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arn
Aug 8, 2002, 02:28 PM
Per iPoding (http://www.ipoding.com/), the August 8, 2002 (http://www.apple.com/enews/2002/08/08enews1.html) Apple eNews reports that the iPod Software 1.2 Updater (http://www.apple.com/ipod/) will be posted later today.

The iPod updated was announced at MWNY, and provides support for Audible.com as well as support for new features found in iTunes 3.

lilscoy
Aug 8, 2002, 05:09 PM
Maybe I can sleep now... :) I know it won't change a whole lot without iCal, but it's an update, you know? Once you know it's out there...you just gotta have it! :)

esome
Aug 8, 2002, 06:58 PM
....................................

rugby
Aug 8, 2002, 07:02 PM
It's out now.

http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/

Hemingray
Aug 8, 2002, 07:13 PM
Beautiful, just downloaded. Now I just gotta get off my lazy @$$ and go out to the car to get my iPod... :rolleyes:

swahilibill
Aug 8, 2002, 07:15 PM
wtf, it screwe anybody elses display up, it screwed mine up, and mine is 2 days old, the writing is everywhere and the display is just ****ing screwed up! what ****!

rugby
Aug 8, 2002, 07:37 PM
My display is fine on my original 5gb iPod, yet it has been blinking "Do Not Disconnect" for 20 minutes now after I ran the updater. Is it auto-leveling the volumes of the songs on it?

**edit** it's supposed to blink that when it's plugged in to the computer. Jeez, how dumb am I?

billiam0878
Aug 8, 2002, 08:11 PM
Hi Everybody,

My brother just installed the iPod 1.2 update and he can't set his clock, has anyone else experienced this problem?

Bill

Macette
Aug 8, 2002, 08:25 PM
D'oh! My iPod's away at Apple being 'cared for' and they won't have it back to me for a week at least!

I WANT IT NOW!

kainjow
Aug 8, 2002, 08:53 PM
To set your clock you have to go into the Settings menu and then go to Date & Time.

Also, check out my iPod 1.2 pictures!!!!

http://homepage.mac.com/kainjow/PhotoAlbum9.html

wn3_z
Aug 8, 2002, 08:58 PM
Did you know that you can export the datebook out of palm desktop as a vcal and put it in the ipod's calender folder. It works.. no need to wait for ical...

elgruga
Aug 8, 2002, 09:02 PM
All good!

Just d/l'ed the 1.2 and its fine, NO problems at all.
I would suggest that those who do have issues should do a full restore, then upload all their songs again.

Clock is useful, calendar is OK, presumably will do more when ical gets going.

The game? Well, something has to be crappy, I guess! LOL!

I kind of preferred it when it was hidden - it made me feel intelligent when I found it - oh well.

elgruga
Aug 8, 2002, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by wn3_z
Did you know that you can export the datebook out of palm desktop as a vcal and put it in the ipod's calender folder. It's works.. no need to wait for ical...

Thanks wn3_z!

Hemingray
Aug 8, 2002, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by elgruga
I kind of preferred it when it was hidden - it made me feel intelligent when I found it - oh well.

I hear ya, man. Steve must have this thing about easter eggs... :rolleyes:

gandalf55
Aug 8, 2002, 10:08 PM
is this for original 5Gig iPods too?
little nervous...

Mr.Hey
Aug 8, 2002, 10:19 PM
Its for all iPods...luck ***** I want one :(

vitrector
Aug 8, 2002, 10:45 PM
the only updater I can find is a .dmg file (system X file!?) - won't open in system 9.2. Bummer. Anyone find a .img or .bin file for system 9?
I'm not ready to convert to X quite yet - computer too slow, work doesn't support darn! I realy wanted all of the additional functionality....

BobVB
Aug 8, 2002, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by wn3_z
Did you know that you can export the datebook out of palm desktop as a vcal and put it in the ipod's calender folder. It works.. no need to wait for ical...

thanks for the tip! So I have everything functioning now, Contacts, Clock, and Calendar.

Still the most important features are the Audible.com and Sound Check features for me with playing by Genre a distant third.

AlphaTech
Aug 8, 2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by kainjow
To set your clock you have to go into the Settings menu and then go to Date & Time.

Also, check out my iPod 1.2 pictures!!!!

http://homepage.mac.com/kainjow/PhotoAlbum9.html

Cool... I updated my iPod (original 5GB model) and did see that the clock wasn't set. Since I have been having some Murphy's, I hadn't gone too far into the settings and such (a few ~16ozers will make ya happy :D). Now the clock on my iPod is set... :D

Next up will probably putting my phone book into it... although the list of numbers is rather short at the moment.

cmoney
Aug 9, 2002, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by wn3_z
Did you know that you can export the datebook out of palm desktop as a vcal and put it in the ipod's calender folder. It works.. no need to wait for ical...

Same goes for Entourage. But it's even easier. Just open the iPod's Calendar folder and bring Entourage to the front. Then start dragging events from the Entourage Calendar to the folder!

balliet
Aug 9, 2002, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by rugby
My display is fine on my original 5gb iPod, yet it has been blinking "Do Not Disconnect" for 20 minutes now after I ran the updater. Is it auto-leveling the volumes of the songs on it?

**edit** it's supposed to blink that when it's plugged in to the computer. Jeez, how dumb am I?

Hey, I just let it sit for about 3 hours thinking to myself, "Why is it taking so long to update." (I was watching a movie on tv though, I wouldn't have just staired at it for 3 hours :) ) They should have mentioned this new "feature".

So to answer your question, you are just as dumb as I am... probably less dumb, because you stopped after 20 min.

buffsldr
Aug 9, 2002, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by cmoney


Same goes for Entourage. But it's even easier. Just open the iPod's Calendar folder and bring Entourage to the front. Then start dragging events from the Entourage Calendar to the folder!

Thanks for the post. It is easy. Anybody know if you can set the clock to display always?

BongHits
Aug 9, 2002, 01:01 AM
has anyone else noticed that apple is slowly taking away our freedoms with the music we have stored on the iPod? Since iTunes 3 I have no longer been able to burn CDs straight from my iPod and after iPod Update 1.2 I can no longer play music off my iPod through my computer. WTF IS GOING ON!? I can't even take music on my iPod and put it back on my HD. Is it just me or does anyone else think we're going to start getting the short end of the stick in this digital media war?

swahilibill
Aug 9, 2002, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by BongHits
has anyone else noticed that apple is slowly taking away our freedoms with the music we have stored on the iPod? Since iTunes 3 I have no longer been able to burn CDs straight from my iPod and after iPod Update 1.2 I can no longer play music off my iPod through my computer. WTF IS GOING ON!? I can't even take music on my iPod and put it back on my HD. Is it just me or does anyone else think we're going to start getting the short end of the stick in this digital media war?


****, I didn't even know you could burn right off the iPod, and how in the **** do you play while connected to the computer, and you can transfer from iPod to the Hd, am I totally inept and ****ing stupid, or is this some sort of sarcasm? Please refrain from laughing too much ya yuppy *******s! lol



"Theres my expression of anger for the night!"

BongHits
Aug 9, 2002, 01:21 AM
i used to make playlists on my computer with songs from my ipod and burn them, and playing a song off the ipod was as simple as going to the ipod source in itunes and finding the song i wanted. i dont think youve ever been able to transfer from ipod to HD (but you should is my point, I had to format, and I had all my music backed up on ipod only to find out u can't transfer to prevent stealing music). so who knows how to switch back to itunes 2? i dont need this spyware (top rated songs, rating system, wtf?) ruining my computer. btw, did anyone experience the ipod freezing for long periods of time in OS X before update 1.2? I managed to score a new ipod thanks to this software bug which product specialists determined to be a malfunctioning ipod (yes please give me a rev.b with no scratches :D)

BobVB
Aug 9, 2002, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by BongHits
Since iTunes 3 I have no longer been able to burn CDs straight from my iPod and after iPod Update 1.2 I can no longer play music off my iPod through my computer.

Well, you can't burn from the iPod anymore, but I have 1.2 installed and just played several songs from the iPod connected to my computer through the computer's speakers just fine.

Maybe a few less BongHits is needed to make it work right? :)

BongHits
Aug 9, 2002, 01:43 AM
your right a few less Bong Hits would do me good, I forgot that after my ipod restore I never changed it to manually managing my ipod's songs, causing them to be uneditable. Pay no attention to my ranting.

King Cobra
Aug 9, 2002, 07:09 AM
All right. For those complaining about not being able to copy songs from the iPod to iTunes or to the Hard Disk, listen up. If you bothered to check out the help menus for iTunes/iPod you will notice a small blurb, saying that you cannot copy music from the iPod to iTunes. I guess this is for safety measures in case of music theft.

There are programs out there, which will let you transfer music from the iPod to iTunes. Do a search here (http://download.com.com) or here (http://www.versiontracker.com) to find what you are looking for.

bond2
Aug 9, 2002, 07:45 AM
I am pretty sure you can copy songs right off the iPod to your HD by using a program that will show the hidden files. I have some app that does this and you'll just have to dig through a few folders and then you'll find all your songs. It is actually pretty easy. I am at work on my PC.....what a drag I know.....but when I get home I can double check on the progrma I have and what folder the songs are in.

King Cobra
Aug 9, 2002, 07:49 AM
bond, I tried what you said using HiddenHunter 2.0 (OS 9), but I got no luck. (Yes, the program searches for invisible files.)

zarathustra
Aug 9, 2002, 07:58 AM
Try xPod. Or EphPod. Or about a dozen more that let you copy everything off the HD.

Jam
Aug 9, 2002, 09:02 AM
I got my iPod one day before I left for a work trip... I was supposed to video an event and then edit it up and show the video on the final day of the trip. well, I thought I'd be all slick and just put all the music I might need onto the iPod and copy it off later...
wrong.
So, after much fretting, i just erased the Pod and then used Norton Unerase to restore all the songs to my TiBook... an ugly method, but it worked in a pinch...

-J

deepkid
Aug 9, 2002, 09:09 AM
"Do Not Disconnect"

You can eject your iPod through iTunes (bottom right corner). I saw this flashing for a while, but noticed that iTunes had given me the OK that the update had been completed.

Clicked the eject button, iPod was no longer mounted. No problems.

Even thought it might seem like a small thing, but adding that clock was a surprise and is handy. I no longer have to pull out my phone to check time..nor do I have to wear my wristwatch. A convenient addition.

I can't wait to play with iCal.

Anyhoo, any way to program the alarm without using some software on the mac? Prolly not, eh?

wilhelmd
Aug 9, 2002, 09:28 AM
Hey, try the iPod Retriever! Wrote it myself!

http://www.damsleth.com/ipod.asp

Maybe check out the poll on this page as well?

a_kim
Aug 9, 2002, 10:17 AM
If you know unix, it's actually quite simple to do. The only commands you need to know are CD (change directory) and ls (list). I'm not going to go into detail, but all you have to do is go in the terminal, find your way onto the ipod (in the /Volumes directory), and start looking around. Use "ls -a" to list ALL files (including hidden), and you will soon find that there are several hidden folders, each containing a messload of songs. Once you find these directories, just use the "open" command, and the folder will open up on your desktop. Then, it's just simple drag and drop.

-Alex

iwantanewmac
Aug 9, 2002, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by vitrector
the only updater I can find is a .dmg file (system X file!?) - won't open in system 9.2. Bummer. Anyone find a .img or .bin file for system 9?
I'm not ready to convert to X quite yet - computer too slow, work doesn't support darn! I realy wanted all of the additional functionality....


mmmmm only for X huh?
well my ipod works just fine this way and I dont give a **** about the calender and clock options (I got a watch).
It's seems to me that people are generally unhappy with the update.
ANd for the fact it isn't out for OS9 (if it is sorry) apple can kiss my ass. :)

King Cobra
Aug 9, 2002, 11:03 AM
>mmmmm only for X huh?

Yep. This would make sense, since the update is supposed to work well with iTunes 3, which is only available for OS X.

>well my ipod works just fine this way and I dont give a **** about the calender and clock options (I got a watch).

I never heard of a watch, which can be used as a calendar. :rolleyes:

>It's seems to me that people are generally unhappy with the update.

I propose a vote on who uses OS 9 and OS X. Let's see if your statement stands. Besides, the update is free and it comes with a ReadMe, for people too worried about updating the iPod.

>ANd for the fact it isn't out for OS9 (if it is sorry) apple can kiss my ass. :)

If you aren't using OS X then TS. You can live with iPod OS 1.1, can't you?

Q-bert
Aug 9, 2002, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by iwantanewmac
mmmmm only for X huh?
well my ipod works just fine this way and I dont give a **** about the calender and clock options (I got a watch).
It's seems to me that people are generally unhappy with the update.
ANd for the fact it isn't out for OS9 (if it is sorry) apple can kiss my ass. :)

It's also available for OS 9:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=122013

You should have checked the Apple web site before posting your rant. I totally disagree with your assertion that people are unhappy with this update - I for one am VERY happy, and the system I use for listening to music is OS 9, not OS X.

newmanium
Aug 9, 2002, 12:05 PM
installed the update on my little 5 gig and we're both happy now, but the question i want to ask is the combatibility with smart playlists. more specifically, does the update allow the update the ipod to activate "live updating" of smart playlists without the use of itunes?

BongHits
Aug 9, 2002, 12:14 PM
I am new to the macintosh (former pc user, i know, i know...) and am utterley afraid of the terminal (i have zero clue on how to operate a computer via command lines). Anyone who has experience with the terminal how would I locate my iPod via the terminal and open its hidden contents (/ls -a i saw earlier?)
any help will be appreciated, but also a bit late as apples crappy customer support made me restore my ipod to verify hardware problems. but in the future it will be good knowledge to have.

TheT
Aug 9, 2002, 12:30 PM
First of all: I love the update, it just makes my one-year-old iPod even better!
To answer your question, newmanium, no, the iPod doesn't update the samrt playlists automatically... but, when you plug it in, it uploads the playcount to iTunes, and you will the the songs you listened to in your 'Last played' playlist or whereever else you might have changed something with your iPod.
The question I ask myself now is: why can't the iPod write or change anything without computer and/or iTunes? I mean, it doesn't update the smart playlists, you can't add contacts or events in the calender... why not? I mean, wouldn't it be great to be able to quickly add something with the wheel, kinda the way you set up the clock, scrolling through the letters, to write? Oh well, 1.3 then... :D

BongHits
Aug 9, 2002, 12:49 PM
THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS APP IT ROX!!! now nobody can keep me from what is legally mine HAHAHA!i got a warning that the .sit file is either not compressed or encoded tho? thanks for your help and programmin expertise.

gandalf55
Aug 9, 2002, 12:49 PM
i ran to the apple store @ the north shore mall in boston : no new iPods there yet. But I had my iPod with me, in about 50 sec Update, my original iPod seemed like new. Some additional stuff like the clock & cal are nice additions. Also the flashing do not disconnect icon is a nice touch - a couple of times i've ripped my ipod out of my tower and forgot to eject it 1st. happens to everyone - now it's clear to eject 1st.

i almost fell for the do not disconnect thing after updating, but the iPod Updater app told me it was completed, so i just ejected it. whamo. done. apple makes updates SO FREAKING EASY - it's wonderful.

thanks Apple.

wilhelmd
Aug 9, 2002, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by BongHits
THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS APP IT ROX!!! now nobody can keep me from what is legally mine HAHAHA!i got a warning that the .sit file is either not compressed or encoded tho? thanks for your help and programmin expertise.
I "re-stuffed" it in the ".sit", ".sit.hqx" and ".dmg"-formats.

Hope it works now.

http://www.damsleth.com/ipod.asp

BongHits
Aug 9, 2002, 04:26 PM
it worked fine before. I just meant that os x displays a warning to check with the creator of the file to make sure the contents are valid. just thought that might throw some people off. btw could u make the retrieval window automatically close after it is finished importing songs into the iPod Retrieve folder? that would be nice for someone as lazy as myself. i need to learn some cocoa :D.

SubFredZero
Aug 9, 2002, 05:10 PM
Cool... now only the ipod is missing :(

Doesn't anybody want to sell his 5gb ipod to buy a 20gb ? If you're from europ, contact me....

iwantanewmac
Aug 9, 2002, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
>mmmmm only for X huh?

Yep. This would make sense, since the update is supposed to work well with iTunes 3, which is only available for OS X.

>well my ipod works just fine this way and I dont give a **** about the calender and clock options (I got a watch).

I never heard of a watch, which can be used as a calendar. :rolleyes:

>It's seems to me that people are generally unhappy with the update.

I propose a vote on who uses OS 9 and OS X. Let's see if your statement stands. Besides, the update is free and it comes with a ReadMe, for people too worried about updating the iPod.

>ANd for the fact it isn't out for OS9 (if it is sorry) apple can kiss my ass. :)

If you aren't using OS X then TS. You can live with iPod OS 1.1, can't you?


I said my ipod works well this way and I have no use for a calender anyway so......

BongHits
Aug 9, 2002, 05:50 PM
Cool... now only the ipod is missing

Doesn't anybody want to sell his 5gb ipod to buy a 20gb ? If you're from europ, contact me....

Im not from europe but ill sell you my 5gb ipod (scratches & all) for pretty cheap if you're interested. Let me know bkonar@ameritech.net

buffsldr
Aug 9, 2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by iwantanewmac



mmmmm only for X huh?
well my ipod works just fine this way and I dont give a **** about the calender and clock options (I got a watch).
It's seems to me that people are generally unhappy with the update.
ANd for the fact it isn't out for OS9 (if it is sorry) apple can kiss my ass. :)

Uh huh, you seem really indifferent. What with your name being iwantanewmac, and all.

coolmom
Aug 10, 2002, 08:11 PM
I did the update today..went smooth...checked it out when connected to computer. Then I did "eject IPod"...took it to work...tried to turn it on..It DIED!!!...NO IPOD symbol or firewire. NADA!!! I brought it home..plugged it in to computer again..hoping to see it on ITunes...but nothing..It has gone poof. Be careful of this update. Please advise anybody? How can I wake up my IPOD?????

I did the reset..now it is really messed up. See the "do not disconnect" on IPod...no songs ..invisible. I can see them when on computer through ITunes. I want to wipe the whole thing..but says I need the Updater. Where is that? My songs don't appear on IPod alone. Help plzzzz!! I tried the reset buttons..get batteries symbol..I have had Ipod charging through computer for hours...hmmm..

swahilibill
Aug 10, 2002, 08:58 PM
man this **** happens all of the time, press menu, select, and play/pause at the same time for like five or ten seconds, and it should restart, hope that helps!









Originally posted by coolmom
I did the update today..went smooth...checked it out when connected to computer. Then I did "eject IPod"...took it to work...tried to turn it on..It DIED!!!...NO IPOD symbol or firewire. NADA!!! I brought it home..plugged it in to computer again..hoping to see it on ITunes...but nothing..It has gone poof. Be careful of this update. Please advise anybody? How can I wake up my IPOD?????

AlphaTech
Aug 10, 2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by coolmom
I did the update today..went smooth...checked it out when connected to computer. Then I did "eject IPod"...took it to work...tried to turn it on..It DIED!!!...NO IPOD symbol or firewire. NADA!!! I brought it home..plugged it in to computer again..hoping to see it on ITunes...but nothing..It has gone poof. Be careful of this update. Please advise anybody? How can I wake up my IPOD?????

You really should know how to reset your iPod (see the post above).

I have 0 problems with both updating my original iPod or after updating it. I actually just picked up a leather case for it, and can now [safely] take it anywhere I want (and not scratch it any more).

I also talked with an Apple rep at [in]compusa today, and used some plastic cleaner and wax/polish on it to help remove some of the scratches.

coolmom
Aug 10, 2002, 10:37 PM
Thx..swahilibill...now I have action...but...it has been updating for over hour. Is it safe to disconnect through ITunes? And why does it need to update every time I boot ITunes? How to stop this?...plz advise?

swahilibill
Aug 10, 2002, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by coolmom
Thx..swahilibill...now I have action...but...it has been updating for over hour. Is it safe to disconnect through ITunes? And why does it need to update every time I boot ITunes? How to stop this?...plz advise?

in this new version it takes forever to disconnect, If yours says do not disconnect, but the itunes says update complete, click on the iPod removal button or drag the Ipod to the trash, I suppose you could just unplug it, but that I am not sure. Hope it helps, and I am sure we will see an update to the update pretty soon here, hopefully!

swahilibill
Aug 10, 2002, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by AlphaTech


You really should know how to reset your iPod (see the post above).

I have 0 problems with both updating my original iPod or after updating it. I actually just picked up a leather case for it, and can now [safely] take it anywhere I want (and not scratch it any more).

I also talked with an Apple rep at [in]compusa today, and used some plastic cleaner and wax/polish on it to help remove some of the scratches.

what was the cleaner called?

AlphaTech
Aug 10, 2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by swahilibill


what was the cleaner called?

Meguiar's Mirror Glaze 17 (professional plastic cleaner). They also have a plastic polish, 10 Professional Plastic Polish. You should be able to find the stuff at boat supply shops/stores. That is where my father picked it up many years ago.

BongHits
Aug 11, 2002, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by swahilibill


in this new version it takes forever to disconnect, If yours says do not disconnect, but the itunes says update complete, click on the iPod removal button or drag the Ipod to the trash, I suppose you could just unplug it, but that I am not sure. Hope it helps, and I am sure we will see an update to the update pretty soon here, hopefully!

With ipod 1.2 the ipod now displays do not disconnect when it is mounted on the desktop. In order to get it to say "It is now safe to disconnect (all i know is theirs a check mark)" you need to unmount the drive. If your ipod is on auto update (every time u plug in it updates the list) it does it all automatically. If you manage your ipod manually you need to manually unmount it as well, otherwise it will always say Do Not Disconnect (its not updating the firmware every time itunes launches).

iwantanewmac
Aug 11, 2002, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by buffsldr


Uh huh, you seem really indifferent. What with your name being iwantanewmac, and all.

YEAH you think of geat names when yer drunk.

TheT
Aug 11, 2002, 06:07 AM
This update is really great, now all I need is iSync and iCal...

Hey, did anybody see the new iPods yet? 'cause I think the reason the iPod doesn't have an Apple logo with 'iPod' written under it when it starts up is that the new ones have the new Apple font (Myriad not Apple Garamond)... does anyone know for sure?
I know this doesn't really matter, just wondering :)