option ' but still nothing :S anyone else getting this?

Restarting should fix it but it may cough a few times or you can get rid of the queue.dat file to get it going again. if you are using the terminal start it with "./fah6 -config" and when you get to the part where it asks if you want to change advanced setting say yes and use defaults for everything, except say yes to scientific wu's, and it should give you something to work on. Scientific wu's are alpha and beta stage wu's which could have problems but usually finish ok for me.

[Bennieboy©]

still not getting nothing lol my ps3 on the other hand seems to have stepped up a gear, i was on 13 completed WU's yesterday and it's jumped to 20 today :O seems weird lol my ps3 not having any trouble getting the units lol

^^ oh no i'm using the gui version, i'm rubbish with out point and click haha
i've restarted the program now about 10 times, rebooted my computer once, and my router, but still nothing lol

*edit* finally, i turned on ' no preferences ' and it found something lol it dont look big WU, so should be rolling :D

[DeSnousa]

Welcome MacInside_Octo1 to the team.

Your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=512266

[twoodcc]

Welcome MacInside_Octo1 to the team.

Your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=512266

thanks for joining!

[theblueone]

I just joined anonymously, but I used the MacRumors team number.

[DeSnousa]

I just joined anonymously, but I used the MacRumors team number.

Excellent, thanks a lot for your contributions.

[twoodcc]

I just joined anonymously, but I used the MacRumors team number.

thanks for joining our team! any reason you didn't want to choose your own username?

[DeSnousa]

Welcome grapes911 to the team :D

[twoodcc]

Welcome grapes911 to the team :D

thanks for joining! welcome! :)

[DeSnousa]

Wow the team is doing really good at the moment, we are set to overtake now before we get overtaken ourseleves. We have some 11 new members over the last week and have over 80 folder, lets get this to 100 :D

Go team this is very exciting.

[twoodcc]

Wow the team is doing really good at the moment, we are set to overtake now before we get overtaken ourseleves. We have some 11 new members over the last week and have over 80 folder, lets get this to 100 :D

Go team this is very exciting.

yeah we are looking a little better, but we have a long way to go!

but i believe the more active we are in this forum, the more people will join

[SciFrog]

Here is a good stat to look at, we are #52 at crunching but 58 position. Our outlook is better, but really it is just enough for keeping our spot.

Hopefully the release of GPU3 for macs, a3 bigadv and 12 cores mac pro will help.

[twoodcc]

Here is a good stat to look at, we are #52 at crunching but 58 position. Our outlook is better, but really it is just enough for keeping our spot.

Hopefully the release of GPU3 for macs, a3 bigadv and 12 cores mac pro will help.

yeah all of those will help. especially that new mac pro. but even then, unless we are more active on this forum, people won't join the team

[DeSnousa]

yeah all of those will help. especially that new mac pro. but even then, unless we are more active on this forum, people won't join the team

Very much agree, we have had great new participation for new users, even 100-200 ppd from a user is great and still will help the team out.

Since begining again and having lower points, I have now 2 dangerous enemies that are trying to take me out, stay away daygokid619 and Oculus, I have to admit it really is fun and I will make sure that none of you overtake me so I have recruited my iBook and old P4 to give me an extra 200ppd :eek::p

I might build a system soon as well as my main is getting really old, should be able to afford it in 3-6 months, what do you guys recommend, I am on a thight budget. Thinking an AMD Phenom with 4gb of ram and a Nvidea gtx260?

[twoodcc]

Very much agree, we have had great new participation for new users, even 100-200 ppd from a user is great and still will help the team out.

Since begining again and having lower points, I have now 2 dangerous enemies that are trying to take me out, stay away daygokid619 and Oculus, I have to admit it really is fun and I will make sure that none of you overtake me so I have recruited my iBook and old P4 to give me an extra 200ppd :eek::p

I might build a system soon as well as my main is getting really old, should be able to afford it in 3-6 months, what do you guys recommend, I am on a thight budget. Thinking an AMD Phenom with 4gb of ram and a Nvidea gtx260?

agreed. and i've seen other very active forums where they have give-aways and stuff for the "folder of the month" and such. i've even seen some members give other members video cards or computers, as long as they agree to use it for folding.

as far as a new system on a budget - what is your budget, and when do you plan on buying? both of those factors play a part

[DeSnousa]

agreed. and i've seen other very active forums where they have give-aways and stuff for the "folder of the month" and such. i've even seen some members give other members video cards or computers, as long as they agree to use it for folding.

as far as a new system on a budget - what is your budget, and when do you plan on buying? both of those factors play a part

I was thinking could Arn not give out a paid subscription to the forums for a year say when you hit milestones of 250,000 points or so, so from Jan to Dec if you accumulate a minium you get the next year?

Budget is around AUS$800-1000, and I will be getting most of the parts in 3 to 4 months unless there is new tech coming not to long after it?

[twoodcc]

I was thinking could Arn not give out a paid subscription to the forums for a year say when you hit milestones of 250,000 points or so?

Budget is around AUS$800-1000, and I will be getting most of the parts in 3 to 4 months unless there is new tech coming not to long after it?

i would love it if Arn would do that!

what is that American?

it depends if you want to go intel or amd. also, you have to consider that the new GPU client is coming eventually, which should help ATI video cards greatly

[DeSnousa]

i would love it if Arn would do that!

what is that American?

it depends if you want to go intel or amd. also, you have to consider that the new GPU client is coming eventually, which should help ATI video cards greatly

Australian dollars, I thought AMD just so I could afford a better GPU, maybe even a GTX285. Is ATI going to get better by a lot? I have only looked at Nvidea because of folding. I will use the rig for light gaming but would love to play WOW on High and any current games at Med with 1080 res.

What Intel would you recommend on a budget?

[twoodcc]

Australian dollars, I thought AMD just so I could afford a better GPU, maybe even a GTX285. Is ATI going to get better by a lot? I have only looked at Nvidea because of folding. I will use the rig for light gaming but would love to play WOW on High and any current games at Med with 1080 res.

What Intel would you recommend on a budget?

i mean what is $800 Australian in American dollars?

the reason i bring up the next GPU client is b/c i've heard it will be better with ATI cards than the current client. now i'm not sure if the ATI cards will pass nvidia or not though (i doubt it, but i'm just not sure).

right now intel is better than amd for folding, but that doesn't mean you can't fold with it.

with intel, if you go with let's say an i3 or i5 processor, you can always upgrade later. but keep in mind that i3, i5, and i7 860 use a different socket than the i7 920/930 and up.

[daygoKid19]

Since begining again and having lower points, I have now 2 dangerous enemies that are trying to take me out, stay away daygokid619 and Oculus, I have to admit it really is fun and I will make sure that none of you overtake me so I have recruited my iBook and old P4 to give me an extra 200ppd :eek::p


I must say it has been fun watching the stats, accumulating points and moving up the chart. The only thing at the moment i have running is the GPU system tray client which seems to be doing pretty well by itself. Oh and by the way i will catch you one day DeSnousa.

[DeSnousa]

i mean what is $800 Australian in American dollars?

the reason i bring up the next GPU client is b/c i've heard it will be better with ATI cards than the current client. now i'm not sure if the ATI cards will pass nvidia or not though (i doubt it, but i'm just not sure).

right now intel is better than amd for folding, but that doesn't mean you can't fold with it.

with intel, if you go with let's say an i3 or i5 processor, you can always upgrade later. but keep in mind that i3, i5, and i7 860 use a different socket than the i7 920/930 and up.

Ahh stuff it I will spend roughly 900-1100 US dollars, so if you had that kind of money what would you get, don't need a screen, nor Windows 7. I appreciate your thought and help.

[twoodcc]

I must say it has been fun watching the stats, accumulating points and moving up the chart. The only thing at the moment i have running is the GPU system tray client which seems to be doing pretty well by itself. Oh and by the way i will catch you one day DeSnousa.

glad you're having fun! and hopefully you'll add more systems soon!

Ahh stuff it I will spend roughly 900-1100 US dollars, so if you had that kind of money what would you get, don't need a screen, nor Windows 7. I appreciate your thought and help.

ok, if you can spend about $1,100 US dollars then i'd go for an i7 930 system. that way it's plenty upgradeable and depending on the motherboard, you can add GPUs later.

do you plan to build yourself?

[DeSnousa]

I must say it has been fun watching the stats, accumulating points and moving up the chart. The only thing at the moment i have running is the GPU system tray client which seems to be doing pretty well by itself. Oh and by the way i will catch you one day DeSnousa.

Well you are 3 months away at the moment! Hopefully by then I will have a new rig, but I look forward to the day you catch me!

[DeSnousa]

ok, if you can spend about $1,100 US dollars then i'd go for an i7 930 system. that way it's plenty upgradeable and depending on the motherboard, you can add GPUs later.

do you plan to build yourself?

I did plan on building myself but I might get the store to do it for me. I have done HDD, GPUS, CD drives, Ram. I'm just have not done the CPU and I am affraid I will bend all the bits on it. Also all the cords that attach everywhere might confuse me, like power on button.

Would I need to overclock the 930 system, never done a thing like that before. Does it really add to the ppd, also I will be using the system myself so it will not fold 24/7.

Would a good GPU not be better then a Intel 930?

[twoodcc]

I did plan on building myself but I might get the store to do it for me. I have done HDD, GPUS, CD drives, Ram. I'm just have not done the CPU and I am affraid I will bend all the bits on it. Also all the cords that attach everywhere might confuse me, like power on button.

Would I need to overclock the 930 system, never done a thing like that before. Does it really add to the ppd, also I will be using the system myself so it will not fold 24/7.

Would a good GPU not be better then a Intel 930?

if you get an i7 930: you can run bigadv units, but you will need to overclock at least some. if you build the system yourself, an slight overclock is very easy (my motherboad has a 'dummy overclock' setting to set it to 3.2 ghz).

with bigadv units and the smp2 units, you get a bonus for how quick you return the work unit. a 930 at 4.0 ghz is about the same as a 2 x 2.26 ghz mac pro. but 4.0 ghz isn't easy.

so, if you don't feel like overclocking at least a little bit, you can just run the smp2 units. they still give a bonus, just they are worth less points.

GPUs use more power and create more heat. the big GPUs use a ton of power and cost quite a bit of money. i can look into a GPU vs 930 more later if you like.

the reason i recommend the 930 is b/c you can always add a GPU down the road.

also, i've not had that great of an experience building my own, so i kinda recommend buying one already built

[DeSnousa]

I have noticed that a lot of the new folders (including myself) are folding a lot of points for the team, great to see :)

I have now hit the 6k red colour for folding :cool: Need some more competition now on the lower score table :p (no point trying to chase the others ;)

[twoodcc]

I have noticed that a lot of the new folders (including myself) are folding a lot of points for the team, great to see :)

I have now hit the 6k red colour for folding :cool: Need some more competition now on the lower score table :p (no point trying to chase the others ;)

good for you and others! :)

hey there's always a point to chase others! i myself will be dwindling down soon it looks like. so you gotta chase me!

[lordonuthin]

I have noticed that a lot of the new folders (including myself) are folding a lot of points for the team, great to see :)

I have now hit the 6k red colour for folding :cool: Need some more competition now on the lower score table :p (no point trying to chase the others ;)

I have noticed there are quite a few new folders on our team "go team" glad to see them and congrats to you for reaching the red zone.