Lost (TV show)

[pdpfilms]

I cannot express how excited I am to have this season's Lost episodes available for download... this is amazing. I'm watching last week's episode right now, it's pretty swell.

[Don't panic]

A better closeup.
is that an actual screen grab? what did you use? mine looked identical to the previous one and tit read 'zfehde'

edit: on second thought, could it be '2 FEB 06' ?

[840quadra]

<spoiler></spoiler>Read it verrrrrry carefully!

That was fun, I decoded it anyway to see how much i could remember. Sadly I only knew about 20% of the letters by memory, had to look up the rest :( .

bah!

.- .-.. .-.. / .. -. / - .... . / -. .- -- . / --- ..-. / ..-. ..- -. :D

http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=47064&type=profile&dateline=1127904880

[Doctor Q]

is that an actual screen grab? what did you use? mine looked identical to the previous one and tit read 'zfehde'

edit: on second thought, could it be '2 FEB 06' ?Yes, an actual screen grab, using the Zoom feature of Flash. I wonder if it changes over time as the Morse Code is suspected of doing. So far today they have both stayed constant for me.

[clayj]

One thing I just noticed... Dr. Candle said in the film that the tour of duty on the island is 540 days.

540 = 5 * 108 ;)

[emw]

Yes, an actual screen grab, using the Zoom feature of Flash. I wonder if it changes over time as the Morse Code is suspected of doing. So far today they have both stayed constant for me.
Doesn't seem to be changing for me, either.

2FENO6

Note that it is an 'O', not a zero. I copied it as text, oddly enough.

[clayj]

2FENO6Could this be some sort of chemical formula? 2 FE (2 iron atoms) + NO6 (nitrous hexoxide)?

[Doctor Q]

Could this be some sort of chemical formula? 2 FE (2 iron atoms) + NO6 (nitrous hexoxide)?How did they know 2FENO6 was my license plate? :eek: ;)

[barneygumble]

Could this be some sort of chemical formula? 2 FE (2 iron atoms) + NO6 (nitrous hexoxide)?

not quite that would be Fe2NO6 this would be 2 molecules of FeNO6

[clayj]

not quite that would be Fe2NO6 this would be 2 molecules of FeNO6Yep, you're right... been a long time since I took chemistry.

Is FeNO6 even a stable molecular configuration? (A quick Google search shows that it is, but does not reveal what FeNO6 might be good for.)

[barneygumble]

Yep, you're right... been a long time since I took chemistry.

Is FeNO6 even a stable molecular configuration? (A quick Google search shows that it is, but does not reveal what FeNO6 might be good for.)

typed it into wikipedia and it came up with a whole list of drugs

[pdpfilms]

Yep, you're right... been a long time since I took chemistry.

Is FeNO6 even a stable molecular configuration? (A quick Google search shows that it is, but does not reveal what FeNO6 might be good for.)

I have a feeling we're looking too deep into this one...

[atszyman]

Jin's father-in-law is either a part of the DHARMA initiative, or possibly a competitor that wants to take over and get ahold of the government funding. (If DHARMA really did manage to do something that threatens the planet they must have a sweet deal with whatever governments fund them to keep the planet here). I'd look to Jin for reasons for the plane crash which leads to my wild theory:

The plane was never in the air and some of the survivors were pre-selected to survive the crash. There was an elaborate simulation that gave the impression of flight and the plane was rigged to get pulled apart and some seats purposely had weaker bolts to possibly get ripped from the plane into the simulator/wind tunnel/whatever contraption they had. As they ripped apart the plane some people got sucked out, some got ripped out by force of the simulated impact on the island (through a low altitude drop to the actual island via helicopter or some other means) and some survived.

That's my current theory but I don't necessarily believe it myself, since the writers are definitely more creative than me.

So much for those theories now that we know why Jin spoke english....

What a F'n tease...:D

[Lyle]

Well, tonight's episode didn't do a whole lot to move the plot forward. Rose will be glad to learn that Bernard's still with us, though. :rolleyes:

[clayj]

Ix-nay on the oilers-spay until 1 AM, lease-pay.

[Lyle]

Ix-nay on the oilers-spay until 1 AM, lease-pay.I'm sorry Clay, I didn't even think about that. OK, Bernard may or may not still be alive. ;)

[clayj]

I'm sorry Clay, I didn't even think about that. OK, Bernard may or may not still be alive. ;)Yeah, we have to be considerate of those on the West Coast, for whom the show doesn't end until 1 AM ET.

[Lacero]

Dammnit!! I click on links almost unconsciously and I find myself in the Lost thread. The show has yet to air on the west coast, but I find myself perusing the posts, without realizing I'm reading about Lost. MR is evil! :mad:

[atszyman]

Dammnit!! I click on links almost unconsciously and I find myself in the Lost thread. The show has yet to air on the west coast, but I find myself perusing the posts, without realizing I'm reading about Lost. MR is evil! :mad:


MacRumors is completely benign, it is we the users who bend and shape it for our evil plots. Or maybe that's just me...:D

[pdpfilms]

Yeah, we have to be considerate of those on the West Coast, for whom the show doesn't end until 1 AM ET.

So respectful, clayj. I am one of those west coasters, And i'd appreciate to have fresh lost every week, but be able to contribute to the theories and speculation as well.

[Doctor Q]

Rose will be glad to learn that Bernard's still with us, though....assuming the message (or Bernard) ever gets to her.

I liked the ending, where she saved Sweet Tooth Bernard some candy.

Would you like to know MY method for distributing the food? I'd let them draw straws to establish an order, and then go through the group over and over in that order. On their turn, each person gets to pick one item from storage. They then own that item. After everything is distributed, all further sharing is by bartering.

Of course, I get a 5% cut as a consulting fee.

[Doctor Q]

The Morse code has changed at bigspaceship1.com. Now it says "NARVIK FOR LIFE".

There's a connection. In Season 2 Episode 3 of Lost, you briefly see City Hall in Narvik, Norway. But I see no polar bears in this photo.

http://www.narvikinfo.no/bildearkiv/Narvikdowntown/Untitled_018.jpg

[pdpfilms]

The Morse code has changed at bigspaceship1.com. Now it says "NARVIK FOR LIFE".

There's a connection. In Season 2 Episode 3 of Lost, you briefly see City Hall in Narvik, Norway. But I see no polar bears in this photo.

http://www.narvikinfo.no/bildearkiv/Narvikdowntown/Untitled_018.jpg

Woa now. We need our best researchers on this one... How is Narvik significant?

[agreenster]

The show has a lot to do with fathers as well.

Jack's was picking up his dead fathers casket in Australia
Locke's "father" stole his kidney
Sawyer has father issues (someone else can elaborate, I cant remember)
The Blonde's (whats her name?)father died on Jacks operating table
The Hobbitt dood is like a father to the baby on the island
Walt + his dad
Jin + his father in law

Im sure there's more...

[Doctor Q]

The show has a lot to do with fathers as well...

Im sure there's more...Charlie is surrogate father to Claire's baby.

[MongoTheGeek]

The show has a lot to do with fathers as well.

Jack's was picking up his dead fathers casket in Australia
Locke's "father" stole his kidney
Sawyer has father issues (someone else can elaborate, I cant remember)
The Blonde's (whats her name?)father died on Jacks operating table
The Hobbitt dood is like a father to the baby on the island
Walt + his dad
Jin + his father in law

Im sure there's more...

When did it come out that Shannon's Father died on Jack's table? We he the guy who Jack let die to save his future wife?

Charlie is surrogate father to Claire's baby.

That's the hobbit dude.

I liked the reference to the Outsiders (http://imdb.com/title/tt0086066/) in this episode. I wonder if Hurley does actually speak Korean and was he the one who was supposed to get the watch from Jin?

I thought it was amusing that they were picking over drive shaft CD's in the record store. I also wonder what ever happened to girl that he asked out.

The people from the tail section look to have been almost wiped out by the others. Kidnapped or killed who is to say. I guess we find out next week.

[Lacero]

Plot development is moving at a snail's pace. I give this series 2 more shows before I give up on it for a end of season DVD recap.

[atszyman]

When did it come out that Shannon's Father died on Jack's table? We he the guy who Jack let die to save his future wife?
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The people from the tail section look to have been almost wiped out by the others. Kidnapped or killed who is to say. I guess we find out next week.

Yes, Shannon's Father was the man that Jack let die to save his wife.

We don't know for sure that it was the Others that wiped out the people in the back of the plane. There is still the fact that there is some sort of disease that many people on the island had in the past, Desmond and Rouseau make reference to it a few times.

[Jomoma]

Yeah, this episode was much slower than the last, although it was nice to get some Hurley info.
The only new mystery for me is what the other "bunker" was for, what happened to the rest of the 23 from the tail section, and what's behind the titanium...
I'd like to be able to wait for a season recap, but I don't think there's any way I could wait that long.
It'd be cool if they put special features into the ipod version, like extra scenes or something...

[watcher2001]

edit: on second thought, could it be '2 FEB 06' ?

I am almost positive that it is 2 FEB 06 and not 2FEN06. I actually took the screen grab and zoomed it in. I then compared this to the LCD font I have. In the LCD font the slant on the N is in the upper half of the letter. In the secret message it is not. It is more a straight line in the middle. This leads me to believe it is either the letter R or the letter B. At first I thought it might be the date of the season finale but Feb 02 2006 is a Tuesday not a Wednesday... Do I have too much time on my hands??

BTW Bottom image is a close up of the letters N and B from the LCD font family

[stonyc]

Yeah, this episode was much slower than the last, although it was nice to get some Hurley info.
The only new mystery for me is what the other "bunker" was for, what happened to the rest of the 23 from the tail section, and what's behind the titanium...
I'd like to be able to wait for a season recap, but I don't think there's any way I could wait that long.
It'd be cool if they put special features into the ipod version, like extra scenes or something...Just my opinion, but I think because the tail-section survivors were hiding from what was implied as The Others (in the preview for next week's episode), some, if not all of the missing tail-section survivors were killed off by The Others.

One correction though... what was in Desmond's bunker wasn't behind titanium. It was concrete, and what Sayed was using to chip away at it was a piece of bulkhead or support beam made out of titanium. That's why when he's banging away and Jack comes up to show Sayed how his key is attracted by whatever is behind the concrete wall(s), Sayed says something to the effect "Good thing this is made out of titanium, low magnetism"... then kind of motions with the piece of metal he was using.

Also, later when they are underneath the concrete room, Jack asks Sayed what he thinks is inside... and Sayed replies saying something like "The last I heard about anything being inside so much concrete was Chernobyl."

Also, I thought it was interesting that this was the first episode where Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje was credited as an actor on the show, when he was shown fairly prominently in the last two. Link to his imdb profile:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0015382/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9YWRld2FsZXxmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x ;fc=1;ft=22;fm=1

[watcher2001]

OK, Is anyone else surprised by the fact that the C-store clerk remembers the guy that purchased the ticket. Take into consideration that this was (According to the show) one of the largests jackpots ever. When lottery jackpots get that high it tends to start a 'Feeding Frenzy' at the lottery retailers. I know with the powerball here in the midwest being > 200 million I have to wait in line behind 10 people buying tickets just to pay for my gas and soda. Using that logic I am sure that the clerk sold several hundred tickets over the course of the 3-5 days, most of those quick picks. IMHO the odds of him remember the "One golden ticket" are almost as high as winning the lottery in the first place.

Just my 2 Cents worth

[emw]

OK, Is anyone else surprised by the fact that the C-store clerk remembers the guy that purchased the ticket. That's the first thing I said to my wife. There's no way he would have known who bought the winning ticket, unless Hurley somehow went there before to check on the "cash-in" process or something, but that's unlikely.

As for 2FEB06 vs. 2FENO6, the Flash tools definitively show it as 2FENO6, with an "O" not a zero, which doesn't seem to make immediate sense.

[yellow]

Maybe the tail section resorted to cannibalism to survive. :eek:

As for Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, once I realized who it was, I wondered if Harold Perrineau Jr. (who plays Mike) got him the job. If you remember, they were both inmates on HBO's "Oz".

They're definitely getting power from natural hot springs, since Kate mentioned that the water smelled of sulfur. Anyone who has been to Iceland will know that it's weird taking a shower in water heated by a geothermal spring.

Cool episode. Nice to see Rose back, level headed as always. Though as usual, the episode asked more of us then it revealed. The creators and writers sure do have a good formula for generating water-cooler buzz/discussions.

[atszyman]

OK, Is anyone else surprised by the fact that the C-store clerk remembers the guy that purchased the ticket. Take into consideration that this was (According to the show) one of the largests jackpots ever. When lottery jackpots get that high it tends to start a 'Feeding Frenzy' at the lottery retailers. I know with the powerball here in the midwest being > 200 million I have to wait in line behind 10 people buying tickets just to pay for my gas and soda. Using that logic I am sure that the clerk sold several hundred tickets over the course of the 3-5 days, most of those quick picks. IMHO the odds of him remember the "One golden ticket" are almost as high as winning the lottery in the first place.

Just my 2 Cents worth

I can offer an explanation.

Once they figure out which machine printed the winning ticket they can figure out when the ticket was sold. It's entirely possible that they reviewed the security footage for that time to see who the winner was. Hurley would be pretty distinctive on the tape and once the clerk saw the body shape he might have remembered exactly who Hurley was.

[watcher2001]

if you go to a secure version of the hanso site( https) you find this:
bigspaceship1.com
go to the site here (http://www.bigspaceship1.com/)
and see the polar bears.

does that look like morse code at the top of the page? it also shows up in your safari history page.

edit: it is morse code. pretty funny.

How odd. Now the morse code reads.

.-. .... --- -.-. --- .-.. .- - . / .- ... -.-. .-.. . .--. .. ..- ...

Which unless my morse is way rustier than I thought, translates to

Inviso Text: rhocslate/asclepius

Even trying to anagram search this one I get nothing, Any ideas?

As for 2FEB06 vs. 2FENO6, the Flash tools definitively show it as 2FENO6, with an "O" not a zero, which doesn't seem to make immediate sense.

Yeah I got a flash editor and now see the same thing... And I thought I was on a good track. Oh well. back to the drawing board.

[3rdpath]

notice anything interesting on the fuselage?

edit: click on photo for larger picture.

[clayj]

notice anything interesting on the fuselage?Is that Photoshopped, or am I gonna have to dig out my Lost DVDs to make sure that logo was REALLY there?

[rickvanr]

damnnnnn.. I'll be getting my DVDs out when I'm home this weekend.

[3rdpath]

Is that Photoshopped, or am I gonna have to dig out my Lost DVDs to make sure that logo was REALLY there?

according to the person i swiped it from, they went back and checked with their first season's dvd...and sure enough-it's there.

just one of those things you don't notice the first time kinda like all those small flying grimlins in the pilot episode....swooping in and making things blow-up.

[Lacero]

notice anything interesting on the fuselage?Ahh I see it. The shadows look like a pair of arms reaching into the air, perhaps to grab an unsuspecting victim? Scary. They may be 'the others'. :eek:

[3rdpath]

btw clayj...

aren't you and i too old to be posting here?
;)

[clayj]

btw clayj...

aren't you and i too old to be posting here?
;)I don't know... how old are you?

[pdpfilms]

Nice find. This has been talked about a bunch on lost-tv.com (http://p073.ezboard.com/flosttheunofficalforumfortheabcseriesfrm2.showMessage?topicID=4694.topic) , and I personally agree with the view that it's not the logo. There's a picture of the plane somewhere that ABC bought for the show, and it's got reinforcing metal plates around the doors that look alot like this... let me see if i can find it.

EDIT: Here we go.http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32547&stc=1

[rickvanr]

just one of those things you don't notice the first time kinda like all those small flying grimlins in the pilot episode....swooping in and making things blow-up.

Are you serious? I never noticed that, and I watched the Pilot 3-4 times.

Lacero, what are you taking about? There is a Dharma like logo on the plane, where are you seeing arms?

[3rdpath]

I don't know... how old are you?

just making reference to this:
@clayj & 3rdPath:

You guys are not serious, right? Two adult men chiming in with teenagers who compare penis sizes? How childish is that!?!?! looks really like a low self-esteem.

cause i'm just posting here to build my over-the-hill self esteem ya know...


regarding the logo-how come it's not by an airplane door?

[XIII]

regarding the logo-how come it's not by an airplane door?

It would appear it is... :)

[3rdpath]

It would appear it is... :)

looks to be in a different place from the referenced photos. maybe i'm not seeing it the same way.
:confused:

time to get new glasses? ;)

[MongoTheGeek]

looks to be in a different place from the referenced photos. maybe i'm not seeing it the same way.
:confused:

time to get new glasses? ;)

Not enough context to tell but the diagonals are too short in relation to the top.

Call it a paranoid halluination

[Don't panic]

anybody is keeping tags on the morse code titles?

I only saw the polar bears one and now the bunny one. anything hidden in this picture? my googling only made me find that the song (want a danish) is by van morrison, 1968 (!), edit:now the sound appears to be something like the soundtrack of a bugs bunny cartoon:confused:
also, the bunny title translates to rhocolate/asclepius which doesn't make much sense other than that rhocolate could be 'chocolate' misspelled, and in the bear's one there was also a misspelling (pear instead of bear).
any thought? is there a mistake in every title?

also, check out thedharmainitiative.info

[clayj]

anybody is keeping tags on the morse code titles?

I only saw the polar bears one and now the bunny one. anything hidden in this picture? my googling only made me find that the song (want a danish) is by van morrison, 1968 (!), edit:now the sound appears to be something like the soundtrack of a bugs bunny cartoon:confused:
also, the bunny title translates to rhocolate/asclepius which doesn't make much sense other than that rhocolate could be 'chocolate' misspelled, and in the bear's one there was also a misspelling (pear instead of bear).
any thought? is there a mistake in every title?

also, check out thedharmainitiative.infoAsclepius was a Greek hero who later became the Greek god of medicine and healing... Google his name for more.

[Don't panic]

Asclepius was a Greek hero who later became the Greek god of medicine and healing... Google his name for more.

yeah, I know that, but is the association rhocolate/asclepius/bunny in a 1L becker/silly songs that makes no sense to me.

unless of course the point is just NOT to make any sense

[watcher2001]

Well all the clues that everyone has been finding are now mainstream news.

Front page yahoo

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz_log/entry/2005/10/12/0300/

[atszyman]

The Morse code has changed at bigspaceship1.com. Now it says "NARVIK FOR LIFE".

There's a connection. In Season 2 Episode 3 of Lost, you briefly see City Hall in Narvik, Norway. But I see no polar bears in this photo.

http://www.narvikinfo.no/bildearkiv/Narvikdowntown/Untitled_018.jpg

No polar bears, but that fountain definitely looks familiar, a lot like a certain logo we keep obsessing over....

[Don't panic]

No polar bears, but that fountain definitely looks familiar, a lot like a certain logo we keep obsessing over....

haha. Sad part: i thought that too.

by the way, the www.bigspaceship1.com site is back to the bears flash.
same 'code', but the title is slightly different...

[watcher2001]

haha. Sad part: i thought that too.

by the way, the www.bigspaceship1.com site is back to the bears flash.
same 'code', but the title is slightly different...

Changed again. Here is what I see.


How odd. It is playing the song, "I wish upon a sattelite" (Chipmunk speed) and as the song ended it automatically launched phobos and pulled up the song in iTunes.

[joepunk]

Changed again. Here is what I see.


How odd. It is playing the song, "I wish upon a sattelite" (Chipmunk speed) and as the song ended it automatically launched phobos and pulled up the song in iTunes.
Now the morse code, to the best of my understanding, says "be positive think negative"

[pdpfilms]

Now the morse code, to the best of my understanding, says "be positive think negative"

I am almost positive these messages and images are completely unrelated, and designed merely to set us all off track.

[Don't panic]

I am almost positive these messages and images are completely unrelated, and designed merely to set us all off track.

:D very possible, however, again the morse codes says
"se positive, think negative" (not "be positive"), another error!

so far, the ones i've seen

pear for bear
rhocolate for chocolate
se for be

p.s. the song is significantly better in the "chipmunk" version :D

[watcher2001]

:D very possible, however, again the morse codes says
"se positive, think negative" (not "be positive"), another error!



Actually it is Be positive. If you look in the source for the page the 1st letter is -... Dash dot dot dot which is morse for the letter B.

No errors here.

[Don't panic]

Actually it is Be positive. If you look in the source for the page the 1st letter is -... Dash dot dot dot which is morse for the letter B.

No errors here.

:o uops. you're right. I stand corrected.

<puts back on thinking cap>

[watcher2001]

Not sure if this is posted or not. On the last episode towards the end Hurley mentioned that there was enough food for One person for 30 days. Would one surmise from this that Desmond was about to be done with his duties, or is there a resupply of some kind?

[pdpfilms]

Not sure if this is posted or not. On the last episode towards the end Hurley mentioned that there was enough food for One person for 30 days. Would one surmise from this that Desmond was about to be done with his duties, or is there a resupply of some kind?

Good point....

[Doctor Q]

Hurley mentioned that there was enough food for One person for 30 days.If Hurley was judging by his own natural eating habits instead of for an average person, it might have been a 90-day supply for Desmond.

[pdpfilms]

If Hurley was judging by his own natural eating habits instead of for an average person, it might have been a 90-day supply for Desmond.

Still, that's quite an insignificant amount of time in relation to a multiple-year stay on the island.

[evoluzione]

i believe hurley said "three meals a day, for about thirty days" or something to that effect. 108 meals at 1 a day maybe?

[MongoTheGeek]

If Hurley was judging by his own natural eating habits instead of for an average person, it might have been a 90-day supply for Desmond.

I was pondering something. Could it be that he is getting restocked somehow. A pod lands with food in it. Most of the stuff would have gone bad after 30 years. Fats break down etc.

[pdpfilms]

I was pondering something. Could it be that he is getting restocked somehow. A pod lands with food in it. Most of the stuff would have gone bad after 30 years. Fats break down etc.

Yeah, but all of that stuff looked relatively aged. And hurley did read off the name of that salad dressing... "Dharma initiative ranch composite" or something like that... hinting at the food being preserved, designed to be kept down there.

[skubish]

Anybody notice that there is a pattern to the Dharma logo?
http://thedharmainitiative.info

[clayj]

It certainly seems as if Desmond was to be relieved within 90 days or so... which would equate to roughly 3 seasons of shows, if things continue as they have.

So we can probably look forward to some sort of MAJOR happening around the end of the 4th season (assuming the show makes it that far).

[evoluzione]

Anybody notice that there is a pattern to the Dharma logo?
http://thedharmainitiative.info


yes, as i mentioned a ton of pages back, it's based on a feng shui compass

[yellow]

Anybody notice that there is a pattern to the Dharma logo?
http://thedharmainitiative.info

This weekend I got an HD satallite and reciever for my new HDTV. This morning before heading to work I was watching Discovery HD Theater and Xtreme Martia Arts was on. I noticed that on the set, on the floor, was the exact same logo as the Dharma Initiative (sans interior design). You can see it if you go to:

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/xma/video/video.html

And choose the Demonstration: Twin Broad Sword

There's no particular meaning here, but I found it interesting none-the-less.

[watcher2001]

yes, as i mentioned a ton of pages back, it's based on a feng shui compass

I missed that post the first time .. interesting.. I did a little research on the feng shui compass and found this:

The numerical values of the eight compass directions for Feng Shui.

* Northeast: 22.5-67.5
* East: 67.5-112.5
* Southeast: 112.5-157.5
* South: 157.5-202.5
* Southwest: 202.5-247.5
* West: 247.5-292.5
* Northwest: 292.2-337.5
* North: 337.5-22.5

Now I am not a math wiz by any shot but if there are any out there (Doc) you may find some connection to the number 108.

[watcher2001]

Not sure how many people on the forums are from states that carry the multistate powerball lottery so this will not apply to all.

For Wednesdays drawing the powerball jackpot is going to be 340 million dollars. Not sure if this is the largest lottery jackpot ever but it is the largest powerball jackpot ever. My question is this.

Is anyone going to play, and if so will you pick the numbers
4 8 15 16 23 42

I just wonder how many people are playing these numbers in various lotteries across the US.

Edit: If you won with these numbers would you freak out and be ultra scared??

[Don't panic]

in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni

[MongoTheGeek]

Is anyone going to play, and if so will you pick the numbers
4 8 15 16 23 42

I just wonder how many people are playing these numbers in various lotteries across the US.

Edit: If you won with these numbers would you freak out and be ultra scared??

I will probably grab a ticket or two.
I won't play those numbers. If it hits, the payout will be very very small.

I had a database of powerball numbers with probabilities. I pitched it after they changed the ball count. 42 and 23 were good numbers. 8 I think was a bad one. Hard to remember.

If I one I might avoid flying from Sydney to LA. On the other hand I might just seek out such a flight.

[Lyle]

If I won I might avoid flying from Sydney to LA. On the other hand I might just seek out such a flight.For me, it would depend heavily on whether or not Maggie Grace was onboard that flight. :D

[Don't panic]

anyone has nay comment on the different DHARMA logo seen in the 'other' station? (looks like an arrow)
does this establish that each different station has a different logo?
are the 'real' others just previous ship/plane wrecks?

[clayj]

Here's one possible significance of the number 108... for a particular regular (radially-symmetrical) polygon, all of its interior angles (the angle between any two sides at a vertex) are 108° each.

The shape? A Pentagon.

[pdpfilms]

anyone has nay comment on the different DHARMA logo seen in the 'other' station? (looks like an arrow)
does this establish that each different station has a different logo?
are the 'real' others just previous ship/plane wrecks?

I'm pretty sure this confirms that there are other, differently logo'ed stations as well. (It was also made pretty clear in the orientation film that they had found the "swan station", implying there were other stations as well).

As for your other question, we don't yet know who the "Others" are, and how they came to be on the island. One theory is that the people who took Walt from the raft (likely Rousseau's "others") are scientists associated with the DHARMA initiative. Screencaps from various episodes compare the individuals in the orientation film with the people on the boat, and they seem to be the same actors. Again, this is just a theory.

I'll see if i can find those comparison pictures...

EDIT: Here we go.
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32828&stc=1
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32826&stc=1
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32827&stc=1

[Don't panic]

As for your other question, we don't yet know who the "Others" are, and how they came to be on the island. One theory is that the people who took Walt from the raft (likely Rousseau's "others") are scientists associated with the DHARMA initiative. Screencaps from various episodes compare the individuals in the orientation film with the people on the boat, and they seem to be the same actors. Again, this is just a theory.

I'll see if i can find those comparison pictures...

EDIT: Here we go.


you definitively seem to onto something here :)
they do look like the same people: are they actually credited to the same actors?

[yellow]

are they actually credited to the same actors?

I would hope the writers/directors/producers wouldn't do something that stupid. They create so much mystery and intrigue, only to give it away with something like credits? Say it ain't so!

I agree though, I think you are on to something there, pdp. Good one.

[applekid]

Want a better significance for the number 108?

This happened all just right now: My grandma is Buddhist. I noticed her long string of beads that she was moving one by one and mentioned something about it. She then asked if I knew how many beads were on it. I replied that I didn't know. She then said 108. Thinking "Lost" I had to know the significance of 108, and so I asked her. She replied it's the 108 delusions of the human in Buddhist teachings... Google it and tell me what you find out :D

Knowing how this show is showing a relation to religion and such, I think the religion to be focused on is Buddhism or Hinduism because a quick Google search shows me there's 108 names for each Hindu god and I have given a Buddhist meaning.

[pdpfilms]

Want a better significance for the number 108?

This happened all just right now: My grandma is Buddhist. I noticed her long string of beads that she was moving one by one and mentioned something about it. She then asked if I knew how many beads were on it. I replied that I didn't know. She then said 108. Thinking "Lost" I had to know the significance of 108, and so I asked her. She replied it's the 108 delusions of the human in Buddhist teachings... Google it and tell me what you find out :D

Knowing how this show is showing a relation to religion and such, I think the religion to be focused on is Buddhism or Hinduism because a quick Google search shows me there's 108 names for each Hindu god and I have given a Buddhist meaning.

Which goes along quite nicely with the concept of dharma and its buddhist roots....

[yellow]

Nice one, applekid!! I can't wait for tonight's episode. Do we catch a glimpse of the "Others"? Or do we catch a glimpse o their feet? Knowing "Lost", we'll only see their feet. :)

[clayj]

Interesting trivia about tonight's episode... some of the interior scenes were filmed in a house on Diamond Head that belongs to some family friends of mine... my parents met them when we lived in Hawai'i, and we've remained friends to this day.

[pdpfilms]

Reminder to all East Coasters....

Some of us have to wait 3 hours to see the episode. Please be considerate!

Thank you much.

(Don't be afraid to speculate, just don't reveal too much!)

[Jomoma]

Thanks for the warning, it's hard to remember about those poor, unfortunate people that have to wait 3 hours to watch the good shows...
At the end it talked about the next episode being in three weeks. What's that about? Does ABC have the world series or something? Three weeks is a long time, wonder if they'll keep us busy with new fake websites and other crazy hints...

[pdpfilms]

Thanks for the warning, it's hard to remember about those poor, unfortunate people that have to wait 3 hours to watch the good shows...
At the end it talked about the next episode being in three weeks. What's that about? Does ABC have the world series or something? Three weeks is a long time, wonder if they'll keep us busy with new fake websites and other crazy hints...

Yeah, it sucks alot. But it's almost nine here, so i can't complain....

And yeah, ABC is running reruns already. Gosh darnit.

[dejo]

At the end it talked about the next episode being in three weeks. What's that about?

Maybe they're saving the good episodes for November sweeps...

[emw]

At the end it talked about the next episode being in three weeks. What's that about? Does ABC have the world series or something? Three weeks is a long time, wonder if they'll keep us busy with new fake websites and other crazy hints...I think they just don't want to go against the World Series on Fox.

[3rdpath]

i know who dies...i know who dies...

[pdpfilms]

That episode was horrible.

Maybe I'm just in a pissy mood, but they need to start answering at least some questions.

For example:

Who are the others.
What is the real purpose of the hatch.
What is the Dharma initiative, or better yet,
What is the Hanso Foundation.
What happens if one does not enter the numbers.
Where is Desmond.
Why did the plane go down, or how.
What is it about Locke that allows him to know more.
What is so special about Walt.
What is the significance of the numbers.
Where (or when) is the island.
What really happened to Rousseau and her crew.
Why did the hatch say "QUARANTINE".
Did Rousseau's crew really get 'sick'?
Where did Ethan come from?
Why was he so unbelieveably strong?
What does he want with Claire's baby?
What did the psychic see in Claire's future?
Where did the Polar bears come from?
What is the "defense system"?
Is it associated with the hatch?
What made Locke regain the use of his legs?
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ALL THIS?????

(P.S. please feel free to add your own questions on.. lets see how many unanswered mysteries there are.)

[watcher2001]

That episode was horrible.

Maybe I'm just in a pissy mood, but they need to start answering at least some questions.

For example:

Who are the others.
What is the real purpose of the hatch.
What is the Dharma initiative, or better yet,
What is the Hanso Foundation.
What happens if one does not enter the numbers.
Where is Desmond.
Why did the plane go down, or how.
What is it about Locke that allows him to know more.
What is so special about Walt.
What is the significance of the numbers.
Where (or when) is the island.
What really happened to Rousseau and her crew.
Why did the hatch say "QUARANTINE".
Did Rousseau's crew really get 'sick'?
Where did Ethan come from?
Why was he so unbelieveably strong?
What does he want with Claire's baby?
What did the psychic see in Claire's future?
Where did the Polar bears come from?
What is the "defense system"?
Is it associated with the hatch?
What made Locke regain the use of his legs?
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ALL THIS?????

(P.S. please feel free to add your own questions on.. lets see how many unanswered mysteries there are.)

It would probably be easier to list the questions that have been answered. I agree that this was a less than stellar episode. I was surprised, as was my wife, that they did not mention the hatch once.. not once... Who was pushing the button???

[rickvanr]

I think they just don't want to go against the World Series on Fox.

I hate baseball. 5 hours of uninspiring TV. It's one thing when they bump their own shows on Fox, such as Arrested Development, Prison Break, and House. But now they aren't going to show Lost for a few weeks because of it.

It was a rather blah episode tonight though. Nothing much happened.

[rickvanr]

Spoiler::

The numbers are: coordinates for a location in the south pacific

linky; click here for photo (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=477432749f47113551o7sv.jpg)

[joepunk]

How did the Black Rock get so far inland?
Is Jin's (sp?) father-in-law associated in someway with the Dharma project?
Is there really a sickness?
Who were the people who were buried in cave?
What is with the black and white symbolism's? (those little polished rocks from the buried people, the backgammon, etc...)
Will Kate hook up with Sawyer or Jack?
Will Michael get Walt back?
What happens if you don't execute the numbers?
Will the numbers work with the upcoming lotto? :p

[joepunk]

Spoiler::

The numbers are: coordinates for a location in the south pacific

linky; click here for photo (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=477432749f47113551o7sv.jpg)I saw that on another lost thread on another website and was going to put it but forgot. School projects and all. Great find though non-the-less (sp?)

[watcher2001]

Spoiler::

The numbers are: coordinates for a location in the south pacific

linky; click here for photo (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=477432749f47113551o7sv.jpg)

Actually pulled that up on google earth and attached is what you see. just water.. No island.. The island to the north east of the coordinates is, as far as I can tell, is Kosrae, a province of the federated states of micronesia. More info here.
link (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fm.html)

Looks to be at least semi populated and close to shipping lanes. Although the numbers can be represented as coordinates, and those coordinates are between Sydney and LA I think this is a reach. JMHO

[yellow]

I can't wait for tonight's episode. Do we catch a glimpse of the "Others"? Or do we catch a glimpse o their feet? Knowing "Lost", we'll only see their feet. :)

Hmm.. perhaps this show is starting to become too predictable? All we saw were feet. And a teddy (bear, you pervs). And when Sun lost her ring? I looked at my wife and said, it's with the bottle she buried. Yes, they're minor, but this episode was.. mediocre (IMO).

EDIT: I see I wasn't the only one that didn't think it measured up.

Though I like Mr. Echo's character. One thing I thought was Jin sure understood a lot more English all of a sudden.

[watcher2001]

One thing I thought was Jin sure understood a lot more English all of a sudden.

Good, I thought it was just me.. I keep telling my wife that there is more there than we know.. I thought they were going to reveal it last week (that Jin speaks english) but it all turned out to be a dream.

[evoluzione]

Spoiler::

The numbers are: coordinates for a location in the south pacific

linky; click here for photo (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=477432749f47113551o7sv.jpg)



i think that was suggested in one of the very first pages of this thread (well, as soon as we knew about the numbers)....but i sure ain't gonna look for the post!

[evoluzione]

oh, and yeah, a "so-so" episode.

hah, just realised my sig, such a shame it's not another cryptic Lost reference.

[clayj]

One thing I thought was Jin sure understood a lot more English all of a sudden.I imagine that when you're sailing on a raft, or when you're sitting in a pit, you might try teaching each other your language whe the story isn't focused on you constantly. I'm not at all surprised that Jin is picking up more English... they've been on the island what, 50 or so days now?

[yellow]

I imagine that when you're sailing on a raft, or when you're sitting in a pit, you might try teaching each other your language whe the story isn't focused on you constantly. I'm not at all surprised that Jin is picking up more English... they've been on the island what, 50 or so days now?


Sorry, I wasn't being clear.. I realize that he should learn more English as they spend time together. I just mean that there's been a HUGE leap between even this episode and last episode. I mean, Jin pretty much understood everything that Echo was saying to him. Where on the raft 4 days earlier, he got a list of common nautical English phrases translated to Korean from his wife as a crash course in English.

[Lacero]

I like this episode.

The backstory of Sun and Jin was very interesting. I like how they portray Jin's character in the back story; makes you understand him better. He was portrayed as a real douchebag in the previous episodes, so much so I wanted to strangle him.

Any thoughts about revealing what happened to the pregnant girl after her mysterious abduction? That missing plot point might be explosive when revealed.. ohh.. :p

[atszyman]

This episode suffers from 3 problems.

1. It's a US TV show, our citizens watch TV so they don't have to read! What's with all the subtitles? (I'm only half kidding here)

2. We don't know of the connections between everyone else and the Kwons, mostly due to #3.

3. The Kwons hang in the background for most episodes and don't seem as involved with the other crash survivors (Every episode has to hit Jack, Locke, Kate, Sawer, Michael, and Hurley at minimum then comes Sayid, and Charlie. The Kwons, Shannon, and Claire are not played up as main characters much, and Rose is even further down).

[stonyc]

Uh, I liked this episode alot too.

The back-story on Jin was great... it showed him as principled and... nice. Before everything got screwed up by Sun's father.

Yes, Sun finding her ring where she buried the message bottle was predictable... but what more do you want? Locke to come up to Sun and say "Oh, hey... I found this while walking out in miles and miles of dense jungle foliage!". Just because it's predictable doesn't make a bad plot device... ever think that it's "predictable" because it's the only outcome that makes sense? Never mind the symbolic meaning behind her finding it with the message bottle (eg. burying it and accepting that he's dead, versus finding or re-finding her hope?).

I also liked especially the sequence with the Others' legs because it reminded me almost immediately about the Lost Boys in Peter Pan (particularly the Other carrying the teddy bear)... though in a totally skewed way from the original.

I also thought seeing those Others walking took something away from their "other-wordly" aura... I mean, first we have Ethan (presumably an Other) with superhuman strength... then Mr. Eko (?), Adewale's character, talking about how they don't leave tracks... seeing them walking, it almost seemed to me like they had learned/adapted how to walk without leaving tracks, rather than some sort of mystical quality about them.

[3rdpath]

I also liked especially the sequence with the Others' legs because it reminded me almost immediately about the Lost Boys in Peter Pan (particularly the Other carrying the teddy bear)... though in a totally skewed way from the original.

funny you should mention peter pan...

about 2 weeks ago i was reading peter pan to my daughter and noticed the picture of the island inside the back cover. the old schooner, the underground room, the smoke signals...all those things were very reminiscent of Lost. I also found the story line about the clock inside the crocodile similar to the clock that has to be reset inside the hatch...as long as it ticks, capt. hook feels safe because he knows where the croc is. I believe he says something to the effect of "fearing when the clock stops because then he will die".

of course, i guess the comparisons are easy to make...you can see what you want to see. but still...

[rickvanr]

Where are you people getting that Ethan had 'super human' strength? Sure he beat up Jack the first time, but that could be because he's more adapt to the surroundings and such.

[m-dogg]

I also agree that her finding the ring near the burried bottle was predictable, but I didn't mind it. That's how that type of thing is in real life too - Hasn't anyone lost something and looked all over for it, only to realize that it's been in an obvious place all along? You find it and say "that was obvious - why didn't I check there first?"

[stonyc]

Where are you people getting that Ethan had 'super human' strength? Sure he beat up Jack the first time, but that could be because he's more adapt to the surroundings and such.When they were fighting, Ethan at one point choked Jack by picking him up by the neck, with his feet noticeably dangling in the air.

Ethan didn't "look" particularly more buff than Jack, so lifting a person of similar weight/build off of the ground and choking them, while they're struggling to free themselves and fight back... you'd have to be pretty darn strong and not just more adapted to the environment.

EDIT: If I remember the sequence correctly... it's been awhile since I saw the first season DVD's. ;)

[rickvanr]

When they were fighting, Ethan at one point choked Jack by picking him up by the neck, with his feet noticeably dangling in the air.

Ethan didn't "look" particularly more buff than Jack, so lifting a person of similar weight/build off of the ground and choking them, while they're struggling to free themselves and fight back... you'd have to be pretty darn strong and not just more adapted to the environment.

EDIT: If I remember the sequence correctly... it's been awhile since I saw the first season DVD's. ;)

Adrenaline? The second time they got into a scuffle Jack handed it to him.

[plinden]

Where are you people getting that Ethan had 'super human' strength? Sure he beat up Jack the first time, but that could be because he's more adapt to the surroundings and such.
He was able to make off with both Claire and Charlie on his own, and somehow managed to hang him off a tree branch while making sure Claire didn't escape.

He beat the ***** out of Jack without breaking into a sweat. No matter how much adrenaline you have, you won't be able to pick someone your own size up by the neck.

Jack took him by surprise the second time, but even given that, when I watched that episode, I was asking myself how Jack was able to match him. Just a flaw in the story as far as I'm concerned.

[stonyc]

Adrenaline? The second time they got into a scuffle Jack handed it to him.Winning a fight in of itself isn't entirely based off of strength. The first time, Ethan had the jump on Jack.. the second time, it was reversed. I'm talking just about the brute strength it takes to lift someone like that... you have to remember also that the first fight took place after both had been running through the jungle overnight. AND Ethan was also dragging/carrying/coercing Charlie and Claire with him (and if I remember correctly, he strung Charlie up to hang him).

I'm still voting for super-strength here (or at least augmented strength).

[johnny mercury]

Clues
1. They (others?) don't leave tracks = They fly like the Lost Boys
2. The others happen to be kids = like the Lost Boys
3. The others (from the raft incident) are Pirates who hate and take kids.
4. They live on an island like Neverland that is magical and off the map, where Oceanic flight 815 has seemed to be, lost.
5. The others hate adults by the obvious fear of the passengers of flight 815's back (dead body found)
6. Walt appears to be important and has gifts due to his mind power and imagination like the Lost Boys and children in Neverland.
7. ABC is owned by Disney

I dig it if true. I was one of the people okay with it all being purgatory, but a neverland rift is just as cool.

Character to die: Shannon
She is believed to bite the dust via Walt and Sayid in rumors.

[stonyc]

Huge, huge, huge... did I say huge? spoilers here...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/board/nest/28063670

Take them with a grain of salt, but in any case, don't click if you don't want to know. You've been warned. :)

[Don't panic]

Clues
1. They (others?) don't leave tracks = They fly like the Lost Boys
2. The others happen to be kids = like the Lost Boys
3. The others (from the raft incident) are Pirates who hate and take kids.
4. They live on an island like Neverland that is magical and off the map, where Oceanic flight 815 has seemed to be, lost.
5. The others hate adults by the obvious fear of the passengers of flight 815's back (dead body found)
6. Walt appears to be important and has gifts due to his mind power and imagination like the Lost Boys and children in Neverland.
7. ABC is owned by Disney

I dig it if true. I was one of the people okay with it all being purgatory, but a neverland rift is just as cool.


does that mean that the zombies are from the Thriller video?




edit: in Brighton there is a Black Rock beach next to a Peter Pan's Playground...

[rickvanr]

There is a Black Rock somewhere in Maryland or Virginia also. O.A.R. wrote a song about it called Black Rock, and when I was down in the Virginia/ DC/ Maryland area I saw a sign for Black Rock off the highway. It may have been a road, I don't remember exactly.

But yah... new episode tomorrow night, yay!

In related Lost news, I was flipping threw channels and I just saw an ad for Live Links on Much Music starring Evangeline Lilly. I had heard about it before, but I assumed it was old. Guess not.

[pdpfilms]

But yah... new episode tomorrow night, yay!

I'm almost positive it's a rerun of the episode "Orientation".

[rickvanr]

I'm almost positive it's a rerun of the episode "Orientation".

poo, you're right. Nov 9th. I knew that.

[xli_ne]

just watched the entire first season on dvd for the past 2 weeks. wow, what a rush. got about 5 more to watch till i'm competely caught up with season 2.

[watcher2001]

Less than 24 hours... Woo Hoo.. I cannot wait... Who do you think is going to be "Lost" forever?

[pdpfilms]

Less than 24 hours... Woo Hoo.. I cannot wait... Who do you think is going to be "Lost" forever?
I know, so i'm not going to guess.

[watcher2001]

I know, so i'm not going to guess.


Wait a minute.. You know?? as in you know who gets "Lost" forever.. How do you know this?

[pdpfilms]

Wait a minute.. You know?? as in you know who gets "Lost" forever.. How do you know this?
Yeah, i read it on some other Lost forum... lost-tv.com i believe.

[watcher2001]

Yeah, i read it on some other Lost forum... lost-tv.com i believe.
Interesting.. I generally try to stay away from spoiler sites as they usually turn out to be wrong at least 45% of the time.. Is that one pretty accurate so far?

[pdpfilms]

Interesting.. I generally try to stay away from spoiler sites as they usually turn out to be wrong at least 45% of the time.. Is that one pretty accurate so far?
Yeah, depending on how intelligent you are at weeding out the clearly false ones.

[stonyc]

Yeah, depending on how intelligent you are at weeding out the clearly false ones.If he's been reading the same stuff I have, then yes it's been pretty spot on.

[GorillaPaws]

Waiting from week to week is bad enough, this 3 week wait has been killing me not to mention it's total BS. I guess I'm just cranky because they've got me hooked (lined and sinkered); they know it, and they'll continue to abuse me for their sweeps-week ratings. The sad part is I know this and I'll still watch it-- I feel like a heroin junky, gimme MORE.

Anyways, we think we know who's gonna get the ax this week. Do we think we're going to find out any more about the others? Maybe even see more than their feet this time-- which was interesting by the way. Aparently the frame loops and shows the same feet over again-- I heard that on the Transmission lostcast. It could just be an editing thing, but JJ has said that there are no mistakes or something like that so maybe there is something weird/supernatural going on here. I also like the Neverland thing that's been batted around the web. It's kind of cool using the twisted fairytale motif, this being from Disney and all.

[andysmith]

I really hope it isn't the person that's rumoured - not that I particularly like that character, but I would love a really huge surprise.

Not long to wait now! :D:D

[clayj]

Dunno if you noticed, but in the teaser when they say "One of these survivors will be lost forever" (or whatever), not everyone that's shown is a series regular... and the voice that you hear (a woman) is DEFINITELY not a series regular. (If I'm right, I'll post their name here later...)

DON'T FORGET! No spoiler posts until after 1 AM ET please! (West Coasties might want to stay out of this thread until then, just in case...)

[rickvanr]

I really hope it isn't the person that's rumoured - not that I particularly like that character, but I would love a really huge surprise.

Not long to wait now! :D:D

It would kind of make sense if you think about it, every character that has had a vision of death then dies.

[pdpfilms]

It would kind of make sense if you think about it, every character that has had a vision of death then dies.
I don't think ethan had any visions of death. Or the air marshall... but boone certainly did, you got that one.

[rickvanr]

I don't think ethan had any visions of death. Or the air marshall... but boone certainly did, you got that one.

I meant people who were on the plane, and didn't die from events resulting from the crash.

[pdpfilms]

I meant people who were on the plane, and didn't die from events resulting from the crash.
Yeah, i gotcha. Sorry, i just realized that was a very *******aholic comment. My appologies.

[xli_ne]

Yeah, i gotcha. Sorry, i just realized that was a very *******aholic comment. My appologies.


jeez c'mon man. jk.

anywho i also read on who the "death might be." i need to stay away from the spoilers sites.

[rickvanr]

Woah. Stellar episode. I'll keep quite for the west coasters.

I will say if only he/she listened.

[jsw]

Man, oh man.

And the next episode looks even better.

[clayj]

<vague, ominous comment>

Oh, dear. This is going to be awkward.

</vague, ominous comment>

[gadfly]

cool episode. this is the reason I love this show. great characters cool stories and michelle rodriguez is hot

[GorillaPaws]

Ok, so west coasters should've seen the show by now. I guess it's cool to let the cat out of the bag....




I know this is going to sound weird but I'm actually glad they made me like Shannon before they decided to kill her off. I actually felt bad when she died, as opposed to Boone, who I could care less about (he just kind of creeped me out w/ the whole sister infatuation). Shannon, on the other hand annoyed me for the past season and this one so far, that is until they showed us why she was the way she was.

The other interesting thing was w/ Walt. Apparently he's not just some figment of Shannon's imagination/hallucination. Creepy. Who's got some thoughts/theories about what's going on w/ him and his backwards giberish? (The next update of iTunes should have reverse audio playback just for Lost episodes :) ).



....Cat back in the bag.
Anyways, I'm definetly looking foreward to next week's extended episode ( just hope it's not 42minutes of Lost and 1h 18m or comercials-- that would suck).

[Lacero]

No spoilers here. Stupid headline in My Yahoo did it for me. :mad:

Ah well, haven't seen Lost yet. Who's going to take care of the dog?

No more Shannon. I will go cry into my pillow now.

[GorillaPaws]

No spoilers here

Sorry, I didn't think it was considered a spoiler since it's now aired on both coasts... I did try to give an indication/space it out for those who hadn't seen it yet. I guess I'm wondering when an appropriate time is to discuss the current week's episode is?

[rickvanr]

Sorry, I didn't think it was considered a spoiler since it's now aired on both coasts... I did try to give an indication/space it out for those who hadn't seen it yet. I guess I'm wondering when an appropriate time is to discuss the current week's episode is?

I think she meant it wasn't a spoiler to her, as she already read it on Yahoo.

Anyways, I was a little disappointed how Shannon bit the dust. It just seemed so unoriginal, but it was somewhat surprising. Walt is officially creepy now though.

[rdowns]

Anyways, I'm definetly looking foreward to next week's extended episode ( just hope it's not 42minutes of Lost and 1h 18m or comercials-- that would suck).

What extended episode? My Tivo and TV Guide list it as an hour.

[russed]

you all feel hard done by, over in the UK we are only on episode 13 from the first series! its a good job then i'm upto date with the US!

Lost is such an awesome and if the rumors are true that there are going to be 6 series that will we brilliant!

[stonyc]

(The next update of iTunes should have reverse audio playback just for Lost episodes :) ).My wife and I both thought the disembodied voices and Walt's sounded like they were backwards. I'm too lazy though to sample the audio and listen to it backwards, though. :)

Agree also with others about liking Shannon (now)... I guess I can remotely understand the reasoning behind her Step-mom doing what she did, but still that was pretty damn harsh. I mean it'd be one thing if she were just loafing around like the step-mom originally thought she would be doing... but when she has an internship or whatever that prestigious, at that point you kind of gotta think she's serious about it, right? Oh well.

Yep, awkward moments here we come. :)

[Lyle]

The other interesting thing was w/ Walt. Apparently he's not just some figment of Shannon's imagination/hallucination...OK, now, I was wondering about this shortly after the show ended last night and couldn't remember for sure. Are we absolutely certain that Sayid saw Walt, too? I know that during that final scene, he was looking in the same direction as Shannon was, but did he actually say anything to let us know that he also saw Walt (e.g. saying, "What the crap! There's Walt!")?

I guess I'm still not sure that Shannon wasn't hallucinating.

[Dandaman]

My wife and I both thought the disembodied voices and Walt's sounded like they were backwards. I'm too lazy though to sample the audio and listen to it backwards, though. :)


I heard on a radio show that played it in reverse:

"They're coming and they're close."

daniel

[xli_ne]

cool episode. this is the reason I love this show. great characters cool stories and michelle rodriguez is hot

she is kinda hot, but man... does she play the "bitch" role perfectly everytime she has to in a movie or on this show.

[technocoy]

she's dying, but not dead for sure yet, so is sawyer. and from the looks of it sayid may be getting ready to kill rodriguez' character... lol. This show is so damn addicting. I didn't think i could like it better than 24, but it's getting there on the fast train. ha.

[stonyc]

she's dying, but not dead for sure yet, so is sawyer. and from the looks of it sayid may be getting ready to kill rodriguez' character... lol. This show is so damn addicting. I didn't think i could like it better than 24, but it's getting there on the fast train. ha.Did anyone hear a gunshot? I remember thunder or lightning... but I don't remember an actual gunshot. Guess I'll have to watch that part again... but who's to say that Ana Lucia actually shot Shannon? I have my doubts, just from the look on her face... I don't know... :confused:

[atszyman]

OK, now, I was wondering about this shortly after the show ended last night and couldn't remember for sure. Are we absolutely certain that Sayid saw Walt, too? I know that during that final scene, he was looking in the same direction as Shannon was, but did he actually say anything to let us know that he also saw Walt (e.g. saying, "What the crap! There's Walt!")?

I guess I'm still not sure that Shannon wasn't hallucinating.

I'm pretty sure that Sayid did not see Walt. The way it was cut made me believe that Sayid was saying he saw to keep Shannon from running away.

I don't remember exactly how it went but it was something like

Walt in the shrubbery, cut to Shannon who asks "Do you see him?", show the empty shrubbery, cut to Sayid who says "Yes", cut back to Walt in the shrubbery. Made me believe that Sayid did not see Walt but he did understand that Shannon was not dreaming. Sayid also knew that the only way to get Shannon to go back to the beach would be to agree with her.

[GorillaPaws]

but who's to say that Ana Lucia actually shot Shannon? I have my doubts, just from the look on her face... I don't know... :confused:

I think it's still technically up in the air but someone mentioned on another forum about how the gun she was holding had something (don't know what it's called) opened on it (I don't know much about guns), anyways aparently this happens when a semi-automatic pistol has fired its last round (Ana Lucia only had the 1 bullet-- from Saywer saving the one on the raft), so there's a very good chance that she pulled the trigger. Some w/ gun knowledge, please explain what I'm trying to say.

Good point about Shannon not necessarily being dead yet. We never actually saw her die (Maybe Jack can save her? Sawyer too? or will he have to choose between them like he did w/ his ex-wife and Shannon's dad?)

As for Sayed seeing/not seeing Walt, I guess that's also still up in the air, but he gave a very convincing performance if he was just trying to calm down Shannon (he fooled me). Assuming he did see Walt, does that mean he's a ghost? Some sort of mental projection (this seems kind of weird/hard to believe to me)? What do you guys think?

[joepunk]

Here's a thought that I had during the show. Does the other castaways/lost characters have a spy like Ethan within their group? I was thinking of the blonde psychology lady. Don't really know why I think that but then I am pretty addicted to the show anyway.

[rickvanr]

Walt: Shhhh! backward giberish...
Shannon (to Sayid): Don't you see him
Sayid: (nods yes)
Shannon: (runs towards Walt)


So long story short, Sayid acknowledged seeing Walt.

I think it's still technically up in the air but someone mentioned on another forum about how the gun she was holding had something (don't know what it's called) opened on it (I don't know much about guns), anyways aparently this happens when a semi-automatic pistol has fired its last round (Ana Lucia only had the 1 bullet-- from Saywer saving the one on the raft), so there's a very good chance that she pulled the trigger. Some w/ gun knowledge, please explain what I'm trying to say.

Yep, the gun looked open. I don't know anything about guns.. but in movies, when they are out of ammo they look like Ana's did last night.

[xli_ne]

another thing is that, on other lost forums, people have pics of the wound on shannon and it doesn't look like a gunshot wound. More like a knife slash. So it could be that Ana Lucia shot (it was a shot, not lighting) missed and shannon died from another person.

[stonyc]

another thing is that, on other lost forums, people have pics of the wound on shannon and it doesn't look like a gunshot wound. More like a knife slash. So it could be that Ana Lucia shot (it was a shot, not lighting) missed and shannon died from another person.Hmm.. that sounds good too.

[Moof1904]

another thing is that, on other lost forums, people have pics of the wound on shannon and it doesn't look like a gunshot wound. More like a knife slash. So it could be that Ana Lucia shot (it was a shot, not lighting) missed and shannon died from another person.

The gun was locked open, indicating that the last round had, indeed been fired. As for Shannon's wound, it looked quite like a bullet wound. Many have the mistaken idea that a bullet entry wound is huge and gaping when, in fact, it's typically not much larger than the caliber of the bullet. A single knife wound to her stomach would at the point we saw her (moments after) have bled more than a bullet wound.

[rickvanr]

The gun was locked open, indicating that the last round had, indeed been fired. As for Shannon's wound, it looked quite like a bullet wound. Many have the mistaken idea that a bullet entry wound is huge and gaping when, in fact, it's typically not much larger than the caliber of the bullet. A single knife wound to her stomach would at the point we saw her (moments after) have bled more than a bullet wound.


If you slow it down it looks like a vertical gash.. about 6 inches high. Although, it could just be the space in between buttons on her shirt, it's hard to tell. I'm thinking it was a gun shot wound though.

[3rdpath]

I hate to be a buzzkill but I thought last night's episode was uninspired.

Too many unanswered questions about the hatch( like, why aren't they in it, why aren't they trying to use it to get off the island, etc), the heavyhanded attempts to make an antogonistic relationship between Locke and Charlie, Shannon's sudden transformation into a concerned caring individual, (ntm, way too much backstory on Shannon), and the overhyped unlikeable character played by Michelle Rodriguez, etc, etc...

I found myself asking " I waited three weeks for this?"...

[XIII]

Didn't see Jack at all this episode. And I reckon both Shannon and Sawyer will die. :)

Aww, that sucks. Just as shannon was turning nice. Also, yes, Sayid definately saw Walt.

Anyone have a link to a video of next week's preview? Its not included in my copies. :) Thanks

[stonyc]

Didn't see Jack at all this episode. And I reckon both Shannon and Sawyer will die. :)

Aww, that sucks. Just as shannon was turning nice. Also, yes, Sayid definately saw Walt.

Anyone have a link to a video of next week's preview? Its not included in my copies. :) ThanksJack was in the episode, in one of Shannon's first flashbacks. They were in the hospital in the hallway when the doctor is talking to her and the step-mom about her father and Jack rushes by.

[pdpfilms]

Jack was in the episode, in one of Shannon's first flashbacks. They were in the hospital in the hallway when the doctor is talking to her and the step-mom about her father and Jack rushes by.
I'm beginning to get turned off from Lost. Everything is connected somehow, yet they provide no explanations whatsoever about how or why. There must be some singificance that Jack's wife was in an accident with Shannon's father, that Locke may have worked in a facroty that Hurley owned. I think it's starting to show that the writers really don't have a clue where they're going, and are now straggling to throw in hooks to keep viewers. Dissappointing really, I was excited about this show.

[Lyle]

The gun was locked open, indicating that the last round had, indeed been fired...Just to clarify, I don't think anyone questions that Ana Lucia fired the gun, the question is who (or what) she was shooting at. Some of the speculation I've seen this morning (on other forums) is that Danielle Rousseau (the "French chick") stabbed Shannon, because she believes that Shannon has the sickness (the same sicknese that led Danielle to kill her other colleagues). Ana Lucia shot at Rousseau (possibly hitting her) and Sayid just hasn't seen her yet.

[stonyc]

I'm beginning to get turned off from Lost. Everything is connected somehow, yet they provide no explanations whatsoever about how or why. There must be some singificance that Jack's wife was in an accident with Shannon's father, that Locke may have worked in a facroty that Hurley owned. I think it's starting to show that the writers really don't have a clue where they're going, and are now straggling to throw in hooks to keep viewers. Dissappointing really, I was excited about this show.I think it shows that all of these people lost on the island are connected somehow and that (like Locke says) there's a specific reason why they are all there. That reason? No idea.. :)

[stonyc]

Just to clarify, I don't think anyone questions that Ana Lucia fired the gun, the question is who (or what) she was shooting at. Some of the speculation I've seen this morning (on other forums) is that Danielle Rousseau (the "French chick") stabbed Shannon, because she believes that Shannon has the sickness (the same sicknese that led Danielle to kill her other colleagues). Ana Lucia shot at Rousseau (possibly hitting her) and Sayid just hasn't seen her yet.Or Ana Lucia could have been shooting at an Other who had stabbed Shannon?

[yellow]

Good episode.. especially after the LAST episode (which wasn't so good).

However, no one technically "died" in this one. One disappeared, one passed out, and one got shot. But no one was confirmed "dead".

I'm just glad they left Miss Lilly out of it.. I'd stop watching if they killed her off. :)

[Lyle]

I'm beginning to get turned off from Lost. Everything is connected somehow, yet they provide no explanations whatsoever about how or why. There must be some singificance that Jack's wife was in an accident with Shannon's father, that Locke may have worked in a facroty that Hurley owned. I think it's starting to show that the writers really don't have a clue where they're going, and are now straggling to throw in hooks to keep viewers. Dissappointing really, I was excited about this show.Supposedly, there's a master plan for the first five seasons of the show. I think you're right that there is some significance to all of these connections between the characters, but the writers are just taking their time to explain the significance. We've already had one "payoff" in that area, in that Sawyer figured out that it was Jack's father that he'd met in the bar in Australia (and told Jack about what his father said). Unless Shannon isn't quite dead yet, I don't see how Jack's ever going to make the connection about that accident that killed Shannon's father, though.

[Lyle]

Or Ana Lucia could have been shooting at an Other who had stabbed Shannon?Sure, definitely. Stay tuned. ;)

[yellow]

I would also like to point this out...

I REALLY don't think Shannon is dead.. or at least that she will be killed immediately in the next episode. Why do I feel that way? What is the point of all the background they did on her during the episode if they're just going to kill her?

I'm pretty sure the chick that 'disappeared' is the one that gets 'lost'.

[xli_ne]

Just to clarify, I don't think anyone questions that Ana Lucia fired the gun, the question is who (or what) she was shooting at. Some of the speculation I've seen this morning (on other forums) is that Danielle Rousseau (the "French chick") stabbed Shannon, because she believes that Shannon has the sickness (the same sicknese that led Danielle to kill her other colleagues). Ana Lucia shot at Rousseau (possibly hitting her) and Sayid just hasn't seen her yet.


that one is reallllllllllly out there. who ever thought up that one has an imagination, but who knows, might be true. it is anyone's guess.

[atszyman]

I don't see how Jack's ever going to make the connection about that accident that killed Shannon's father, though.

That's easy. When everyone gets back to camp Jack is going to have to decide between Shannon and Sawyer. When he decides to save Sawyer (either because Shannon is too far gone or Sawyer is closer to death at that point) Shannon will die. At her funeral they will read her name a Shannon Rutheford which will trigger Jack's memory.

He will then go off on a heroin bender with Charlie...

Ok, maybe not that last part....

[solvs]

What is the point of all the background they did on her during the episode if they're just going to kill her?
Just to mess with our heads.

[yellow]

I hope not. Seriously I doubt it.. it seems most of what they've done so far had a point.. sure a convoluted one, but a point none-the-less. They COULDN'T just be using her back story as filler for an otherwise skinny episode, could they? Could they? :(

[GorillaPaws]

That's easy. When everyone gets back to camp Jack is going to have to decide between Shannon and Sawyer. When he decides to save Sawyer (either because Shannon is too far gone or Sawyer is closer to death at that point) Shannon will die. At her funeral they will read her name a Shannon Rutheford which will trigger Jack's memory...

I actually really like that one. The whole leaving the flashback connections undiscoverd didn't sit well with me. I guess they really can kill of Shannon for good now (if the writers want). I definetly think there'll be some sort of Jack having to choose between Sawyer and Shannon though, it's just the kind of stuff they'd throw in.

[solvs]

Could they? :(
See. It worked. ;)

[Don't panic]

Or Ana Lucia could have been shooting at an Other who had stabbed Shannon?
i don't have a tape, so I can't check, but I don't think they actually show that the two groups meet.
so there is also the possibility (admittedly not very likely) that the two events (Ana shooting and Shannon getting wounded) are simultaneous but unrelated.
In support of this view, it seems that the tailers group should take more than one day to reach the swan station group or they would have likely met already.
Also, shannon and sahid where yelling, but the tailers didn't hear them (just the whispers) and i'd guess mike would be responsive to hearing shout "walt".
As far as sahid and walt, it was purposely ambiguous, so it could be either way

[XIII]

i don't have a tape, so I can't check, but I don't think they actually show that the two groups meet.
so there is also the possibility (admittedly not very likely) that the two events (Ana shooting and Shannon getting wounded) are simultaneous but unrelated.
In support of this view, it seems that the tailers group should take more than one day to reach the swan station group or they would have likely met already.
Also, shannon and sahid where yelling, but the tailers didn't hear them (just the whispers) and i'd guess mike would be responsive to hearing shout "walt".
As far as sahid and walt, it was purposely ambiguous, so it could be either way

We do see the two groups together. Ana is holding the gun with that "Oh ****" look on her face, and Sayid is looking just SO mad at her. Also, Jin seems to recognise Sayid.. They definately meet.

[Don't panic]

We do see the two groups together. Ana is holding the gun with that "Oh ****" look on her face, and Sayid is looking just SO mad at her. Also, Jin seems to recognise Sayid.. They definately meet.

ok, i that case I stand corrected, I remembered them alternating the shot from one group to the other, but without them necessarily being in the same frame/situation. as i said, i don't have a tape so I couldn't check.

[emw]

i don't have a tape so I couldn't check.Well, you could always download it from ITMS ;)

Personally, I thought it was a pretty good episode. I'm looking forward to learning more about these Others, as well as what happens when the two "sections" meet. It may help that the Rose and Bernard will reunite, which could be used to bring the two sides together.

[yellow]

It may help that the Rose and Bernard will reunite, which could be used to bring the two sides together.

Cue romantic music! Cue running on the beach! :)

[emw]

Cue romantic music! Cue running on the beach! :)Cue "you need to take a shower before you think about touching me."

[watcher2001]

No spoilers here. Stupid headline in My Yahoo did it for me. :mad:

Ah well, haven't seen Lost yet. Who's going to take care of the dog?

No more Shannon. I will go cry into my pillow now.

What headline did you see. The one on mine just stated that

'Lost' Loses Another Main Character
and below that

AP - Seems the series has made good on its promise to kill off a lead player. Plus: Press "play" to see "Lost" stars slip-up in a bloopers reel.

Nothing specific about "Who" got killed off unless you actually clicked on the link. Also as I recall the previews never said that someone would die, just that they would be "Lost" forever. (The girl that went missing climbing the hill?)

As others have stated I think we are going to see Jack trying to deal with both Sawyer and Shannon and possibly having to make a decision. What I want to see is Jack stating something along the lines of "I wish I had something I could give them for pain" and then see Charlie or Locke whip out the heroin...

[Lacero]

What headline did you see..
The headline last night read: Spoiled Daddy's Girl Gets Killed on 'Lost'. <-- had to search my browser history.

I guess AP News/Yahoo got a lot of slack from Tivo users about revealing the spoiler inside the headline. Such idiot news writers. People, send hate mail to FRAZIER MOORE. :p

[russed]

i finally got around to watching the latest episode and it was brilliant!

how freaky is walt - watching it in a darkened room makes it so much more scary!!

and that new woman (ana i think) is SOOOOOOOO annoying!

[xli_ne]

Also as I recall the previews never said that someone would die, just that they would be "Lost" forever. (The girl that went missing climbing the hill?)

Well I think "lost" forever sounds better than, "someone is going to die, watch lost tonight" I"m pretty sure if she isn't died yet, she will.

[MongoTheGeek]

Well I think "lost" forever sounds better than, "someone is going to die, watch lost tonight" I"m pretty sure if she isn't died yet, she will.

Or it could just be that "lost forever" means that the person makes a commitment of some sort to stay on the island. :)

If you were Locke would you go home?

[yellow]

and that new woman (ana i think) is SOOOOOOOO annoying!

I thought I was the only one who thought that. I find her neither hot, nor compelling. I'm wondering what the back story will show to give us a reason why she's so bossy?

[stonyc]

I thought I was the only one who thought that. I find her neither hot, nor compelling. I'm wondering what the back story will show to give us a reason why she's so bossy?Spoiler sites have referred to what she does/did.

[yellow]

Well, despite her not really appealing to me physically, she's too hot to be The Man. :)

[XIII]

Finally to clarify that Sayid and Ana saw each other, having rewatched, it didn't show ti VERY clearly, but it did show Ana's hand, with the gun in, in the same frame as Sayid.. here ya go.

http://www.applesplash.com/jack/Lost%20Ana:Sayid.jpg

edit oh, and check this out.. :) confirms what some of you have been saying

http://forums.ilounge.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=751895

[Don't panic]

Finally to clarify that Sayid and Ana saw each other, having rewatched, it didn't show ti VERY clearly, but it did show Ana's hand, with the gun in, in the same frame as Sayid.. here ya go.

http://www.applesplash.com/jack/Lost%20Ana:Sayid.jpg
fair enough

edit oh, and check this out.. :) confirms what some of you have been saying

http://forums.ilounge.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=751895

nice. I would concur that it doesn't look like a gunshot wound.

[xli_ne]

glad you put those up. i saw those on a forum, went back and couldn't find them again.

[XIII]

No problem. The first one is a screenshot from me, but second I stole from iLounge, where I saw it first. And he saw it somewhere else first. :p

[yellow]

I am not a doctor/medic/soldier/thug/gangsta, nor do I play one on TV, but to me, that does not look like a GSW either.

[stonyc]

Doesn't look like a GSW to me either, more of a slash or stab.

I'm sticking to the theory that Ana shot at an other (maybe even Walt?), who had slashed Shannon.

Also, I like that possible prediction that Jack will have to choose between Shannon and Sawyer a lot as well. I'm assuming that Sayid/Shannon and the other survivors are a few hours hike away from the main survivors (using Shannon/Sayid's hike as a reference)... makes that scenario more likely in my opinion.

[yellow]

I don't think Jack will have to choose, as I don't think it's possible to save Shannon's life. That wound looks like the equivalent of a disembowling or a gut shot. Something that is VERY hard to survive if you're in the vicinity of a modern medical facility. If you're lost on a strange island.... toast.

[XIII]

I don't think Jack will have to choose, as I don't think it's possible to save Shannon's life. That wound looks like the equivalent of a disembowling or a gut shot. Something that is VERY hard to survive if you're in the vicinity of a modern medical facility. If you're lost on a strange island.... toast.

Totally agreed.. I am of the opinion Sawyer looks pretty dead too..

[atszyman]

Just to add to the speculation. In the screen shot with Sayid and the gun in someone's hand it's the left hand. When they cut to Ana later she has the gun in her right hand.

[yellow]

That could just be poor editing.. but who knows?

[CHROMEDOME]

That could just be poor editing.. but who knows?


Lost is nitpicked to death so everyone making the show knows that there are no exceptions for poor editing.

[yellow]

Lost is nitpicked to death so everyone making the show knows that there are no exceptions for poor editing.


Could be.. could be..

But that also might be why Johnny Junior-College is now fetching a half-fat no-whip mocha latta fuzz whatever for "Mr. Garcia", instead of being an assistant director. :)

[Don't panic]

Just to add to the speculation. In the screen shot with Sayid and the gun in someone's hand it's the left hand. When they cut to Ana later she has the gun in her right hand.

Is the french woman left handed?

[Vader]

I missed the new episode last week, could anyone post a quick summary of what happens so that I am ready for this week's episode?

[Don't panic]

a quick question for whoever has the tape/file/tivo.
was the woman who disappeared from the tailers group armed with one of those hand made slicer weapons? could it be her who cut shannon?

[xli_ne]

new episode tonight, even though I'm not really looking toward to seeing it. I want the story to keep going and not really go back to the "tail enders" story. But who knows, might be a good hour or so.

[emw]

I missed the new episode last week, could anyone post a quick summary of what happens so that I am ready for this week's episode?

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/206.html

or, of course

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=82050675&s=143441&i=83324779

new episode tonight, even though I'm not really looking toward to seeing it. I want the story to keep going and not really go back to the "tail enders" story. But who knows, might be a good hour or so.I'm looking forward to finding out what happened - how they got whittled down to where they are now, maybe getting some more insight into the Others.

I don't think we'll find out much more about the fate of Shannon and Sawyer though.

[Vader]

Thanks.

[Doctor Q]

I'm behind on Lost episodes (I was on vacation but managed to get home without crashing onto a remote island) and I'm behind on this thread too, but I'll ask a question anyway while I think of it.

Has anyone pointed out that the second and third of Hurley's unlucky numbers are 8 and 15, and the plane that crashed was flight 815?

If I have time, I'll watch the "Abandoned" episode I missed before tonite's episode starts.

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[rickvanr]

extended episode... oooo

Was that the same teddy bear as in the episode from a few weeks ago?

[clayj]

Shhhhhh... ix-nay on the oilers-spay. (At least until 1 AM ET.)

[rickvanr]

It wasn't a spoiler, it was a question. Alas, I won't say anything else until 1AM or whenever the show ends on the west coast. For an extended episode there seem to be a lot of commercials thus far.

Edit:: How the heck was that considered 'extended'?

[Capt Underpants]

It wasn't a spoiler, it was a question. Alas, I won't say anything else until 1AM or whenever the show ends on the west coast. For an extended episode there seem to be a lot of commercials thus far.

Edit:: How the heck was that considered 'extended'?

You know how there are commercials every 10 minutes on lost, usually? Well they were like every 20 minutes on this episode. That, and it ran 10 minutes long.

Because of this episode, I once again remember why I fell in love with the show. It was awesome...

[rickvanr]

You know how there are commercials every 10 minutes on lost, usually? Well they were like every 20 minutes on this episode. That, and it ran 10 minutes long.

Because of this episode, I once again remember why I fell in love with the show. It was awesome...

There seemed to be more commercials to me and it ended at 10, but I watched it on CTV, not ABC.

[clayj]

I had it running until 10:05 PM.

And (spoiler-free) it DID clear up some confusion about the events of last week's episode... sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, folks.

[Capt Underpants]

There seemed to be more commercials to me and it ended at 10, but I watched it on CTV, not ABC.

My stepdad and I both noticed the absence of commercials. Maybe it was just us, though.

Are you sure that they played the show all the way through? It ended with Shannon gettin' shot, exactly where last weeks left off, right?

[rickvanr]

My stepdad and I both noticed the absence of commercials. Maybe it was just us, though.

Are you sure that they played the show all the way through? It ended with Shannon gettin' shot, exactly where last weeks left off, right?

Yes, I'm sure.. because after it was over on CTV the broadcast of ABC picked up and it was just what I had already seen. CTV just played less commercials.

[pdpfilms]

Well, shoot. Anna really did kill shannon. And that mystery mustached dude from the first contact with the tailies on the beach actually was a messup. Looks like the editors of Lost aren't as clever as we thought.

[skubish]

I don't know how they could call that an "extended episode" when it was only 4 minutes longer and the extra was just a rehash of what happened last week.

Still a great episode, tons of commercials though (Thank God for Tivo).

[MongoTheGeek]

There was something that I found interesting. The "other" guy said that whazzizface in the pit was bad person which is why he wasn't on the list.

The black guy seems to have been a priest/minister of some sort before he hit the Island and was on the list of people to take, (at least until they tried to take him and got the proverbial equivalent of pulling back the bloody stump.)

Could it be that the people in the nose section weren't hit as hard by others because they tended to be not as nice of people. They all came to the island with their sins.

[Lyle]

Was that the same teddy bear as in the episode from a few weeks ago?Now that the spoiler embargo has been lifted: Yes, I think it's safe to assume that that's the same teddy bear that we saw one of the "others" toting in a recent episode.

[stonyc]

Could it be that the people in the nose section weren't hit as hard by others because they tended to be not as nice of people. They all came to the island with their sins.It could also be that the tail-enders landed closer to the Others' base camp.

With the passenger kidnappings (we don't know that they're dead, and "Goodwin" alludes to the children being fine), especially of the good ones, could the Others be trying to form a utopian society?

And a supposedly 20-year old Army knife... how would Ana Lucia know that unless she had some sort of military training? She also seemed to handle herself pretty well against Goodwin.

[Lyle]

The black guy seems to have been a priest/minister of some sort before he hit the Island...What makes you think that? Was there something in last night's episode that suggests this? (I can't remember).

The most interesting thing to come out of last night's episode is that we now have at least a hint (albeit a small one) of the "others" motivation. That is to say, it doesn't appear that they're just mindless savages who like to kidnap and/or kill people for sport.

[Lyle]

With the passenger kidnappings (we don't know that they're dead, and "Goodwin" alludes to the children being fine), especially of the good ones, could the Others be trying to form a utopian society?I believe that Goodwin said that the children were "in a better place". That is usually a euphemism for heaven, which would suggest that the children are in fact dead, but I'm not so sure that's what he meant.

And a supposedly 20-year old Army knife... how would Ana Lucia know that unless she had some sort of military training? She also seemed to handle herself pretty well against Goodwin.Yeah, a lot more insight into Ana Lucia this time. They made a point of showing us how protective she was of the children, that she feels personally responsible for them. She also said that she doesn't have children of her own, and seems to regret that.

[evoluzione]

And that mystery mustached dude from the first contact with the tailies on the beach actually was a messup. Looks like the editors of Lost aren't as clever as we thought.


huh?




and why do we have to refrain from posting spoilers? can the west coast people just refrain from looking at this thread? i can do it (i rarely get to watch Lost "live").

[topgunn]

So judging from the preview for next week, Shannon is dead. I guess I was wrong there.

When Sawyer, Michael and Jin met up with the tail-enders, weren't they vey curious about whether they had gotten sick or not? I thought quite a few of them had gotten sick and died but from last nights episode, that is not the case. It doesn't seem that anyone has died on their side except the guy in the hole that had his neck broken and the people that died from the crash or directly because of it. Everyone else has been taken or disappeared.

How long will it be before we see Desmond again. I think his story will be very important. He seems to have some sort of "powers" like predicting or causing the miracle of Jack's future wifes healing and knowing more about Jack than what he ever should. The Desmond at the Stadium and the Desmond in the hatch seem like different people, but I guess thats what happens with you spend so much time by yourself having to press a button every 108 minutes.

[topgunn]

huh?




and why do we have to refrain from posting spoilers? can the west coast people just refrain from looking at this thread? i can do it (i rarely get to watch Lost "live").
I didn't understand this either. Care to explain a bit more?

[MongoTheGeek]

What makes you think that? Was there something in last night's episode that suggests this? (I can't remember).

The most interesting thing to come out of last night's episode is that we now have at least a hint (albeit a small one) of the "others" motivation. That is to say, it doesn't appear that they're just mindless savages who like to kidnap and/or kill people for sport.

Two things. The silence for 40 days. I think the 40 days part was intentional but he downplayed it for her benefit.

Additionally his reaction to the bible they found in the base.

[stonyc]

Two things. The silence for 40 days. I think the 40 days part was intentional but he downplayed it for her benefit.

Additionally his reaction to the bible they found in the base.I don't know if he were a priest/minister in his former life, but he did strike me as religious.

He also seemed more than horrified after he killed the two original Others (prompting the 40 days of silence, perhaps as a penance?) attempting to infiltrate the camp.

[stonyc]

So judging from the preview for next week, Shannon is dead. I guess I was wrong there.I was wrong about Shannon being dead and Ana Lucia having shot her... something tells me that won't be the first time that I'm wrong, but I guess that's part of the allure of this show for me: the plausible unexpected. Can't wait to see the next episode.

[xli_ne]

i thought from last weeks episode that the "others" couldn't be killed or no one has done it before. But damn, eko killed two and ana killed another.

another random thought, i dont' remember seeing the teddy bear on this episode, where was it at?

[watcher2001]

another random thought, i dont' remember seeing the teddy bear on this episode, where was it at?
The little boy was carrying it right after the crash, then he and his sister were playing with it a little later when Eko dropped them off before he pulled the bodies out of the water

Well, shoot. Anna really did kill shannon. And that mystery mustached dude from the first contact with the tailies on the beach actually was a messup. Looks like the editors of Lost aren't as clever as we thought.

I too am at a total loss on this one.. Can someone please fill in the blanks

Oh and BTW, I loved the way they played in the other side of Boones radio chat "No, we're the survivors of 815" Just when you forget about something, they bring it back.

[Lyle]

i thought from last weeks episode that the "others" couldn't be killed or no one has done it before. But damn, eko killed two and ana killed another.Don't forget about Ethan Rom (from Season 1). He be dead.

[stonyc]

i thought from last weeks episode that the "others" couldn't be killed or no one has done it before. But damn, eko killed two and ana killed another.

another random thought, i dont' remember seeing the teddy bear on this episode, where was it at?Charlie killed Ethan (well, shot him).

I don't think anyone has (well, not me!) has said that the Others couldn't be killed... just that they seemed to be very strong (ie. Ethan lifting up Jack in a choke hold, Ethan dragging Charlie and Claire).

Maybe the Others are just on steroids, I can't imagine a very stringent performance-enhancing drug testing policy on a remote island. :) Who knows? Weeeeeee...

[xli_ne]

ya i guess i didn't think that all the way through.

it also looked like eko pulled out jack's dead dad out of the water when they crashed or at least it looked like it.

[russed]

i well cant wait to getting around to watch this episode. i think it will fill in quite a big gap in the knowledge that i have (being an episode behind and not knowing about the tail enders). hopefully it will make that ana person be more likeable as i cant stand her at the moment!

[russed]

oh, what did the trailer for hte next episode look like? does it look like next week is going to be exciting? what is it focusing on? the hatch - i think we should learn some more about that soon!

[stonyc]

oh, what did the trailer for hte next episode look like? does it look like next week is going to be exciting? what is it focusing on? the hatch - i think we should learn some more about that soon!Seemed to focus on the conflict between Ana Lucia and Sayid, also Jack is seen remembering Ana Lucia's name (he seems to be still in the hatch).

[evoluzione]

does it look like next week is going to be exciting?


of course, that's what trailers are for no?

Eko is seen carrying someone (can't remember who) and arriving at the camp, asking "Who is the doctor?" and we see Jack looking worried... Sayid and Ana Lucia are about to get at each others throats by the look of it, Ana in a more "pre-emptive" :rolleyes: way, and Sayid, maybe in more of a vengeance way? that's all i can remember right now...



fahlderahlderahlder ;)

[russed]

of course, that's what trailers are for no?

Eko is seen carrying someone (can't remember who) and arriving at the camp, asking "Who is the doctor?" and we see Jack looking worried... Sayid and Ana Lucia are about to get at each others throats by the look of it, Ana in a more "pre-emptive" :rolleyes: way, and Sayid, maybe in more of a vengeance way? that's all i can remember right now...



fahlderahlderahlder ;)


well good, i cant wait. wednesdays are my favourite day of the week!

[pdpfilms]

I too am at a total loss on this one.. Can someone please fill in the blanks

When Jin, Michael, and Sawyer first met the tailies on the beach, there were more of them then there actually are now. Screencaps reveal there was a tall guy with a mustache... (i'll see if i can find one), but there was never any such character. A picture will help you understand...

[evoluzione]

When Jin, Michael, and Sawyer first met the tailies on the beach, there were more of them then there actually are now. Screencaps reveal there was a tall guy with a mustache... (i'll see if i can find one), but there was never any such character. A picture will help you understand...



hmm, very interesting...

hope you can find a screenshot on this! :)

[rickvanr]

hmm, very interesting...

hope you can find a screenshot on this! :)

I have one

[pdpfilms]

I have one
Do you care to post?

EDIT: Beat me.

Here's mine, from my iTunes purchased episode... Not the best quality, I'll keep looking for a better one. But notice the tall dude on the left holding the big spikey stick. It's clear who the others are.. Mr. Eko, the blonde, Ana behind the blonde, and the stewardess behing Eko. But the tall dude in jeans? No se, amigo, no se.

http://forums.macrumors.com/images/attach/jpg.gif

[plinden]

i thought from last weeks episode that the "others" couldn't be killed or no one has done it before. But damn, eko killed two and ana killed another.

another random thought, i dont' remember seeing the teddy bear on this episode, where was it at?
Ethan was shot dead in the first series - by the hobbit guy.
Edit: reminder to self - read thread completely before posting.

[plinden]

Just found this on Macobserver - http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/11/17.13.shtml

Anyone with Konfabulator, let us know what the dire consequences are.

[rickvanr]

Here's another shot..

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9303/lost28jk.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lost28jk.jpg)

He appears to have grey hair, but I think he's too skinny to be Bernard.

[Macaddicttt]

Here's another shot..

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9303/lost28jk.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lost28jk.jpg)

He appears to have grey hair, but I think he's too skinny to be Bernard.

I'm pretty sure that's Bernard. He just looks skinny because of the way he's standing.