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massiveimages
Apr 30, 2010, 11:39 AM
Hi there. I'm wondering how I can store/keep movies I've downloaded from iTunes on my AppleTV, without having to keep them stored on my MacBook as well?!

Obviously the ones I buy on AppleTV stay there..but I like to buy them on my laptop so I can also put them on my kids' iPod Touch(s)...but after awhile I end up with 100Gb of kids movies on my laptop?!

I'll typically move them to an external hard drive for future access...but then once they're off my laptop and AppleTV starts to sync....they're all gone from AppleTV too?! I want to be able to sync from iTunes on my laptop to ADD new movies without removing all the others?!

I'm normally pretty adept at figuring these things out...but this one I just can't find a solution for?!

Help?!



tommylotto
Apr 30, 2010, 12:21 PM
That is how AppleTV is suppose to work. It is just like an iPod Touch. All it's content has to be in iTunes.

What you can do is keep your movies in iTunes but stored on your external drive. Just turn off automatic sync and only sync your AppleTV when your external drive is connected to your laptop.

You really need two external drives (one for back-up). If your external drive fails you will lose all your movies. Even the ones on your AppleTV will disappear the next time you sync.

So, if you are keeping track, you really need three copies of all your movies: one on AppleTV, one for iTunes, and one for back-up.

Kcissem D
Apr 30, 2010, 12:33 PM
So, if you are keeping track, you really need three copies of all your movies: one on AppleTV, one for iTunes, and one for back-up.

not true, i only have one copy of everything. Everything is on a external drive that is mirrored(raid 1), then everything is streamed from that drive to the apple tv(Apple tv drive is completely empty). Can use a NAS to do the same.

roidy
Apr 30, 2010, 01:07 PM
RAID 1 isn't a substitute for a good backup because there are a few things is can't protect against.

What happens if you accidentally delete a file, because the disks contain exact copys of each other then the file will be deleted from both drives.

What happens if a file becomes corrupt, same as above the raid array just mirrors a corrupt file and your left with a corrupt file and a copy of a corrupt file. Bye-bye file.

There are quite a few reasons why Raid-1 shouldn't be your only backup solution. That's why I always backup to a external drive that I can unplug and remove from my computer to keep safe.

tommylotto
Apr 30, 2010, 03:19 PM
not true, i only have one copy of everything. Everything is on a external drive that is mirrored(raid 1), then everything is streamed from that drive to the apple tv(Apple tv drive is completely empty). Can use a NAS to do the same.

I still count three: 2 on your mirrored external, and 1 on your AppleTV as it buffers your streamed content....

smoked
Apr 30, 2010, 11:02 PM
The mirrored external only counts as one copy, and the streamed doesn't count since it is volatile. So thats only one copy total, which really isn't a good idea.

Anyway, on the MacBook, just delete the files from the MacBook drive but not from iTunes. I would suggest not buying directly from the :apple:Tv because it can be sketchy on syncing back to iTunes, and also keeping backups on at least two external drives stored in a safe place.

danhercules
May 2, 2010, 11:42 AM
That is how AppleTV is suppose to work. It is just like an iPod Touch. All it's content has to be in iTunes.

What you can do is keep your movies in iTunes but stored on your external drive. Just turn off automatic sync and only sync your AppleTV when your external drive is connected to your laptop.

You really need two external drives (one for back-up). If your external drive fails you will lose all your movies. Even the ones on your AppleTV will disappear the next time you sync.

So, if you are keeping track, you really need three copies of all your movies: one on AppleTV, one for iTunes, and one for back-up.

How do I do this?

massiveimages
May 2, 2010, 03:57 PM
The mirrored external only counts as one copy, and the streamed doesn't count since it is volatile. So thats only one copy total, which really isn't a good idea.

Anyway, on the MacBook, just delete the files from the MacBook drive but not from iTunes. I would suggest not buying directly from the :apple:Tv because it can be sketchy on syncing back to iTunes, and also keeping backups on at least two external drives stored in a safe place.

I see. So I'd keep the "reference" file in iTunes..but the actual movie (the 1Gb+ file) on an external drive and just "point" iTunes toward looking for the file on the external drive? Is that accurate?

tommylotto
May 3, 2010, 10:01 AM
Just remember to go into the Preferences in iTunes, under "Advanced", and make sure you have unchecked the option that Copies all filed added to your iTunes library to your iTunes Media folder...

cwaddell2002
May 3, 2010, 01:41 PM
check this article out about how to keep your itunes library on an external drive... it is from 2007, but all still applies conceptually...

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/moving-your-itunes-library-to-a-new-hard-drive-2007/

deadwulfe
May 3, 2010, 02:43 PM
I'm assuming the article is about how to have content stored on an external drive, but still having it as part of iTunes. I didn't read it.

Anyways, I have iTunes organize my music on my Macbook, but I keep movies on an external hard drive. I import the movies into iTunes holding alt+drag them onto iTunes. iTunes will import them into the app, but leave the files where they are, on the external drive, without copying them to my Macbook.

That way I can sync with the Apple TV and not keep the movies on my Macbook. I use NitoTV on my Apple TV to enable the use of an external USB drive as the Apple TV's hard drive, so I can keep my entire movie library on the Apple TV.

ipedro
May 4, 2010, 12:46 AM
Apple almost resolved this problem when they introduced the current version of iTunes. They changed the iTunes music folder to iTunes Media with seperate folders for music, tv, movies, etc.

Now they just need to allow you to specify different storage locations for each so that large files such as movies can be stored on an external HDD while music can remain on the internal HDD.

I need to have my music on me but not my movies.

The workaround that I use right now is to rip my music to a folder in my external HDD and then drag it while holding OPTION. Notice that the "+" icon disappears. What you're doing is only copying a link to that file into your iTunes library. The file remains on the external.

This works fine for content that you rip from DVDs or download from sources other than iTunes. If you do purchase TV shows or Movies on your AppleTV, you'll have to manually move the file from your iTunes library folder to your external and then update the location by opening the file in iTunes and following the prompts to locate the file you just moved.

mchalebk
May 4, 2010, 09:02 AM
You can easily store your music, movies and photos wherever you want. There is an option in the iTunes preferences (under Advanced) called "Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library." If you uncheck this, iTunes will leave the files wherever they are. In my case, I have my music on one HD and my video files on another. I drag them into iTunes and it adds them to the library, but does not copy them.

hfthomp
May 11, 2010, 11:08 AM
I'm assuming the article is about how to have content stored on an external drive, but still having it as part of iTunes. I didn't read it.

Anyways, I have iTunes organize my music on my Macbook, but I keep movies on an external hard drive. I import the movies into iTunes holding alt+drag them onto iTunes. iTunes will import them into the app, but leave the files where they are, on the external drive, without copying them to my Macbook.

That way I can sync with the Apple TV and not keep the movies on my Macbook. I use NitoTV on my Apple TV to enable the use of an external USB drive as the Apple TV's hard drive, so I can keep my entire movie library on the Apple TV.

I have a question for you on your setup here. Does your USB drive connected to your ATV show up on your Macbook as a hard drive?